The Syndicate

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:16 pm If I'm bad, Quin, who is my remaining partner? If I am bad, what is my logic behind turning on Sprityo when my team is still in a position of near absolute strength?

Your partner is whoever I happen to suspect. I'm not a thorough enough player to be able to identify a complete scum team combination to believe in one suspect. I know it's not ideal, but it's just not how I play mafia.

You only turned on sprityo after a number of people had turned on him first. You were early to start bringing attention to sprityo, but your vote was last. In between, I don't get the impression you were critical enough to his lynch to suggest that you made your own decision to turn on him.

You also said this:

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:31 pm I wish Mac hadn't voted for Sprityo, because that's where I'm leaning right now.

Wilgy- of those five I listed, take Tink out. Who would be next after eliminating the barely-there participant?

Which doesn't make sense to me because you had barely mentioned Mac until now. It's also a post that could have evolved into you not voting sprityo.

I'm voting G-Man. I find him a stronger suspect than I do Wilgy, and I'm reading DF as indy.

His first noteworthy mention of sprityo was when he included him in a large group of Day 1 low-fliers. Second instance was after Mac had voted for him and Wilgy had picked him out as a null read and zoned in on him a bit. His vote came very late in the day.

G-Man generally had three options on Day 4.

A) Vote for Fredwood
B) Vote for Elohcin
C) Vote (and assumedly promote) another candidate

His posts would make A or B counterproductive options, so I would have expected him to go with C. But he never mentioned any other name that might be getting his vote that day. He named his opposition to both Fredwood and Eloh lynches, gave reasoning behind it and proposed an exercise he didn't participate in himself.

Tink wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:03 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:15 pm I think we're going to want to return to these lists overnight and also on Day 5. For now, I don't trust the Eloh option.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:19 pm I'm going against my better judgement anyway. Voting Eloh.
Let your yes be yes and your no be no.

So if you said yes that Eloh is good, then that's your guess, and so you can't change your mind and say no and vote to lynch her.

Can't say I dislike the content Tink does provide though. I agree with this post. It was a close lynching between Eloh and Fredwood, but it's interesting that he suspected Fredwood for most of the game and then voted Eloh that day, even though he opposed both lynches.

Wilgy is giving me baddie Quin Mad Max vibes, his openness that he doesn't care about the alternatives while his preference is still alive was my shtick. It is scary.

I want to ISO G-Man before this day is over. I find his overall 'attitude' in the thread to be different than usual, which is what's raising flags, but that's not saying anything about his actual content.

Again, I've got no beef with DDL.

@Wilgy, you're trying to lynch a low poster in Dizzy while Tink is much less active than he is. Am I missing something? What's up?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:52 pm
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:19 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:26 pm It is also possible that DFaraday is either town or Mewtwo and also absorbed the night kill last night.
Is he immortal in your head Quin?
Why poking fun?
A 3rd party that can survive a lynch, that's fine.

A 3rd party that can survive a nk, also fine.

Both? Now I have speculation as to how serious this comment was.

I have an unkillable indy in the side mission I plan to host.

Neverwhere, you voted DF yesterday without so much as a post during the day. Why?

It is also possible that DFaraday is either town or Mewtwo and also absorbed the night kill last night.

spooky

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:11 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:10 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:07 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:59 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:55 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Sorry, you've made me one of your top suspects because I voted for a (at the time) no-show, then in the same post propose trying to get the other no-shows out?

I'm of the belief that when it comes to voting for someone I have no suspicion of and someone who is contributing nothing to the game, voting the latter is the better option. On Day 1 I didn't have any suspicions, so I would be forcing any reason I had to vote someone.

I'm not liking Boo's Timmer vote. It feels NO U-y, and doesn't make sense coming right after his campaign against LC and Nutella. I'll go ahead and vote Boo for now.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.
DFaraday would rather vote a no-show over someone he doesn't suspect. That's fine, but it should also mean that he'd rather vote someone he suspects over a no show. Yet here he is on Day 3 supporting lynches for no-shows when he's got a suspect in boo. He voted him yesterday. Now he's not a consideration. Why?
Because I'm not consistent? Most people aren't.

I know Boo can't go into do much detail for fear of role outing and such, but I really don't know what exactly it is he thinks I know. Since Eloh was confident of Tink from Day 1, I figured her being bad was the most likely way she'd know a civ alignment.

I was going to vote Boo for leading a lynch on me, then realized I still have a potential chance, so I'm sticking with Wilgy.
But what happened that moved boo from earning your vote to entertaining no-posters as an option again?
His Day 3 posts felt pretty sincere and tracked with what he'd said previously. I thought he jumped from his LC suspicion onto Timmer too easily, which made me suspect him, but he explained where he was at after that lynch and it made me feel a bit better about him. Lately he's really got me convinced he's civ, even though he's going after me.
But you just said you were thinking of voting boo for leading a lynch on you
I don't suspect him, I just thought my lynch was a done deal and would give a throwaway vote. Then I realized that the numbers could still swing my way, and voted someone I actually suspect.

Why would you not at least put a throwaway on someone you suspect? I am aware you did that in the end with Wilgy, but that vote wasn't a throwaway. The purpose of it being a throwaway specifically is important to me.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:07 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:59 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:55 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:08 pm RIP. Chrome ate my post. Time to retype.

Right now, I have tonal pings from both DDL and Boo though I'm unsure the direct cause. I don't think Boo is on a team with Hazelnut. I want to see where the Boo suspicion goes and see thier thoughts on having the vote lead.

I'd say put both DF and Timmer on the chopping block again for their shitty votes last cycle. Timmer's vote now has high momentum. He and Boo are probably not on a team.

Anyone wanna tie Mac and Dom, and have them fight to the death as they aren't here lol? Also now that I have some hindsight, it kinda sucks that TSP died right as he entered the game. Probably should have saved him rgardless of the alignment. Oh well, wasn't here.
Sorry, you've made me one of your top suspects because I voted for a (at the time) no-show, then in the same post propose trying to get the other no-shows out?

I'm of the belief that when it comes to voting for someone I have no suspicion of and someone who is contributing nothing to the game, voting the latter is the better option. On Day 1 I didn't have any suspicions, so I would be forcing any reason I had to vote someone.

I'm not liking Boo's Timmer vote. It feels NO U-y, and doesn't make sense coming right after his campaign against LC and Nutella. I'll go ahead and vote Boo for now.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.
DFaraday would rather vote a no-show over someone he doesn't suspect. That's fine, but it should also mean that he'd rather vote someone he suspects over a no show. Yet here he is on Day 3 supporting lynches for no-shows when he's got a suspect in boo. He voted him yesterday. Now he's not a consideration. Why?
Because I'm not consistent? Most people aren't.

I know Boo can't go into do much detail for fear of role outing and such, but I really don't know what exactly it is he thinks I know. Since Eloh was confident of Tink from Day 1, I figured her being bad was the most likely way she'd know a civ alignment.

I was going to vote Boo for leading a lynch on me, then realized I still have a potential chance, so I'm sticking with Wilgy.
But what happened that moved boo from earning your vote to entertaining no-posters as an option again?
His Day 3 posts felt pretty sincere and tracked with what he'd said previously. I thought he jumped from his LC suspicion onto Timmer too easily, which made me suspect him, but he explained where he was at after that lynch and it made me feel a bit better about him. Lately he's really got me convinced he's civ, even though he's going after me.

But you just said you were thinking of voting boo for leading a lynch on you

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:58 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:08 pm RIP. Chrome ate my post. Time to retype.

Right now, I have tonal pings from both DDL and Boo though I'm unsure the direct cause. I don't think Boo is on a team with Hazelnut. I want to see where the Boo suspicion goes and see thier thoughts on having the vote lead.

I'd say put both DF and Timmer on the chopping block again for their shitty votes last cycle. Timmer's vote now has high momentum. He and Boo are probably not on a team.

Anyone wanna tie Mac and Dom, and have them fight to the death as they aren't here lol? Also now that I have some hindsight, it kinda sucks that TSP died right as he entered the game. Probably should have saved him rgardless of the alignment. Oh well, wasn't here.
Sorry, you've made me one of your top suspects because I voted for a (at the time) no-show, then in the same post propose trying to get the other no-shows out?

I'm of the belief that when it comes to voting for someone I have no suspicion of and someone who is contributing nothing to the game, voting the latter is the better option. On Day 1 I didn't have any suspicions, so I would be forcing any reason I had to vote someone.

I'm not liking Boo's Timmer vote. It feels NO U-y, and doesn't make sense coming right after his campaign against LC and Nutella. I'll go ahead and vote Boo for now.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.
DFaraday would rather vote a no-show over someone he doesn't suspect. That's fine, but it should also mean that he'd rather vote someone he suspects over a no show. Yet here he is on Day 3 supporting lynches for no-shows when he's got a suspect in boo. He voted him yesterday. Now he's not a consideration. Why?
Also, your logic doesn't quite track. I might be okay with lynching no-shows over people I do suspect, especially when my suspects aren't likely to be up for lynching again.

This is a matter of mindset, I think. I can at least appreciate how you tackle lynches. I'm just not bound by those shackles.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:55 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:08 pm RIP. Chrome ate my post. Time to retype.

Right now, I have tonal pings from both DDL and Boo though I'm unsure the direct cause. I don't think Boo is on a team with Hazelnut. I want to see where the Boo suspicion goes and see thier thoughts on having the vote lead.

I'd say put both DF and Timmer on the chopping block again for their shitty votes last cycle. Timmer's vote now has high momentum. He and Boo are probably not on a team.

Anyone wanna tie Mac and Dom, and have them fight to the death as they aren't here lol? Also now that I have some hindsight, it kinda sucks that TSP died right as he entered the game. Probably should have saved him rgardless of the alignment. Oh well, wasn't here.
Sorry, you've made me one of your top suspects because I voted for a (at the time) no-show, then in the same post propose trying to get the other no-shows out?

I'm of the belief that when it comes to voting for someone I have no suspicion of and someone who is contributing nothing to the game, voting the latter is the better option. On Day 1 I didn't have any suspicions, so I would be forcing any reason I had to vote someone.

I'm not liking Boo's Timmer vote. It feels NO U-y, and doesn't make sense coming right after his campaign against LC and Nutella. I'll go ahead and vote Boo for now.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.
DFaraday would rather vote a no-show over someone he doesn't suspect. That's fine, but it should also mean that he'd rather vote someone he suspects over a no show. Yet here he is on Day 3 supporting lynches for no-shows when he's got a suspect in boo. He voted him yesterday. Now he's not a consideration. Why?
Because I'm not consistent? Most people aren't.

I know Boo can't go into do much detail for fear of role outing and such, but I really don't know what exactly it is he thinks I know. Since Eloh was confident of Tink from Day 1, I figured her being bad was the most likely way she'd know a civ alignment.

I was going to vote Boo for leading a lynch on me, then realized I still have a potential chance, so I'm sticking with Wilgy.

But what happened that moved boo from earning your vote to entertaining no-posters as an option again?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:08 pm RIP. Chrome ate my post. Time to retype.

Right now, I have tonal pings from both DDL and Boo though I'm unsure the direct cause. I don't think Boo is on a team with Hazelnut. I want to see where the Boo suspicion goes and see thier thoughts on having the vote lead.

I'd say put both DF and Timmer on the chopping block again for their shitty votes last cycle. Timmer's vote now has high momentum. He and Boo are probably not on a team.

Anyone wanna tie Mac and Dom, and have them fight to the death as they aren't here lol? Also now that I have some hindsight, it kinda sucks that TSP died right as he entered the game. Probably should have saved him rgardless of the alignment. Oh well, wasn't here.
Sorry, you've made me one of your top suspects because I voted for a (at the time) no-show, then in the same post propose trying to get the other no-shows out?

I'm of the belief that when it comes to voting for someone I have no suspicion of and someone who is contributing nothing to the game, voting the latter is the better option. On Day 1 I didn't have any suspicions, so I would be forcing any reason I had to vote someone.

I'm not liking Boo's Timmer vote. It feels NO U-y, and doesn't make sense coming right after his campaign against LC and Nutella. I'll go ahead and vote Boo for now.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm I would be fine with voting Tink or Dom, as they haven't contributed as of yet. If Dys doesn't offer something again soon, I'd say get her out as well. Eloh at least has, although I think it's bizarre that she keeps insisting that Tink is good, when I don't see how she could know that so early in the game.

DFaraday would rather vote a no-show over someone he doesn't suspect. That's fine, but it should also mean that he'd rather vote someone he suspects over a no show. Yet here he is on Day 3 supporting lynches for no-shows when he's got a suspect in boo. He voted him yesterday. Now he's not a consideration. Why?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:02 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:26 pm I'm not fine with putting such a strategy together based solely on one person's preferences. If Jack wants a list, let's all submit five or six names and select the ones that appear the most. If the plan can indeed thumb the scale in our favor, then it's too important to be nonchalant about picking names.
I agree. I don't even know some of the people on Jack's list. Although I'm really not crazy about this plan, since there's every chance we could end up empowering one or more baddies, who then will immediately take out their fellow power roles. Furthermore, if Mew/Mewtwo are part of the Oceanic Six, we'll spend the game funneling points into a black hole.

I think it might be more effective to allot points this round to a group of six, as suggested, then rotate on future rounds so that other players can get powers. Granted, this strategy pretty much ensures giving Mafia powers, but it would also keep an array of civvie powers in play even if Mafia start NKing power roles.

Here was DF's stance on the allocation of evo points. He's of the opinion that giving the baddies powers is a necessary evil.

It reads way OTT. I strongly believe exclamation marks are among the most disingenuous of punctuations.

It's also a pretty classic example of feeling the need to say something.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:18 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:33 pm Oh wow. Good job, Sprit voters!
This is the first time DF mentions spirit in the game.

i had a mysterious muscle spasm just now and voted for dfaraday by accident

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:15 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:00 pm Okay, so people are still being bullheaded, so I'll just dump it. DF took his best shot and failed now anyways (suck it), so I'll make it as clear as I can:

At the time Eloh was lynched, there were two possibilities. She had a type of role (almost definitely civ, occasionally indie) that she loves, and often has in Epi games, or Tink has it and had targeted Eloh early on. I believe anyone who has played with Eloh in such a game where she had a role like that would know what was going on. I am certain DF fits the bill there. And he voted for her. He's bad. He voted for her and risked that 1) because it was a reasonable risk, lots of people wouldn't know this I imagine, 2) people who do know it don't like to bring up this style of meta-ness, 3) people who do know it are people who he wanted to NK anyways, so he got rid of them.

La was also part of that tink/Eloh group of people tink targeted. My best guess is, given the numbers, she had 1 other use and that person is already dead. Probably NKed early on. I think the reason tink has gone mia is a lack of interest given people she trusted are all dead. And maybe another possibility, but that's not important.

Anyways, la wanted to lynch DF because she knew it. I've picked it up.

As for teammates. Wilgy and quin are my top two choices. But I still want to lynch DF first, because I'm confident about him.
You honor your avatar, sir.

I feel like I've become obsolete with him around.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:11 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:06 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:17 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 pm I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?
I think people wised up and put away their Jump To Conclusions mats. Timmer got votes because of meta and Boo got votes because enough people bought into the idea that he was maliciously twisting Nutella's words. Neither one is a great reason to lynch someone on Day 2, but hey- it happened.
That and spirit voted for in that, iirc. And was one of the last ones to. Not an especially smart bussing if I was his teammate that early on, because it offers 0 cred.
Cool. I didn't know sprityo voted for you. I can't find you and timmer in the polls thread.

ebwop

boo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:06 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:17 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 pm I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?
I think people wised up and put away their Jump To Conclusions mats. Timmer got votes because of meta and Boo got votes because enough people bought into the idea that he was maliciously twisting Nutella's words. Neither one is a great reason to lynch someone on Day 2, but hey- it happened.
That and spirit voted for in that, iirc. And was one of the last ones to. Not an especially smart bussing if I was his teammate that early on, because it offers 0 cred.

Cool. I didn't know boo voted for you. I can't find you and timmer in the polls thread.

I am not sure where I'm voting. Before now I'd say boo, but through all this I've been able to see his posts a different way. He and I have never actually interacted yet, so I could stand to flesh that read out more.

I probably won't vote for DDL, Wilgy and Dizzy. DDL and Wilgy I've got town reads on, and I can dig Dizzy's angle-shoot.

When I thought about tying the vote yesterday, I'd have voted for G-Man. It's just the name that kept coming up in my head. It's a different G-Man than I'm used to, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen him roll scum. He's an option. Still would like to talk through some more options.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 pm I think it was Nutella's overreaction to Boo's misinterpretation that conflated their spat and made Boo an easy target. Neither one wanted to back down, so it just got worse for both of them. Boo was taking it too far, which is why he drew the vote fire.

So you're saying that boo was just in a tunnel?

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:35 pm I saw some truth in Boo's posts. Nutella was being inconsistent. Boo just interpreted it to the next level. That's how I saw it anyway.

Can you elaborate?

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:17 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 pm I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?
I think people wised up and put away their Jump To Conclusions mats. Timmer got votes because of meta and Boo got votes because enough people bought into the idea that he was maliciously twisting Nutella's words. Neither one is a great reason to lynch someone on Day 2, but hey- it happened.

Was he not maliciously twisting nutellas words? Doesn't sound like a terrible reason to vote for someone at any point.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 pm I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?
Idk, his interactions with Sprityo proved that he's probably not a teammate, but his recent activity has me second guessing myself.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:13 am The actions of mafia are full of manipulation and lies.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:30 am
Quin wrote:Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm I recall a lot of mechanics talk by Luffy in the beginning of ASOUE, and he was town. I don't think it's odd for him.
I'm a tournament pokemon player.

Im having a field day with this game.
Speaking of which, when will the next VGC format be announced?

@Domoquin, have you finished forming a read of me? Do you have any questions? what do you think?

I'm still down for murking the ever-missing Dizzy. This shit's getting ridiculous.
I did just now. My only real qualm is that I don't understand how sprityo's lack of condemnation of low-posters influences your read on Dizzy. Can you elaborate on how Dizzy is a compatible teammate?

As for you, I'm content with a light town read. You don't steer me any which way, but the lack of pings on Day 6 is a point in your favour.
Unless I missed something, Sprityo and Dizzy never interacted and that makes me slightly concerned.

DF claims that I was chummy with Sprityo, but I don't see it as Sprityo's ISO seemed consistently chummy with all of his interactions (perhaps there's some bias in there). This makes me think the inconsistencies he would have had when interacting with teammates were hidden by avoiding them all together.

Not that that seals the deal on Dizzy, more so I think it validates my want to elimimate the wallflowers he didn't even interact with. You and Mac would be included in that, but you seem to be wanting to be more involved and Mac is one of the players I think I have a good read on.

I was hoping for a minute there you'd have more posts of mine to discuss.

I remember that DFaraday more or less just said 'cool' to my case on boo when I initially posted it, and said he'd look into his votes which hasn't come to anything yet. It was only a disappointment then, but it's 'helped' reassure me in my read of boo, which I could do to hold off on to figure out how I feel about DFaraday.

@DFaraday, did you ever look through boo yourself? What did you think?

Wilgy, I got to page 2 of your ISO and still didn't have anything to talk about. That did annoy me, because you mentioned how you thrive better when there's stuff to talk about with you.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:11 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:33 pm Anyway, I'm probably going to die anyway since it's public knowledge that I'm getting at least two evo votes
Sounds like a pity party, sorry Nutella.

They way you're going about dying is misleading in its own light. I mean you're saying that you're FOR SURE, 100% getting two evo points. If that's not a grab for attention, then I don't know what is. You're placing yourself on the very precarious town pedestal where if you don't die you become supa-town or highly suspicious mafia. But like you can't back your claims up with anything until you actually evolve. We don't have a way to confirm how many evo points you actually got. Or at least I assume?

What I'm getting at is stop doing that, and focus on solving the game instead of where YOU sit in it.

In reference to your suspicions however
boo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:00 pm [quote=nutella post_id=363207 time=<a href="tel:1498585942">1498585942</a> user_id=262]
As I see it, (since I didn't vote for one of them on night 0) I am voting for three different people on the first three nights of the game, which is as much "spreading" as is possible up to that point. After night 2, I will re-evaluate whether I want to stay in the pact or not, and I may well vote for someone else anyway. Get off my case, I'm just playing the game.
Oh, so you're giving your word to be part of a long term plan, which by your own logic is something baddies would be looking to do, and you're already planning ahead to when you'll break it. Cool.

What boo has said here is Definitely twisting of words and looks awful. If not that then it's jumping to conclusions/assuming things in a negative light. Nutella put forth a decent plan to assign her votes and you just said nope "this is what you're actually going to do, even though I can't tell what you're thinking." It's a bad strategy and I suggest you stop arguing it and accept that you did something bad before you get yourself lynched. If you have a problem with being lynched that is

sprityo condemns boo for his actions, but stops short of actually indicating suspicion. I did bold an exception, but that reads more of a 'this looks bad in a vacuum' type of analysis. I am intrigued by sprityo's choice of words. To call boo's opinions a 'strategy' gives me reason to think that boo's mindset is fabricated.
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Bringing this poorly quoted paragraph up again. I bolded the entire paragraph of what I'm talking about. I am most interested in thoughts about sprityo's use of words. He called boo's thoughts on nutella a 'strategy' which is never something I would call civ behaviour.

I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?

boo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:42 am I still want to lynch DF. He knows why.

I don't.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:29 am I think most likely scenario is a miss. Possibly whoever is Mew has a protection ability of some kind.

It could be a miss, but everyone but Tink and Dizzy were around Night 6, so it's unlikely. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tink and Dizzy can't both be bad if this is the case, because they've both been gone for ages and night kills kept coming in after sprityo died. If it's a miss then someone posted but forgot to send in their night action.

It's very likely not an intentional miss to make us look at absentees, because again, everyone (bar the two) were here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:13 am The actions of mafia are full of manipulation and lies.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:30 am
Quin wrote:Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm I recall a lot of mechanics talk by Luffy in the beginning of ASOUE, and he was town. I don't think it's odd for him.
I'm a tournament pokemon player.

Im having a field day with this game.
Speaking of which, when will the next VGC format be announced?

@Domoquin, have you finished forming a read of me? Do you have any questions? what do you think?

I'm still down for murking the ever-missing Dizzy. This shit's getting ridiculous.

I did just now. My only real qualm is that I don't understand how sprityo's lack of condemnation of low-posters influences your read on Dizzy. Can you elaborate on how Dizzy is a compatible teammate?

As for you, I'm content with a light town read. You don't steer me any which way, but the lack of pings on Day 6 is a point in your favour.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:59 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:51 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm If we're thinking it's a missed nightkill, Tink and Dizzy come to mind first. Tink's been gone since Night 1, and Dizzy never posted during the night. I think everyone else did, though I'll verify that.
Quin. Your drunk. Go home.
the thread title didn't get updated to show 'Night 5' when you posted

plz 4giv

rule out boo in some hypothetical where the baddies missed a kill as well k

ill stop embarrassing myself now

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:53 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm If we're thinking it's a missed nightkill, Tink and Dizzy come to mind first. Tink's been gone since Night 1, and Dizzy never posted during the night. I think everyone else did, though I'll verify that.
We've been getting kills every night up until now though. I guess Tink could have been sending kills up to this point, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

i'm not sure who's ISO i was looking at when I said Dizzy had posted up until now. i may as well be drunk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:51 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm If we're thinking it's a missed nightkill, Tink and Dizzy come to mind first. Tink's been gone since Night 1, and Dizzy never posted during the night. I think everyone else did, though I'll verify that.
Quin. Your drunk. Go home.

the thread title didn't get updated to show 'Night 5' when you posted

plz 4giv

boo and Wilgy also didn't post during the night.

If we're thinking it's a missed nightkill, Tink and Dizzy come to mind first. Tink's been gone since Night 1, and Dizzy never posted during the night. I think everyone else did, though I'll verify that.

Well that's nice.

I recall a lot of mechanics talk by Luffy in the beginning of ASOUE, and he was town. I don't think it's odd for him.

That's in reference to your sprityo vote, by the by. Is it not baddie compatible for a teammate to vote for sprit at a time where he'd taken practically zero heat the entire game thus far?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:19 pm That's a very useful graph G-Man. Thank you for taking the time to make it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:49 pm I'm gonna keep the meta theory that Mac is civ when he is being rude and unlikable.

In the one game where I caught him as scum, he was being civil and likable.

So he's probably a civ here.
I can point to many of my Mafia games where I was bad and a prick.

Just out of curiosity which was the scum game that you caught me in that I was being nice?

That being said, this is a play at emotions. What about my posting in this game has been "rude and unlikable"? Was it the part where I have a scum read on you?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:54 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:35 pm
boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am Hey everyone. Try actually reading what la said before she died and go, "derp, lets obviously lynch DF now."

She did the work for you. And we still can't get it done? For real?
If by work you mean "point out when Sprit correctly said I wasn't on the chopping block", then yeah, she did the work. I wouldn't even call what he said defending me.

Mac raises some intriguing ideas about DDL. I've been reading him as civ all game, mainly because he contributes a lot. I'm still leaning for a Wilgy lynch right now though.
On a scale of 1 to 10: how does your opinion of me depend on other people making "intriguing" reads of me, specially if they are voting for me near the end of the day?
I don't understand this post. Who voted for you near the end of the day? Is 1 a lot or 10? How much or how? It's a weird post.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:07 pm Reading back over my own posts, I'm inclined to side with boo and say I'd be interested in a DFaraday lynch. I remember reading back through Sprityos posts Mac and DFaraday stood out as people sprit was possibly defensive of.
And then I voted to lynch Sprityo in such a way as to not earn any credit for it. Intelligent move.

Another example of MacDougall talking about how unreasonable it is to suspect him in the context of something that's actually very reasonable to suspect him for.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:07 pm Reading back over my own posts, I'm inclined to side with boo and say I'd be interested in a DFaraday lynch. I remember reading back through Sprityos posts Mac and DFaraday stood out as people sprit was possibly defensive of.

What do you think of the things I had to say about boo?

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am Hey everyone. Try actually reading what la said before she died and go, "derp, lets obviously lynch DF now."

She did the work for you. And we still can't get it done? For real?

I still can't figure out who la is.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:33 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:29 pm Even better lol bie
I'm Dom2.0.
tbh dom 1.0 is far superior and less buggy

I'm not buggy, I'm quirky!

I do think boo would just be the better overall option, though.

I'm having a crisis about whether to force a tie to save a gut town read.

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:59 pm I just watched fireworks. Not great ones, because Pennsylvania bans good fireworks. Battery at 3%. I'm going to vote for Fred because he was on my original suss list. I suspect he's probably the indy, though. Check y'all when I can plug in. This day was a royal mess. We need to do a lot of talking tonight and lay out a lot of reads with reasons.

Why Fred over others on your original sus list? If I'm looking at the right post, a number of them are still alive.

A quick rainbow. There's a lot of gut involved so I intend to check them and adjust based on what I find. I find that I've got a lot of null reads still so I might go through my neutral reads individually at some point. I do have some notes, I guess.

Fredwood
Tink - I'm taking Eloh's insistence that Tink is town into account. She was an evolved psychic type, which is the type I'd most associate info-gathering or likewise powers with.
Dragon D. Luffy

DrWilgy - I'm least impressed with my own placement here, because he's contributed enough to have a proper read on. He'll be the first I look at in more detail.
Dyslexicon
DFaraday
Neverwhere

MacDougall - Just the one instance I found, but he's not been here enough to give me more avenues to read him.
G-Man - I'm seeing a different G-Man in this game than usual. I realise he's a lot busier than usual which could be responsible, but I'm still a bit iffy overall.
boo - I've said a bit about him in the past few pages. I think he makes a compatible teammate for sprityo, and his own argument against nutella reads phony to me.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:00 pm
DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:57 pm Quin, why boo?
I just said stuff about him last night. I think it's on the last page.

Page before last. Woops.

Rainbow list incoming.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:57 pm Quin, why boo?

I just said stuff about him last night. I think it's on the last page.

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:45 pm If we all end up voting for different people for an 11-way tie, I'm gonna cry.

best idea ever

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