The Syndicate

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I thought it was blatantly obvious that when I said 'steering the direction of the thread' I was referring to your thinking that I'm 'shifting attention'
There's a big difference between trying to get the target off your own back and steering the thread.

Now we get to argue about whether I actually considered non-semantic differences when I threw a synonym into the conversation to keep it fresh. Yippee.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:You're putting out pre-emptive defences against me, trying to build up what you aren't because you're not sure where I'm going to come at you from. It's all discrediting. Most of what I've seen from you in the last two pages is about discrediting. Discrediting sig, discrediting me... it's not 'here are the baddies', its 'don't listen to these guys', and I don't like it.
You started it. You completely misrepresented my sig case, and that's why we're here now. Don't stick my name on this and fling mud at me for it. You're just as, if not more responsible.

On top of that, you're exaggerating the timelines. This debacle only started on this page. Everything else between us was part of a regular discussion.

And you're completely right that I don't know where you're going to come at me from, because I think you're being completely disingenuous right now.
What "case" did I 'completely misrepresent', and how did I misrepresent it?

See the first post I called you out on on this page.

Saying 'case' is like saying 'damning'. No-one needs a 'case' on Ishmael. We can completely ignore Ishmael. If Sig was Ishmael (which I don't think he is), why do you even care?

We absolutely need a case on Ishmael. If we can identify any indie, then we identify someone who is likely not a member of the Troupe or a Guardian. That is why I care.

Don't tell me I started it. Let's look at the evidence shall we...

Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.
Yes there is. We still don't know why Glorfindel subbed out or the conversations he may have had with his team about it. He could have told his team to bus him for the civ cred towards the beginning of the game.
The fact that he was replaced anyway does counter that theory to a degree, but there's no good reason to think that both couldn't have happened.

@Dom - I'm packing. Going away for a few days, so I've got to get stuff done. Not that I was actually lying low in the first place.
Whoop - the post that started it. You deciding to jump into a conversation I was having with LC (and by proxy Dom), by flinging mud at sig for how he could be a teammate of glorf. This despite your 'damning case' that he is Ishmael? What sense am I supposed to make of this? Why did you decide to jump into a conversation I wasn't having with you with an explanation for how sig could be bad? And how is this me starting it?

There is no way you can legitimately interpret that as anything more significant than conversation. You said something I disagreed with, and I told you why I disagreed with it. I didn't attack you or sig, or infer any suspicion on you as a result of it. Yes, I think sig is Ishmael. But I'd be a moron if I wasn't exploring other options. This post didn't start it. Again, refer to where the misrepresentation actually took place.

Here is what happened:

I had a go at LC for having sig as orange in his rainbow. LC had a perfectly reasonable answer. You decide to fling poo at sig as to how he could be a baddie. I rebut poo fling, and ask you if you actually believe sig could be bad. You say no, and then bring up your 'damning case' that he is Ishmael, a role which I never mentioned.

So first you fling poo at sig for being bad, then for being an indy who we shouldn't fear.

Why? Why did you do any of it? What sense does any of it make from the perspective of a townie trying to find the Troupe?

Refer to what I said above.

You probably have your post count per page higher than me, before you go saying I'm 'exaggerating timelines'. It didn't start on this page for me.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:The only reason I brought it up again is because you asked me and that was my specific answer to that question.
Incredibly specific. I asked if you thought he was bad and you said "No, I think he's Ishmael". Then you went on to post further and call posts he made 'damning'.

How can anything pointing to him being Ishmael be "damning"? That's why I think you are shifting attention.
If you ask me if that's what I think, I'm going to tell you what I think. That's just a no brainer. I went further because your night kill survival opened up a new train of thought and I decided to pursue it.

If you don't agree with the word 'damning', read his posts and tell me why you disagree. There threat Ishmael poses is insignificant compared to the baddies, yet he came in with a clearly anti-Ishmael agenda, even instructing the baddies to seek him out and kill him. I'd say that's pretty strong distancing.
Why does someone need to distance from their own role? Why wouldn't the real Ishmael ideally want to minimise the threat that can be caused by their role? Doesn't it make more sense for Ishmael to be someone who talked about how little of a threat they were?

I disagree with the word 'damning' because Ishmael is no threat to the town. Are you suggesting we need to deal with Ishmael at some point?
The Syndicate has a 'lynch rogues if all else fails' philosophy that I've pretty often since I joined. It's no surprise that indies would want to distance themselves from their roles.

And I'm not suggesting we lynch him at all. I'm using damning to illustrate that I think I have a strong case.

linki: You're arguing semantics.
My car comment is semantics? How?

I thought it was blatantly obvious that when I said 'steering the direction of the thread' I was referring to your thinking that I'm 'shifting attention'

Golden wrote:You're putting out pre-emptive defences against me, trying to build up what you aren't because you're not sure where I'm going to come at you from. It's all discrediting. Most of what I've seen from you in the last two pages is about discrediting. Discrediting sig, discrediting me... it's not 'here are the baddies', its 'don't listen to these guys', and I don't like it.

You started it. You completely misrepresented my sig case, and that's why we're here now. Don't stick my name on this and fling mud at me for it. You're just as, if not more responsible.

On top of that, you're exaggerating the timelines. This debacle only started on this page. Everything else between us was part of a regular discussion.

And you're completely right that I don't know where you're going to come at me from, because I think you're being completely disingenuous right now.

Golden wrote:I think you're doing the exact opposite. Trying to avoid having much impact on who is chosen for a lynch, or on having any strong opinions on who troupe members might be.

You're too busy arguing why sig could be Troupe even though you think he isn't, for example. Why should this be seen as townie? What's the function of it from a civilian mindset? All it does is cast doubt on someone who we have every reason to trust...

If you don't want me to talk about sig, don't ask me about sig. Problem solved.

I'm not on the sidelines, bud. I'm putting it all out there.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:The only reason I brought it up again is because you asked me and that was my specific answer to that question.
Incredibly specific. I asked if you thought he was bad and you said "No, I think he's Ishmael". Then you went on to post further and call posts he made 'damning'.

How can anything pointing to him being Ishmael be "damning"? That's why I think you are shifting attention.
If you ask me if that's what I think, I'm going to tell you what I think. That's just a no brainer. I went further because your night kill survival opened up a new train of thought and I decided to pursue it.

If you don't agree with the word 'damning', read his posts and tell me why you disagree. There threat Ishmael poses is insignificant compared to the baddies, yet he came in with a clearly anti-Ishmael agenda, even instructing the baddies to seek him out and kill him. I'd say that's pretty strong distancing.
Why does someone need to distance from their own role? Why wouldn't the real Ishmael ideally want to minimise the threat that can be caused by their role? Doesn't it make more sense for Ishmael to be someone who talked about how little of a threat they were?

I disagree with the word 'damning' because Ishmael is no threat to the town. Are you suggesting we need to deal with Ishmael at some point?

The Syndicate has a 'lynch rogues if all else fails' philosophy that I've pretty often since I joined. It's no surprise that indies would want to distance themselves from their roles.

And I'm not suggesting we lynch him at all. I'm using damning to illustrate that I think I have a strong case.

linki: You're arguing semantics.

I think you're trying to evoke this degree of elaboration out of me so you can push your argument that I'm steering the direction of the thread, Golden. Na-uh.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:The only reason I brought it up again is because you asked me and that was my specific answer to that question.
Incredibly specific. I asked if you thought he was bad and you said "No, I think he's Ishmael". Then you went on to post further and call posts he made 'damning'.

How can anything pointing to him being Ishmael be "damning"? That's why I think you are shifting attention.

If you ask me if that's what I think, I'm going to tell you what I think. That's just a no brainer. I went further because your night kill survival opened up a new train of thought and I decided to pursue it.

If you don't agree with the word 'damning', read his posts and tell me why you disagree. There threat Ishmael poses is insignificant compared to the baddies, yet he came in with a clearly anti-Ishmael agenda, even instructing the baddies to seek him out and kill him. I'd say that's pretty strong distancing.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:If you HAD to vote for Dom or Sorsha, who would it be?
Me? Doesn't matter to me. I'm fine either way.

MP is bad.

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sig wrote:I dislike how he voted for DDL three days in a row, including day 2. This is slightly scummy to me.

Insistent voting and ignoring major wagons is my thing. You shouldn't try to read me based on that, because it's a personal approach to mafia, not an alignment indicative strategy.

But you'll try do it anyway

I'll catch up now.

Golden wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:I don't care if Sig is Ishmael. Not today, anyhow.
Neither should quin. I think he's just shifting attention.

Besides, his theory is all based on me and mp being on Ishmael team, and so there are at least three people who know quin is dead wrong.

Well ain't this the biggest misrepresentation I've seen today.

First off, I'm not shifting attention. I intentionally stopped pushing my sig is Ishmael agenda a long time ago, because he doesn't matter in the wider scheme of things if I'm correct.. The only reason I brought it up again is because you asked me and that was my specific answer to that question.

Secondly, my theory has absolutely nothing to do with either you or MP. My theory is based on sig's survival and my narrowing it down to 3 responsible roles, and his anti-Ishmael agenda which he made a strong point about as soon as he checked in. You or MP would be good candidates to be recruited. That is literally all I said.

Got a little bit more stuff to do, so I'll come and catch up properly after dinner.

Then again, you survived a night kill too, so maybe Violet's just gotten pretty lucky.

sig's anti-Ishmael string of posts from the moment he checked in are damning though, imo.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.
Yes there is. We still don't know why Glorfindel subbed out or the conversations he may have had with his team about it. He could have told his team to bus him for the civ cred towards the beginning of the game.
The fact that he was replaced anyway does counter that theory to a degree, but there's no good reason to think that both couldn't have happened.
No team in their right mind would ever say 'yes' to this.

If Glorf comes in to my team and asks to be bussed day one, I tell him 'ask for a replacement, we are not bussing you'. What a waste of a limited resource that would be. Especially in a game where you only get a kill once every second day.
It got sig a pretty strong town read from you, so if that's the case then it's not such a bad strategy after all. I did almost the same thing when I subbed into Mad Max in the early game.
And sig nearly got murdered by the Guardians...

We only ever lynched one member of the Guardians. The rest were nightkilled. This is the math you are playing with here. There's no room for bussing needlessly.

You say there is 'no good reason' to think it didn't happen. There are plenty of good reasons to think it didn't happen. As I say, sig's behaviour has nothing in common with a normal bus. You are suggesting there's no reason to suggest you wouldn't bus a teammate because they asked for it.

Do you actually think this is what happened?

No, I think sig is Ishmael. But the possibility that that's what happened is most definitely there.

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.
Yes there is. We still don't know why Glorfindel subbed out or the conversations he may have had with his team about it. He could have told his team to bus him for the civ cred towards the beginning of the game.
The fact that he was replaced anyway does counter that theory to a degree, but there's no good reason to think that both couldn't have happened.

@Dom - I'm packing. Going away for a few days, so I've got to get stuff done. Not that I was actually lying low in the first place.
who bad then

Not Jack, DDL, sig or LC.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.
Yes there is. We still don't know why Glorfindel subbed out or the conversations he may have had with his team about it. He could have told his team to bus him for the civ cred towards the beginning of the game.
The fact that he was replaced anyway does counter that theory to a degree, but there's no good reason to think that both couldn't have happened.
No team in their right mind would ever say 'yes' to this.

If Glorf comes in to my team and asks to be bussed day one, I tell him 'ask for a replacement, we are not bussing you'. What a waste of a limited resource that would be. Especially in a game where you only get a kill once every second day.

It got sig a pretty strong town read from you, so if that's the case then it's not such a bad strategy after all. I did almost the same thing when I subbed into Mad Max in the early game.

Golden wrote:Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.

Yes there is. We still don't know why Glorfindel subbed out or the conversations he may have had with his team about it. He could have told his team to bus him for the civ cred towards the beginning of the game.
The fact that he was replaced anyway does counter that theory to a degree, but there's no good reason to think that both couldn't have happened.

@Dom - I'm packing. Going away for a few days, so I've got to get stuff done. Not that I was actually lying low in the first place.

DFaraday wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey DF, who killed Scotty on Night 1?
I should have mentioned that. It was the Troupe.
I asked because the Night 2 post said that Esme killed soup. Can we learn which of the Troupe killed Scotty?

Additionally, I would like to visit Dr. Orwell.

All Guardian kills are written as Esme carrying out the kill. All Troupe kills are written as Olaf carrying out the kill (though he wasn't mentioned in the Daily Punctilio piece).

Okay, never mind.

I have a theory that Olaf is the last member of the Troupe.

Given LC's assumptions that Dom was Olaf and flipped as the seemer lie detector, if Olaf had living teammates I think it would be a better strategy to have them kill every night instead of him. That way that argument that he was dead still holds water and it's more difficult to look for teammates. Either Olaf didn't think of that, or everyone else on his team is dead.

linki: No, read my follow up post.

His concern about being lynched does lead me to believe that might be the case, though.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:Long Con (Debating the benefits of leaving him alive, if he's bad the only way we can get rid of him is to lynch him, but if his civ, he's free to supatown to the end.)
So you believe LC got the bowl?

I thought that was what you said earlier. I skimmed in my catch up.

Here for today and then I'm going on a trip with my family for two days so it's possible I won't be able to check in. I don't know what their internet connection is like there.

Here's the list of people I won't vote today:

Jack & DDL (Mechanically cleared of being bad)
sig (Still confident that he's Ishmael, not concerned)
Long Con (Debating the benefits of leaving him alive, if he's bad the only way we can get rid of him is to lynch him, but if his civ, he's free to supatown to the end.)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Does anyone have a good reason to believe Dom is a civilian?

Does anyone have a good reason to believe Quin is a civilian?
Does anyone have a good reason to believe epi is a civilian?

Does anyone have a good reason to believe that eloh is civilian?
I thought I did but confidence is fast eroding. Feels like Epi starts with conclusions like "Eloh is town" or "Quin and MarDom are scumbuddies" and then backs into the conclusions, making poor assumptions like "the scum wouldn't post restrict themselves so Eloh can't be on that scum team" or "Dom 1 lie detected Quin even though there were no useful lie detect posts prior to Day 1 and then Dom was MIA all of Night 2."

Additionally, his attacks on Quin and Golden do not ring true to me and he put forth the argument that ultimately got Snow Dog lynched.

(Epi will likely argue semantics about all of this but I'm not gonna play that game. I'm busy playing a different one.)

Eloh? No. No reason so far for me to believe she is town.
^No, I have no reason to think Eloh is town.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Top suspects:
Epi (Golden is my spirit poster, obv buddies with Eloh, framing and reframing but he can't change what actually happened, distancing, gets rude/vague when losing arguments)

Eloh (obv buddies w/Epi, lots of nonsensical "Oh, me and Epi wouldn't do that if we are scum so therefore we aren't" and suspected by most the players I trust)

MM (Sig's case looks decent....but the follow up lynch is potentially me and I'm not teamed with the marmot. In fact, if MM is a Trouper, I can't be on his team, along with DDL and INH. Anyway, I feel an Epi/Eloh lynch tells us more and I suspect them more and their scum team would theoretically have more members left alive. If Epi and Eloh are dead tomorrow or one flips not mafia, I'm happy to string up MM next.)

Want more from Sorsha but she doesn't make the list yet.
^Eloh is one of my three strongest scum reads.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:I love how Eloh's defense is all like "I'm not scummy like you think cause I'm good at mafia, now."

Like congrats but I still think you're bad.
^I call Eloh's defense as not convincing at all

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:PS, Eloh, I think Dom is exactly the same kinda crazy he was the first time.

That's the main reason I'm not following you/whoever else accused him. He may not be taking more than 5% responsibility and he may not be doing a ton to help the town (at least not yet) but I think he's a good guy.

Because of his consistency. That you say he lacks.
^I side with Dom against Eloh and give him a town read.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
sig wrote: I'll read him over first.
Excellent idea.

Anyone want to propose a reason to lynch Eloh over Epi or Epi over Eloh?

I feel Epi has been more intellectually dishonest and obvious about defending/distancing from Eloh and of course there's the Snow Dog lynch (that I don't entirely blame Epi for cause Snow wasn't helping his own case much) while Eloh has generally contributed less and feels more like attempting to buddy certain players.

My general feeling is that it is more likely that Epi is scum and Eloh is town than vice versa but I could be convinced otherwise.
^Literally my only post that could possibly in some universe be construed as pro-Eloh. Nobody answered this question. Nobody attempted to get me to vote Eloh over Epi and I never tried to sway anyone to vote Epi over Eloh. A bunch of other players (Quin, Golden) did come on with sudden changes of heart about Epi for reasons that were not expressed but thats not what I asked for.

At the end of the day, I voted one of the two players I suspected most, who I suspect to be on a team. No matter which was lynched, my intention (expressed multiple times) has been to follow up with a lynch on the other.

Nothing has changed.

I didn't have a change of heart about Epi, I've always felt that Eloh looked worse than he did.

Hell, what if Dom never got a result in the first place? The VFD can role block.

Long Con wrote:
Golden wrote:Sprit's baddie team. I can't see Dom being on Elos team based on how Elo treated him, therefore I don't think Dom is guardian.
Ok, then it's not "sprit's old team", that's confusing. I still think you were confused about sprit's past in that post, but that's fine, things are cleared up now. I never thought Dom was Guardian either.

My theory is that Dom wasn't the information role he appeared as, and was Count Olaf appearing as that role, and replaced back into his baddie team. And it's not because I'm Josephine in case anyone is thinking of marking that on their spreadsheets or killing me for it or something. It's just the only thing that makes sense to me, otherwise, the Host would have had to give us something to balance out the fact that Dom knew stuff the rest of us didn't.

Actually, I just thought of another way... Josephine checked a Troupe member the first night, and missed the second night, and rejoined as Troupe.

What if Josephine Dom never sent in a night action, or never got an actionable result? We've established that he wasn't here to do that from Days 2-lynch.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't think anyone should be eliminated from consideration based on some curse power that a mafia team used anyway. I think that's weaksauce as fuck.

This. I'm not sure why people have come to the assumption that the VP is a full-on curser, but all I'm getting from it so far is that Nero can fuck with our posts a little. They're still easily understandable.

Voted Eloh. I've already said why.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also Quin, what is your GTH read on me? I noticed you stopped talking about me for some reason.

I'd still say you're bad. I'm choosing to back off from arguing with you to just observe how you carry yourself for now, because the former isn't helping me read you. I've still been talking about you though. Just not directly at you.

Gotta go out. Don't let this cult thing dominate the discussion, okie?

Golden wrote:Ishmael should recruit me tbqh.

But if sig is Ishmael, I ain't on his team. At this point.

This post makes me think otherwise:

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Mr. Poe is on fire.
He made a good choice today I think! That takes care of that one.
I'd like your insight on my thoughts about sig, if you have time.
Just did so! I agree with your assessment that there is no reason to assume he isn't Indy, but if so he seems to be trying to help the town.

You were trying to set me at ease, weren't you Golden?

sig wrote:
Quin wrote:But to seriously answer you MP, I've got sig nice and comfortable on my list as Ishmael. And I don't doubt that sig would be interested in recruiting difficult lynches like yourself (in this game anyway) and Golden.

linki:
Ishmael never recruited me so I want him dead, after Esme and her crew, but before Olaf and his gang.

@MP Why quin? I've been low key thinking he was scum, but never really pursued it.

@DDL What do you think of my MM case? @EPI same to you.

I've explained my reasoning to place you in one of three indy roles (or a Violet-given vest). But the first thing you talked about after checking in was a discussion about how much of a threat Ishmael is and how important it is to kill him. I could pull all 5/6 posts, but they all seemed out of place. So I don't think Ishmael recruited you, I think you are Ishmael.

And this is the first I'm hearing of you suspecting me. Only two days ago you said you thought that my argument with DDL was civ/civ. What changed?

I think you just want me dead because I've outted you, sig. But I have no intention of lynching someone who can win with town, so you can drop it.

Going out soon, so I've gotta go get ready. I'll be back soon.

But to seriously answer you MP, I've got sig nice and comfortable on my list as Ishmael. And I don't doubt that sig would be interested in recruiting difficult lynches like yourself (in this game anyway) and Golden.

linki:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.

linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely
I would say you're probably bad.
You need to say better things.
Like what?

Know any limericks?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Ok screw that, I'm skipping the rest of Day 4/Night 4. This is a game, not a job, and I won't lose sleep today because of it.

Starting on Day 5.

What are your thoughts on Epi and Eloh?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.

linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely
I would say you're probably bad.

You need to say better things.

I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.

linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:But seriously, I just finished a Day 0 to Night 1 and only found posts that could be lie detected if Quin was partners with Snow or DDL and DFarady was feeling nice.

Stuff like "I think Snow's partner could be DDL."

Knowing Snow was not scum buddies with Quin, Quin can only be a LIE DETECTED scummer if DDL is his partner.

If DDL and Quin have been scum buddies this whole game, I will eat a walrus.

Pretty sure most people know where I stand when it comes to bringing personal beef into a game as a scum strategy. I feel like it's emotional manipulation and I'll never do it intentionally. Whether you believe it or not, or want to call it WIFOM or distancing or whatever, my briefly turned-personal beef with DDL a few days ago is proof that DDL is not my teammate.

I was lying about the second-to-last one.

Epignosis wrote:I'm going to bed.

I can already see that I'm voting one of Dom or Quin coming up. I don't see how both of them are civilians.

Your assumption is that Dom's change of opinion of me is because we are now on the same baddie team, and that Dom is pretending that he didn't lie detect me to cover for me.

Yet for perhaps the fourth or fifth time now you've neglected to pursue the end of finding a check able post that would actually support your argument.

Epignosis wrote:Does anyone have a good reason to believe Quin is a civilian?

I've got a few.

This is a great game for metaphors.

Epignosis wrote:Lie detector Dom:

Dom wrote:NO ONE thinks it's weird that i didn't post for four fucking days?

No one?!

Look at who led you here.

Look at Quin for not voting me. He's trying to avoid looking bad.

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:this is the biggest load of bullshit
Hey, at least I'm on your side
No you're not.
New Dom:

Elo
1
Dom (7)
14%

Make a point.

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dom

Suppose a townie sees what they think is a 13 vote train on a fellow townie. What is the proper action to take?

Should they vote for the townie, elsewhere or nowhere?
If they think someone is a townie then they should not vote for them and actively try and flip those votes.
Not just tell that townie at the end that they are that townie's "friend".

I literally posted in this game that I was ill again. I gave my reason for not being here. I don't have the time or energy to read from page 24 onward. That's the point where I had last read. So, now, seeing people say that they were my "friend" etc... yeah that rings rather false to me. If Quin actively defended me, can you point me out to where? I don't think he did. I think he washed his hands of my blood by conveniently voting elsewhere. My goose was cooked by evil people. Remember that.
I never said I thought you were town. You said it yourself, you weren't here to defend yourself, so how do you expect me to form a civ read on you and go out of my way to defend you for that?

I suspected DDL, not you. I voted DDL, not you. You were almost completely irrelevant to my thought process during that day.
That is not why I suspect you.
This is why jackofhearts wants people to think I suspect you.
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:That's not my beef with Quin.
I despised the way he tried to be my "friend" at the end of day. I have repeated myself several times on this. You are the one making it about Quin's vote. Don't sip tea while you misrepresent my suspicion.
If this is your beef, then I don't know what to tell you. It was quite blatantly a joke.
And those candy jokes matter.
Why do they matter? Was I buddying a dead guy?
You were buttering up a mindless herd of civs to the idea that you had nothing to do with the mislynch of the LD.

Quin wrote:I'd like more people's input on my thoughts about sig after his lynch survival, if anyone's around.
sig hinted he would survive an nk before teh night post.

I did have nothing to do with the lynch of the lie detector. But your role doesn't matter, because I didn't know it until you flipped.

Quin wrote:I'd like more people's input on my thoughts about sig after his night kill survival, if anyone's around.

ebwop

I'd like more people's input on my thoughts about sig after his lynch survival, if anyone's around.

Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dom

Suppose a townie sees what they think is a 13 vote train on a fellow townie. What is the proper action to take?

Should they vote for the townie, elsewhere or nowhere?
If they think someone is a townie then they should not vote for them and actively try and flip those votes.
Not just tell that townie at the end that they are that townie's "friend".

I literally posted in this game that I was ill again. I gave my reason for not being here. I don't have the time or energy to read from page 24 onward. That's the point where I had last read. So, now, seeing people say that they were my "friend" etc... yeah that rings rather false to me. If Quin actively defended me, can you point me out to where? I don't think he did. I think he washed his hands of my blood by conveniently voting elsewhere. My goose was cooked by evil people. Remember that.
I never said I thought you were town. You said it yourself, you weren't here to defend yourself, so how do you expect me to form a civ read on you and go out of my way to defend you for that?

I suspected DDL, not you. I voted DDL, not you. You were almost completely irrelevant to my thought process during that day.
That is not why I suspect you.
This is why jackofhearts wants people to think I suspect you.
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:That's not my beef with Quin.
I despised the way he tried to be my "friend" at the end of day. I have repeated myself several times on this. You are the one making it about Quin's vote. Don't sip tea while you misrepresent my suspicion.
If this is your beef, then I don't know what to tell you. It was quite blatantly a joke.
And those candy jokes matter.

Why do they matter? Was I buddying a dead guy?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dom

So I'm gonna take your non response to mean "I still have no idea why I was lynched and I'm just making up shit on the fly cause it's easier than admitting that I don't know what's going on."

Let me recap a bit to help you out. Here's a recent exchange.

Dom: Quin is bad cause of how he reacted to my lynch train on Day 3.

Jack: What would you have done in his place as a townie?

Dom: A real townie would have tried to not get me lynched.

Jack: That would have been mathematically impossible.

Dom: Yeah, well, Quin is bad anyway.

K. Opinion noted.

I don't think this is an accurate representation of Dom's thought process. I agree with him that if someone is town-reading someone who's on the chopping block, in most cases they should go out of their way to defend them. But Dom is incorrectly assuming that my reason for voting off his wagon is because I town read him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Going to go on to DDL now... see you guys sometime tomorrow, I'm sure he has posted a lot as per his usual.

Nacho: That was no my point. My point was I think Elo knows that and is trying to buddy him by seeking out and sheeping his opinions. I actually am civ reading Epi and have been since the start.
That was the one day phase where I didn't post at all.

I take it that that post alarms you?

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