The Syndicate

Good game all! I personally had the worst of the luck but overall the town was on point! And yeah, Sig did great this game!

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This is all epi's fault

have fun

and with 2 minutes remaining. i see it will be up to the judge

Epignosis wrote:Remaining civilians: Look at the timing of my vote post and the post before it. sprityo's only concern was not being lynched.

was that not obvious by INH asking me earlier, did you not read that?

ive been monitoring this game like a hawk for the past 5 hours epi, i did not want a repeat of day 1

i really hate you epi, youre making me do this

Im too paranoid to not vote until i get something decisive because unlike epi and wilgy, i am at chance to be lynched

You are correct in that aspect LC

Long Con wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Finding INH to be more convincing than LC. Confused by the accusations of "no conviction" in INH. Seems to have some conviction from where I'm standing. I'm more worried about accuracy than conviction. Completely agree that LC's focus has been on discrediting DDL in general than addressing accusations of noncommitalness/blending, which I think was the most important point brought up. (I do agree with LC on the specifics of the Glor statement. But that goes back to attacking the accuser, not the accusation.)
I just don't understand how a person could, three separate times, twist the truth to make me look worse... and it's completely innocent. Maybe once, it could be a mistake. A misread. But THREE TIMES? That indicates that his primary intention is to make people believe I'm bad, and that he's looking for ways to use thread stuff to push that, accuracy be damned.

He took the fact that I had a weak and noncommittal Day 1, and decided I was a weak member of the pack, and moved to capitalize on that.

to be fair you voted me day 1 for basically the same reason

@DrWilgy, do you have any ideas on who you'd vote?

linki: yeah, but if we yknow, agree to help eachother out

then there wont be a chance of either me or LC getting lynched. as crappy as that sounds

of the people here, i dont expect anyone else to show up, so the only people who havent voted are me, Epi, and DrWilgy

insertnamehere wrote:
sprityo wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
sprityo wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Spirityo, GTH, what is your read on...drumroll...Long Con?
Upset Towny
would you vote Long Con to save yourself?
in the current situation? no

if it was just the two of us with no chance of anyone else, yes.
what about the situation now?

well we have time, and time will tell who isnt lucky

Epi still hasnt voted correct? and he also thinks LC is town

insertnamehere wrote:
sprityo wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Spirityo, GTH, what is your read on...drumroll...Long Con?
Upset Towny
would you vote Long Con to save yourself?

in the current situation? no

if it was just the two of us with no chance of anyone else, yes.

insertnamehere wrote:Spirityo, GTH, what is your read on...drumroll...Long Con?

Upset Towny

Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sprityo wrote:Epi, youre the one that said youre voting for one of LC, DDL, Sprityo.

Has that changed then?
I didn't say exactly that.

Epignosis wrote:I am willing to vote sprityo, LC, or DDL of those three names.
To be clear, that was in response to someone else. I may have meant "of those four names."

So you havent made up your mind but you wish to cease further talk about LC because- ????

Epi, youre the one that said youre voting for one of LC, DDL, Sprityo.

Has that changed then?

so for DDL, here are the two posts that i really can tell of him talking about LC and why he doesnt like him:

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I just cared that you had enough commitment to the game to judge people but not enough to make more commited votes than the one you made. That came across as rather hipocritical.
You know what, we're coming back to this as well.

If I had been accusing someone else of not having enough suspicions, or not being involved enough to make an informed vote, THAT would be hypocritical.

Me called Glorfindel out on his "vindicated" claim was a self-contained disagreement with one post. There is NOTHING hypocritical about that. Maybe if I had also made a similar post earlier somehow wherein I claimed to be vindicated in my views, and THEN put Glorf down for the same.... THAT would be hypocritical.

However, none of that happened. Your assessment of "that came across as rather hypocritical" is yet another example of DDL intentionally twisting things to make me look bad.

I'll be satisfied if just ONE person out there can understand this.
It sounds like you are just angry.

Now to figure out whether you are angry because you think I'm treating you unfairly (so civ) or because you think I'm suspecting you for the wrong reasons and didn't earn the right to scumread you (so bad).

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
sig wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I'm sorry I haven't been here. We've been moving. I see I have 12 pages to catch up on. Anyone want to give me a quick summary. I hate to ask, b/c I really despise it when others ask after not participating. But I feel like I have a good excuse. On top of moving this week, all three of my kids have gone through a stomach bug. So I was packing and moving AND getting very little sleep. Summary please?
Some people want to lynch spirit because he replaced Glorf after he said some pingy stuff. He seems to be the main wagon here. I don't see any other big ones.
And it falls within his scum meta.

Why LC?
He is around, he is paying attention at every big discussion, and he is posting his opinions, but not committing to anything. He spent a long time talking about how he didn't know who to vote for on d1, but then at the end he was okay with pushing the nearest wagon around.

Long Con wrote:Lemme go look at sprityo...

Mmm. not a lot there, even within the few posts he has. Ok, sorry sprityo, but it's follow this, or kinda randomly go elsewhere. I'm going to just vote sprityo, and basically cross my fingers. I really have no suspicions right now.
And right after that, he was accusing Glorf of voting for bad reasons:

Long Con wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:And there you go... vindicated again!
Damn, yo, what vindication? What if DDL is a baddie? Your vote would have tied them up, and maybe changed EVERYTHING. It's a scotche early to be proclaiming "vindication".
What if I was bad and you had "randomly" voted for me instead of spirit, LC? Wouldn't that have changed everything either?

Eh... that kind of noncommital playstyle is just the kind of player I like to vote for. It usually works, at least on NF.

the second quote more-so, but it seems the whole reason DDL began to poke at LC was due to LC being "non-commital" circa day 1. Not to say this is the only thing DDL has done, he also prodded into quin about, uhhh, stuff. And decided to back off. Maybe he did so to pursue the LC vote since it was an easier option at the time? who knows.

And lookin at LC, well, its a lot of arguing that DDL is bad because he "twisted [LC's] words" around. But where that's the arguement against DDL, the arguement against LC is "non-commital"

I will say LC looks worse in his frustration towards the situation, but i dont think it's fair for DDL to push a lynch on something as small as not putting forth effort, especially on this early game day.

So if i have to, which im considering not to if possible, i would vote for DDL

DrWilgy wrote:Thank you LC.

General consensus. Do we think more baddies are openly discussing or hiding in the background?

Hiding in the back

sig wrote:
sprityo wrote:I willsay, however, I won't be voting for Sig. I feel his vote is justified, albeit wrong.

What? are you confused on that i believe where you are coming from but you arent right in this instance?

@DrWilgy Glorfindel has little content and all excuse day 1, I guess to embrace what he had stated in Mad Max where he wouldnt say his alignment (which im still not entirely sure why) and then he doesnt vote on purpose since he doesnt like the lynch options (DDL and SprityoV1).

Theres nothing TO agree upon besides the fact that I didnt like my own lynch

and im about to read over the former and LC now that i have my laptop. Im also taking into account why others are choosing sides to see if it makes sense.

Hold that thought, I gotta re check it

DrWilgy wrote:Yo Sprit, why should I not vote for you?

I replaced into Glorfs spot and the only person currently voting me with an actual opinion is Sig since he believes his meta knowledge of Glorf placing out coupled with the sub par playstyle of glorf on day 0/ day 1 means that the role is mafia, but that isn't the case

I'm going to read both LC and DDL because my vote will more than likely go to one of them

Ebeop: Sig*

Sprityo is up for lynching with 3 votes, dig has two crappy votes on him and there's currently a discussion on LC vs DDL

wait wtf what time is is dang website. I swear it's 3 hours

Sorry, 3 hours

Er, are votes changeable?

Also we have 2 hours left in the day

Golden wrote:Merry christmas all.

I haven't read this day phase yet, so maybe Soneji has redeemed himself... but the sprit vote doesn't make him look any better to me.

Voting soneji, I look forward to my catch up on the other side of Christmas!

@MP His last post he made

Yes it's his only post

No, I feel Dom is laying low when I've seen him be much more into the game.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, I don't really have time to be here any longer than a few minutes. I can let LC go for now since I don't feel particularly strongly about a vote in that direction. I also like that sprityo 2.0 was in here before and contributing his thoughts. I can never read MM for shit and I don't have time to dig through an ISO of over 50 posts. I'd rather go after someone less active at the moment.

sprityo wrote:
soup wrote:whoa sorry I am late, going to catch up when I get off work
Also,

Linki: I think he's justified to believe as such, but he's wrong

Epignosis wrote:
sprityo wrote:
Quin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.
I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*
I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.
Homegirl is sick. She voted and went to bed. It's clear she isn't even reading the thread.

None of that tells me whether or not she's good or bad, but I wouldn't lynch her for "lazy playing."

I don't see it as ground to lynching, it's more so me noting that it's distasteful

Quin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.
I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*
I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.

soup wrote:whoa sorry I am late, going to catch up when I get off work

Also,

I willsay, however, I won't be voting for Sig. I feel his vote is justified, albeit wrong.

*and that's why it wouldn't be hard since there's limited people to interact with

@MP give me 30 minutes to get home and open my laptop

It shouldn't be too hard to provide a small sum of reads and/or questions about why so and so said what.

The game has been stifled in activity due to Christmas I feel

(In my experience with pairings, you just put people either together or against, so if player a is town and player b is supposed to be opposite, you pursue player B if player A flips town)

Albeit this is a flawed method that can be misconstrued

Glorf*

My signature is never the more truer

MovingPictures07 wrote:
sprityo wrote:It's alright MP I'll replace you if I get lynched two days in a row

:Noble:
Haha, that's the spirit.

I don't want to be replaced. Normally I would when I cannot be totally on top of a game, but I'm going to try to become as engaged as possible. Maybe you can replace someone else though if that does happen.

Why shouldn't you be lynched? Specifically, point me to something in your 2.0 incarnation's batch of posts that should lead me and others to believe you to be town.

From me personally or in Florida posts? Because I'm pretty sure we've established he was just having a bad time. Unless you're dig, and insist on following a meta

Let me rephrase that, why quin would be scum in association with another player, cause I don't think t was just a blatant "I think quin is bad" thing

@MP I'm on my way home after being out ALL day, so I can throw you some stuff then

I personally wanted to look into quin and why people didn't like em, even though I think quin is pretty okay looking off the top of my head?

It's alright MP I'll replace you if I get lynched two days in a row

:Noble:

Not to be a special snowflake, but to rehash some things for players who I haven't played with really, my name is spelled S P R I T Y O. But feel free to say Sprit for short (sorry I had just noticed an increased number of the instance of spirit which is NOT the correct root word

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First off, shame on you all for making what Epi said look so incredibly insulting. It seemed clear to me he was saying civ Quin is too good to give credence to such an obvious kind of accusation. It's to obvious to be a real teammate indication, no one is that obvious. He was complimenting you I believe Quin, not insulting you.
I don't think we deserve to be shamed. That's how I interpreted his post, it's not my fault that it was so cryptic. When Epi explains it, and it's not an insult, then there will be no insult to be shamed for. And this is Epi we're talking about here, is it really that far-fetched that he'd throw an insult out there?

Secondly, I'm struggling with the fact that everything LC says sounds ok, but my gut is screaming baddie when it comes to him and I can't put my finger on the reason why...
Daisy, don't worry about it, it's very much everyone's first instinct to suspect me. It's hilarious. I think I chose the wrong username for playing Mafia.
My username comes from the villain in Along Came a Spider, whose a serial killer/kidnapper. Yours is easy to understand for everyone but mine probably comes off worse to those who know the source.

Chaos marmot much?

I don't want to pitch in on the DDL-LC thing since I might be biased against LC. I am however interested in why epi thinks quin is bad so I'll have to look into that a little bit sometime later

Got this at the mall just now, I think it's a sign

Spoiler: show

sig wrote: See here is the thing I've been voted for by two people. One for no reason and one for one line of something I said, so really there is no real reasoning for my wagon.

welcome to my past life

Hoping to have something that can be discussed tomorrow, but it seems everyone is at a stalemate of sorts in regards to whom we should lynch. Or at least a good majority of people. but two nights of information should reveal to us something useful.

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