The Syndicate

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:06 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:08 am I've never played with Kate. Hi Kate!

Kate has been generating reads, but the vast majority of them are developed in reaction to other's posts. Very little proactive scum hunting is happening. I'm seeing this as a scum doing the rounds to respond to lots of prompts, but not generating anything new of her own accord.

Can you comment on this, @Kate ?

I don't think operating off of others' leads is alignment indicative; that's typically how I play regardless of alignment.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:17 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:38 pm I don't have enough time to dig through Day 2 ISO's, so these are at-a-glance notes on the poll:

- Kate's DH vote is an OMGUS. Night 2 posts scream 'not teammates'.
- DH's DH vote is DH. DH. DH. DH's DH DH. Potential NP candidate with a flair for the dramatic.

- Sloonei's LoRab vote justified with it "making more sense", immediately after Wilgy switches to me. What made more sense?
- G-Man's LoRab vote gave the Moderator power over the lynch before Wilgy's switcheroo. Can't read alignment off this, but pretty awful reasoning.

- llama votes Quin and is the anti-Sloonei. Sloonei says I'm good regardless of what llama says. llama says I'm bad regardless of what Sloonei says. Definitely not temmies, unless the point is to keep me in the forefront as a failsafe if a different teammate gets too much heat.
- Wilgy votes Quin because ???. He also discourages ties. But Wilgy loves ties, it is know-en. Licks.

- sig didn't vote. His last post says "we should be looking out for those who don't vote as the NP target". Potential NP target.

Outcomes of this are that either sig or DH was the NP target, Wilgy looks worse, G-Man has earned greater attention from me, there is Kate/DH and llama/Sloonei spaghetti to be untangled, but up to 2 mafia in that lot.

Valid observation in pink. I'd also say off the way D2 went down that I have a hard time seeing DH and Golden being w/w. That stuff got too deep and awkward to be contrived.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:16 pm I’m also all on board of not making the decisions today. I conducted the train on LoRab and I was wrong. So now I’m just a paying train customer.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:47 pm I can see a Wilgy/GMan pairing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:25 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:00 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:54 pm FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

I think my issue is mostly that you're pretty much the only person vouching for me, which is a really easy stance for scum to take when there's a very vocal wagon adjacent to it. What I need you to be doing is developing your other reads so that you're offering something actionable and not just a token read of me. I know you have been doing this throughout the night so I'll get to those posts when I can.

If anyone was worried, medical emergency stuff is under control. Not good stuff for the morbidly curious:

Spoiler: show

Nan had a UTI that went septic and spread to her heart, so she had a heart episode at home. She's now at the hospital on antibiotics and under close watch. She is furious because she doesn't like hospitals.

Let’s talk about the other side of this coin.

I have been the only one vouching for you. What do you think of the heavy pressure you’ve been under?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:00 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:54 pm FYI it took two days of being on the chopping block for Sloonei to ask literally anything of me.

Do you not believe that I could be reading you as town right now?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:41 pm Having @Quin’s thoughts on EoD 2 would be groovy.

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:26 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:17 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:30 pm I'm not sure if Quin is on LoraB for the same reasons as Scotty.

Spoiler: show

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:08 am

Spoiler: show

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.

oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite

Did you just role claim a mafia role?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:25 am [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in

If pointing out a strange post makes me seem suspish to you, I’m ok with that.

These two posts go together. LoRab thinks this jokey scum claim from Scotty is alignment indicative (a later post clarifies this somewhat). I'm okay with that.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Follows from the above, but I am confused at the "looking for votes as a civ thing" part. Need her to explain this.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

Her conclusion from all this is that he's town, because scum reading LoRab in this game is a thing civilians do. But also, Scotty could be scum because 'switcheroo'. Do you think you deserve to be scum read, LoRab? I do.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:47 pm I am not going to, but tempted to vote axehole, because he doesn’t seem to honor at all the way other people play, and not adapting to the way many of us are used to. Which is frustrating, and I’m trying not to let me suspect him because I’m annoyed. Similar with VIVA.

This post may as well have not been made. It has nothing to do with the game.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 pm Voting Bea.

[VOTE: Bea] aubergine

I don’t suspect her much, but I don’t have a read on her yet. And I want her to come out and play more.

Give me a better reason than this for why you voted bea, please. The last two posts set you up to look like you were making the most inoffensive vote possible.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Revising what I said before. I misremembered this post as LoRab talking about not wanting to explain her town reads, which I thought was a bad look because she lacked the clout needed for scum to want to react to them. Now reading it again, that's all because Scotty specified town reads in his ISO. What a nugget. I'm not concerned if she's holding back on her scum reads.

I still have absolutely no idea what is going on in LoRab's head besides "Scotty could be either good or bad".

Not repeating Scotty's ISO in here, I agree with all of it. You said you have more time, so I'd appreciate you using it to respond to this, and provide reads. [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:46 pm I’m gonna identify a pattern for you.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:23 am Popping in. I’ll be driving most of the day, and so I can do so safely, will not be posting and driving. But I will try to check in on stops.

Note well use adverb above, as well as in this sentence.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:38 pm Home from work. Just finished reading through the rest of day. And don’t worry—I’m going to vote. There’s over 20 minutes left. Why rush?

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:02 pm I'm here!! Went to bed before the results posted last night (because I'm an old person). RIPIYWG (nd you probably were), Splints. (and yes, I know that all of the night victims are likely civ, but I make no assumptions--assumptions are dangerous in this game). And sorry that this post is kind of all over the place.

Splints is a good player, and so I can see why she'd be a N1 target for mafia. Especially if one of the players is someone whom she historically has been able to read. Now I need to remember who that could be. And, mafia knows that anyone not on their team is civ, so is a good target no matter what.

And I should have a normal-er schedule now, so can post more regularly. And maybe actually get reads on people.

Also, I swear that I totally submitted a song for the contest, but now that message seems to have disappeared, and it's super weird. And I'm curious where it went to.

Looking at the visible night results, Kate was Greened and Bea was somethinged. Not knowing what role/circumstance had that effect on Bea, hard to say if that's good or bad. I disagree with whomever said it was a result of the map poll--since she wasn't the only Canada voter, but seems to be the only one whose posts have been altered. And she even said (I think?) that it wasn't Vompatti.

I have more thoughts and I'll remember them later.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Anyone else noticing the pattern?

Spoiler: show

It’s full of excuses.

Now I want to preface that I know she has outlined her time constraints. Everyone has a life outside the game. But the excuses are starting to add up and there’s nothing to show with it. All of her posts have been real nothing burgers and she’s obviously reading along because she’s made multiple comments like “did he just claim mafia” and “it’s weird that JJJ is voting” and yet “I have no reads” or “I have town reads but don’t want to give the mafia any ideas”

I expect more…something substantive at this point.

What do you have to say about Scotty and my ISO's of LoRab?

I would like to know why you used him as your lynchpin for your LoraB vote. His ISO is too vast for you to say you agree with all of it imho.

I have written why I think he‘s town already.

Wouldn‘t say my vote is supposed to be a high confidence vote. I think that creating certain blocks in the VC can be beneficial.

Your EoD was sort of cheeky I guess and I don‘t find your rationale for voting with Scotty that convincing for now

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:30 pm I'm not sure if Quin is on LoraB for the same reasons as Scotty.

Spoiler: show

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:08 am

Spoiler: show

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.

oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite

Did you just role claim a mafia role?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:25 am [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in

If pointing out a strange post makes me seem suspish to you, I’m ok with that.

These two posts go together. LoRab thinks this jokey scum claim from Scotty is alignment indicative (a later post clarifies this somewhat). I'm okay with that.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Follows from the above, but I am confused at the "looking for votes as a civ thing" part. Need her to explain this.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

Her conclusion from all this is that he's town, because scum reading LoRab in this game is a thing civilians do. But also, Scotty could be scum because 'switcheroo'. Do you think you deserve to be scum read, LoRab? I do.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:47 pm I am not going to, but tempted to vote axehole, because he doesn’t seem to honor at all the way other people play, and not adapting to the way many of us are used to. Which is frustrating, and I’m trying not to let me suspect him because I’m annoyed. Similar with VIVA.

This post may as well have not been made. It has nothing to do with the game.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 pm Voting Bea.

[VOTE: Bea] aubergine

I don’t suspect her much, but I don’t have a read on her yet. And I want her to come out and play more.

Give me a better reason than this for why you voted bea, please. The last two posts set you up to look like you were making the most inoffensive vote possible.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Revising what I said before. I misremembered this post as LoRab talking about not wanting to explain her town reads, which I thought was a bad look because she lacked the clout needed for scum to want to react to them. Now reading it again, that's all because Scotty specified town reads in his ISO. What a nugget. I'm not concerned if she's holding back on her scum reads.

I still have absolutely no idea what is going on in LoRab's head besides "Scotty could be either good or bad".

Not repeating Scotty's ISO in here, I agree with all of it. You said you have more time, so I'd appreciate you using it to respond to this, and provide reads. [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:46 pm I’m gonna identify a pattern for you.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:23 am Popping in. I’ll be driving most of the day, and so I can do so safely, will not be posting and driving. But I will try to check in on stops.

Note well use adverb above, as well as in this sentence.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:38 pm Home from work. Just finished reading through the rest of day. And don’t worry—I’m going to vote. There’s over 20 minutes left. Why rush?

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:02 pm I'm here!! Went to bed before the results posted last night (because I'm an old person). RIPIYWG (nd you probably were), Splints. (and yes, I know that all of the night victims are likely civ, but I make no assumptions--assumptions are dangerous in this game). And sorry that this post is kind of all over the place.

Splints is a good player, and so I can see why she'd be a N1 target for mafia. Especially if one of the players is someone whom she historically has been able to read. Now I need to remember who that could be. And, mafia knows that anyone not on their team is civ, so is a good target no matter what.

And I should have a normal-er schedule now, so can post more regularly. And maybe actually get reads on people.

Also, I swear that I totally submitted a song for the contest, but now that message seems to have disappeared, and it's super weird. And I'm curious where it went to.

Looking at the visible night results, Kate was Greened and Bea was somethinged. Not knowing what role/circumstance had that effect on Bea, hard to say if that's good or bad. I disagree with whomever said it was a result of the map poll--since she wasn't the only Canada voter, but seems to be the only one whose posts have been altered. And she even said (I think?) that it wasn't Vompatti.

I have more thoughts and I'll remember them later.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Anyone else noticing the pattern?

Spoiler: show

It’s full of excuses.

Now I want to preface that I know she has outlined her time constraints. Everyone has a life outside the game. But the excuses are starting to add up and there’s nothing to show with it. All of her posts have been real nothing burgers and she’s obviously reading along because she’s made multiple comments like “did he just claim mafia” and “it’s weird that JJJ is voting” and yet “I have no reads” or “I have town reads but don’t want to give the mafia any ideas”

I expect more…something substantive at this point.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:46 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:18 am

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:08 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.

oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite

Did you just role claim a mafia role?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:25 am [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in

If pointing out a strange post makes me seem suspish to you, I’m ok with that.

These two posts go together. LoRab thinks this jokey scum claim from Scotty is alignment indicative (a later post clarifies this somewhat). I'm okay with that.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Follows from the above, but I am confused at the "looking for votes as a civ thing" part. Need her to explain this.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

Her conclusion from all this is that he's town, because scum reading LoRab in this game is a thing civilians do. But also, Scotty could be scum because 'switcheroo'. Do you think you deserve to be scum read, LoRab? I do.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:47 pm I am not going to, but tempted to vote axehole, because he doesn’t seem to honor at all the way other people play, and not adapting to the way many of us are used to. Which is frustrating, and I’m trying not to let me suspect him because I’m annoyed. Similar with VIVA.

This post may as well have not been made. It has nothing to do with the game.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 pm Voting Bea.

[VOTE: Bea] aubergine

I don’t suspect her much, but I don’t have a read on her yet. And I want her to come out and play more.

Give me a better reason than this for why you voted bea, please. The last two posts set you up to look like you were making the most inoffensive vote possible.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Revising what I said before. I misremembered this post as LoRab talking about not wanting to explain her town reads, which I thought was a bad look because she lacked the clout needed for scum to want to react to them. Now reading it again, that's all because Scotty specified town reads in his ISO. What a nugget. I'm not concerned if she's holding back on her scum reads.

I still have absolutely no idea what is going on in LoRab's head besides "Scotty could be either good or bad".

Not repeating Scotty's ISO in here, I agree with all of it. You said you have more time, so I'd appreciate you using it to respond to this, and provide reads. [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Do I “deserve” to be suspected? I mean, i don’t think I’ve ever played and not been suspected. Especially on here.

Indeed, I don’t have many reads. It’s day frigging 2 and I haven’t played in a while. Also, I tend to think more about mechanics than read early in games. Mainly because my reads on people come largely from pattern recognition of individual’s posts, which takes time.

To define terms: switchers= OMGUS. In the mafia culture I learned in, of which this site came from, that was the standard term.

Civvie roles that want to get voted out (often day 1) are not uncommon. And fake slipping is a way that role is often played.

I voted Bea because I usually read her fairly easily, but I don’t have a read on her yet. So I wanted her to know she has my eyeball on her.

I’m civ. I get that I’ve been quiet and that I don’t currently have strong reads. I also know that my style often reads bad on this site. I had thought maybe that would be the case in this old timers game, but here we are.

Im civv. Don’t know how to prove that or convince anyone of that. But none of what has been said about me is allignment indicative. It’s just me.

And, because someone will call me out if I don’t. Eye me all you want.

I unfortunately have yet to see you have any reads. This is different from your annoyance at being suspected for not having strong or many reads.
You even clarify that you don’t even have a read for bea, the only real person you’ve shown opinion for.

Furthermore, I don't see evidence in the thread of you thinking about mechanics either.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:36 pm You guys will get there eventuallt.

oh thank Cthulhu I can finally role check you tonite

Did you just role claim a mafia role?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:25 am [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

For snipey pop-in

If pointing out a strange post makes me seem suspish to you, I’m ok with that.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:30 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:54 am

Do you sus Scotty for that ?

Not necessarily. I want to see how he responds.

Or with secrets in civvie roles, there’s also a chance he may be looking for votes as a civ thing.

So, really, I want to see how he responds.

Hi.

Here’s my response:

Really? That’s the hill you’re leading a charge on? Yikes.

I wasn't leading a charge. I was noticing a weirdness. But ok.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Lorab did indeed pop in, as Vivax pointed out, just to call attention to my joke post. That…sure is something. She needs to offer more than that.

Obviously, I didn't read it as a joke post--to be fair, I was reading the entire day's worth of posts, so I likely missed tone. And I will offer more--as I said in the sign ups, I was away for a long weekend, so didn't have much time to get into the game. And yesterday was traveling back home yesterday. As I'm sure you remember, you'll get plenty more from me.

I'm going to assume that you are a civ, and that you are reading me as bad because you are not. But, keeping in mind that it could be a switcheroo.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:47 pm I am not going to, but tempted to vote axehole, because he doesn’t seem to honor at all the way other people play, and not adapting to the way many of us are used to. Which is frustrating, and I’m trying not to let me suspect him because I’m annoyed. Similar with VIVA.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:52 pm Voting Bea.

[VOTE: Bea] aubergine

I don’t suspect her much, but I don’t have a read on her yet. And I want her to come out and play more.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:02 pm
@LoRab got any reads yet?

I don’t like how quiet it is. Suggests the mafia are under no real pressure at all. The game is coasting.

Not really. I’m not thinking about bea and kate until tomorrow. And really wanting to know what happened to bea. I have more players I feel good about than am suspish of. Which makes sense in terms of numbers, but is annoying. Not wanting to name who I feel goosed about because don’t want to help mafia. And not convinced the game secrets don’t contain weirdness that makes the allegiances less obvious than they seem.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:14 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:02 pm Quin remains town.

Your vague and unexplained reads are beginning to bum me out, salt shaker

This one I have explained multiple times. I plan to do so in greater detail if the suspicion persists.

thellama73 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:24 pm

thellama73 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:59 pm

thellama73 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:55 pm I continue to believe that the mafia are largely being quiet in order to let the civ devour themselves.

Is there anything specific that makes you feel this way?

Mainly just experience. It's a smart and historically effective strategy for them. If we are on the wrong track, what reason would they have to be super active and provide us with lots of chances to catch them in a slip up? There are some players (like Epignosis, for example) who can't help themselves and are always active even when they are mafia, but not many of those folks are in this game. DH is one who I would expect to be active even as mafia. But it's just a sense I'm getting from the general vibe of the thread and the players.

Unfortunately I think a lot of players have moved toward that Epi mold in recent years. Controlling the narrative is more important than sitting idly by and hoping civilians don’t find each other. Several players in this game would likely have moderate-to-high volume posts regardless of alignment: Golden, Scotty, Michelle, NAA, Quin, myself.

And yet Quin demonstrably hasn't.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:26 am I've decided to exist within my own realm.

I will be sheeping SIG as they are the tastiest.

All opposition to this will be ignored.

Hi Quin!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:54 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:49 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:48 am Quin has a similar style to me.

I was widely misread as a suspect yesterday.

Quin seems to be widely suspected today.

How do you feel about DH?

I have thoughts about DH. But I will have to express them more tomorrow when I’m not typing away on my phone in the dark while my wife tries to sleep

He has not ruffled my feathers yet. I admittedly have not taken any time to focus on any players in particular this game. Nearly all of my activity has been sitting around and engaging with the thread in real time.

I expect to fix that tomorrow afternoon.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:03 am My metaphorical vote remains on Quin… I want to see some substantial stuff. Not voting though until scotty confirms changeable votes.

I feel like it’s approaching time for me to rainbow list.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:32 pm I’m boomeranging back to [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Despite Sloonei having a firm Townread of him, I see nothing but entry level accounting going on.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:19 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:11 am Slight scum read: quin

I find it hard to buy that anyone can look at that Axe vote and genuinely think 'that's got substance'.

Go through the first two pages, up until Axe's post, and tell me just how much substance there is in the thread.

After making a designation that Axe’s random bea vote {on account of my dumb quote tell} had ‘substance’ he defends it with this…

Yes, there wasn’t much substance in the thread, and Axe just voting for bea…was supposed to be the first instance of substance? I don’t get it.

Layer in that he voted Elo, about 14 hours before end of day, bounced for the remainder of the day without adding anything else; but he made sure to pop in right after the poll closed to add absolutely nothing? Brazen. Tell me how that’s town play.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:28 am New read

slight town: Vivax

My first proper read on someone I don't know. I'm interested in meta reads.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:18 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:16 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:11 am How or why would someone genuinely read through both the Scotty discourse and the Eloh discourse and come away thinking I've been "posting but not saying anything"

It's almost too easy.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:55 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am Sike.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

He posts, yet he says nothing.

Then you've not read my posts.

So are you admitting to not having read my posts? Because I could pretty successfully argue there would be significantly less Eloh or Scotty discourse for you to have pretended to read through had it not been for me.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:11 am Slight scum read: quin

I find it hard to buy that anyone can look at that Axe vote and genuinely think 'that's got substance'.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:11 am How or why would someone genuinely read through both the Scotty discourse and the Eloh discourse and come away thinking I've been "posting but not saying anything"

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:55 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am Sike.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

He posts, yet he says nothing.

Then you've not read my posts.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:55 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am Sike.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

He posts, yet he says nothing.

Then you've not read my posts.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:41 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:16 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:45 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:37 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

I voted Bea.

I like Axe for this. The read itself is mixed up in a bunch of fluff (on Page 2 even, fluff city), but there's substance that most people skimming the thread would have looked over the first time. It's a no nonsense vote and it's super early in the game.

What is the substance?

Scotty has a problem with bea opening with a quote.

I see that about Scotty. It's not clear to me (especially given the rest of Aex's content) why Axe is voting for bea in this post. Plus, I'm pretty sure he didn't vote for bea. He just voted for Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:42 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:06 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:44 pm I am so excited!!! Thank you guys for making this happen!!

Great opening post...good luck all

I just can’t believe this post exists AND I’m replying to it.

oop, Golden also started by quoting another post.

Ruh roh raggy

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:45 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:37 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

I voted Bea.

I like Axe for this. The read itself is mixed up in a bunch of fluff (on Page 2 even, fluff city), but there's substance that most people skimming the thread would have looked over the first time. It's a no nonsense vote and it's super early in the game.

What is the substance?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:09 pm Alright, I'm here! It may take me a bit to get back into the groove of things, not that I ever had a really good groove with mafia. But, looking forward to some old-time fun!

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:26 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:55 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:31 am Votes should be expressed in the thread though, like this:
[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine

Let the little man whisper!

I will HAPPILY use an adverb, but it may take me a while to get used to the vote tag thing. Have patience.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:48 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:37 pm Right, so Sig is obviously mafia, right?

I would say it is something to consider.

I'm not a fan of changing votes. I like to take the day to interact and observe without being hasty.

Sig says votes are changeable. I don't see how he could have known this before voting. I can only find him sus right away as his hasty vote would most likely land on a civ.

Yeah if only there were a role that explicitly stated (hey look guys, adverb. I'm multitasking!) that votes were changeable.

Maybe Eloh missed that part, though. I guess if it were an indie role or a mafia role, and Eloh were a civ and had no reason to read up on the mafia/indie sides of things, that could be it.

But if that role were not an indie or mafia role, and Eloh were a mafia or an indie and would have reason to be more focused on that side of the board, I could see a world where Eloh might forgo reading up on the civ side of things.

So, rule number 5 says the "votes are changeable. MAYBE." Then, I did read the roles including Moveable Votes, but didn't understand it. I was looking at it like a RULE and not a ROLE, probably b/c I had been in the car all day traveling. But I just had a lightbulb moment looking back at it now after a good night's sleep! So, I definitely get it now.

I no longer suspect sig atm. We shall see what's to come.

methinks the baker might be baking up some sugar-free excuses here

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:19 pm In all seriousness, this Day 1 is going to be bizarre because I’m going to feel dirty eliminating a player that has made a triumphant return after a lengthy break only to be yeeted early.

I suppose I can take solace in the fact that rezz’s are in the game. But for day 1? It just feelsbadman.jpg

I guess we could always all just vote for dog lol

"yeet" and "yeeted" are not allowed in old school mafia games. Silly Scotty, yeets are for kids.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:29 am Y'all should know to give me a little leeway before suspecting me, especially when I've been away for so many years. Did you forget that I only married into intelligence? Though I overthink and internalize everything IRL, I'm ultimately a doer and not a thinker. That is why Epi and I mesh so well together.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:52 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:59 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:32 am And, I'm not lying about the role thing. I didn't understand the movable votes until I reread the roles this morning after reading DH's comments. I must have more tired than I thought last night b/c everything was much clearer this morning.

That’s fair. I often overanalyze roles in my pregame analysis and make bold assumptions that can be easily disproven with the obvious information given.

I think another part of your explanation that is still not swaying me, however, is the way you’ve presented your suspicion for sig in so many words, then just as succinctly dropped your suspicion for him without offering any other reads for other players. It’s very cookie-cutter apple pie and although it doesn’t lack logical progression, it does seem to lack that extra scoop of ice cream a-la-mode

First of all, I don't remember using "so many words." Second, there was not much to go on at the time of that post. I will most likely have more reads as the day goes on. But for DAY ONE, unless someone majorly slips, any reads are kind-of a shot in the dark. If I were to make a guess, though, I imagine that day 1 mafia players act like one of the following:
a) pretty quiet (laying low)
b) kind-of silly/off-topic (distracting from gameplay), or
c) hard core readers (they obviously know who isn't a part of their own)

This is what I am looking for. So far I have my eye on Scotty for reasons of letter (b).

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:50 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:12 pm

Spoiler: show

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:03 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:37 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:06 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:49 pm

Could you articulate your reasoning instead of putting the onus on me to do it for you?

Begrudgingly, sure, even though it’s only 20 posts back. I could probably flesh it out more.

It’s admittedly a pretty weak scumread, but the arguments that Elo had made agreeing with the suspicion of sig based on a mechanic that she hadn’t read, then recanting her suspicion upon learning said mechanic was rather safe. It wasn’t a slam dunk by any means. But then she reacts to my read of her with a long winded explanation that mafia will have certain qualities in D1. She lists them; then, she makes, in more or less words, an OMGUS on me using one of the bullet points “silly/off-topic (distracting from gameplay)” which is objectively a terrible statement. Sure, I’m perhaps silly as much as a pumpkin spice latte in spring, but you can still DRINK a pumpkin spice latte in spring I’m making gab, advancing gameplay. Am I not?

So you're voting for Eloh because she acted on a weak suspicion, backtracked on it nearly as soon as it was called out, and offered a "whatever sticks" explanation as to her actions?

Why is that not a slam dunk? Where is this hesitation and hedging coming from? Is she doing an OMGUS to you or are you doing an OMGUS to her?

It’s not a slam dunk because D1 reads are never slam dunks. I’m like the looney tunes when the monstars suck the power away. I need reveals to better get a sense for players.

This could very well just be a player personality that I’m reading too much into.

Though I wouldn’t call this hedging. I’m currently voting there

Maybe it's not a slam dunk bc he is scared to get it wrong. Or maybe it's not a slam dunk bc he is bad and just trying to make a semblance of a baddie read on someone to make it look like he is trying. This response looks very bad to me.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:38 pm I don’t really like the whole Elo vs Scotty thing. I do feel like Elo was a little quick to jump on sig who is an easy target, but as someone who almost never thoroughly reads the rules, I can wholeheartedly understand missing something like that. And in most cases wouldn’t it be easier for a mafia Elo to just leave that mild suspicion of sig out there instead. Scotty’s suspicion also seems quick to jump on something little.
Maybe I’ll reread it after the kids are asleep

kidS! Yay! How many now and what ages?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:14 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:52 pm [I imagine that day 1 mafia players act like one of the following:
a) pretty quiet (laying low)
b) kind-of silly/off-topic (distracting from gameplay), or
c) hard core readers (they obviously know who isn't a part of their own)

This is what I am looking for. So far I have my eye on Scotty for reasons of letter (b).

What does a Day 1 town player act like?

I think that civvie behavior on day 1 is more personalized than baddie behavior. For instance, if Blooper were here and she didn't make a single post on Day 1, I would not suspect her for it. But, if Pink were here and did not post on day 1, I think that would be something to keep an eye on. Unfortunately, there are three players here that I don't think I've ever played with, so they will probably escape a vote from me today unless something extreme happens.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:18 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:29 am Y'all should know to give me a little leeway before suspecting me, especially when I've been away for so many years. Did you forget that I only married into intelligence? Though I overthink and internalize everything IRL, I'm ultimately a doer and not a thinker. That is why Epi and I mesh so well together.

leeway
noun
1.
the amount of freedom to move or act that is available.

Do I understand coorect, you ask for a day 1 pass here?

Yes, that is correct. I am smart enough to look up the word before I post it as well If you knew me, you would know that it is classic Eloh to say five words and be suspected right out of the gate.

I am she. And I am eastern standard. 3:54pm atm.

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@Golden I never voted sig at all, btw. just talked about him in the thread. I don't like movable votes at all and I think Llama explained my thoughts on it very well, so I won't repeat.
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Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:33 pm @ Michelle

Judging from my perspective I don't consider others' reads except they are my town reads. Had Eloh said they town read Scotty and Golden? Because if not, why do you think they should post more and reconsider?

It left a bad impression that Eloh claimed to have found a reason to be sus on sig but went off when a few dropped opposite conclusions. Maybe I'm expecting too much from early pages but that would have made for a fine topic to ruffle some heads early on if I were them.

This really isn't that difficult folks. I misinterpreted the roles and thought no one KNEW if votes were movable or not yet. Then, I reread the roles after getting some much needed sleep and wah-la, I understood it!

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@thellama73 I don't have a civ game, remember?
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“@Golden I never voted sig at all, btw. just talked about him in the thread. I don't like movable votes at all and I think Llama explained my thoughts on it very well, so I won't repeat.”
Right, you said you weren’t one to vote early, but wholly offered that sig could be bad. That was your only read at the time. Tomato/potato.

“Maybe it's not a slam dunk bc he is scared to get it wrong. Or maybe it's not a slam dunk bc he is bad and just trying to make a semblance of a baddie read on someone to make it look like he is trying. This response looks very bad to me.”
Correct that I don’t want to get it wrong. I think I tend to struggle on correct D1 reads. But a broken clock is right twice a day, eh?

If I had edged off you, would that response have looked better? I’m just continuing to get OMGUS vibes here.

@Elohcin If you could vote someone right now, who would you vote? GTH, as they’d say

I actually felt like your response was you "edging off me", so I'm confused by the question. It's like you thought, "Shoot, I really could be wrong here so I'm going to back off and say that my theory wasn't a slam dunk," after driving it hard for so many posts. You backing off is what made me question your civ status further. You may say I did the same thing with sig (flippity-flop), but really it wouldn't be true. I made a couple comments, in a tired state, about sig being sus right before going to bed. Then, when I woke up and saw comments about it, I reread the rules and roles, had a derp moment, and backed off. I really think you just need to let that go and let us move on.

I hate GTH questions and refuse to answer them.

New read, Bea is civ bc she would know when day ends if she had BTSC.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:54 pm EBWOP: actually...if you really were scared you were wrong, then you'd have to be civ. It's getting close to my bedtime again. I'm useless in the evening and should not play mafia at this time. This is why I work during the first half of my day. I don't know what I think anymore.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

I voted Bea.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:39 pm I voted bea because
A) she is extremely cheery
B) she is the first in the poll
C) I don’t know if it’s pronounced “bay” or “bee” or “bah-ee”
But mainly e) her first post was quoting another post, which is suspicious.

Boom! Roasted.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:18 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:10 pm Just started work, so I can't wallpost or anything, but here's some takes:

Scotty's insistence on the Eloh scumread feels forced. Possible distancing. sig is a good boy if true.

Axe is a zero-faith townie, reminds me of Phenon where I just shat in everyone's cereal in some weird sussy town performance.

The bea train is garbage. Looking at that in more detail tonight.

Llama needs to explain his rainbow, The bit about me, specifically.

Possible distancing, huh? So you think Elo is bad then?

Yes, in that I think you're w/w. I want to expand on my independent reads on you both when I get home.

Cool. In the meantime, vote for Elo, my partner. Then we can go from there.

Although I’m not even certain Elo is the cat in the hat for the day, so to speak

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:14 pmQuin is town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:10 pm Just started work, so I can't wallpost or anything, but here's some takes:

Scotty's insistence on the Eloh scumread feels forced. Possible distancing. sig is a good boy if true.

Axe is a zero-faith townie, reminds me of Phenon where I just shat in everyone's cereal in some weird sussy town performance.

The bea train is garbage. Looking at that in more detail tonight.

Llama needs to explain his rainbow, The bit about me, specifically.

Possible distancing, huh? So you think Elo is bad then?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:15 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:10 pm Just started work, so I can't wallpost or anything, but here's some takes:

Scotty's insistence on the Eloh scumread feels forced. Possible distancing. sig is a good boy if true.

Axe is a zero-faith townie, reminds me of Phenon where I just shat in everyone's cereal in some weird sussy town performance.

The bea train is garbage. Looking at that in more detail tonight.

Llama needs to explain his rainbow, The bit about me, specifically.

I disagree entirely with your assessment of me.