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To the first part, I think we would've had fun. To the second, you are lucky ika isn't here to read that.Matt wrote:I think we really would've hit it off in Downton btsc. In an alternate universe, we found each other and you ditched ika to be with me.
KMatt wrote:Lol.
I enjoy you, SW. Too bad I have to vote for you tomorrow.
I'm miserable Matt. Just so upset. Poor ika. Poor me. I'll never be happy again!!Matt wrote:You're overdoing it.
You bad.
All right Matt. I hate this game now. You've made is seriously unpleasant for me today. In fact because I had a couple emotional outbursts and ika died, I need to go jump off a cliff I'm so miserable. I mean, I helped catch scum but nope, that means I would only be happy here if I were scum here and not civ. I mean sure, that makes perfect fucking sense. I think you are trying to piss me off on purpose at this point and it worked.Matt wrote: But k. I'm gonna go tear my hair out then come back and say I'm havin' a dippity do da time.
Yeah, I called that interaction civ v civ. So fucking what? I have a right to townread someone or to think it's two town arguing. You are seriously twisting my words and I am seriously considering dropping the townread I have on you over this now. Your points on me are all fabricated as hell.Matt wrote:No, you didn't merely give Rico a town read.
You gave an example of the ika/Rico show, as FACT, as "town imploding while the baddies watched."
Different then giving someone a town read.
But k. I'm gonna go tear my hair out then come back and say I'm havin' a dippity do da time.
Stop pointing out things in my posts and misrepresenting them. I never said I knew he was town. Not one time. I was scumreading him beginning of the game for the longest time but it developed into a townread over time.Matt wrote:What do you make of Silver "knowing" Rico is town, SVS?
No I'm pissed off about WHAT you are calling me a liar about. That's what's pissing me off. Yeah, I guess if you don't want me to enjoy this game you can keep this petty BS up and I won't.Matt wrote:SVS...
What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?
Stop asking everyone else what I'm thinking and ask me. Where did I insult your brain function by saying I can't figure you out and don't want to try? You are insulting me by saying I'm lying about enjoying a game I'm enjoying. Go ahead and vote me. I don't give a fuck. I'm also not going to address this with you again. Not only are you calling me a liar but saying I'm faking being mad. Get bent.Matt wrote:SVS...
What do you make of an experienced player such as Silverwolf getting "pissed off" that I am accusing her of lying in a game where we are trying to find out who the liars are? Then proceeds to insult my brain function?
KMatt wrote:Hrm.
No, I think you're bad.
One moment you are "pissed off" that I am "suspecting you of lying" (haha), the next moment you are hurling insults my way about my brain function (which, personally, I don't mind you saying it, it's just funny you would insult me at all after feigning being "mad" about me playing the game)...
You bad. I'll be sure to vote for ya tomorrow.
This is bullshit. You don't know shit about me or what I like or don't in a game-especially as baddie vs civ. If you weren't known for these kind of conspiracy theories, I'd be more annoyed than I am already but it and maybe even start getting suspicious over it. I would know more than anyone if I like a game or not. It's super frustrating to say I'm lying about it or that I'm bad because of it. I wouldn't be liking a game as a baddie where one of my teammates just got lynched nearly as much as I would as a civ who just helped lynch scum.Matt wrote:Y'know, I have a mind blowing inability to put my ideas into words that make any kind of sense, so I'll forgive you 3J.
But generally, yes, I'd say she would be enjoying the game as a baddie.
As a civvie, not so much. No way, actually.
Linki - K
Hrm.
Her response to me was over the top. I have barely interacted with her at all. And yeah, aren't you the one who argued with ika for hours in that last heist game where you were both town. I don't see any evidence of me harassing Daisy in any way this game or any evidence that I'm going to do so for the next 72 hours. I won't be emotionally bullied into not suspecting her though but she won't be the only one I look at. Hell, today I won't even be here most of the day as I already said I'm undergoing a minor surgical procedure. But whatever, there is no cause for Daisy to act this way to me and I hope she feels better soon. I know what it's like to get upset in a game but I never did anything to draw her ire except make a comment I thought she was bad which Black Rock agree'd with. I"m bothered that you would just agree with her without investigating this further or make yet another comment about ika/myself playstyle which we get so much crap about both of us have considered leaving this site before. Luckily, I'm really liking this game, so I'm here.a2thezebra wrote:If this is just frustration over her then forget about it, I'm not contributing to your lynch over that. She and ika (especially ika) are extremely stubborn with their opinions, this is just something that you accept and get used to over time.Spacedaisy wrote:Having to listen to Silverwolfs bullsuit about me for the next 72 hours is a foregone conclusion. I'm just over this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Spacedaisy wrote:Lynch me. You are all fraking wrong about me, I'm very much human. But please do lynch me, I have zero desire to play this anymore. And I would like to see Silverwolfs smug comments she will scramble to make when it's proven to be the case. So lynch me next.
We're twenty minutes into the night phase. It's not as though lynching you is a foregone conclusion. What is all this?
Knock it off Daisy.Spacedaisy wrote:Having to listen to Silverwolfs bullsuit about me for the next 72 hours is a foregone conclusion. I'm just over this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Spacedaisy wrote:Lynch me. You are all fraking wrong about me, I'm very much human. But please do lynch me, I have zero desire to play this anymore. And I would like to see Silverwolfs smug comments she will scramble to make when it's proven to be the case. So lynch me next.
We're twenty minutes into the night phase. It's not as though lynching you is a foregone conclusion. What is all this?
KSpacedaisy wrote:Lynch me. You are all fraking wrong about me, I'm very much human. But please do lynch me, I have zero desire to play this anymore. And I would like to see Silverwolfs smug comments she will scramble to make when it's proven to be the case. So lynch me next.
Cuz I screwed it up once and saw someone else do it.Golden wrote:Why are people saying so say we all?
So say we all!!Silverwolf wrote:OK, So nutella was a cylon number 4. Probably a baddie.
And stayed dead too.
Yay!!
assumptionEpignosis wrote:Is that an assumption or a fact?Silverwolf wrote:Because we are still hunting res ships. Until then, he will just come back.sig wrote:Fine then maybe LC isn't bad, just misguided about me.Black Rock wrote:I agree. This is not a baddie LC I see here.Epignosis wrote:He's being stubborn, not manipulative.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Why do you think he's good?Epignosis wrote:I've made a deal with Long Con, and unless he accepts, my vote goes to him. I'm sorry.
I still believe Epi is bad and should be lynched.
I mean this is like if we had a game where the cop claimed a red check and yet we didn't lynch the player who was red checked, since they might not be bad. The cylons look like the mafia it makes sense for them to be the mafia, we have a cylon who wasn't lynched since their resurrection ship was floating around and came back. Yet we aren't lynching him today why? This baffles me.
Because we are still hunting res ships. Until then, he will just come back.sig wrote:Fine then maybe LC isn't bad, just misguided about me.Black Rock wrote:I agree. This is not a baddie LC I see here.Epignosis wrote:He's being stubborn, not manipulative.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Why do you think he's good?Epignosis wrote:I've made a deal with Long Con, and unless he accepts, my vote goes to him. I'm sorry.
I still believe Epi is bad and should be lynched.
I mean this is like if we had a game where the cop claimed a red check and yet we didn't lynch the player who was red checked, since they might not be bad. The cylons look like the mafia it makes sense for them to be the mafia, we have a cylon who wasn't lynched since their resurrection ship was floating around and came back. Yet we aren't lynching him today why? This baffles me.
That would of been so much fun!!Matt wrote:Yeah but if you do it we'll know you're obvi scum. Haha.Silverwolf wrote:I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.
Btw did you realize that we were the potential btsc civs in Eloh's Downton game? We would've had so much fun, I think, supatown scum hunter and weird ideas guy, I'm buggin' we never got dat btsc!!
I don't mind if people are low quantiy, high quality posters. It's when they post next to nothing for days that makes me want to get rid of them.bea wrote: linki- silver - I get where you are coming from. I really really do. FWIW Day 4 is my cut off point. I feel like low posters are fair game at about day 4.
By then - I've seen what I need to see of people like DF or BR to have *some* sort of opinion. They are players who are NEVER going to post as much as you do. But when they are civ - their small posts contain meat in them. See my discussion with svs re: BR. I didn't ask for a break because of RL - but enough people here know what RL is for me being the GM of a pizza place in a big city and holiday weekend is holiday weekend. For any of that you could have lead a lynch against me and it would have been low poster justified. I'm only very lucky that I had these two days to catch up.
Who of the people who have been vocal do you have suspish on? Cuz something tells me Cavil is around here. And he's a talky SOB.
I'm sure you are not the only one...........DrWilgy wrote:I mean... That's what I do.Silverwolf wrote:I think the next time I draw scum on this site, I'll say I'm busy, barely post, say I'm trying to catch up once in awhile, then sit back and laugh as the town continues to defend me for not being here.
I literally said I thought IAWY was scummy for being under the radar and several people chimed in to say he's just behind due to being busy. D'Faraday was also being let off the hook for this. Daisy and Epi have asked to get a break due to RL. Black Rock is busy as well I believe. This is frustrating to me if it continues long into the game because these people are unreadable. I usually give people wiggle room D1 for RL but if it continues into D2, I usually want them lynched unless they are being replaced. I've already said why. They are either scum under the radar or town who isn't gonna be helpful. I can't read people who don't post. At least IAWY replaced so maybe Wilgy will be able to post enough to read that slot but some others have been barely posting. And some people who draw scum don't post much or it's hard to post much or they sit back and let town implode via ika/Rico for example. They get overlooked and then those who are active get suspected. Scum can be active too but if there is a site meta of letting people who don't post off the hook, then that will become a viable scum strategy and that makes games a hell of a lot more difficult and frustrating.bea wrote: linki - silver - sometimes town gets caught up in RL too. I don't think giving players the BOTD is a bad thing. I personally try to look at every angle before I vote. Also - I'm curious as to which scum you think are doing this vs the many many people who've fallen behind in this thread who are also probably civ? I don't by any means think you are scum - this is just the first time I've played with you outside of the really odd turf wars where I was a prisoner from the get go - so I'm trying to understand you.
Scummy-under the radarDrWilgy wrote:So... because I'm not reading 2400 posts... How would you describe the person I used to be?
Hmmmm................this seems like a rather panicked and OMGUSy reaction. If LC is bad, Nerolunar likely is not. And if Nerolunar turns out to be bad, LC likely isn't as well. I usually don't do associations before flips but this one seems rather obvious.Long Con wrote:For disrupting the plan, huh? Ridiculous. THAT'S how you catch a baddie now? You are that much more likely to be bad and going for the low-hanging fruit you think you see. What a crock. "OH and JJJ's case was alright." Alright. Nice. FoS Nerolunar.Nerolunar wrote:Vote Long Con
Im going to bed soon, so I want to get my vote out there. I chose Long Con above anyone else because disrupting our plan "for fun" seems like such a lame excuse, and JJJ´s case was alright.
Nutella strikes me as genuine. Inconsistent maybe, but genuine. Long Con seems more manipulative in comparison imo.
I'm really glad someone brought this up. It absolutely makes sense that the game can't be broken by flavor/lore. A complex game like this usually has many layers and just calling someone civ or mafia based on character alone makes no sense. We need to judge people by play regardless of character.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:One point I'd like to throw out there that lore-knowers can contest or not:
It strikes me as unlikely that the alignment of characters in the show will entirely define the alignment of characters in this game. We have a mechanic in place that reveals players' characters, as has happened with Epignosis. If there's a consistent correlation between show alignment and game alignment, then wouldn't this mechanic eventually break the game?
I disagree Epi is civ. I still lean scum based on play. The rest of this point is interesting and worth bringing up again and discussing when the res ships are gone. Just noting it for now.G-Man wrote: While it seems like Epi is probably a civvie-aligned Toaster, the argument over killing them all or only some is pretty simple- I don't see how killing all the Toasters can be a bad thing for the humans. Based on lore, some may be civvie aligned but if we zap them all, and no humans are baddies, then we still win. If there are humans whose wincons require civ-aligned Toasters to be alive, that sucks.
I would just do one of these for now.G-Man wrote:Are there any other sectors on the grid under serious consideration? I am here and should be for most of the day. I've got an alarm set on my phone for the 11:49 submission time.
Just brushing up on the last two pages for my notes and then we can chat about whatever you like.
Ricochet wrote: I endorse D4 or D2 as the next option(s).
Good point, it also inflames an already volatile situation. She also insinuated he was acting like an asshole. If she's not suspicious of him, then I'm left to believe it's an antagonistic approach that isn't used to get a read on ika and is therefore scum motivated.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Frankly if you were saying those things merely to convey that he was annoying then it's an even worse look, because that commentary can serve no purpose except to discredit ika. There's no reason to say those things at all if they aren't statements of suspicion.nutella wrote:JJJ, saying I disliked ika's tone does not at all imply that I was scum reading him. Early on day 1 I thought his strong defense of silver was pingy, but I quickly learned that that was their dynamic and decided his behavior made him all the more likely to be civ. LC is right that I mostly just found him annoying, and in that particular post I was backing off from my previous statement of suspicion.
Don't tell me not to play mafia. I've won far more games than I've ever lost. You are just being a jerk to me in this game like you were in Turf Wars. Clearly you have issues with me. I'm sick of your antagonizing shit towards me in numerous games. You are a moderator here who should know better and you've been talked to about this before. I'm reporting this shit now. I've had it with you.Epignosis wrote:No it isn't. This is like a poker game. If your tells are consistent, you will lose all the time. That simple. Play Bingo if you can't keep your tells in check.Silverwolf wrote:And finally, It's out of line to say people shouldn't play mafia if they are predictable and can't shake things up. I know that insinuation was thrown around that ika was saying that about me and he wasn't at all. He knows some of my tells because he knows me. That doesn't mean I play the same way every time. Comments like this are just not necessary and quite frankly, rude.
Later she said she finds him annoying but not bad. At first this pinged me a lot until I realized her read progression isn't that far off base from what she was saying and it wasn't as murky as I thought.nutella wrote:this game is confusing :/
after a quick readthrough the player who sticks out to me the most is ika I guess. Not only do I find his rife-with-ignored-typos posts difficult and obnoxious to read, I'm unsure what to think of his fierce insistence on being able to read silverwolf no matter what, and the back-and-forth with Rico has been interesting to say the least. To some extent I understand the idea that some players might not really be able to help how they behave as civ or scum (I have been guilty of it myself). But the way he's talking about it and not allowing for any possibility he could be wrong is just really setting me off.
I wouldn't say he's necessarily vote-worthy for it yet, he's just so far the only blip on my radar, and day 1 for me usually involves having no clue who to really suspect and just voting for the strongest slight ping, so something else could come up.
nutella wrote:OK, caught up, what an adventure. And shame on me for posting before catching up and thereby missing another so say we all.
This resurrection ship thing is pretty unfortunate, we have an outed baddie who we can't kill yet :/ I hope we can find and destroy the ship soon, but if not it might admittedly be a waste to try to lynch Epi again right away. But if we can't kill him maybe we can get some info out of him
OK, So she accepts that Epi is a baddie due to flipping cylon until the conversation ensues about Epi being a good cylon. Suddently, I get this paragraph about it not being black and white. If that's the case, why even say Epi is bad in the first place. This doesn't make much sense. It's like nutella was jumping on the popular choice until it wasn't and then she went with whatever the other popular opinion was at the time.nutella wrote: Yes, this. We have had numerous games that were not simply black and white "town" versus "scum" because honestly that gets really boring after a while. SW, ika, this may be new for you but try to keep an open mind about what a mafia game can look like and how complex the alignment system can get, and also maybe pay some attention to those who have show-lore-knowledge that might help understand such complexity for this particular game. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but show some flexibility and open-mindedness because that is how we play here. You are welcome to your opinions but please don't be rude about them or try to shove them down people's throats.
Yeah, Golden's wording leads me to believe that one resurrection was destroyed. Does this mean there is more than one? Do I still need to have him search when my time comes up today or is this it?Ricochet wrote:Golden wrote:You have found and destroyed a resurrection ship in square B2. Hot Dog and Kat have returned alive.
"A" resurrection ship? Are there more? Does the search go on?
He's human. He's not mafia either.Long Con wrote:Sorry for the multi-post, but I just had another thought: how could ika be a Cylon if the rez ship still exists, and ika has not been rezzed?
NOMatt wrote: AND even if ika was human, that does not clear him from being mafia IMO. There are 29 players in this game, well enough for two separate mafia teams.
I have no idea. Blocked or didn't use it is my guess.Matt wrote:Silverwolf - I believe all you said was "No" but for real...
Do you believe that Dee just simply didn't use her power last night? Or was blocked?
NoMatt wrote:Otherwise, I'm inclined to believe ika was indeed a Cylon.
Unless someone tells me differently I'll do F4 at the next time of 5:49 PM Eastern.Silverwolf wrote:I can do it. It's good to have a name in there. What sector again? Checkerboard pattern?indiglo wrote:Good work!juliets wrote:Send sortie to C3
Up next at 5:49pm EST we have no one scheduled. If anyone wants to cover it, feel free to speak up.
LC, would you like to take that timeslot? If you're unavailable I will do my best to cover it if no one else volunteers.
I can do it. It's good to have a name in there. What sector again? Checkerboard pattern?indiglo wrote:Good work!juliets wrote:Send sortie to C3
Up next at 5:49pm EST we have no one scheduled. If anyone wants to cover it, feel free to speak up.
LC, would you like to take that timeslot? If you're unavailable I will do my best to cover it if no one else volunteers.
