The Syndicate

Tell me your thoughts about Zuo Ci, Mac.

That's didn't speak Night 5 and then returned Night 6, mb.

Actually, not sure if that matters. My observation is that the thread speaker didn't speak on Night 6 but returned on Night 7.

You were silenced on Day 6, right Mac?

Why do you think you are being silenced so often, Scotty?

indiglo wrote:Ok, I voted:

LoRab and Zou Ci

I think LoRab is bad, and I'm just not confident enough which, if any, of the other leading vote takers are bad. So, I voted Zou Ci in case that triggers something awesome and cool, not because I want Zou Ci gone. And because I don't think he's in danger of taking other votes. But what if he gets something for receiving a vote?

Eep, what if his role says he implodes if he even gets 1 vote? I didn't think of that before I voted for him.

I couldn't stop over analyzing, and I really need to get going with my evening and log off. I will say this - this is the first time I've played a game where the thread closes at night, and I actually really, really like it. It's such a nice break after over thinking everything for 48 hours.

When I played Red vs Blue the day ended at like 5 in the morning so I missed EoD all but maybe one time

It's about lunch time right now, so this is a great change of pace for me too.

indiglo wrote:
Quin wrote:I developed what I think is a strong case for MP and Dom being teammates here, indiglo. What do you think? It's really only a snippet of what I've observed against Dom, so I'd very much like it if you went through my posts.

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MovingPictures07 wrote:I think, of Dom, MM, and Russ, at least from what I've read thus far, I can most understand why Dom is getting attention, but I don't agree with it. It's the classic "_______ is making assertions and not backing them up or stating them in an obtrusive way, therefore ______ must have sinister intentions" combined with the phenomenon that taking strong stances and/or attracting attention with weird behavior or a posting gimmick also is more likely to have sinister intentions.

I wouldn't call Dom a remotely strong civilian read by any means at this point, but this stuff is pretty weak, guys. Especially with all of the players that are contributing bupkis.

He has a few posts around this time where he's pretty strongly defending Dom. He instigated a CFD on timmer because he didn't like the three main wagons. Dom is the only unknown there and MP could have easily gotten by not opposing the main trains. He says he understands why Dom is getting attention and calls the cases against him weak, which is contradictory imo. I saw teamie potential between Dom and Wilgy/Marmot, but I'm seeing it stronger here.

I definitely see what you're saying here with the defense of Dom by MP. I think that, if we just look at those exchanges, it does look like MP could be defending a teammate. At the same time, when I was ISOing MP, he seemed to be buddying up to a whole bunch of players. He basically just said every active player was civ, and he could see where they're coming from. He even defended a few other players, although I don't recall him ever saying that the other lynches were BS the way he did with Dom.

So I could see his defense of Dom going either way. It could be teammate defending, OR civ buddying. I guess I just don't see it as 100% definitive indication of teammate-ness. How lame. I wish I did see it as definitive. Then I could go ahead and vote and just be done with it!

MP was definitely buddying in his green list. When I looked at it I went through all of the players who were active throughout the thread before that point, and Dom definitely was, he just didn't make the list, and I think that means something.

indiglo wrote:Ack. My brain has turned to mush again doing a Quin/nutella read. I may take a quick break, refresh myself, and then come back before EoD.

I'm ready to vote for LoRab right now, but I'd like to have a second vote ready to go at the same time... you know, so my votes count and everything.

~Linki with Quin. Now that you've given me a direction, I'll look through that before I take my break and refresh. Yay! Look at us, participating, playing this game together? Ain't it grand?

It was as quiet as a library in here before you showed up

I developed what I think is a strong case for MP and Dom being teammates here, indiglo. What do you think? It's really only a snippet of what I've observed against Dom, so I'd very much like it if you went through my posts.

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MovingPictures07 wrote:I think, of Dom, MM, and Russ, at least from what I've read thus far, I can most understand why Dom is getting attention, but I don't agree with it. It's the classic "_______ is making assertions and not backing them up or stating them in an obtrusive way, therefore ______ must have sinister intentions" combined with the phenomenon that taking strong stances and/or attracting attention with weird behavior or a posting gimmick also is more likely to have sinister intentions.

I wouldn't call Dom a remotely strong civilian read by any means at this point, but this stuff is pretty weak, guys. Especially with all of the players that are contributing bupkis.

He has a few posts around this time where he's pretty strongly defending Dom. He instigated a CFD on timmer because he didn't like the three main wagons. Dom is the only unknown there and MP could have easily gotten by not opposing the main trains. He says he understands why Dom is getting attention and calls the cases against him weak, which is contradictory imo. I saw teamie potential between Dom and Wilgy/Marmot, but I'm seeing it stronger here.

nutella wrote:
Quin wrote: I think that there's been associations between nutella and the Nanman that make me consider that possibility more than I do LoRab, at the very least.
What associations? Please elaborate because most of my "associations" with the nanman have been successfully voting for them.

We've already discussed them with you before, so just have a look through your/my posts if you want a recap. I do think your voting for them are in your favour, but I'm not about to disregard them on account of that.

indiglo wrote:Ok, here and working on catching up before I do a Boom read, and maybe a Dom read, since I've seen his name mentioned.

Quick question though,

How come we are having so many people pop on, not talk about who they're voting for, and just vote and run away again with no discussion? That is not good my friends. Working together is all we've got. Now I don't expect a dissertation here, but at least a few words, and a few moments consideration before just splattering the poll with a mish mash of votes. It looks like it's been sprayed with machine gun fire!

But I do approve of the LoRab votes.

This is all I want in life. If people could just do this, I could die happy.

indiglo wrote:
Quin wrote: I don't expect you to defend yourself against my read on sig. Just keep doing what you're doing, because I like it
Possible responses, please pick one:

A. Much obliged.

B. Not the first time I've heard that, if you know what I mean.

C. That's what she said.

D. None of the above.

E. All of the above.

E, but also D because that's disgusting.

I voted Simon and...Dom.

Simon wrote:
Quin wrote:A question for Simon - why did you vote MP?
We found out he's bad now.

That does not answer my question.

indiglo wrote:
Quin wrote: I came to a similar conclusion in an earlier post, but without LoRab because I'm 99 percent sure he just got the two names mixed up and the dialogue just went in that direction. I also mentioned that sig looks bad in my analysis
So you feel nutella is more likely their Nan teammate over LoRab? Sorry, just trying to clarify.

And you felt sig was also their Nan teammate? Sorry, I haven't yet read your analysis, so I may be getting what you said confused. Fortunately for me, I don't have to waste my time analyzing sig, because I know the role.

I think that there's been associations between nutella and the Nanman that make me consider that possibility more than I do LoRab, at the very least. I uncovered something similar about sig.

I don't expect you to defend yourself against my read on sig. Just keep doing what you're doing, because I like it

indiglo wrote:Reading MetalMarsh...

Here's a pattern I noticed. (Which, JJJ picked up on straight away, earning himself a NK from the Nan)

MM talked to Wilgy (his Nan teammate) a LOT in the thread. In fact, in many of MM's posts he would refer to Wilgy and 1 other player. For example (I am just posting a brief sampling, the patterns I noticed happened over a large number of MM's posts, and multiple times, but to save space and time I'm keeping this post as brief as I can):

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I give my votes to DrWilgy and JaggedJimmyJay, in hopes they will perform as they did in Talking Heads mafia.

I'm leaving for a camping trip soon. I'll be back on Wednesday. Peace!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting for DrWilgy and Turnip Head in the hopes that one of them will end up dueling me. Oh, and the day ends in 75 minutes.

Catch you all later.

In both these, he talked about Wilgy and first JJJ and then TH. What do JJJ and TH both have in common? They were NKed by Nan. So MM likes to talk about his teammates, and his NK targets this game, apparently.

He did make a few posts that actually didn't mention Wilgy, like this one:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Jan wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
You have a 71% chance of being correct about a civilian read.
You have a 29% chance of being correct about a non-civilian read.

Therefore, civilian reads are more likely to be accurate.
Oh lord, turns out I misunderstood the whole point that person was making. And here as well, I thought you were trying to convince me to make wild guesses by giving me that proportion.

I thought they basically had said that civilians are more likely to read scum correctly than scum, which is pretty obvious and facepalmed.

I guess I should go to sleep.
Well there you go. Have a good rest.

He also had a few posts going back and forth with Scotty where he did NOT mention Wilgy. That makes me think that neither Jan nor Scotty are teammates with MM, because he broke his usual pattern of mentioning a teammate, and a NK target.

Then, there's this post, which kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I should just start playing like MM. He has more fun than I do.
Are you not having fun?

Stay determined friend.

DrWilgy wrote:
nutella wrote:Oh I also want to hear more from Wilgy. I feel like he's usually a lot more active than this, but I keep forgetting he's even in this game and I don't think that's a good sign. Likewise with sig, to a slightly lesser extent.
How could you forget about me LoRab? I was at work and had dnd night, but never left...
LoRab hasn't posted yet DrWilgy. Does that bother you?

Here's why it sticks out like a sore thumb: he sticks to his pattern of mentioning Wilgy and a NK target (JJJ) but he also mentions nutella and LoRab in the same post. Neither of which has been NKed by Nan. That's what leaves me scratching my head. Anytime he's mentioned Wilgy (which was a LOT) it was also in a post with someone the Nan NKed. Then, he has some interactions in other posts with people I deem non-teammates, due to his pattern. Then, he has this - fits the pattern, but also has extra names. Are those extra names additional teammates? I can't know, but it definitely piques my interest.

Makes me want to do a read on both nutella and LoRab. Thoughts?

For now, I will move on to Wilgy, the other known Nan.

I came to a similar conclusion in an earlier post, but without LoRab because I'm 99 percent sure he just got the two names mixed up and the dialogue just went in that direction. I also mentioned that sig looks bad in my analysis

Also, something that people probably already have figured out for themselves, but just in case:

We'll know when we can deliberate whether we've exhausted the Yellow Turban kill or not. Right now we cannot, because we haven't lynched Dong Zhuo. The fact that the YT kill has stopped makes me think one of two (three, including a tinfoil) things:

1) The final YT is inactive
2) The final YT is dead but Dong Zhuo is inactive

A tinfoil, assuming the Dong Zhuo kill will be named as such in the night posts:
3) Dong Zhuo has inherited the kill, but is withholding their kill to make us continue looking for YT teammates.

I'm looking at Simon and nijuu right now, and I'm not really garnering (is that the right word?) anything from their posts.

So instead, let's discuss their voting histories.

Simon

On Day 1, he voted 3J along with MacDougall, Dom and Bubblei. He was alone in doing so on Day 2. I need to read into the context behind these decisions. More to the point, 3J was killed night 2. All of 3J's votes while he was alive were for confirmed civs (besides Scotty for prefect), so I imagine if 3J were being treated as a normal civ (or at least, a normal 'not on the same team as the one who killed him'), he wouldn't be topping the priority list for a night kill. From my experience playing with him, I imagine that being 3J, baddies are always going to put a target on his back whether he's on the right track with his reads or not. I'll read into the argument against 3J and decide whether I think there's something there or not. Nobody died on Night 1 even though we know that the nanman were in part active, so I think that was a game mechanic and not activity based - and that also means that Night 2 was the earliest night kills could be submitted. I think this is more in favor to the four I mentioned, because it would be much easier to night kill 3J than to kill him in a duel, so putting votes on him seems like a pointless endeavor.

I don't have anything specific to say about Simon past this point, but he self-votes often which tells me he's very likely a warrior, and probably not a Yellow Turban.

A question for Simon - why did you vote MP?

I'll look at nijuu later. I had a million thoughts about what could be and what couldnt be just with this and I want a break

I put Simon and nijuu in the same category as people who at one point did contribute, but are now just dropping off their votes late for unspecified reasons. I'll read into them both and give my thoughts soon.

Does anyone have GTH's they'd like to share with the class?

In other news, I'm sick again.

Or to be more specific, that weird stage where it could go either way and I just feel awful but I'm not hindered by it at all.

I'm going to step back from my Dom vote for today. Nothing's come of time and time again so I'll try something else by voting Dunny and nijuu. I'm putting some faith in Zuo Ci because I agree that he very well could be 3J, and nijuu because I've observed her in this game often placing votes for innapropriate reasons given the context of the game at the time.

Epignosis wrote:
Day 7: A Peasant’s Labor is Overlooked

勞動天

Rey Was labored every day in his fields, hoping to be rewarded for his diligence. He knew Zhang Jiao would repay him kindly. Zhang Bao saw his work and thought he could make him work harder if he got his brother to make the weather hotter. Rey Was labored all day, and grew faint, and that is how he died.

This continues the evils the Yellow Turbans inflicted upon the peasants.

reywaS has been killed by the Yellow Turbans.
It is now Day 7. You have 48 hours and two votes each to decide the who will be in the fourth duel.

It was Day 6 actually, Scotty.

Does this change anything in your train of thought?

Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to keep pushing for a Dom lynch. My thoughts against him haven't changed much from before, but they haven't been dismissed either. I've voted him the past three days and he hasn't looked twice. Are you ignoring me, Dom?
Who would be your second vote if you had to vote now?

I would probably join you in voting one of the four you listed.

I probably won't vote indiglo today. Part of it is that she's done a good job of integrating herself from the get-go, which I like. Another part of it is that I want to keep her around just because she's probably more active than half the current living players already and from a 'having fun' motivation, killing active players sucks.

I want to keep pushing for a Dom lynch. My thoughts against him haven't changed much from before, but they haven't been dismissed either. I've voted him the past three days and he hasn't looked twice. Are you ignoring me, Dom?

Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm cool with voting inactive people.
It's not even that INH is inactive- he's participated for some time- he's just supposed to be someone that is leading the civ cause. That's what he advertised in being a prefect. JJJ was a good prefect, I am a good prefect, I don't think he is.
This is the argument I'm worried about within the INH wagon. Scotty, what was your thought process that lead you to the conclusion that he was bad because he wasn't 'leading' the civ cause? I realise you've been pushing him for a while, but this looks like a giant step back in the quality of your case against him.
I found his absence striking around day 3 or so, and gave him time to make cases and prove himself. I might be a little biased because he was a fellow prefect, but I didn't like his nonchalance. Added to the fact that he voted in tandem with MM just gave me blinders. It's like a couple of horses showing up to the horse race, except one has a peg leg and should have been put down and converted to dog food ages ago.

Do you think the lead up to getting INH looks like an inside job from me? I can't tell if that's what you're suggesting.

I wasn't suggesting anything, I just wanted to hear your thought process. I read back into yours and INH's dialogue and I can see a natural flow to your suspicion of him, so I'm content with that.

Scotty wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I'm cool with voting inactive people.
It's not even that INH is inactive- he's participated for some time- he's just supposed to be someone that is leading the civ cause. That's what he advertised in being a prefect. JJJ was a good prefect, I am a good prefect, I don't think he is.

This is the argument I'm worried about within the INH wagon. Scotty, what was your thought process that lead you to the conclusion that he was bad because he wasn't 'leading' the civ cause? I realise you've been pushing him for a while, but this looks like a giant step back in the quality of your case against him.

Matahari wrote:Hi Indi, welcome. I replaced in too, and I'm a bit more comfortable now, but still find myself researching posts constantly. Good luck to you.

I have found four players who did not seem eager to vote inactives. Quin, Sig (sorry Indi), Golden, and Lorab (in sideways fashion? Lorab suspected Glorf, I think, for mentioning inactives a lot, as though he was trying to point suspicion their way, but she also pointed out that he only mentioned voting them once, and she found this suspicious for some reason).

On the one hand, this is suspicious because we have turned up 2 bad inactives now, but on the other hand, there is more btsc than just bad teams. I also have a theory that Epignosis is not replacing the mafia inactives. I could be wrong there, of course, but I'm kind of stuck on that.

This trend of lynching inactive baddies based on them being inactive has never worked out for me before now, so this is a new experience for me. It happened by a fluke in Red vs Blue, I guess. I don't know anything about BTSC unfortunately.

If I'm gonna say something, I'll say that I didn't oppose of lynching INH - it just happened that a significant part of the case against him was that he didn't live up to peoples expectations as a prefect, therefore bad - which was objectively silly. I still stand by my thought process that the people who pushed against him with that case deserve further scrutiny.

I'm still not completely well, my throat feels like someones been fishing around in there with a razor

Nevertheless, I'll get back into the swing of things - not that there's been much thread content recently

I voted sig and Dom based on baddie associations I found earlier.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:The daisy vote seems to be coming from the mindset that the YT's are inactive as opposed to dead, which I'm not too fond of but I'm not going to fault it.

I'm okay with a sig vote, but what's the case against Dunny?
I'm not fond of it either, and look with suspicion upon the person pushing it, who mostly seems to be Scotty, who I already didn't trust. I think Scotty is YT.

Even when we had known YT's alive, their kill rate was low. I think there is some pre-condition to be met for their kill to go through.

It was the same way in SD's Psych mafia. I don't remember them all, but one of the conditions was that they needed to receive votes. Perhaps we should consider that here.

The daisy vote seems to be coming from the mindset that the YT's are inactive as opposed to dead, which I'm not too fond of but I'm not going to fault it.

I'm okay with a sig vote, but what's the case against Dunny?

unfortunately Sloonei has given me whatever god awful disease he's carrying so I'm a bit unmotivated right now. ill be sidelining it for a bit but ill keep up.

Golden wrote:I'm guessing that the messages are coming from someone you listed as bad, that isn't.

I don't think Zuo Ci is Zhang Bao. I think he is Jay.

Do you think that whoever we voted for took over the sock?

I do think that the earlier sock (whoever it was that was only speaking in chinese) could have been Zhang Bao, just because of the whole apparitions thing associated with his role.

Zuo Ci is much different to her on a mechanical level, so I don't think that they're in the same boat.

I don't think the fact that he didn't live up to the expectations people set for him as a prefect is a good reason to lynch him, so I'm definitely wary of some of his voters.

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:I guess I'll just put my votes in a bit early, going with Dom and sig.
you misclicked on simon.

sig still has not posted since i joined this game. That's beyond the point of being suspicious, he clearly just has things going on and can't play right now. But he's not ruled out as a suspect. Voting for him isn't a bad option in a game like this. With this many inactive players and a lack of strong active suspects (for me, at least), it's feeling more and more likely that lynching inactive players can catch us a bad guy or two. It's never going to be my favorite strategy, but I hate it less in a game like this.

oh bobba

sig has posted for brief periods during Day 2, and he made a good point against TH in however limited his activity was.

I guess I'll just put my votes in a bit early, going with Dom and sig.

nutella wrote:Oh yeah TH is dead lol. Good one Quin

He is.

nutella wrote:Quin, I'm not sure why you think I'm "potential nanman," and to be honest I don't really understand how you arrived at most of your list (I kind of get the Dom and TH part I guess). Could you elaborate? What makes you think I could be nanman based on those posts and taking my voting record into account?

I didn't take your voting record into account, that list is made up almost entirely of the interactions of confirmed baddies. Your soft accusation to sig and Wilgy caught my attention just because I'd already come up with a thought processes for a sig/Wilgy team. Yours isn't the strongest case I have in that list, especially since sig hasn't flipped, so I do think you deserve scrutiny, but I don't think you should be voted today if we're voting based off of my insight (which you shouldn't - get your own damn cases

)

Scotty wrote:
Quin wrote:Based on all that, these are people who I think deserve more scrutiny (in no particular order)

Potential Nanmans:
nutella
sig
Dom
Turnip Head

Potential Yellow Turbans:
Dom
Turnip Head

I also went back five pages from when MP made his initial green list and here's a list of everyone I'd consider to have been 'active' during that time but didn't make MP's green list:

Golden
Dom
insertnamehere
We can scrutinize TH all we want. He dead now, and I thought him bad then, and I still think he bad.

as for MP's green list, do you think those on the list are suspicious? Because I would not expect Mp to complete disregard his team on a green list. I'd expect 1-2 maybe.

Looks like you've got Nutella as a potential Nanman. I seem to remember getting shit for even suggesting the link because of MP's and nutella's fracas in the early days. I do think that the Wilgy WIFOM referring to LoRab may or may not have to do with Nutella, since he was technically replying to nutella's post.

I'm still down to vote Nutella and INH. For the 3rd (4th?) day in a row. And I'm fine in avoiding anyone that's dueled before.

I don't know. Like I said, his green list was just composed of then-active players so I don't know if future-proofing himself was his motivation.

Based on all that, these are people who I think deserve more scrutiny (in no particular order)

Potential Nanmans:
nutella
sig
Dom
Turnip Head

Potential Yellow Turbans:
Dom
Turnip Head

I also went back five pages from when MP made his initial green list and here's a list of everyone I'd consider to have been 'active' during that time but didn't make MP's green list:

Golden
Dom
insertnamehere

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This was what originally founded my MP suspicion, so far all but Boomslang and myself are dead, and among those that are, the only one who's alignment is in question is TH. I believe I already did a read on Boomslang much earlier, but I'll update that just in case there were some baddie associations here. These names were just made up of the most active people at the time, so I think any interactions that may be involved here is coincidental, but I will go look through people who were active that didn't make his list.

I already mentioned that Mac looks good out of the fallout from that post. The back and forth they had was way too emotional and heated to be premeditated in BTSC. It helps my read when after the fact MP still went through the dialogue and made an actual case on him. Mac, I don't think you ever responded to it - I tried posting it here again but every time I tried to the formatting went all weird and chunks got cut out of it. It's on his second page of posts and I'd very much like it if you could talk about it.

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He has a few posts around this time where he's pretty strongly defending Dom. He instigated a CFD on timmer because he didn't like the three main wagons. Dom is the only unknown there and MP could have easily gotten by not opposing the main trains. He says he understands why Dom is getting attention and calls the cases against him weak, which is contradictory imo. I saw teamie potential between Dom and Wilgy/Marmot, but I'm seeing it stronger here.

MovingPictures07 wrote:DDL, just here quickly to say that I don't understand how you're coming to the meta assessments of me this game. I don't think I'm patient and I don't at all think that I always react patiently to suspicion when I'm civilian. So if you suspect me for your meta assessment of me, I'm not sure what to say about that. I'm sorry I didn't try to converse with you on it but I keep popping on here when instead I should be studying and I don't have the time to get bogged down in a conversation right now. I just wanted to quickly post my observation because it appeared to me that you were misrepresenting me, and I found that suspicious. Like I said, if you suspect me because I barely talked about MM, cool, I honestly expected more heat about that by now. I was wrong about him, but I didn't like the way everyone was bandwagoning him for what I saw as barely alignment indicative behavior, especially since he and Wilgy WIFOM the fuck out of each other every game. I'm willing to take responsibility for the fact that I was wrong.

And lol Dom, you suspect me in every game we play together, so I knew it was a matter of time. I don't feel like arguing with you and I don't have the time. But I'll just point out that timmer wanted to duel and he wasn't bad, so... yeah. I have my reasons. Trust me. I wanted to duel nutella today.

I'm pretty confident in saying nutella isn't a yellow turban. I don't think MP in his current PhD workload would really want to go to the effort of duelling his own teammate and potentially killing a teammate more active than he is.

I don't...actually expect anyone to answer that thing about Dom. I kind of went ahead without concluding that one.

The quality of his suspicions kind of fluxuates between legitimate and forced, and that shouldn't be happening for a baddie who's legitimately scum hunting (as I think he was). He makes a good point against nutella that I'd typically associate with baddie behaviour, so I think that one was legitimate. His Dom and TH cases give off a teamie vibe of sorts, though.

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I guess this is the other half to the last thing I commented on with Wilgy, so nutella has nothing to do with this one at all.

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I've gone full circle and come back to this post a second time to consider the possibility that this was some triple teammate bus/vote/distancing whatever the fuck. I wish I'd voted TH last night now.

At the least what I can do is go through TH again and come to a concrete opinion as to whether he was their teammate or not. I'd also like to compare this with anyone else who wants to go through his posts if anyone is interested. What say you, Zuo Ci?

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Marmot's response after 3J questioned him for his suspects. Keep in mind the Nanman also need to be scum hunting. Marmot has some dialogue with/about MP that makes me think that he has been doing this, and that he was at some point eyeing him up as a suspect. The only one of these that I'd accept without question is his suspicion of nutella (not to say I'd agree with it, I have no playing experience with her). Why should Dom have talked about you? I'd question the last one because I don't actually know who he was trying to shade.

I'll go in order of when each person flipped for this, and just highlight any interactions or posts that stand out.

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DrWilgy

He voted sig for prefect on a 'first to do [action]'. I recall this method getting a bit of scrutiny early on because it could easily enough be a premeditated baddie move. So I figured I'd mention this.

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Sort of a softball sus at Wilgy and sig from nutella. There are more people that those two who's inactivity was apparent on Day 1, and I've just previously brought up a connection between Wilgy and sig, so I can't help but look into this. Another observation is that he mixed up nutella and LoRab's names. But nothing more than that at this point.

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Considering LoRab didn't even show up until Day 2 I'm inclined to think he's talking about nutella. Or maybe this is just some complex mindfuck orchestrated by The Syndicates most incomprehensible baddie team to distance themselves from a teammate.

Golden wrote:Don't be silly, Quin.

I've seen you using at least sixth grade English.

You mean it?

Matahari wrote:
Quin wrote:I'll do my analysis of the flipped baddies this afternoon. There's still so many people alive so I imagine it'll be fairly basic, just because I'm not so invested that I would spend an entire day sorting through both sides of everyone's interactions.

I also notice my names been brought up by our little friend, but I don't speak English above a fifth grade level so I don't completely understand . I imagine he's suggesting he finds my accusation of TCF for volunteering to be voted to be suspicious, and to that I would say that I find anyone who tried that to be suspicious, for reasons I believe I've elaborated on twice now.

He should also continue to umm..let the course of nature..guide ..his hand... to the discovery of an epiphany to..umm...enlighten us all.
In this game, volunteering to be voted isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are some incentives to dueling, but I take it that you won't be volunteering, since you find it suspicious. Given the mechanics of the game, I don't see it as cut and dried as you see it. I'll reread your posts on it to see the reasons you elaborated on.

I won't be volunteering, no. I still think we should be putting our top scum reads up every time. We don't need to worry about the probabilities of a civ volunteer losing if we aren't putting a civ read on the chopping block on the first place. We're more likely to learn things this way too, which is something that I believe Scotty was getting at earlier.

But I also do have a fairly meaty report due at the end of the week so my activity might be a bit more 'spotty' until then. I usually say this and then wind up being twice as active as I was before, probably because of how much of a procrastinator I am

, but it doesn't hurt to mention just in case I drop off the face of the earth.

I'll do my analysis of the flipped baddies this afternoon. There's still so many people alive so I imagine it'll be fairly basic, just because I'm not so invested that I would spend an entire day sorting through both sides of everyone's interactions.

I also notice my names been brought up by our little friend, but I don't speak English above a fifth grade level so I don't completely understand

. I imagine he's suggesting he finds my accusation of TCF for volunteering to be voted to be suspicious, and to that I would say that I find anyone who tried that to be suspicious, for reasons I believe I've elaborated on twice now.

He should also continue to umm..let the course of nature..guide ..his hand... to the discovery of an epiphany to..umm...enlighten us all.

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:Hm.... JJJ was a civ-- who's been trying their best to paint him as bad?
Wow...and see I was going to give an explanation of why I voted for JJJ but thought to keep my mouth shut since I don't have true evidence. But...I voted JJJ b/c I thought maybe this was a "bring someone back" poll. I thought JJJ was civ and thought whoever started the whole JJJ is bad thing is the one who is actually bad. Anyone know who started that train of thought?

Also, may I say that my instincts have been spot on this game despite not getting caught up in all the details of what everyone is saying. Meaning, I am not keeping up with the thread too much, but I do read for tone here and there and I have been wrong ONE time on who is who regarding roles and what not. B/c of that, I think I will share my thoughts on golden and Lorab. I think both are bad. The whole thing where golden changed his mind so quickly about Simon....I didn't say it at the time, but it pinged me somethin' awful. Lorab's overall tone has made me thing she is bad. And they both voted for TH most recently, who I think is also bad. Maybe they thought it was a resurrect poll as well.
I did. Why does it makes me bad?
You did what? Voted for TH? I never said it made you bad. In fact, I don;t even remember mentioning your name at all Scotty voted for TH too. I don't think he is bad. Your reaction is odd imo. Anyone who has been playing mafia more than a game or two would know that not EVERYONE in the vote line-up will be of the same alignment. Weird Quin, weird.

Yeah, weird.

Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:Hm.... JJJ was a civ-- who's been trying their best to paint him as bad?
Wow...and see I was going to give an explanation of why I voted for JJJ but thought to keep my mouth shut since I don't have true evidence. But...I voted JJJ b/c I thought maybe this was a "bring someone back" poll. I thought JJJ was civ and thought whoever started the whole JJJ is bad thing is the one who is actually bad. Anyone know who started that train of thought?

Also, may I say that my instincts have been spot on this game despite not getting caught up in all the details of what everyone is saying. Meaning, I am not keeping up with the thread too much, but I do read for tone here and there and I have been wrong ONE time on who is who regarding roles and what not. B/c of that, I think I will share my thoughts on golden and Lorab. I think both are bad. The whole thing where golden changed his mind so quickly about Simon....I didn't say it at the time, but it pinged me somethin' awful. Lorab's overall tone has made me thing she is bad. And they both voted for TH most recently, who I think is also bad. Maybe they thought it was a resurrect poll as well.

I did. Why does it makes me bad?

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