The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:25 am Ha! I knew you were bad or something DH.

Ish.

Seconded

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:22 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:42 pm I have a concert to go to tonight so I won't really be here.
Likewise.

Only I'm performing in the concert.

Thankfully I am nearly up to date.

Please don't create fifteen pages in the next four hours.

Let's do just that

I can already tell, this is gonna be one of the games where I get night killed

im not getting threatened with being lynched every 5 sesconds

also i clarified "it" in teh post below it juliets

in any case im referring to something else

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that
sprityo when you say it sounds contradictory are you just saying it's contradictory because wilgy flipped civ or do you mean something else? I think all of us would like to know how/when/where tranq got the Mirror but I don't think he can respond to at least some of that per the rules. Thats my take at least.

if he "FOUND" it on the map like he said he did, then i know he's allowed to

by "it" i mean that entire post and what info he said he got

I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:08 pm No guys seriously its 6.

4 dead roles. And 2 extra roles in the OP.

QED

4 dead roles, 2 roles that are in the game and in the op

why make the list 32 when the requirement is 30?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:26 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:21 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:49 am I woke up in the middle of the night and found myself about to be CFD'd so I made another last minute push for Wilgy. As I said before Wilgy could be the Hollow Man so I'm not necessarily wrong. On my square there's an item i found called the Mirror of Truth which told me he might be bad.

Tranq's dump not steamy enough for you?

[mention]Tranq[/mention] this is an item you found and not like an event right and you used it, which then told you wilgy “might” be bad?

I just want to make sure I’m hearing you correctly

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:49 am I woke up in the middle of the night and found myself about to be CFD'd so I made another last minute push for Wilgy. As I said before Wilgy could be the Hollow Man so I'm not necessarily wrong. On my square there's an item i found called the Mirror of Truth which told me he might be bad.

Golden and dunya are the two extra players svs

that’s why they couldn’t sign up. The perfect cover!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:59 pm If Wilgy flips town we should chain lynch every single person who decided that DOCTORB WILGY was the best lynch of the day.

*Looks at who is voting wilgy*

well the only person i recognize is DH and SVS

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:58 pm Either lots of people willfully abstained from the lynch, or the site is glitching for everybody. If it's the former, I disapprove once again. If it's the latter then, well, that was inconvenient.

22/27 people voted?

polls over.

so hows that CFD going for you guys?

I am, it’s the best lead I’ve gotten at such an early point in the game

with minimum effort

Did I not say crazy lady in the woods?

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:07 pm I like this line of thinking from Enrique:

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:47 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Trickster - Has an aura of three squares, within which any info that is given or received will be corrupted in the Trickster’s favour. When the Trickster kills, that kill can be forged. When the Trickster enters BTSC, it may be under any name.
There's also this.
You support my first theory then of trickster faking their own death?
I mean I don't think it's impossible but I'm not endorsing it here. Was the Trickster dead by the time you met that lady?
I'll be more explicit: How do you know you were talking to an old woman and not to the Trickster, appearing in a chat room as an old woman?

It wasn’t BTSC, no chat room

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:03 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:23 pm I agree with you Mac, SVS is starting to rub me the wrong way

Also who cares about info drops??? What good does it do me to withhold that information? Talking about it later like “oh yeah I saw colonel mustard in the dining hall with the candlestick” isn’t gonna help us 3 days from now
As has been said, it's a difference in culture. Some of us come from a culture where info dumping is either explicitly not allowed in games, or is generally considered bad form. So, even when we aceept that it is part of this culture, we still don't necessarily like it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:45 pm I see a lot of complaining that I got lucky to get information, sorry to dissapoint everyone with being different and letting you know something helpful I guess
As I asked above, do you know anything about the source of this information? Is the woman a force for good? Does her information come from hosts or from another player? Does she always tell the truth?

And why are you interpreting as necessarily being that sabie is bad, as opposed to sabie is physically adjacent to someone bad?

This woman is described as “mad” and this is what you would call an NPC, so it’s not from any other player

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:47 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Trickster - Has an aura of three squares, within which any info that is given or received will be corrupted in the Trickster’s favour. When the Trickster kills, that kill can be forged. When the Trickster enters BTSC, it may be under any name.
There's also this.
You support my first theory then of trickster faking their own death?
I mean I don't think it's impossible but I'm not endorsing it here. Was the Trickster dead by the time you met that lady?

Supposedly yes

This event happened during Day2

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
Trickster - Has an aura of three squares, within which any info that is given or received will be corrupted in the Trickster’s favour. When the Trickster kills, that kill can be forged. When the Trickster enters BTSC, it may be under any name.
There's also this.

You support my first theory then of trickster faking their own death?

I see a lot of complaining that I got lucky to get information, sorry to dissapoint everyone with being different and letting you know something helpful I guess

I agree with you Mac, SVS is starting to rub me the wrong way

Also who cares about info drops??? What good does it do me to withhold that information? Talking about it later like “oh yeah I saw colonel mustard in the dining hall with the candlestick” isn’t gonna help us 3 days from now

Which I guess is implying you know who’s near you?

You’re saying you suspect someone near you is mafia then?

In any case, it’s been made known what I know. So either Sabie gets lynched or the other mafia team or any of the other killing roles hunt her down

Im willing to bet my theory is correct. Trusting strange old women in the woods sounds sound to me

I don’t take it as literal because she followed up with saying it’s an innuendo

Same thing ain’t it?

I asked this, Woman in the woods about "any shady, evil, scary characters" that had passed by lately.

To which she replied that she "saw sabie12 with a jagged blade with her." followed by if i "understood that innuendo" and gave me a wink.

To anyone still stumped, she has essentially told me that sabie12 is a member of the jagged blade. Who we know is one of the mafia teams

Im back and here to tell you more of my time visiting this old lady in the woods

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:00 pm Hey folks! It's been a fun game to spectate so far. I would like to request that everyone please do your best to avoid terms in contexts that have a high probability of being interpreted as a personal attack (e.g. stupid or idiot). I realize that isn't always easy to foresee, so just use your judgment. Keep at it; it's been a clean game.
You got it dummy.

Who hired this guy? I’m leaving a bad review on yelp

Another way to see it sloondawg is that I was met with an odd pushback and had to up the ante. But you don’t show your full hand until you need to yeah?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:03 pm Simply put I have solid grounds to believe Sabie is aligned with mafia based off a my interactions on the map
Why did it turn from "a hunch" to "solid grounds" based on map information? if you're allowed to say

I like to take my pants off slowly

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:24 pm @sprityo what about some other reads? not on sable but on others? Who are you seeing as bad? Who are you seeing as good?

I might as well be dabrusti from how blind I am

But he’s dead

I’m still paying the least bit of attention to the thread to be honest

I’m like playing my own game out here it feels like

I’m hoping that after tonight everything will be made clear as far as moving the game forward

But enough about me and my information on Sabie. Believe it or don’t, I can’t tell you anymore about it until LC gets back to me. Please continue whatever else was going on before then

Typically literal too.

Let it be noted, most things I say that aren’t an implicit joke have meanings behind them

In short from what I’ve already told you, I’ve described exactly how I’ve come upon this information if you didn’t gather that from the context clues

Linki: SVS you’re not the crazy old lady lol I’m taking about someone else

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:14 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

re is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.
sabie, I have seen the same as you out of sprityo and was looking at him yesterday for his lack of relevant participation.

@sprityo I really need to see some reads with reasons from you today, and I agree with S~V~S, why not tell us what you see about sabie12 now. You feel strongly enough to vote for her so that tells me you have defined something about her play that is problematic.
It’s less about play and more about information I’ve received

Would you trust a crazy old woman living in the woods Juliet’s?
ok, so you've received info about sabie. Is that information something you can share? I don''t understand your question about trusting a crazy old woman living in the woods, could you explain further? Also, what are some other reads you have that might be based on play? I'm trying to see how and what you're thinking to assess whether I think you're town or not.

linki

Uhhhhhh, let me check with LC

I don’t really have a choice if I’m wrong now do I? In any case yes I’m fine with that, I don’t think my information is likely wrong, especially with how it specifically mentions Sabie

Know it’s funny how I got my throat jumped down THE INSTANT I try to vote. Am I THAT easy of a target for mislynch?

More so how SVS quoted my smartass interaction with TH. I was thinking “wow some idiot is gonna look back at this later and assume it’s distancing or some bullshit” whenever I was reading DH’s interaction post that labeled me green

Simply put I have solid grounds to believe Sabie is aligned with mafia based off a my interactions on the map

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

re is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.
sabie, I have seen the same as you out of sprityo and was looking at him yesterday for his lack of relevant participation.

@sprityo I really need to see some reads with reasons from you today, and I agree with S~V~S, why not tell us what you see about sabie12 now. You feel strongly enough to vote for her so that tells me you have defined something about her play that is problematic.

It’s less about play and more about information I’ve received

Would you trust a crazy old woman living in the woods Juliet’s?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:41 am ebwop, also, that little mean post you made to TH that you took 2 posts to apologize for,

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:41 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:23 pm I'd rather lynch sprityo, he's low-key lurkin
I’m high key lurking you incessant ape

How about you say something that’s new?
I know someone up there ^^ connected you to TH other ways, based on the EOD. But this is just some really nice distancing imo. I like the cut of your jib. Sorrowfully, I think it's an evil jib in this game.

I missed you SVS I really do. But you jump to conclusions way too fast

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:13 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:03 am [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.
So as of right now I am the only person spirityo has accused the entire game. I don't even see a vote from them in the first lynch poll. They haven't even really shared any thoughts on anyone yet. I'm all for speculating about gameplay and roles and everything because I also do that but usually by this point in the game some of the speculation is regarding players and reads on players. Just find that interesting.

I am still not convinced wilgy isnt bad. Unless he just really doesn't care about this game at all he didn't even put up any defense about being accused or voted for. And he still really hasn't been around. It also now seems like maybe TH was defending him.

I was just speculating if TH was the trickster could he have killed nutella and someone killed him. I dont know if that really impacts anything but it would be an interesting turn of events if it did happen that way.

Can someone condense the argument on g man so I can get a better idea of where that is coming from? I didnt really get much from trying to read him before.

I know I haven't posted much there is a lot to follow and I get busy with work and things. I've been keeping up best I can though at least with reading everything.

That’s a uh. Big reaction for such a little post

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

A hunch, i want to pursue later.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:28 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster
What is the desired outcome of discussing this for civs?
Awareness, information to keep in mind

That’s all. I can’t be every player in the game so I have to make sure everyone can at least consider and dismiss or approve of information I think is relevant
How does knowing this information change the way civs should act, in your opinion?

it's not meant to change the way they act directly. i just said it's information to keep in mind. especially cause the statement to consider is laden with WIFOM

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster
What is the desired outcome of discussing this for civs?

Awareness, information to keep in mind

That’s all. I can’t be every player in the game so I have to make sure everyone can at least consider and dismiss or approve of information I think is relevant

I discuss what I personally deem interesting/important.

Point 1 being I made this role concept the trickster is based off of. And I have most definitely seen it used to make a town flip as mafia looking (@ quin)

Point 2: mechanically speaking the mafia would make the town less on guard, which would further present itself as a problem later on in the game. If the trickster is still alive and can forge roles, the mafia could fake even more kills and possibly their own deaths again.

The only true way to lie detect someone who is now dead is having a mortician or someone to confirm the dead’s identity, aka what I pointed out with lycantha

Until they find TH’s body we won’t be 100% sure that we actually was the trickster

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