The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:20 pm Has anybody posted a rainbow in here yet?

speedchuck has.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:41 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:15 am I've been less engaged with this game since the merge happened for a handful of RL reasons. I'll come back to it soon, but I've also been feeling a bit complacent since that one day I was in Pikachu. we still have lost more mafia than civilians in this game.
I get that.

I keep wanting to think that you got a red peel or something on Marmot because...well...I’ve said it before but you were so adamant about Marmot, and to pick him out of all the wallflowers in Bidoof 1.0, i honestly just didn’t believe it. But after a full day where you referenced bad Marmot in basically every post, I went with it. And here we are, you’re the king of the mountain, but you just seem...well...meh about it.

But maybe that’s because I stare at your avatar too often and begin to imagine that’s the face that looks back at you when you look in the mirror: salty, expressionless.

It could be worse. You could look like this:

He's paprika. Educate yourself.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:53 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:48 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:51 pm Someone tell me why Sloonei is bad. I don't have a great case for it but my gut tells me it is so.
Well for one he was pretty much single-handedly responsible for lynching marmot, so he must be an Evil Even.
Is there a reason you can't be an Evil Even?

You brought me up in threads I wasn't even a part of. That scares me a little.

Like, this one especially (post-speedchuck outting):

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm I'm counting on you, Quin.
Why single me out?
Because I was counting on you to bring Cerberus to the promised land.

So far we have no evidence of Evil Evens in Cerberus. I was in Pikachu with nutella for about 24 hours before she was escorted away. I'm not an Even.
Also assuming mafia alternates kills then we do have evidence of Evil Evens in Cerberus.
This is true. But we have not identified who that hypothetical person(s) is. My point was just that, as far as evidence toward me not being an Even, all the rest of you have is that I was in the same tribe as nutella for ~24 hours.

Is there any explicit reason why you think I might be bad or is it just vague paranoia?

Paranoia. There are little things I dislike but they don't add up to anything particularly actionable. It's gut and 'I wish Sloonei would've...'s.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:51 pm Someone tell me why Sloonei is bad. I don't have a great case for it but my gut tells me it is so.
Well for one he was pretty much single-handedly responsible for lynching marmot, so he must be an Evil Even.
Is there a reason you can't be an Evil Even?

You brought me up in threads I wasn't even a part of. That scares me a little.

Like, this one especially (post-speedchuck outting):

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm I'm counting on you, Quin.
Why single me out?
Because I was counting on you to bring Cerberus to the promised land.

So far we have no evidence of Evil Evens in Cerberus. I was in Pikachu with nutella for about 24 hours before she was escorted away. I'm not an Even.

Also assuming mafia alternates kills then we do have evidence of Evil Evens in Cerberus.

I know you town read me. But what about the rest of the leftovers from Cerberus 1.0?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:51 pm Someone tell me why Sloonei is bad. I don't have a great case for it but my gut tells me it is so.
Well for one he was pretty much single-handedly responsible for lynching marmot, so he must be an Evil Even.
Is there a reason you can't be an Evil Even?

You brought me up in threads I wasn't even a part of. That scares me a little.

Like, this one especially (post-speedchuck outting):

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm I'm counting on you, Quin.
Why single me out?
Because I was counting on you to bring Cerberus to the promised land.

So far we have no evidence of Evil Evens in Cerberus. I was in Pikachu with nutella for about 24 hours before she was escorted away. I'm not an Even.

Okay, but why me? There were 10 or so other people on the tribe. Was I the only one you trusted?

I don't understand what nutella has to do with it. She wasn't night killed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:51 pm Someone tell me why Sloonei is bad. I don't have a great case for it but my gut tells me it is so.
Well for one he was pretty much single-handedly responsible for lynching marmot, so he must be an Evil Even.

Is there a reason you can't be an Evil Even?

You brought me up in threads I wasn't even a part of. That scares me a little.

Like, this one especially (post-speedchuck outting):

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm I'm counting on you, Quin.

Why single me out?

Someone tell me why Sloonei is bad. I don't have a great case for it but my gut tells me it is so.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:38 pm
“Speedchuck is positively, absolutely, undeniably, unequivocally, indisputably, inarguably, incontestably, incontrovertibly bad and I’ll stake my mafia reputation on it”, said Dharmahelper “or maybe he’s not I dunno”.

“Stop. Think. It's not logical to lynch him” said Quin "and the counter-argument department is closed."

“HE’S BAD MECHANICALLY DON’T YOU GET IT”, yelled sig. “He was bad in FE and in this game the hosts told us he was bad.”

“Did we tell them that?” juliets asked Golden

“Yeah nutella’s role told us”, said DDL.

“He is bad for sure
Even if he’s good for sure
Refrigerator”
Said the site poet SVS.

“I don’t disagree with the consensus that speedchuck is the top suspect”, said Sloonei as he voted Dr. Wilgy.

“I did a thorough analysis and determined that the inverse energy cascade of people’s thoughts coupled with a two-dimensional Navier-Stokes equation shows refraining from lynching speedchuck is not the optimal answer”, said Epignosis as he also voted Dr. Wilgy.

“I like that analysis”, said Dom as he voted speedchuck.

“Epi, I’m ready to eat”, said sprityo somehow mistaking Epi for a waiter “and I’ll have an Occam’s razor please”.

“Vote for Sloonei!” yelled Scotty “he’s a silkworm crying crocodile tears!”

“Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!” screamed INH excitedly.

Day 10 has ended. Speedchuck has been lynched. He was:

You are 59: The Moon (Elemental). Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. If the Sun is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust. When you and the Sun are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Each combined effect may only be triggered once. The Sun's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same element or the same target on consecutive days. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements. You are TOWN. You will win if all anti-town factions are eliminated.

It is now night 10. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in.

can we lynch wilgy pretty please?

i promise i won't take speedchuck off the poll tomorrow. because i can't take speedchuck off the poll tomorrow. because i can't take people off the poll.

Tell me why bob's explanation isn't good enough for you, Dom.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:52 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:09 am Pretend Wilgy and speedchuck didn't exist.

Who is bad and why?
i suspect ddl for the same reasons as i have since like day 2
i suspect scotty for dodging questions
i suspect cbob for only caring about the game when he's going to die
i suspect epignosis for having a solid connection to nutella, continually ignoring questions and then acting offended when i call him out on it, pretending to think questions were rhetorical when they were posted multiple times..... the only reason why i hesitate to say he's bad is that i haven't been night killed.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:17 am Kylemii's interactions regarding Marmot are not convincing. They look phony.
elaborate.

poor cbob is never gonna catch a break is he

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:47 pm There's been several mafia flips.

How about we just start lynching people with fewer than several posts?

That's what I said! With different words and a different meaning.

this is spooky

Or at least I'm assuming that a role exposer would be civ idk

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:55 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:50 pm At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.
Aw, shit.
What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.
Yes you will show town
But you won't *BE* town; wishing
civs dead isn't town

I want a civ to die too. A specific civ that may not exist. What's the difference between me and chuck saying it? Im only conditionally confirmed, after all.

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:39 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:47 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:55 pm This is feeling mean
I will be back to vote and
complete my ten posts
Second of all fuck whoever keeps doing this to SVS
Assuming refrig can’t target himself then quin is the only option for refrig

It's not me. Pinky promise. I like SVS more than enough to not curse her over and over again when she's publicly stated how much she hates it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:10 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:00 pm Either way I still come back to questioning the actual benefit of scum throwing the challenge for viewing permissions.
Marmot helped us win it. I also don't see what benefit there'd be in this given that they could presumably already communicate with each other across the threads.

There is very minimal benefit in it. Especially on our side though we were struggling to figure out what the tribe dynamic was re: lynches and night kills. My question is just about whether scum would put themselves out there to keep us in the dark about that if we were just going to figure it out come merge.

Either way I still come back to questioning the actual benefit of scum throwing the challenge for viewing permissions.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:22 pm I think Sloonei would be a good choice. Mr. Activity is most likely to make the most of the opportunity.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:06 pm I'm about to go snowshoeing for the next 24 hours, so I'll vote Sloonei to get that thread view.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:15 pm Woohoo! Yay prize! Thanks SpaceDaisy for coming in at the end there to seal the win!

I agree that Sloonei should go if not me. I’m fine with that.

Go ahead Sloonei! Can’t wait to hear what hijinx is going on over there.

Sloonei was voted by Marmot. But he was Strex so that doesn't line up the same way that I was thinking it would.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:53 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:53 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 am What I'm trying to say is that if anybody on our side sabotaged the challenge, their only real motivation for that would be that there's a higher chance of scum being sent over from the other tribe than ours. So if Sloonei (or a top townie over there) flip bad, we can look back at this event.

This is all assuming they have BTSC to coordinate this, which I don't see why they wouldn't.
Long Con and nutella did the challenge. Both were bad.

Are you an Evil Even, Sloonei?
For anyone who hasn't looked back at the selection process that sent me over to Pikachu after the challenge, it was over in ~10 minutes and I was not present for it. I had no say in who was chosen, it just happened to be me.
I think Marmot also completed one of the puzzles for us.
What was your standing in the thread at the time?
Consensus townie, leader of men, handsome fella.
Ruh roh.
Do you suspect me?

A little. Right now I'm looking through cerberus to see who voted you to be the observer.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:53 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 am What I'm trying to say is that if anybody on our side sabotaged the challenge, their only real motivation for that would be that there's a higher chance of scum being sent over from the other tribe than ours. So if Sloonei (or a top townie over there) flip bad, we can look back at this event.

This is all assuming they have BTSC to coordinate this, which I don't see why they wouldn't.
Long Con and nutella did the challenge. Both were bad.

Are you an Evil Even, Sloonei?
For anyone who hasn't looked back at the selection process that sent me over to Pikachu after the challenge, it was over in ~10 minutes and I was not present for it. I had no say in who was chosen, it just happened to be me.
I think Marmot also completed one of the puzzles for us.
What was your standing in the thread at the time?
Consensus townie, leader of men, handsome fella.

Ruh roh.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:44 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:41 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:48 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:46 pm I'm not voting speedchuck tomorrow. That's the lazy vote. I already explained why waiting to lynch him is the best option. We have limited information and waiting a not-horribly-long amount of time to see if a bona fide alignment revealer flips is the logical course of action. We're not at LYLO. We can afford it. With every flip that isn't that role, the probability of him being scum increases. No need to rush into a lynch now.

I will not be accepting any counterpoints at this time, thank you. Especially because today isn't Day 10 and we don't need to be talking about speedchuck.
This reasoning is so weird.

We get way more information on one player than we would ever get in most mafia games and your reaction to it is "not enough, need more evidence".

It just doesn't connect.
When everyone bar one or two people is just sitting on the flip as an excuse to lynch, I'm not content. If you think my reasoning is weird, tell me: What do we lose from doing things my way?
Civs.

Then don't lynch a civilian. Next.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:53 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 am What I'm trying to say is that if anybody on our side sabotaged the challenge, their only real motivation for that would be that there's a higher chance of scum being sent over from the other tribe than ours. So if Sloonei (or a top townie over there) flip bad, we can look back at this event.

This is all assuming they have BTSC to coordinate this, which I don't see why they wouldn't.
Long Con and nutella did the challenge. Both were bad.

Are you an Evil Even, Sloonei?
For anyone who hasn't looked back at the selection process that sent me over to Pikachu after the challenge, it was over in ~10 minutes and I was not present for it. I had no say in who was chosen, it just happened to be me.
I think Marmot also completed one of the puzzles for us.

What was your standing in the thread at the time?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:48 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:46 pm I'm not voting speedchuck tomorrow. That's the lazy vote. I already explained why waiting to lynch him is the best option. We have limited information and waiting a not-horribly-long amount of time to see if a bona fide alignment revealer flips is the logical course of action. We're not at LYLO. We can afford it. With every flip that isn't that role, the probability of him being scum increases. No need to rush into a lynch now.

I will not be accepting any counterpoints at this time, thank you. Especially because today isn't Day 10 and we don't need to be talking about speedchuck.
This reasoning is so weird.

We get way more information on one player than we would ever get in most mafia games and your reaction to it is "not enough, need more evidence".

It just doesn't connect.

When everyone bar one or two people is just sitting on the flip as an excuse to lynch, I'm not content. If you think my reasoning is weird, tell me: What do we lose from doing things my way?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:09 pm QUERY: DOES ANYONE THINK THAT PIKACHU TRIBE WAS DEVOID OF STREXCORP SCUM?

Supporting info: The lopsided nightkill record, and sprit being killed right after the button press.

We didn't have a nightkill until Day 6. I think it's possible that it happened because we only had one mafia team to plot against us.

remember how i was all like 'hey let's not just talk about speedchuck' and then proceeded to talk about nothing except speedchuck before falling off the face of the earth? yeah, i did that

i like daisy's stuff on wilgy. i need to re-read epi's stuff on DDL in tribe aubergine since he's adamant that he's good.

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:11 am I am not wielding a pitchfork.

I'm speedchuck's teammate, remember?

To make everything clear, I'm not tinfoiling a town speedchuck right now. I'm just promoting due process.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:03 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:00 am
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:54 pm
Not too long - Day 11 or 12, at the latest. But jumping right into this 'We absolutely without fail or any further consideration must lynch speedchuck' thing sucks.
Is this the only reason why speedchuck could be bad?
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 pm Dom -

I think it's odd that Cecil survived about 8 days or so in Pikachu untouched after I deduced who he was, and then the moment new blood came into the thread and saw that sprit was Cecil, Cecil was killed.

I believe someone who was originally Cerberus but moved to Pikachu killed him because they had a different idea of what Cecil could do or accomplish, or a different view of gossip roles.

Short version - seems too much a coincidence that Cecil dies right after the merge. I don't believe in coincidences like that.
OK.
So... who does that implicate?
DH has something to say about that.
Hey Quin, I recall you being on a tribe with me where most of the first five days of the game were litigations of whether speedchuck was bad or not...

so like...

you pretending to have amnesia or not? Your (and SVS's) entire defense of speedchuck is predicated on the idea that this is the only reason to think he is bad.
It is not.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:00 am IDK It just seemed odd that they waited so long and then right when the merge happened, boom, down goes Cecil.
Super.
You were there-- who might have done it?

And you asked me about that before. I told you I believed speedchuck 1.0 to be town and hadn't changed my opinion in his second life.

My 'defense' is not a defense. It's a call for the civilians to actually think about things. DH is the only one mentioning prior reasons to suspect him. Everyone else is just wielding their pitchforks. That's not on. speedchuck simply doesn't need to die yet.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:54 pm
Not too long - Day 11 or 12, at the latest. But jumping right into this 'We absolutely without fail or any further consideration must lynch speedchuck' thing sucks.
Is this the only reason why speedchuck could be bad?
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 pm Dom -

I think it's odd that Cecil survived about 8 days or so in Pikachu untouched after I deduced who he was, and then the moment new blood came into the thread and saw that sprit was Cecil, Cecil was killed.

I believe someone who was originally Cerberus but moved to Pikachu killed him because they had a different idea of what Cecil could do or accomplish, or a different view of gossip roles.

Short version - seems too much a coincidence that Cecil dies right after the merge. I don't believe in coincidences like that.
OK.
So... who does that implicate?

DH has something to say about that.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 pm Dom -

I think it's odd that Cecil survived about 8 days or so in Pikachu untouched after I deduced who he was, and then the moment new blood came into the thread and saw that sprit was Cecil, Cecil was killed.

I believe someone who was originally Cerberus but moved to Pikachu killed him because they had a different idea of what Cecil could do or accomplish, or a different view of gossip roles.

Short version - seems too much a coincidence that Cecil dies right after the merge. I don't believe in coincidences like that.

Are scum not going to communicate townfirms to eachother in BTSC?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 pm Dom -

I think it's odd that Cecil survived about 8 days or so in Pikachu untouched after I deduced who he was, and then the moment new blood came into the thread and saw that sprit was Cecil, Cecil was killed.

I believe someone who was originally Cerberus but moved to Pikachu killed him because they had a different idea of what Cecil could do or accomplish, or a different view of gossip roles.

Short version - seems too much a coincidence that Cecil dies right after the merge. I don't believe in coincidences like that.

Are scum not going to communicate townfirms to eachother in BTSC?

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:52 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:43 pm Dom did you see my theory that because Cecil survived 8 days in Pikachu without being killed after I outted him and then he got killed right when we swapped around, one of the Cerberus swappers killed Cecil?
I did not nor do I really understand.

Can you please explain point by point?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:44 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:43 pm Sorry, must be too highfalutin with my college degree.

DH wants to get other people to lynch you.

Why does that make him bad?
It's so ironic that you missed the point when I mentioned college. You took it as an insult. I meant it as a compliment.

I don't think DH is bad. I never have.
Do you want to answer my question or not? I'm sick of this.
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:46 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:39 pm Ok I'm not caught up yet but I have to say this.

I am thoroughly moved by your belef in our capicity to lynch Speedchuck, and disappointed with myself that I wasn't motivated enough to yell at everyone to do it and instead spent 48 hours hosting Image Mafia or doing RL things or other pointless crap. Which led to a wagon of a grand total of 6 people ignoring host evidence and voting for me instead, and another 4 doing jack shit.

My hearts throbs at seeing all the betrayed hope, of those children who thought we could get it done and yet, instead of receiving the present they expected, found a carcass of a dead marmot under the christmas tree. With coal.

I must do something to vindicate them.

So I promise you, people, that Speedchuck will die on Day 10.

There are no "buts" or "ifs". No tinfoil. I will personally confiscate every tinfoil hat and burn them if necessary. I will place them on the floor in a way that the smoke forms the words "LYNCH SPEEDCHUCK" when they burn.

There is a host post saying he is a civ and another host post confirming the existance of a role that can create host posts with inverted alignment. It's not any more clear cut than that. Of course there may be ways this information can be wrong, just like there may be ways DH actually caught all scum by himself, but we don't count on those when playing mafia. We follow the most logical path and accept the gift given to use by the hosts. Specially in a game where, let's be frank, we are kicking mafia in the asses so hard I can almost smell the tears coming from their BTSC chats. We have spare days to test weird tangents, and we most definitely have spare days to follow occam's razor, and if that fails, follow weird tangents afterwards.

Speedchuck dies. End of story. If there is any new information from the last 10 pages that makes this post hilariously misguided, show it to me now, otherwise the first time you see me on Day 10 will be with a torch, a pitchfork, and whatever tool they use to kill the lizard thing that is on Chuck's avatar.
I'm not voting speedchuck tomorrow. That's the lazy vote. I already explained why waiting to lynch him is the best option. We have limited information and waiting a not-horribly-long amount of time to see if a bona fide alignment revealer flips is the logical course of action. We're not at LYLO. We can afford it. With every flip that isn't that role, the probability of him being scum increases. No need to rush into a lynch now.

I will not be accepting any counterpoints at this time, thank you. Especially because today isn't Day 10 and we don't need to be talking about speedchuck.
How long do we wait for a bonafide revealer?

Not too long - Day 11 or 12, at the latest. But jumping right into this 'We absolutely without fail or any further consideration must lynch speedchuck' thing sucks.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:46 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:39 pm Ok I'm not caught up yet but I have to say this.

I am thoroughly moved by your belef in our capicity to lynch Speedchuck, and disappointed with myself that I wasn't motivated enough to yell at everyone to do it and instead spent 48 hours hosting Image Mafia or doing RL things or other pointless crap. Which led to a wagon of a grand total of 6 people ignoring host evidence and voting for me instead, and another 4 doing jack shit.

My hearts throbs at seeing all the betrayed hope, of those children who thought we could get it done and yet, instead of receiving the present they expected, found a carcass of a dead marmot under the christmas tree. With coal.

I must do something to vindicate them.

So I promise you, people, that Speedchuck will die on Day 10.

There are no "buts" or "ifs". No tinfoil. I will personally confiscate every tinfoil hat and burn them if necessary. I will place them on the floor in a way that the smoke forms the words "LYNCH SPEEDCHUCK" when they burn.

There is a host post saying he is a civ and another host post confirming the existance of a role that can create host posts with inverted alignment. It's not any more clear cut than that. Of course there may be ways this information can be wrong, just like there may be ways DH actually caught all scum by himself, but we don't count on those when playing mafia. We follow the most logical path and accept the gift given to use by the hosts. Specially in a game where, let's be frank, we are kicking mafia in the asses so hard I can almost smell the tears coming from their BTSC chats. We have spare days to test weird tangents, and we most definitely have spare days to follow occam's razor, and if that fails, follow weird tangents afterwards.

Speedchuck dies. End of story. If there is any new information from the last 10 pages that makes this post hilariously misguided, show it to me now, otherwise the first time you see me on Day 10 will be with a torch, a pitchfork, and whatever tool they use to kill the lizard thing that is on Chuck's avatar.
I'm not voting speedchuck tomorrow. That's the lazy vote. I already explained why waiting to lynch him is the best option. We have limited information and waiting a not-horribly-long amount of time to see if a bona fide alignment revealer flips is the logical course of action. We're not at LYLO. We can afford it. With every flip that isn't that role, the probability of him being scum increases. No need to rush into a lynch now.

I will not be accepting any counterpoints at this time, thank you. Especially because today isn't Day 10 and we don't need to be talking about speedchuck.
Wait,

Waiting until a civ dies in order to lynch a guy who has a solid, if arguable chance of being bad based on not only Role but Thread evidence is the logical course of action?

QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yeah actually

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:39 pm Ok I'm not caught up yet but I have to say this.

I am thoroughly moved by your belef in our capicity to lynch Speedchuck, and disappointed with myself that I wasn't motivated enough to yell at everyone to do it and instead spent 48 hours hosting Image Mafia or doing RL things or other pointless crap. Which led to a wagon of a grand total of 6 people ignoring host evidence and voting for me instead, and another 4 doing jack shit.

My hearts throbs at seeing all the betrayed hope, of those children who thought we could get it done and yet, instead of receiving the present they expected, found a carcass of a dead marmot under the christmas tree. With coal.

I must do something to vindicate them.

So I promise you, people, that Speedchuck will die on Day 10.

There are no "buts" or "ifs". No tinfoil. I will personally confiscate every tinfoil hat and burn them if necessary. I will place them on the floor in a way that the smoke forms the words "LYNCH SPEEDCHUCK" when they burn.

There is a host post saying he is a civ and another host post confirming the existance of a role that can create host posts with inverted alignment. It's not any more clear cut than that. Of course there may be ways this information can be wrong, just like there may be ways DH actually caught all scum by himself, but we don't count on those when playing mafia. We follow the most logical path and accept the gift given to use by the hosts. Specially in a game where, let's be frank, we are kicking mafia in the asses so hard I can almost smell the tears coming from their BTSC chats. We have spare days to test weird tangents, and we most definitely have spare days to follow occam's razor, and if that fails, follow weird tangents afterwards.

Speedchuck dies. End of story. If there is any new information from the last 10 pages that makes this post hilariously misguided, show it to me now, otherwise the first time you see me on Day 10 will be with a torch, a pitchfork, and whatever tool they use to kill the lizard thing that is on Chuck's avatar.

I'm not voting speedchuck tomorrow. That's the lazy vote. I already explained why waiting to lynch him is the best option. We have limited information and waiting a not-horribly-long amount of time to see if a bona fide alignment revealer flips is the logical course of action. We're not at LYLO. We can afford it. With every flip that isn't that role, the probability of him being scum increases. No need to rush into a lynch now.

I will not be accepting any counterpoints at this time, thank you. Especially because today isn't Day 10 and we don't need to be talking about speedchuck.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 am What I'm trying to say is that if anybody on our side sabotaged the challenge, their only real motivation for that would be that there's a higher chance of scum being sent over from the other tribe than ours. So if Sloonei (or a top townie over there) flip bad, we can look back at this event.

This is all assuming they have BTSC to coordinate this, which I don't see why they wouldn't.

Long Con and nutella did the challenge. Both were bad.

Are you an Evil Even, Sloonei?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm I'm counting on you, Quin.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:44 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:40 pm DH is refrigerator tho
Is Refrigerator good?

And nobody ever explained how DH is that role either.
Refrigerator provides protection, at a cost. It could be good or bad, I guess, but I lean good. Mafia roles aren't usually half-assed if you're helping teammates with them. I'd believe doctor before refrigerator.

As for why:

Pikachu:
cbob - fak lynch D6 role
DDL - vote manip
DH - has not been haiku'd I think
Dom - not the guy taking me off the poll
Epi - has been haiku'd
LC - dead mafia
nut - dead mafia
Quin - probably the guy taking me off the poll
speedchuck
sprit - cecil
SVS - plague

Haiku is still alive. The haikus did not follow us into Cerberus when the button was pressed. Of the unknowns (Dom, Epi, DH, Quin), Dom and Quin came with us to pikachu. Haikudude (DH or Epi) stayed.

Granted, you could have haiku'd yourself, unless I've forgotten or am missing something. And I know you can't confess to that. Heck, it might make sense as you protecting yourself.

...

Okay, so haiku is either Epi or DH. I forget why I had it as DH for sure.

pretty sure its dom

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:44 pm Aha, now we *can* lynch speedchuck.

they took him off the poll fam

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