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I'll look at whoever she replaced and get back to you. She herself hasn't done anything but go with the majority and I can't say anything definitive about that.Sloonei wrote:Cool. I am voting for Elohcin. Thoughts?
You've likely heard everything I've had to say on it, so I assume you're waiting on someone else. If not, just filter in his name on my ISO.Prisoner 509378 wrote:If nothing else I'm willing to play follower with the core I trust, but a little guidance would help (if it doesn't expose anyone).Prisoner 509378 wrote:Could one of Scotty's newest opponents give me some direction? I'm not vehemently opposed to the notion that he's a cop, but I haven't paid him as close attention as many others and I am a bit lost right now with regards to this stark change in climate.
yes plzS~V~S wrote:Quin what do you think of Scotty? You want me off your back and we can lynch him?
I didn't actually know that rainbow lists weren't appreciated here. And in zodiac, I think the argument was based on how early it came up, not the rainbow list in general. Correct me if I'm wrong.I just realized I forgot Quin in that analysis of Warden suspects. He should be included as a viable Warden I suppose. He's still pretty new to the site, but I checked Zodiac Mafia and there was some amount of Rainbow List Drama in that game because llama posted one. Quin has some basis of familiarity with them, and the drama stemming from that would be reason enough for him to make the "I understand you people like rainbows." joke in this thread.
Sloonei, would you put that WIFOMburger past Quin?
Never pick a fight with a prisoner, Scotty. You never know where he keeps his shivs.Scotty wrote:Sorry I've been away for a while. I'm in Cananda and have had a hard time getting WiFi while here.
I see while I was away Boomslang was revealed as good. That's infuriating tbh. This whole game has been infuriating.
Since my day absence, I see that SVS has turned the mirror back to me. Sig has jumped on board. Black Rock sees me suddenly as 1 of 2 cops. Chaindeath has even attempted to impugn me. What can I say? I'm lost. My Don has given me nothing of substance and I feel like I should have caught more at this point.
Where I thought it was laughable to consider Boomslang as good, I've found a very similar feel about chaindeath. Quin is constantly defended by Prisoner.
To answer SVS's tirade, who btw has been spraying a clean pathway with a power washer, I think Epi looks neutral. There's only like 3 people in this game that I can regard with certainty are not bad, but that's it.
I just took a look at him thus far in the game, and he's been favouring double and triple line breaks a lot more. I only see one case of a single line break.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think the other other applicable name in my suspect pool is Draconus (now known as Dom). He does admittedly have the tendency in his posts to use single line breaks as can be seen in that rainbow list.
When I say single line breaks I mean this.
No spaces between lines
Not like this.
With all of this now in mind, who is the mafia team?Prisoner 509378 wrote:To review:
I don't think sig and Quin are both cops. That would make very little sense to me. I think sig is much more likely to be a cop than Quin. Thus, I think Quin is town.
Soneji staunchly defended sig in the face of Epi's most recent case, and then he supported my fake case against Epi. Soneji is sig's team mate.
To make this easier, I may as well just give you an updated list of who I'd lynch including all of the people still alive. That'll get everything out in the open and give me more to talk about. I'll omit you, since you're pretty much confirmed indie. The rest is in order of who I'd lynch, in order.Prisoner 509378 wrote:How would you describe your feelings about the case against sig?
1) I don't see anything bad in this 'scum save' claim. He throws what could have come to be a significant amount of shade at Epi here, if we had taken that route. I haven't played long with sig, but I don't see him as a busser. I'll see where my thoughts go as I keep reading up on sig's posts, but right now I'd say that at if any, only one of the two are a policeman.Spoiler: show
4) This is a less noted area of significance. sig was partly responsible for every mislynch up until Turnip was supposed to be lynched. SVS doesn't cover Day 1, but sig voted for Diiny as well. It is very interesting how this pattern stopped as soon as this post was made by SVS.Spoiler: show
I was going to comment on this. What do I get out of this? I think the loser should like, kiss my feet or something.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Another question for you, Quin, while you work (this won't require much thought):
S~V~S and I have a bet going about your alignment. Am I going to have to bear the humiliation of my failure in my signature for an entire game because of you?
I really don't know. I stand by my claim that on her own, Black Rock looks bad. She doesn't look half as bad as she did before Boomslang was lynched, though.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Quin, are you maintaining a perspective that Black Rock and S~V~S should not be attached at the hip? I struggle to see any logical scenario in which they're not on the same team -- whether as cops or townies.
Er. Bad, I guess.Prisoner 509378 wrote:How would that make you feel?Quin wrote:People who promise information at night are more likely to be killed, from my experience.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
People who promise information at night are more likely to be killed, from my experience.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Whaddya mean?Quin wrote:I think I just triggered a death flag.
There are a LOT of if/when's involved, so forgive me if you think there's some discrepancy in here. I'll elaborate as much as you need. I'll likely have an update when night ends because everyone is connected in some way in my mind.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Quin, you're not a lynch I would favor in the next day phase. If you name me a gun-to-head cop team (every remaining baddie alive), that will be of interest to me. The same goes for anyone really, though certain people's lists might mean less.
I won't name my own list until I have some participation.
If you would be inclined to find said posts, I would. I would love a good case to be painted for me, for once.Soneji wrote:Are you wanting specific posts that gave me town vibes or something Quinn? I haven't paid particular attention to your posts but the general feeling I got when reading the ones I did was that your assessments were logical and genuine. I am not one to do any kind on detailed town read, I just go by gut. I have never been pinged by a post I have read by you.
I'd like you all to consider this post from Soneji:I'd also recommend having a look at any players yet to make a decision as to my alignment. I've been a major point of interest since EoD2. Anybody who has yet to come to a decision on that front reeks of disassociation and scumminess. As fate would have it, ika fits this category. I'm sure he's not the only one.
The only time Soneji has mentioned me at all in this thread is in Prisoner's GTH reads, where he wrote me off as town. You can infer he has me as a confident town read by this post, but there is absolutely zero justification as to his thought process here. I can't bring myself to believe he is being honest about his read of me. Rather, I don't think he has come to a decision at all. I don't think that looks good.Chaindeath, Draconus and Enrique/Boomslang are the ones I feel the strongest about as scumreads. Next level would be Serge and TH. Then Epi and Nero. llama, BR and Scotty are rather null reads. Rest I'm pretty confident as being town.
That's fine. I can wait.Black Rock wrote:I love you so much SVS.S~V~S wrote:She has 3 kids and 2 home businesses and a busy life. She did not have time. 509378s answers were pretty good and I endorse them
For Quin, I didn't see them, haven't seen them yet. I came in to make sure I voted on time before I started dinner. I just finished dinner and am just checking in before I help my 6 year old finish his crazy hat for crazy hat day. After he is showered and the two little ones are in bed hopefully I'll make it back and look it up. As I already said it's been a busy long weekend.
So, the one topic, yeah? And like I said, a joke.Dom wrote:the post i responded toQuin wrote:It was a joke. But I'd like to hear what topics you think I've been dancing around. You're weird, Domonugoose.Dom wrote:Yeah, you know that Kronk was working for Yzma in that movie, right?
As in the bad guy.
The guys who are bad.
The forces of evil.
The people out to get us.
Those guys.
My point is that you are needlessly elaborating to a make a point already made. You are nervously dancing around topics, and on a tone level, it reads you are bad.
I would like her cooperation in affirming that.S~V~S wrote:Well, I am sorry. But with utmost respect, you are barking up the wrong tree with a case on BR
I just checked, and he didn't answer them all.S~V~S wrote:She has 3 kids and 2 home businesses and a busy life. She did not have time. 509378s answers were pretty good and I endorse them
I didn't want 509 to answer them. I wanted her to answer them. That's the point.S~V~S wrote:I was afraid to, lol. I have ruined enough lives.Epignosis wrote:Hey Quin, I didn't get to you today. How does that make you feel?
Yeah, every day we seem to get steered off course. I hope you're wrong here, but I can't say that I disagree.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Theory:
The cop team is close enough to victory now that their top interest now is solely in lynching townies -- not distancing from team mates or bussing. I think this is a natural tendency for baddie teams when the finish line is in sight, or at least it has been for me.
Where is TH?
I am fairly sure 509378 answered them very well.Quin wrote:Why have you neglected to answer my questions I have for you?Black Rock wrote:I voted Boomslang. Long weekend was long and full of family fun. I'll get back into it come tomorrow. Boomslang needs to go today. I don't think we need to spread votes out on this.
Lonely.Epignosis wrote:Hey Quin, I didn't get to you today. How does that make you feel?
Why have you neglected to answer my questions I have for you?Black Rock wrote:I voted Boomslang. Long weekend was long and full of family fun. I'll get back into it come tomorrow. Boomslang needs to go today. I don't think we need to spread votes out on this.
It was a joke. But I'd like to hear what topics you think I've been dancing around. You're weird, Domonugoose.Dom wrote:Yeah, you know that Kronk was working for Yzma in that movie, right?
As in the bad guy.
The guys who are bad.
The forces of evil.
The people out to get us.
Those guys.
My point is that you are needlessly elaborating to a make a point already made. You are nervously dancing around topics, and on a tone level, it reads you are bad.
I needed this todayDom wrote:Quin wrote:Well, for starters my intentions are to catch all the baddies. And by baddies, I mean the police. Of course.
Where do you stand then, 509? Is Black Rock worth the vote or not?Prisoner 509378 wrote:S~V~S's treatment of Golden was more reasoned and explained, suggesting it was based on thread evidence. Her treatment of Black Rock is pretty much unexplained. I don't think it had to be three-way BTSC.
I do not know what SVS is known for, this is my first time properly playing with her. I made a point similar to that much earlier in the thread, however.Prisoner 509378 wrote:S~V~S is known as one of the site's most prolific bussers, yes? Fuzz would be an applicable example, yes?
I see your point, and I raise you a vote for Black Rock.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I dug.
S~V~S wrote:I have consistently said this the whole game. Make of that what you will. TBH, I should not have to keep saying itScotty wrote:Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!Turnip Head wrote:I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.S~V~S wrote:Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.
Yuoo suoond cunfeenced Bleck Ruck is nut bed, yet I hefee't seee uny reel reesun tu effffurm thet. Cuoold yuoo pueent me-a in zee durecshun ooff ifeedentiel inffurmeshunS~V~S wrote:I think lynching BR would be an EPIC mistake.
Do you mean this post, Prisoner? I don't think this post is enough to make that connection between them.S~V~S wrote:I would switch BR out of there for Quin, but yeah. Lotsa baddies.Prisoner 509378 wrote:sig = bad
chaindeath = bad
Boomslang = bad
Black Rock = bad
That should not have been something we fell for tbh.
Linki, yeah,maybe TH.
Why do you think that?Prisoner 509378 wrote:Black Rock can't be bad unless S~V~S is bad with her. You might want to explore that case too Quin.
This is the part of the second quote that come from Black Rock. I didn't realise the format would break.I'm willing to listen to you about Ika and will switch my vote to Ika. I understand where Epig is coming from, but I don't think Ika would kill Silverwolf, and if she's right then that would explain why they are both still alive. Just a feeling I get with the dynamics I have seen in this game.
Silverwolf is right. We are going to lose this game if we don't start lynching more cops.
I think this post is bullshit, by the way. This is Black Rock's only post in the entire thread that even mentions ika. The fact that she voted for him in the first post absolutely reeks of donuts.Spoiler: show
You know, I hadn't really considered what your reasons were for having such a solid scum read on me, so I took it upon myself to give you a quick ISO and filter in my name to find out. I was left...wanting.Black Rock wrote:Because they think they get me lynched.Quin wrote:Why are you still alive, Black Rock?Black Rock wrote:SVS often lasts a long time into games. People don't kill her.Scotty wrote:I'd like to pick door number 3 please, Monty.Quin wrote:I'm still alive because of my exuding charisma, I think.I'm not completely trusted by everyone yet.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Don't ask, but answer. Why are you still alive?Scotty wrote:Why am I still alive? I rarely last this long.
More importantly, why is SVS still alive? I think she is on most everyone's civ list, and I don't think she is a don.
Why are you still alive?
Never mind, don't bother answering that. It's because you're bad.
Understandable. You do not know me or my play style. Your post implies nothing thus far has caught your interest.Spoiler: show
I wonder what changed. Mind you, this was only a day later. I thought 'fair enough, another day, another viewpoint'. What catches my attention here is, much like chaindeath, a very sudden and unfounded scum read.Spoiler: show
Much like chaindeath, these are unfounded scum reads based off of unfounded logic. Is anybody able to comprehend this?Spoiler: show
This is my favourite one, because when I brought up the fact that Black Rock skipped 25 pages just to vote for me again with unsound reasons, I got scum read for it. I'm bringing it up again, because it's significant. The post implies that she had no intention of reading those 25 pages, and sounds like a perfect excuse to drop a vote and run.Spoiler: show
'I haven't even skimmed things'. Confirms that she didn't go back to read those pages. Admitting that she's ignoring information also confirms that she's not playing a civ game. But yeah, she's still trying to push her unfounded suspicion on me.Spoiler: show
Why are you still alive, Black Rock?Black Rock wrote:SVS often lasts a long time into games. People don't kill her.Scotty wrote:I'd like to pick door number 3 please, Monty.Quin wrote:I'm still alive because of my exuding charisma, I think.I'm not completely trusted by everyone yet.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Don't ask, but answer. Why are you still alive?Scotty wrote:Why am I still alive? I rarely last this long.
More importantly, why is SVS still alive? I think she is on most everyone's civ list, and I don't think she is a don.
