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G-Man wrote:Chasing is a good way to describe how I was reading you. You didn't bust in with set ideas like in Mad Max. You asked questions and tried to sort stuff out. Can you see how I made the connection?

Yeah, I can definitely see it. I was misunderstanding your case, me thinks.

G-Man wrote:
Quin wrote:What do you mean I 'prefer not to have information', G-Man?
Check it out. You said it. It makes sense.

Oh, okay. I was saying that I infinitely prefer being town to scum because I think the chase and the not-knowing is one of the most entertaining things about mafia. It's an overarching opinion, so I'm not sure it's particularly relevant here.

What do you mean I 'prefer not to have information', G-Man?

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...

But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I'll be looking at you too.

Ricochet wrote:So what did G-Man claim after all? I missed that as well.

Hatch.

Speaking of, hopefully G-Man can find the time to elaborate on the ISO's he did a bit.

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:Scotty jumped on the end of that wagon at the last second after it had already taken charge. He hadn't voted before then AFAIK, so I might actually be inclined to civ read him for that. If he were bad, maybe he would've just not voted.
I saw that Sorsha had voted Scotty right after I did, and Scotty jumped on Soneji right after that.

Make that a slight as shit civ read, then.

Spacedaisy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.
The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month
Also,
LOL, and you weren't even bad. So fun to watch, can't lie.

I almost went insane playing that game

Almost.

Scotty jumped on the end of that wagon at the last second after it had already taken charge. He hadn't voted before then AFAIK, so I might actually be inclined to civ read him for that. If he were bad, maybe he would've just not voted.

ok time to pee

Spacedaisy wrote:I rolled with Soneji. Kind of fun, I've never been part of a CFD before.

The last time I was in a game with one I was suspected for half a month

I VOTED SONEJI

LET'S COME TO A DECISION PEOPLE I REALLY NEED TO PEE

I could vote Soneji or Scotty. Neither of them have much of a presence, and that's about the best I can do with 5 minutes remaining.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:If it comes to a tie breaker I'll be moving my vote to Eloh to save G-Man. I do not want to do that. Alternatively you could all vote INH.
You feel confident enough in G-Man's alignment to save him?

Linki: You're considering voting someone for roleplay/low content?
And?
It's just odd that you want others to excuse your low content because, hey it's Day 1! But you would consider voting someone else for that reason, that's all I'm saying

Quin: Can you please explain why you feel that confident about him this early?

MP: Why Elo over G-Man?

Linki: I'm here, who are we considering?

He's taken control and after he covered the doubt I initially had for him he hasn't given me room to doubt him again. He's also providing the majority of the meat of the thread, so bad or not, he's one of the only people keeping conversation going. So in reality, it's a mixture of a town read and an adversity to lynching active players when many still haven't made a name for themselves.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'd also prefer to vote Elo over G-Man myself, but I'm not really sold on Elo being a worthwhile vote.

That's why I don't want to do it if I don't have to.

Who's here? We've got 15 minutes to come up with a better alternative.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:If it comes to a tie breaker I'll be moving my vote to Eloh to save G-Man. I do not want to do that. Alternatively you could all vote INH.
You feel confident enough in G-Man's alignment to save him?

Linki: You're considering voting someone for roleplay/low content?

Yep.

If it comes to a tie breaker I'll be moving my vote to Eloh to save G-Man. I do not want to do that. Alternatively you could all vote INH.

Votes are changeable. I don't see the point in withholding your vote right now, Sorsha.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:How are ties settled, Golden?
A post from season one, for context.
This is interesting, in light of the discussion regarding fake roles being randomized.

You beat me to it, I was literally just about to comment on it.

Golden wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Ah, I was under the assumption that if there was 1 baddie and 1 civ left, the baddie would win the game. Was it wrong of me to assume that?
Well, I wouldn't have answered the question anyway, and as there are five seasons to go, I'm still not going to yet.

But it is interesting as a host to see the assumptions behind thought processes sometimes. I designed the choices of roles and fake claims very deliberately with the idea in mind that people would make assumptions based on the claims. It was fun to see that play out.

There's the post, for reference.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:How are ties settled, Golden?
A post from season one, for context.

So we won't find out until we cause a tie to happen.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

How are ties settled, Golden?

insertnamehere wrote:I hate to break a promise, like how I said I'd inventory and ration out all of the Hatch food, and I just ended up giving it away to everyone, but I'm keeping my vote on Quin for the time being.

I don't like his reasoning for suspecting me, and I don't like his switcharoo over to MP and then back.

He just seems a little desperate to point his finger at someone for what are, in my opinion, kinda arbitrary reasons. It's enough for him to get a Day 1 vote from me.

If I was going to vote for anyone else, it'd probably be G-Man. That weird and obviously wrong logic behind wanting to clear Epi and Faraday (who is confusingly not playing as Faraday) just keeps annoying me, like a piece of cilantro stuck in my teeth.

Then again, he's the dude out here providing the most content, and I think some of his wack-o theories have something to them.

I should have made a bet with someone that you'd pull something like this.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?
The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.
I'm not sure it's enough to compel me that INH is a good d1 vote, but that's fair. Hopefully he can come back soon and answer your concern.

Do you have a shortlist for your vote today?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Quin, I'm honestly not super invested into this game yet. Can you walk me through your INH suspicion?

The biggest thing is that he put a vote on me just because my vote was on him. He didn't indicate any suspicion held towards me. He said he'd move it when I either explained why it was still there or moved it, and I did the latter almost immediately. He was still around for a good hour after that but made no indication that his vote was going to move. He's been gone for a while now so I can easily take this as a Day 1 excuse to drop a vote and fade into the background for the rest of the day.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?
I didn't choose G-Man because I'd found reason to civ read him before now, so he was the only one left. The highlighted sounds like you're implying that my reasoning should be stronger on Day 1 than it should Day 2 or others, so I hope I'm wrong about my interpretation.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are saying I am implying. What I was saying is that if it were Day 2 or later, I could see the baddies being strategically trying to place themselves in the same location as a target, but I don't think it is as likely on Day 1 when they are trying to get a feel for everyone just like the civilians are. I'm sure their goal will be to get rid of power roles sooner rather than later, but they have to watch posts and actions to try and see who they think might have a power role just like we do to see who we think is bad. So I think it's more likely that instead of trying to get in place with someone they want to kill, they probably will have at least one in both locations. So I don't see what benefit waiting to declare would be for the baddies on Day 1. Did that make more sense?

Yes it does. And I agree. Maybe I'll move my vote back to INH.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mr. Eko's Prayer/Jesus Stick - Lost Again S2 Rainbow #1

G-Man
insertnamehere
Quin
Spacedaisy

DFaraday
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis
Ricochet
Scotty
Soneji
Sorsha

Why do you town read INH?

G-Man wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I dunno about you guys, but I think Ana, I mean, G-Man's plan could help us out, especially in order to protect guys who say they have, like, power roles that could benefit the civ cause.

I'm willing to give it a shot, and I'm gonna head over to the Hatch tonight. Jack told me to inventory the food, so I'm gonna try and get started on that. Plus, there's a record player.

Anyone seen Jack around? He's been kinda silent lately. Probably just went marching off into the jungle to go save our lives again.
Can't give it much of a shot tonight, seeing as you folks already have us split 5-5:

Beach Bodies
-Dom
-Scotty
-Soneji
-Sorsha
-Spacedaisy

Hatchlings
-DFaraday
-Elohcin
-insertnamehere
-Quin
-Ricochet

Undeclared
-Epignosis
-G-Man
-MovingPictures07

Or if you're the curious type like me...

1. Elohcin- Hatch
2. Quin- Hatch
3. DFaraday- Hatch
4. Scotty- Beach
5. Ricochet- Hatch
6. Soneji- Beach
7. Spacedaisy- Beach
8. Dom- Beach
9. Sorsha- Beach
10. INH- Hatch

I'm going to run some ISO's tonight while I have time. I want to see 1) which of you deserves my vote, and 2) where more people I don't trust are congregating for the night.

If you want to go to the trouble, G-Man, this could do with being narrowed down to specific times as well in future.

I didn't highlight it. Sorry.

'but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point'

Spacedaisy wrote:
Quin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?
He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.
I could buy this reasoning on Day 2 or later, but I don't think it's a strong enough reasoning for a vote at this point. Why did you choose him over the others who have not declared?

I didn't choose G-Man because I'd found reason to civ read him before now, so he was the only one left. The highlighted sounds like you're implying that my reasoning should be stronger on Day 1 than it should Day 2 or others, so I hope I'm wrong about my interpretation.

Let it be known that INH only voted me because my vote was still on him after retracting my suspicion, and specifically prefaced that he'd move it once I moved mine. I moved it almost two hours ago and he's made no indication of doing the same.

Ricochet wrote:Why MP, brotha?

He's one of few who hasn't declared his location yet. I'm inclined to believe the baddies would wait until later on so they can go to wherever their target goes.

insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.
why

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.
Why him? You want to know people's thoughts. Tell us your own thoughts on INH.
I did, nerds

Quin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.
INH, I think you were scouting for potential power roles. What say you to this assertion?
I no longer think this.
Okay, dude. Then why is your vote on me?

I'm just gonna put my vote on you until you either give another explanation for why you suspect me, or you remove your vote.

I forgot to move it tbfh. It's going to MP.

I don't like anyone who's withheld their location for tonight until the last minute.

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.
why

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.
Why him? You want to know people's thoughts. Tell us your own thoughts on INH.

I did, nerds

Quin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.
INH, I think you were scouting for potential power roles. What say you to this assertion?

I no longer think this.

Spacedaisy wrote:Those who have already voted, could you tell us if votes are changeable?

Confirmed. It says they are in the r00lz.

I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.

Epignosis wrote:I'm Kate. I have boobs. Kind of.

I really don't remember much.

I think you shot someone that one time.

Elohcin wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Ok, pushed the button five minutes ago. Figure I can do another around before sleep, anyone taking the shift afterwards?
Contributing something more substantive to the game would be appreciated. Or do I need to borrow Eko's Jesus Stick?
I am contributing, brotha. It's keeping this whole game alive.
Did y'all all have a Lost marathon without me to refresh your memories about the show? I am kind of lost by some of these posts :huh

I can't even roleplay because it's been years since I last watched the show in its entirety

I didn't expect it to be a thing in this game

insertnamehere wrote:I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.

INH, I think you were scouting for potential power roles. What say you to this assertion?

Dom wrote:Hi all.

I am feeling ill. I will need to rest by the beach for a day or two.

But for real-- I am ill. Please excuse my crabby-ness or subdued play.

How do we feel about G-Man?

G-Man

Spacedaisy wrote:
Golden wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Golden wrote:Daisy had post 108. For that, she gets...
Uh... what do I get? Hopefully something good!
No, you don't get anything. I just thought it was worth noting.
Well that was just mean...

Tell me about it.

G-Man wrote:
Quin wrote:
G-Man wrote:Circling back to this prior thought:

G-Man wrote:Converse strategy being we get everyone to claim a location and load up one location each night and only leave two people at the other (the Beach tonight, for instance). That way the baddies will try to flock to the fuller place to hide themselves in or abstain from killing if they're one of the two at the other site.
What do you all (everybody) think about piling the rest of us in the hatch, leaving three people on the beach to pressure any beach-dwelling killers into abstention?
What is the advantage of that?

Reading this does give me an idea of something to look out for, though. I'll elaborate another day.
Could be a useful way to limit the baddies' options. If only three people are on the beach and one of them is a baddie, it would take a bold baddie team to have their Beach Body baddie take out one of the other two and make it easier to figure him or her out. I admit that it doesn't help much but it could make one of the two locations a safe house of sorts.

As the game progresses, we could also coordinate the location calls and stick any super-civvies in the small spot. One part bait in case we're wrong about any seeming super-civs and two parts keeping those players out of harm's way.

There are potential drawbacks (bold baddies, an indy killer unafraid to draw attention, misreading players, abstentions, etc.) and the game may be too small to try it effectively. Then there's the human element. "Don't tell me what I can't do!" and whatnot (I'm looking at you Locke).

Just thinking out loud here, really.

I wouldn't go as far to say as that I think this is a valid strategy, but at the same time I'm leaning towards thinking that this comes from a civilian mindset than a scum one.

I also had a thought that we could put our top scum reads together and sit everyone else in the other location, but abstaining from a NK would make that pretty ineffective. The mafia abstaining from the kill may work in our favour, though. And like you said, people just might not cooperate.

That is a big question mark.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:Never mind. I'm feeling meh again.
John, take me to the question mark.

Never mind. I'm feeling meh again.

G-Man wrote:Circling back to this prior thought:

G-Man wrote:Converse strategy being we get everyone to claim a location and load up one location each night and only leave two people at the other (the Beach tonight, for instance). That way the baddies will try to flock to the fuller place to hide themselves in or abstain from killing if they're one of the two at the other site.
What do you all (everybody) think about piling the rest of us in the hatch, leaving three people on the beach to pressure any beach-dwelling killers into abstention?

I've been thinking about this. I still want to hear more about this from G-Man, but I think I can understand where he's coming from.

Spacedaisy wrote:G-Man losing a little of his standing with me already, that was quick. It was already pointed out that the baddies would want to be where there are more people, easier to hide. But he basically just tried to propose a plan that would allow baddies to easily hide without looking overly suspicious.

I still don't understand the point of the idea he presented, so I'd still like to know whatever was going on in his head to propose that plan before we throw him in his own tiger pit.

Dom is so obviously Sayid...maybe.

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