The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Theory:

Three similar supportive civilian roles. They are balanced in that they don't always work -- see: paranoid/insane/naive cops. Doctors have similar variants. Quin is one such variant. His shit didn't work because he's a wack ass doctor.

juliets wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

juliets wrote:

Sloonei wrote:The thing that gives Quin an advantage over Jack in my eyes is that Quin has been unafraid to get right in the middle of things all game long. He's repeatedly thrust himself into the spotlight and been comfortable there. Jackofhearts has been around, but I can't say that he's been as directly involved in as many things as Quin.

I also have begun to feel increasingly good that at least one of Long Con and Juliets is bad, and I've seen no reason why they can't both be. The radio silence across the board (from everyone, not just those two) since shortly after I exposed my gun has been intriguing. We've had a lot of names lurking at the bottom of the page and most of them are silent. Speak up, anyone!

I am here. I am listening to what everyone has to say and will have revised reads in the morning.

I also want to ask what the probability is that there is are two doctor roles.

The only way I can see there being two doctors is if one targets on even-nights and the other on odd. I would not bet on it though.

Do you have no immediate thoughts to share right now on any of the stuff that's going on?

Yes, I do. I was waiting on clarification from the host on something which I now have and given the answer to your question, I do not believe Quin is telling the truth. I am not claiming doctor.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Note about Quin: I gave him a big, warm and fuzzy town read out of nowhere. In response he posted a couple retorts to Jack and poofed. Jack is still providing reads and doing things.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Quin

Explain the timeline.

You said you had info you planned to give. I took that to mean "I am the doctor and I targeted Nutella." Then you said you didn't plan to claim.

So which is it?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:Jack cares more about arguing why my decision was stupid than he does about arguing why it was a scum move.

A total misrepresentation.

Either you're town and made a mistake or you're scum and told a lie.

You said it yourself that you came in planning to claim doctor. Then, when pressured a bit by one person, you claimed doctor. Now you say it was done badly?

I think it is more likely to wanted to claim doctor because you are scum and you thought it would make you look good.

You've been inconsistent in your claim (was it planned or a response to pressure? It has something to do with your read on Nut so that you could accuse me of fishing and tell JJJ to back off...but you can't remember what?).

I'm not focused on you being stupid. I don't think you're stupid. I think you're bad.




@Jimmy

I'm not going to discuss my role further. You can speculate if you like but I'm afraid my input will give things away, which I do not think is in the town's best interest.

I literally just said the opposite of this.

Claiming doctor is a stupid role to fake claim.

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

Was it a plan or not, Quin?

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Claiming doctor is a stupid role to fake claim.

Why?

I'm done playing 20 questions.

linki: Very low.

You know I'm only trying to work this out for the best, right? What's the harm in helping me do that?

I've been the focus of conversation for the past 24 hours. My claim was literally an attempt to get people to move on. The fact that I've now set myself up for a night kill and I'm still the center of attention is pissing me off to no end. At this rate you're going to talk about nothing but me until EoD, lynch a civ, and then another tonight, and just basically waste a day.

Someone's definitely getting shot before the lynch.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Claiming doctor is a stupid role to fake claim.

Why?

I'm done playing 20 questions.

linki: Very low.

You know I'm only trying to work this out for the best, right? What's the harm in helping me do that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Claiming doctor is a stupid role to fake claim.

Why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:Jack cares more about arguing why my decision was stupid than he does about arguing why it was a scum move.

A total misrepresentation.

Either you're town and made a mistake or you're scum and told a lie.

You said it yourself that you came in planning to claim doctor. Then, when pressured a bit by one person, you claimed doctor. Now you say it was done badly?

I think it is more likely to wanted to claim doctor because you are scum and you thought it would make you look good.

You've been inconsistent in your claim (was it planned or a response to pressure? It has something to do with your read on Nut so that you could accuse me of fishing and tell JJJ to back off...but you can't remember what?).

I'm not focused on you being stupid. I don't think you're stupid. I think you're bad.




@Jimmy

I'm not going to discuss my role further. You can speculate if you like but I'm afraid my input will give things away, which I do not think is in the town's best interest.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please describe what led to your decision to protect Silver Lantern on Night 1.

I didn't have many town reads, but he was one of them. Read my posts as an answer to the follow-up I know you're dying to ask me.

What is your read on Jack?

I am voting for him.

Why?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 6&sr=posts

Summarize it for me.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please describe what led to your decision to protect Silver Lantern on Night 1.

I didn't have many town reads, but he was one of them. Read my posts as an answer to the follow-up I know you're dying to ask me.

What is your read on Jack?

I am voting for him.

Why?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please describe what led to your decision to protect Silver Lantern on Night 1.

I didn't have many town reads, but he was one of them. Read my posts as an answer to the follow-up I know you're dying to ask me.

What is your read on Jack?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please describe what led to your decision to protect Silver Lantern on Night 1.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please explain in vivid and thorough detail the thoughts in your head that led you to claim your role when you did. This is an essay question.

I did things in the stupidest way possible, got angry at the position I put myself in, and went away for a while. I came back to the thread with what appears to be, yet again, a very stupid decision thinking it'd rightfully get people off my back.

Tell me more about what you feel you did in the stupidest way possible. That's what I don't follow.

'I don't remember', which is true, but not being believed pissed me off so I got apathetic and wound up dismissing things.

Do you concede that "I don't remember" is a very unconvincing defense which you've now used twice today?

Convincing or not, it's the truth.

Was your initial plan to roleclaim today?

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please explain in vivid and thorough detail the thoughts in your head that led you to claim your role when you did. This is an essay question.

I did things in the stupidest way possible, got angry at the position I put myself in, and went away for a while. I came back to the thread with what appears to be, yet again, a very stupid decision thinking it'd rightfully get people off my back.

Tell me more about what you feel you did in the stupidest way possible. That's what I don't follow.

'I don't remember', which is true, but not being believed pissed me off so I got apathetic and wound up dismissing things.

Do you concede that "I don't remember" is a very unconvincing defense which you've now used twice today?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please explain in vivid and thorough detail the thoughts in your head that led you to claim your role when you did. This is an essay question.

I did things in the stupidest way possible, got angry at the position I put myself in, and went away for a while. I came back to the thread with what appears to be, yet again, a very stupid decision thinking it'd rightfully get people off my back.

Tell me more about what you feel you did in the stupidest way possible. That's what I don't follow.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please explain in vivid and thorough detail the thoughts in your head that led you to claim your role when you did. This is an essay question.

I did things in the stupidest way possible, got angry at the position I put myself in, and went away for a while. I came back to the thread with what appears to be, yet again, a very stupid decision thinking it'd rightfully get people off my back.


linki: No. You said that I would have been the one choosing the kill target. Why?

That you was in the second person plural, not singular. Scum Quin would be complicit in whichever kill target the mafia team selects.
What is the benefit of questioning me on this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, please explain in vivid and thorough detail the thoughts in your head that led you to claim your role when you did. This is an essay question.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Let's talk about Quin's role claim. He is an odd night doctor. Nutella was a 1-shot day cop, Jay is s 3-shot tracker, so the limiting "odd night" dynamic isn't unfathomable and also leaves the door open for other protective roles to exist. But it is also unverified and "bad guy claiming doctor to scare townies away from voting" is a pretty straightforward scum move.

JOH seems to be soft-claiming one of his five proposed roles, one of which we know can't exist (cult), and a couple others which may or may not even exist in sprityo's mafia experience. Solving a problem like this is particularly difficult in this game, given that most of us aren't sure what roles sprityo migh have used or drawn from. Speedchuck may be able to help us out with some of that speculation, possibly.

Champing it up rn, but saw this.

Question for you:

I come into the thread on Day 4 (prior to saying any of the stuff that got me here) to say 'intriguing'. Do I say that for no reason? From a perspective of a civilian who didn't know any of this, they should think 'why?' and come to the conclusion that I have information of some kind. Do I say that so that I can then get myself involved in this mess just so I can bring it up now?

In the universe where you are bad, you came into today with the plan of claiming to be an odd-night doctor from the start. This was all premeditated.
Have you seen my announcement about having a gun? I have a gun.

Put it back in your pants. I'm a good guy.

To think that I premeditated the nutella thing just so I could claim doctor is absurd.

Why is that? You would have been the one choosing the kill target and you could easily have made up a bogus claim about protecting anyone who died.

Fredwood wrote:He didn't say anything about having pants

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Let's talk about Quin's role claim. He is an odd night doctor. Nutella was a 1-shot day cop, Jay is s 3-shot tracker, so the limiting "odd night" dynamic isn't unfathomable and also leaves the door open for other protective roles to exist. But it is also unverified and "bad guy claiming doctor to scare townies away from voting" is a pretty straightforward scum move.

JOH seems to be soft-claiming one of his five proposed roles, one of which we know can't exist (cult), and a couple others which may or may not even exist in sprityo's mafia experience. Solving a problem like this is particularly difficult in this game, given that most of us aren't sure what roles sprityo migh have used or drawn from. Speedchuck may be able to help us out with some of that speculation, possibly.

Champing it up rn, but saw this.

Question for you:

I come into the thread on Day 4 (prior to saying any of the stuff that got me here) to say 'intriguing'. Do I say that for no reason? From a perspective of a civilian who didn't know any of this, they should think 'why?' and come to the conclusion that I have information of some kind. Do I say that so that I can then get myself involved in this mess just so I can bring it up now?

In the universe where you are bad, you came into today with the plan of claiming to be an odd-night doctor from the start. This was all premeditated.
Have you seen my announcement about having a gun? I have a gun.

Sloonei wrote:Let's talk about Quin's role claim. He is an odd night doctor. Nutella was a 1-shot day cop, Jay is s 3-shot tracker, so the limiting "odd night" dynamic isn't unfathomable and also leaves the door open for other protective roles to exist. But it is also unverified and "bad guy claiming doctor to scare townies away from voting" is a pretty straightforward scum move.

JOH seems to be soft-claiming one of his five proposed roles, one of which we know can't exist (cult), and a couple others which may or may not even exist in sprityo's mafia experience. Solving a problem like this is particularly difficult in this game, given that most of us aren't sure what roles sprityo migh have used or drawn from. Speedchuck may be able to help us out with some of that speculation, possibly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

Please explain why you came into the day wanting to share this information.

Because I wanted to.

Bad answer. Scummy answer.

How do you justify accusing a player of fishing for your role when you decided to claim doctor completely unprovoked?

I never accused you of fishing for my role. Elaborating to your 'Do go on' post would have literally involved claiming my role.

Spoiler: show

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote: I'd rather not.

Then I don't see much reason to remove my vote.

I'm not asking for a power claim. I just don't think you should be able to shut down a fair question with vague references to night results. Especially when whatever caused you to suspect Nut must have been wrong/made up. Like if I made vague references to night abilities while siding with scummers against townies, that shit wouldn't keep me off the chopping block. Not sure why you think you deserve a pass.

The good behavior you had on day 1 (the slip catch and clearheaded evaluation of it) was basically the opposite of your behavior on day 2, where you followed a train of logic that the lynch leader said was weak bullshit. The only other player following it was scum so he didn't believe it either. But you did. Or did you?

You spent all of day three trying to lynch a townie. Your entire rainbow is bass ackwards. You refused to speculate on my potential partners while insisting I have them. You referenced tinfoil as part of your reason for voting me. You thought Sloonei and Nut were bad after they lynched Marmot (who absolutely wouldn't have been lynched if either of them had focused elsewhere).

In my eyes, you haven't done anything to help the town all game. Why should anyone cut you any slack?

1. Yes you are.
2. You just said 20 minutes ago that I either didn't read all her posts, forgot, or am lying. Now you're pushing one. Why?
3. Sided with an indy.
4. I still adamantly believe the case wasn't bullshit. The flow of Day 2 is a perfect reflection of how not-bullshit it was.
5. How do you know this?
6. Completely contradictory to what you said yesterday. You acknowledged that I do not follow that thought process.
7. I asked you twice to point this out. You have answered zero times.
8. I only argued Sloonei was bad.

This is riddled with falsehoods and inconsistencies.

*LYNCH JACK*

^You imply I am scum and state that I AM trying to get a claim out of you despite saying I'm not. That's called fishing. That's you accusing me of fishing.


In regards to my "do tell" post, what part of this exchange is explained by you claiming doctor?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 90#p338990
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 94#p338994
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 08#p339008
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 6&sr=posts
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 22#p339022

Thought you were refusing to explain why you were suspicious of Nutella, softclaiming some type of info gatherer. Your doctor claim was out of left field and had literally nothing to do with what we were discussing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin: what inspired your change of heart in your nutella read? I can't imagine you doctored someone you found suspicious.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

Please explain why you came into the day wanting to share this information.

Because I wanted to.

Bad answer. Scummy answer.

How do you justify accusing a player of fishing for your role when you decided to claim doctor completely unprovoked?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

Please explain why you came into the day wanting to share this information.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@ this Quin post

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 62#p339062

3/4. Nuh uh. The onus is on you to convince me it was legit after the other people arguing for it were revealed to be lying. It wasn't a matter of did not vote for. It was vote for or vote with or vote elsewhere. You voted with. You're twisting to make it seem like you were neutral on Marmot. You were trying to get me to switch to Dizzy right before Marmot's death. Convince me you weren't trying to save your teammate. Show me the legit part of INH's purposefully bad case.

5a. Sloonei is damn near confirmed town because with 5 minutes left to go and linkis flying, he turned a no lynch into a mafia lynch. It would have been the easiest thing to let the day stall. Or to continue town reading Marmot and vote anywhere else. Do you disagree? You were awfully willing to join him yesterday. Cause it's not about catching scum for you, is it?

5b. Dizzy is damn near confirmed town because of their interactions with Marmot. I really doubt they could be w/w.

6. Wrong how?

7. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 71#p339071



Linki
Quin is doctor? Bullshit. This is why vague power hints do nothing to convince me someone is town. Turns out Quin wasn't hinting at all. Or his power just changes based on whatever he thinks will get others to let him off.

Why on earth would a doctor feel the need to claim in this situation? How does it help the town to know Nut was doctored last night? Yet it would be a great thing for the mafia to know who the doctor is. This is a poor move for a townie to make. Give me grief for supposedly fishing and yet you offer up this information unprovoked?

More like "I bet if I claim doctor, the town will be more hesitant to lynch me.

Linki
Fred, I gotta draw the line somewhere. I chose to draw it where there are not significant strong reads (towards you, not from you). In you aren't equal to Eloh but I put your name in the same bucket. Don't be mad. I still think you're doing a good job.

But I do think you're scum.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin makes claim, Jack's lips are zipped.

Fredwood wrote:Though the quin claim is interesting, it at least has me leaning more town on them then the other two.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, did you enjoy any unique benefits or hindrances on Night 1? A yes or no is fine, I don't need details.

No.

Who did you protect?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, did you enjoy any unique benefits or hindrances on Night 1? A yes or no is fine, I don't need details.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:I just did. I'm not lying.

Cool, I dig.

I didn't track you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

That's funny. I tracked you and you targeted someone else.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck me

Well you're going to need to just come clean then. Out with it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Okay.

The problem I've created for myself is that I came into this Day with information I wanted to share and did it in probably the worst way possible. I'm gonna lay it all out on the table instead because why not

nutella should not be dead. I protected her. I protect on odd nights. From that I've concluded either I was role blocked, or the killer has a strongman role.

That's funny. I tracked you and you targeted someone else.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Golden wrote:OK, I may as well say my thought on Quin's entry now.

It seems to me unlikely that Quin genuinely thinks that nutellas is an every day cop, kills nutella, and then proclaims that he thought nutella was an every day cop. I guess Jay's response was, effectively, the wifom - that I'm saying what I'm saying now. But my immediate thought when Quin said 'I thought nutella was an every day cop' was 'motive' - and if a motive is that transparent, it just seems unlikely that he would be so open about it.

Add to that, this quote is ridiculous. And blatant. If it comes from a baddie it is ballsy.

Quin wrote:I would personally recommend you just move on from this conversation, though.

These things look town to me.

I might agree for the majority of non-Quin people. I don't think he has to be evil based upon this stuff, but I won't remove him from candidacy for it either. The quote you reference is also very similar to one I made earlier in the game directed at Quin. "We're done here." People observe and adapt.

I want to see him hunt. That's where my read will develop.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:I'm too angry for this. I'll come back.

Why angry?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote: I'd rather not.

Then I don't see much reason to remove my vote.

I'm not asking for a power claim. I just don't think you should be able to shut down a fair question with vague references to night results. Especially when whatever caused you to suspect Nut must have been wrong/made up. Like if I made vague references to night abilities while siding with scummers against townies, that shit wouldn't keep me off the chopping block. Not sure why you think you deserve a pass.

The good behavior you had on day 1 (the slip catch and clearheaded evaluation of it) was basically the opposite of your behavior on day 2, where you followed a train of logic that the lynch leader said was weak bullshit. The only other player following it was scum so he didn't believe it either. But you did. Or did you?

You spent all of day three trying to lynch a townie. Your entire rainbow is bass ackwards. You refused to speculate on my potential partners while insisting I have them. You referenced tinfoil as part of your reason for voting me. You thought Sloonei and Nut were bad after they lynched Marmot (who absolutely wouldn't have been lynched if either of them had focused elsewhere).

In my eyes, you haven't done anything to help the town all game. Why should anyone cut you any slack?

1. Yes you are.
2. You just said 20 minutes ago that I either didn't read all her posts, forgot, or am lying. Now you're pushing one. Why?
3. Sided with an indy.
4. I still adamantly believe the case wasn't bullshit. The flow of Day 2 is a perfect reflection of how not-bullshit it was.
5. How do you know this?
6. Completely contradictory to what you said yesterday. You acknowledged that I do not follow that thought process.
7. I asked you twice to point this out. You have answered zero times.
8. I only argued Sloonei was bad.

This is riddled with falsehoods and inconsistencies.

*LYNCH JACK*

1. No I'm not. I wouldn't believe you anyway and was giving Speed crap for fishing off Silver. I have no interest in your pretend role card.
ok. Nice to know where you stand on that one.
2. I said you didn't read, forgot or were lying in reference to your belief that Nut was an every night cop. She claimed day cop. Everyone should have known what she was claiming and not assumed another power...unless they didn't read, forgot or were lying. Now, if you're vaguely saying you had role related reason to not believe Nut, that's different. That role related reasoning is wrong or made up.
I thought she had more information than she was claiming to have. It is not a bad idea to claim a less threatening version of a power role to avoid the night kill. It's the same reason I didn't think Jay only had 2 tracker shots. I thought he was a plain tracker. It would be moronic to assume that everything should be taken as gospel.
3. Sided with Marmot, a mafia member.
Did not vote does not equal sided with. Prove why my push on Dys was disingenuous.
4. Man, whatever. Dizzy is clear town. Twice he's pulled this stunt and twice he's picked out one person with a dishonest reaction to it and caught mafia. INH's case was intentionally bad. Don't try to pretend it wasn't. You were looking for any easy mislynch.
Bullshit. There was more to my case than her approach to the slip.
5. Cause you put JJJ, Nut, Sloonei, Dizzy and me all near the bottom of it. Unless JJJ has a cloak, those are all townies. You had INH and Marmot as your top townie reads. You wanna try to justify that rainbow to me? It's bad.
Why is Sloonei a confirmed townie? Why is Dizzy a confirmed townie? Those are your opinions. They might not be bad opinions, but they are nothing more than that.
6. It's still a bad thought process. DDL was town as town could be in Unfortunate Events. So am I in this game.
Wrong on both counts.
7. See previous post.
No. Point it out. Fucking point it out.
8. Well la dee da.
ok.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:I would personally recommend you just move on from this conversation, though.

You heard him, guys.

Quin doesn't want to talk about his scum behavior anymore.

Just leave him alone already, okay?

Vote Quin

Please justify this. The only controversial thing pointed out is that I don't remember why I didn't trust nutella. Why exactly is that scum behaviour?

Answer this too, Jack.

I don't remember.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:I could vote JOH. I didn't like my interactions with him one bit yesterday. 3J pointed out some stuff against him as well which I agreed with.

Giving 3J his civ read. What a beggar

What stuff did JJJ point out about me that you agreed with? I took this to be in reference to the Nacho/Jack/Wigly theory.

Quin wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote:I would personally recommend you just move on from this conversation, though.

You heard him, guys.

Quin doesn't want to talk about his scum behavior anymore.

Just leave him alone already, okay?

Vote Quin

Please justify this. The only controversial thing pointed out is that I don't remember why I didn't trust nutella. Why exactly is that scum behaviour?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Quin wrote: I'd rather not.

Then I don't see much reason to remove my vote.

I'm not asking for a power claim. I just don't think you should be able to shut down a fair question with vague references to night results. Especially when whatever caused you to suspect Nut must have been wrong/made up. Like if I made vague references to night abilities while siding with scummers against townies, that shit wouldn't keep me off the chopping block. Not sure why you think you deserve a pass.

The good behavior you had on day 1 (the slip catch and clearheaded evaluation of it) was basically the opposite of your behavior on day 2, where you followed a train of logic that the lynch leader said was weak bullshit. The only other player following it was scum so he didn't believe it either. But you did. Or did you?

You spent all of day three trying to lynch a townie. Your entire rainbow is bass ackwards. You refused to speculate on my potential partners while insisting I have them. You referenced tinfoil as part of your reason for voting me. You thought Sloonei and Nut were bad after they lynched Marmot (who absolutely wouldn't have been lynched if either of them had focused elsewhere).

In my eyes, you haven't done anything to help the town all game. Why should anyone cut you any slack?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:im gonna take that as a yes k

Take it as a "find baddies or I will employ all of my resources against you and leave you gasping and begging for mercy".