The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I think I'm going with BWT again and someone else, but I'm not sure who.

Sloonei, who are the people you have in mind?

Why would you repeat your nomination for BWT in light of him not having done anything new.

...I mean, I realize the answer could lie in my question, sort of, but still, why make it one of your two choices for the Day? Does no relevant suspect brought forth inspire you?

Not really. I guess you could say BWT is a tangent that is yet to be solved.

Do you reckon the chances of it being solved are high toDay?

Maybe. This reminds me of how the third parties are treated in the presidential election right now.

Voting is my right and I'm going with BWT and Sorsha.

Ricochet wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I think I'm going with BWT again and someone else, but I'm not sure who.

Sloonei, who are the people you have in mind?

Why would you repeat your nomination for BWT in light of him not having done anything new.

...I mean, I realize the answer could lie in my question, sort of, but still, why make it one of your two choices for the Day? Does no relevant suspect brought forth inspire you?

Not really. I guess you could say BWT is a tangent that is yet to be solved.

First mention of INH.

Sorsha wrote:Dom is making me laugh so I'm not voting for him.

I think I'm going to vote for two of the prefects. Jimmy, Scotty, INH... See who's the toughest.

Sorsha wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm here

Hi Sorsha! What's going on? Do you have any suspects? What do you think of Dom, MM, and Russ?

Have only been skimming. Looks like Dom is mostly getting votes for the trump schtick, mm for some connection to wilgy and I have no idea what Russ did to be suspicious. My own suspicion is inh but it could probably be more of an annoyance than suspicion. Lobbying for prefect and promising to be active and then bailing.

I don't really find Dom suspicious I could be ok with a mm vote, Russ I don't know yet.

I think this reasoning is a little strange - INH might just be busy or something. Did he mention anything about his schedule?

Sorsha wrote:Voted for myself and inh

And the final vote.

Yeah I could vote for Sorsha.

Sloonei wrote:

Sloonei wrote:3 hours to go and I think my short list is down to 3 people. Right now I am leaning toward 2 of DDL, Russtifinko, and timmer. So far no one has more than a single vote, let's start working toward a consensus.

I don't really feel bad about any of those - Boomslangs suggestions seem better to me, especially Sorsha.

I think I'm going with BWT again and someone else, but I'm not sure who.

Sloonei, who are the people you have in mind?

Boomslang wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Dom wrote:Boomslang, does a careless player mean an evil player that needs to be kept on the other side of the wall?

I'd say a careless player needs to be carefully vetted until we can figure out what's going on Case in point is Nerolunar. "I guess you could say I am guilty of saying the same thing, which I kind of am Ugh. I am a goddamn hypocrite." I really don't like this defense. If you're calling your own behavior out as shady, you're asking us to trust your civility on nothing but your word. I agree with the punishment of BWT's self-voting, but that's about it.

That's not what I meant. I am a hypocrite because I voted timmer because of reasons(not being able to understand the game and the different arguments being thrown around) I exhibit myself. It wasn't really a "defense" more like an elaboration of my previous vote. I don't think I am acting "shady" - more the opposite by doubting my own point of view about things. If you disagree, let me know. I think you reached a little here with your interpretation.

But you still made the vote, and you still say that you didn't make it for good reasons. If we can't trust you to make informed, useful votes, how can we trust that you're working the best interests of the town?

In retrospect, no, my vote was poorly made. I know that, but nobody makes completely rational and utilitarian choices all the time, whether it is town or not. I am in no way proud of my scumhunting abilities(again, see transistor) and I have never been. I suck, I really do. But I also try to improve, especially as a civilian because thats the alignment I am worst at.

I value transparency more than anything, and being able to question or criticise my own previous line of thoughts is what ultimately will help me improve and learn from my mistakes. I don't want to cruise along faking false confidence just for the sake of appearing linear or composed.

With that said, lynch me if you want. I trust the dice.

Boomslang wrote:

Dom wrote:Boomslang, does a careless player mean an evil player that needs to be kept on the other side of the wall?

I'd say a careless player needs to be carefully vetted until we can figure out what's going on Case in point is Nerolunar. "I guess you could say I am guilty of saying the same thing, which I kind of am Ugh. I am a goddamn hypocrite." I really don't like this defense. If you're calling your own behavior out as shady, you're asking us to trust your civility on nothing but your word. I agree with the punishment of BWT's self-voting, but that's about it.

That's not what I meant. I am a hypocrite because I voted timmer because of reasons(not being able to understand the game and the different arguments being thrown around) I exhibit myself. It wasn't really a "defense" more like an elaboration of my previous vote. I don't think I am acting "shady" - more the opposite by doubting my own point of view about things. If you disagree, let me know. I think you reached a little here with your interpretation.

Im also really digging Rico this game. Strong civ read on him.

Welcome Sloonei!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Nerolunar

Notice of inactivity. Okay. Says he'll jump on a "reasonable bandwagon". Okay. Explains what a "reasonable bandwagon" is: a wagon well explained. supported by someone he feels good about. Not sure how it makes sense to have town reads this early but not bad reads of your own, but okay. Forgets to vote.

Post about Glorfindel being too nice that is kind of silly because Glorfindel is always nicer than a puppy. But okay, I won't pretend I can read Glorfindel well either. Explains why he missed day 1, then votes for 2 guys who are voting random. As he says, "random votes are no-no".

This guy is a baddie read of mine. He seems to be always around, his post count is not way too low, and he will explain all of his moves, but not make anything more than that. Looks like calculated scumplay to me. Not as bad as Boomslang I suppose, but still fishy. His inability to stay active sounds sincere, but it feels like he's not trying as much as he is able to.

Fair points. I will try to explain a bit.

1) Glorfindel projects innate civilian vibes just by being polite and has a history of dislinking being a baddie. Saying "my friend" in nearly every post looks forced to me. It pinged me because it looked unnatural to me. I did not vote for him because I did not remember much else of what he has said so he might have redeemed himself.

2) I usually find myself with a rope around my neck if I do not play somewhat calculated. Waaay too many times have I been either too eager or too lazy and gotten mislynched for it. Transistor is a recent example. I want to be as transparent as possible in what I do, even if it is only a few sentences. Well, I am finally done with the other game and can commit a bit more to this.

nutella wrote: Nerolunar: Kind of like DF, his participation has been low but fairly regular and decent. The only thing that gives me pause is that he voted for BWT and Timmer on D2, staying far away from the MM/Russ/Dom contest. Seems like maybe he hadn't been caught up but it would be nice to know if he had thoughts on any of that.

I was somewhat caught up but I honestly didn't get that conflict. I will try to be more active and work around the different conflicts and arguments. I know that sounds lazy as hell, but with all these players and a huge number of votes being thrown around it is difficult for me to work out the layers of this game. I feel a little stupid tbh But I will not let go of this game without attempting to grasp it

Boomslang wrote: I don't like Nerolunar just kind of shrugging off my criticism of his D2 votes. The distinction between "random" and "impulse" votes seems spurious, especially when he says random is "being indifferent about the voted players" and then that his impulse votes were based on Timmer and BWT being "careless and uninterested." I don't get excited to vote for players who seem uninterested; carelessness is a slightly better criterion, but he provided no specific evidence. Can you back that up from thread posts, Nerolunar?

This is the post that made me vote for timmer:

timmer wrote:Added some votes to the people wit votes. No time to figure things out just yet.

I guess you could say I am guilty of saying the same thing, which I kind of am Ugh. I am a goddamn hypocrite.

This post made me vote for BWT:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I hate having to do this, but I haven't caught up at all, I'm more than 10 pages behind, and I've had a really bad cold I've been dealing with for the last few days. I'm going to vote for myself and random another person on the list. I'm hoping with any off day tomorrow that I'll have enough time to read through everything and catch back up. Sorry everyone!

I hate random votes, and what I hate more is self-voting, even in a game like this. Seems like BWT wants to duel another random person and squash the opponent no matter who it is. I don't like it.

Boomslang wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I'm voting birdwithteeth and timmer. Random votes are just a no-no, despite how dificult this game is/seems to be.

Um... you didn't actually mention either of them in previous posts? I agree random votes are a no-no, but you just seemed to make two.

Rather, they were impulse votes. "Random" to me means choosing blindly from the player list and going with that, or simply feeling indifferent about the voted players. I voted as I did based on my reaction to Timmer and BWT, who seemed careless and uninterested. I believe there is a difference.

I'm here, but I already voted.

I'm voting birdwithteeth and timmer. Random votes are just a no-no, despite how dificult this game is/seems to be.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Im in another game that is very dramatic at the moment, so I will be flying under the radar for now.

There is some good discussion going on though.

MP's reaction to the slight suspicions against him over his GTHs looks way too defensive for my taste. *Ping*

Did you follow this up with a vote?

Nope. I'm not sure I would have.

Glorfindel wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Glorfindel seems to go out of his way to say "my friend" in nearly every post. Is he projecting his usual friendly civ playstyle? Also hey Matty

I forgot to vote yesterday, sorry about that.

Hey Jan! I didn't realize it was you. It is a pleasure playing with you

Hey, Magnus It's great to have you back playing with us again And no, I'm certain that you know me well enough by now to expect me to be courteous to my fellow players
I notice that you missed the vote at EoD 1. I'm just wondering - were you simply undecided about for whom you'd vote or was there some other reason?

That, and I simply forgot to do it.

I'm glad we got a baddie though, but I'm still undecided for today. There are so many players and I'm struggling keeping track of what's going on. I kinda regret signing up but the setup looks really interesting. I'm keen on laying low and getting hold of this game for a while. It may look scummy but

I do however believe Scotty is good, at least in a GTH kind of sense.

Glorfindel seems to go out of his way to say "my friend" in nearly every post. Is he projecting his usual friendly civ playstyle? Also hey Matty

I forgot to vote yesterday, sorry about that.

Hey Jan! I didn't realize it was you. It is a pleasure playing with you

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Aaaand I'm not sure who to vote for. Maybe I will be in a few hours, otherwise I will probably follow up on a reasonable bandwagon.

Define a reasonable bandwagon.

A wagon that is fairly well supported for a day 1 wagon(which is dubious in itself though), and made by someone I'm feeling okay about.

But then again we have to vote for two persons.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Honestly I just avoid analysing anything Scotty says or does until the end of day 1. Because he is always random and illogical during that time, regrdless of alignment. His posts are just for laughing.

And something he would want to exploit.

I voted him for prefect though, so...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm going to hold an online seminar on Mafia Day 1 philosophy.

Please do :P

Aaaand I'm not sure who to vote for. Maybe I will be in a few hours, otherwise I will probably follow up on a reasonable bandwagon.

Im in another game that is very dramatic at the moment, so I will be flying under the radar for now.

There is some good discussion going on though.

MP's reaction to the slight suspicions against him over his GTHs looks way too defensive for my taste. *Ping*

I am voting for Scotty because he used the word fam. It resonates with me.

I am also voting for Sig because he is pretty cool.

Hey everyone! Finally the game is up and running.

Im relieved that posting during night is prohibited - Im currently in another game elsewhere but will try to be active here too. Good luck to everyone, it has been a long time since I played here last