The Syndicate

sig wrote:I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.

The main reason I thought you were scummy in the end there was the fact that you were lining up lynches. But you were not the only one.

The scum team all did well.

I would shoot lurkers as vig if I didn't have good scum prospects to target. Because there is no way to read people who won't post. They could be scum or unhelpful town. But again, this is just me. I have a prejudice against lurkers?

Ricochet wrote: Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.

This, totally. LOL

MovingPictures07 wrote:Silver, a lot of what you were onto with respect to my game was NAI, at least in my view (and obviously Golden's as well), but I still have to give you props for following your lead. You did genuinely get me with the "townies feel emotion, they don't talk about feeling it!" part, which threw me off a bit, but I tried to funnel frustrations that I legitimately feeling with you and ika into that conversation.

And I had no idea why Frog kept saying I was confirmed scum, that was confusing.

When you said you didn't understand how I couldn't sense your frustration, it pinged because you seem to aware of how your emotions came across. That said, you played an amazing game. I don't know if I would of stayed on you all game. Like Epi said, I thought you and Golden were both bad and sig and Wilgy were pinging me too. ika I wasn't sure of at all yet before he killed me.

I will say that I usually heavily question what I find bizarre so I would of questioned you and Golden as one of you whiteknighting the other and maybe eventually would of come around to Golden being scum doing it to town you. It's hard to say what would of happened since I've been dying N1 and N2 in my games recently.

Also sorry MM if I was harsh on the vig. It is not easy to make that call. I usually go for lurkers if I can't find a truly scummy player but that's me.

One other thing I wanted to mention is that town needs town blocs to beat out scum. This means I always town hunt. If I can find them and PoE out the scum, then town has a chance. The hard part is when town doesn't post much because I will try to lynch low content posters starting D2 usually.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.

But it never is indicative with some players, including me.

I've learned through 2 years and numerous games, that tow reading someone off effort, is never a good idea. I do think you did a great job. Don't get me wrong. Sig and ika did too. This is just a lesson for future games.

Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.

Hi Yeah ika and I talked w permission of JJJ due to the guilt he felt for killing me. Because of these issues, we probably won't play together outside of the game we are signed up for, for a little while.

I'm really starting to hate the color red.

I'm not voting for Frog. I think he's town.

Oh well, all my scumread wagons have disappeared so I guess that's that then.

ika wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:I should switch back to IAWY
Don't plz
DO IT GOLDEN ITS MUSICAL VOTES!

What are you doing?

sig wrote:@Golden yes it was rather stupid, however I was trying to provide an alternative to the inaword and MM lynch. I believe just like I believed last game that this is a scum driven CFD away from the mafia member. SO I might have been wrong last game about the CFD however, I'm confident this game that I'm not wrong and that this CFD is actually mafia driven and fake. Plus I really dislike Silver's thoughts on Soneji.

Do I like CFDs? No
However, if we are to CFD I'd want it to be one someone who I think is mafia and there is a larger chance he is mafia then inaword.

Though I do dislike that he was on early yet didn't say anything or switch his vote. Which also adds to my MM/him theory. Though I doubt it is the case since I don't think he is mafia.

linki: Yes Silver I did in fact you said I answered them and they made you feel better about me so what are you playing at?

No you didn't answer my questions about why you want to start a cw on IAWY when you quoted me and asked if I was joking. I'm not BTW.

Soneji wrote:
sig wrote:@Golden yes it was rather stupid, however I was trying to provide an alternative to the inaword and MM lynch. I believe just like I believed last game that this is a scum driven CFD away from the mafia member. SO I might have been wrong last game about the CFD however, I'm confident this game that I'm not wrong and that this CFD is actually mafia driven and fake. Plus I really dislike Silver's thoughts on Soneji.
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Silver hasn't given any thoughts on me sig. All she has said when mentioning my name is in relation to my activity, IAWY's RVS on me and asking you why you're reluctant on giving me time to catch up. She has offered no opinion on my actual reads.

You're making a connection out of basically nothing.

Wait what?

@sig-quote my thoughts on Soneji you don't like, I'm liking you less and less as I try to catch up as quickly as I can

ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:i just noticed there no tie break mecnahinc....

or did i miss that
Of course there is...

It's called seeing who bends first
gold what would you do if i changed my vote at last minuite to go "SCREW THIS"

Who would you change it to?

Sloonei wrote:what did inawordyes do?

He's got a meta of being a strong town player but came in and vote parked Soneji who hadn't posted anything, and shows a distinct lack of curiosity about the game or doing any scumhunting or game solving, has said he's not gonna do anything, and has had a very nervous tone to his posts. This is preferable to a Metalmarsh lynch to me and let's be honest, it looks like it's gonna be one of those.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I also noticed in my pop ins that ika and Silverwolf have followed each other all over the board in votes. Is that a correct assessment?
I have no idea, but that wouldn't surprise me either.

What do you think about this if it is true?
Nothing yet. I don't want Silverwolf to all caps my ass.
ika will probably lowercase your ass, so you're fine. :P

Ahahahahahah

Golden wrote:
sig wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
sig wrote:So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.
Why would you want to start a cw? Is IAWY that strong town to you? And why not give Sonjei time to catch up?
Are you serious right now? YOU are lynching IAWY when he isn't here or caught up. And you make it seem bad I'm saying the same thing?
You are objecting to a 'CFD' (your words - I don't think a couple of people voting together for someone they both suspect is a CFD at all) but then you want to create a CFD of your own.

I mean, this is like bread and butter 'why sig got lynched day one again'. But you are being inconsistent.

Yeah, I also noticed he didn't answer my questions.

sig wrote:So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why would you want to start a cw? Is IAWY that strong town to you? And why not give Sonjei time to catch up?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.
At what point did ika's lack of providing content get you concerned? You weren't concerned when I cased him. Not starting the discussion again, I'm genuinely curious when you started becoming more harsh on him.

I can't elaborate without discussing ongoing but he's been back in town long enough to give good content. He's starting to post more now so we'll see. I'm not lynching him today but I was very concerned he wasn't posting here.

I really gotta go. I'll be back before EoD.

a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

Silverwolf wrote: IAWY I would vote for and lynch in a heartbeat

Silverwolf wrote:VOTE INAWORDYES

Hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha what the fuck.
Yes, hilarious. If you look at my earlier posts I had a scumread on him. He's better than the other people up for lynch, even as a null.

Thank You for laughing at me when I'm in a shit mood. That totally helps.
Helps what?

Is it not sensible to laugh when someone says that the case against a certain player is superficial and amounts to playstyle, then immediately says they would lynch that same player in a heart beat before switching their vote for him? Your earlier posts don't help this, they make it worse actually. Here's the timeline as I understand it:

1. You scumread IAWY.
2. You say that the case against him is superficial and amounts to playstyle, and that IAWY is "back at null" for you.
3. You say that you would vote for him and lynch him in a heartbeat.
4. You vote for him.

I'm sorry, why am I not supposed to laugh again?

I'm gonna give you the same consideration you've been giving me all game and tell you I don't give a fuck what you think. I've given plenty of thought on this so laugh at me all you want.

I don't care and I'm ignoring you for the rest of the day.

Also, anyone who wants to can ISO me and see my points on IAWY. It's easy to do. His vote on Soneji all game sucks and he's done nothing townie in any posts besides being someone who has a meta of being strong town. He's lurking heavily as well. Yes, he's mostly null but I feel so much better about his lynch than sloonei or metalmarsh or zebra that this is where my vote will stay.

I will be away for a bit now.

a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

Silverwolf wrote: IAWY I would vote for and lynch in a heartbeat

Silverwolf wrote:VOTE INAWORDYES

Hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha what the fuck.

Yes, hilarious. If you look at my earlier posts I had a scumread on him. He's better than the other people up for lynch, even as a null.

Thank You for laughing at me when I'm in a shit mood. That totally helps.

Silverwolf wrote:ika-capitalize that please

LOL-missed your post doing this already

ika-capitalize that please

VOTE INAWORDYES

This is where I feel best right now. I could be misunderstanding the MP meta Golden is telling me so I'll give it another day.

Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.
Who are your strong townreads?

How do you feel about IAWY at this point? Is that still a viable vote for you?
Dyslexicon, Frog, Zexy, sloonei and zebra are light townreads

IAWY I would vote for and lynch in a heartbeat

Add Marco to my list of townreads.

Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.
Who are your strong townreads?

How do you feel about IAWY at this point? Is that still a viable vote for you?

Dyslexicon, Frog, Zexy, sloonei and zebra are light townreads

IAWY I would vote for and lynch in a heartbeat

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.
silver if you had to name the sucm team right now who would it be? that and 2 outsider incase the 4 are wrong?

if they killyou n1 img onna agrro the thread

I don't know, it keeps changing.

Golden, MP are in the top running.

Maybe the low posters for the other two-like two of soneji, psit-whoever that is with 2 posts, IAWY, and there's an outside chance of metalmarsh-not agreeing with his sloonei case, and maybe sig but that's gut. I also hope Epi can post enough content because LC was a huge null read.

I also am worried about you ika. I want more from you. You are not giving your attention to this game at all.

I will say I don't want to lynch Zebra or Sloonei today. Metalmarsh is looking better also and Epi needs a chance to post.

I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.

Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Saying even if MP is scum, he should live because he's active and helpful, is just blowing my mind right now.
I did not say that. I said he should not get your vote because your reasons for suspecting him are NAI. That's all.

I was talking about Zebra saying that.

Saying even if MP is scum, he should live because he's active and helpful, is just blowing my mind right now. If he's scum, he should die. I can see defending him if you have a strong townread on him but saying no matter what is alignment is, you want him alive is just something I can't wrap my head around. I will do this if I need more time to figure someone out and give them another day but he's posted plenty of content. Same thing happened in Turf Wars that is happening here. I was right on some of the scum and I was arrested and no one listened to me and even after I died, I was still accused of being tinfoil. Same thing here, no one likes my playstyle so they get frustrated with it and by extension, ignore what I'm saying. It's beyond frustrating.

Golden wrote:I do feel god about zebras responses to me and I'd like to shift my vote but I won't if it leads to an mp lynch.

Can't do anything about silver claiming I'm tunnelling her. If tunnelling ends in a civ read maybe I should do more of it.

That isn't the point but whatever.

sigh...................

MovingPictures07 wrote:Who should ISO next? IAWY, Wilgy, or Zexy? Those are the next three on the post count list if I continue to go ascending. Anyone have any preference?

IAWY-I'd be very interested in this before day ends what you think of him

MP-You have a lot of mafia reads-why are you in unvote status this close to EoD?

I don't like the sloonei or zebra wagons right now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Whatever, Silverwolf, don't feel obligated to elaborate. I'm done with this too. You've clearly already made up your mind. Talk to me again once you're actually willing to listen to me.
Right, I've been answering every one of your questions.

Excuse me for bothering to suspect you. I'll make sure to take your feelings into account next game and leave you alone.

This is proof you're not listening to me. I don't give a shit if you suspect me. Eat crow for all I care when I inevitably get mislynched. You won't actually listen to my defenses; you're just auto-dismissing me.

Um no, I've been answering everything you throw at me and listening to everything you say. You just don't understand why I don't back down.

Ugh...............this convo is fucking pointless!!!!

It's going nowhere. God..............

sig wrote:Yo @Everyone online top three people you'd lynch today?

Mainly this is directed at Ika/Silver/MP/Zebra

MP, metalmarsh-yep his contribution was bad, IAWY for same bad contributions and vote on Soneji all game

MovingPictures07 wrote:Whatever, Silverwolf, don't feel obligated to elaborate. I'm done with this too. You've clearly already made up your mind. Talk to me again once you're actually willing to listen to me.

Right, I've been answering every one of your questions.

Excuse me for bothering to suspect you. I'll make sure to take your feelings into account next game and leave you alone.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Look, I'm not trying to anger either of you. I respect and like you both. You're both very swell people. I know you haven't used it directly, but it inevitably affects the way you both play the game, and it can victimize players who dare question either of you or the meta reads that you display for each other. I'm being mafia read because Silverwolf doesn't like the case I made on you.
and there have been a multitude of games where silver called out scumm based on that reaosn alone. it it doesnt even haev to be on me, when she pings someone based on what looks like shit reaosns its mostly cus its right.

so many people have made weak acusatiosn on her/me other and she called peopleout on that and loh and behold its sucm
Let me elaborate. I have caught scum before who try to mislynch me as town based on similar bad reasoning that MP used on ika.

This was a huge ping to me.

I want to know why Golden has such an issue with this and calls in tunneling when he tunneled the shit out of me most of the game.

Again, he's making me very suspicious along with MP for his lack of consistency here.
Lack of consistency? Elaborate.

Well, he's apparently frustrated with me for tunneling you but has tunneled me most of the game.

a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OMG-MP's discrediting of me and my case and deliberately misinterpreting it makes me want to keep my vote where it is.

Time to accuse me of tunneling Golden.
You definitely haven't tunneled me.
I think there's meant to be a comma after the word "tunneling".

It is.

Like MP and Golden are just scum.

I'm done arguing with them and clogging up the game with it.

Town can decide for themselves.

ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Look, I'm not trying to anger either of you. I respect and like you both. You're both very swell people. I know you haven't used it directly, but it inevitably affects the way you both play the game, and it can victimize players who dare question either of you or the meta reads that you display for each other. I'm being mafia read because Silverwolf doesn't like the case I made on you.
and there have been a multitude of games where silver called out scumm based on that reaosn alone. it it doesnt even haev to be on me, when she pings someone based on what looks like shit reaosns its mostly cus its right.

so many people have made weak acusatiosn on her/me other and she called peopleout on that and loh and behold its sucm

Let me elaborate. I have caught scum before who try to mislynch me as town based on similar bad reasoning that MP used on ika.

This was a huge ping to me.

I want to know why Golden has such an issue with this and calls in tunneling when he tunneled the shit out of me most of the game.

Again, he's making me very suspicious along with MP for his lack of consistency here.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I'm being mafia read because Silverwolf doesn't like the case I made on you.

You made a couple bad entrance posts. I didn't like them because it seem awkward to me and too cautious.

Your case on ika looked like a huge stretch and was based on things that happened when he wasn't here. Going for an easy lynch.

You have been heavily discrediting myself and also ika every since.

You are sewing chaos.

There:

-Now you all have my MP scumread in a nutshell here.

I'm tired of everyone bitching about how ika and I play.

If you'd prefer, I can just not join any more games here.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OMG-MP's discrediting of me and my case and deliberately misinterpreting it makes me want to keep my vote where it is.

Time to accuse me of tunneling Golden.
I'm not discrediting or deliberately misinterpreting shit. What the hell are you talking about?

You and ika are perhaps the two most frustrating people I've ever played with. I respect you both greatly and think you're swell, but god damn.

OK, stop saying we are using our RL situation. I know ika's playstyle. That's all. I don't want him lynched based off of that. You are plenty frustrating yourself. I'm not sure why you and Golden are picking a fight with me and ika also but it rings as scum trying to sew chaos.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
How can you not see the irony? It doesn't matter that you and ika are dating and Golden and I aren't.
DO NOT BREING OUR DATING LIFE TO THIS GAME WE HAVE NOT ONCE USED THAT I HAVE EXPLTIVLY ASKED FOR IT TO REAMIN OUT OF GAME
I'm not the one bringing it in. You are. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say.

Dyslexicon asked what our relationship was. You keep bringing it up to discredit us. You are just scum I believe.

OMG-MP's discrediting of me and my case and deliberately misinterpreting it makes me want to keep my vote where it is.

Time to accuse me of tunneling Golden.

I'm not interested in voting Zebra anymore either.

Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:I just don't get you silverwolf. Last game you didn't like my defending of you, but was I right? yes. Was I town? yes.

I defend people. It's what I do. If you can't get over it, you'll keep trying to mislynch me.
I don't care if you defend your townreads but at the time you hadn't give MP a townread cuz he barely posted. If you are strong townreading him now, then fine but at the time you were not.
You still aren't getting it. I defend people against poor accusations. The people I defend sometimes end up being scum. I'm not defending them because I think they are town. I defend them because I think the reasons for voting them are crap.

Your reasons for voting MP in this game have almost uniformly been terrible for anyone who knows MP. You don't... so your reasons are excusable. But you just take me trying to get who MP is into your head as defending. You can't take it as someone who knows him well trying to tell you his meta. You see us as scumbuddies.

This just isn't good play, from you. Your paranoia prevents you from taking on board important information and is leading you down a blind path for bad reasons. Even if you are right about MP, you are right for the wrong reasons.

You say I've focussed on you a lot today, but I've taken on board all sorts of sources and ended up with you as a slight town read. You just keep coming back to MP no matter what. It's been the biggest example of tunnelling on day one.

You mean I'm tunneling someone I think is scum?

How dare me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:For some reason I feel like Golden and MP are scumbuddies.
You say this over and over and it makes me go back to suspecting you a little. Should I suspect you and ika are scum buddies because you defend each other? Or should I recognise that you know each others meta and listen to you when you talk about each other?

You've chosen not to acknowledge any of the things I've said when you've referenced my defense of MP.
Right, I think MP could be scum. I do not like associatives without a scum flip this early but it seems really over the top-your defense of him. All I am doing with ika is explaining his meta and playstyle and not liking MP's push on him for being away.

If you are going to concentrate on me all game, let me know now so I can stock up on extra caffeine to keep my energy up as you are draining me like crazy. LOL
How can you not see the irony? It doesn't matter that you and ika are dating and Golden and I aren't.

Whoa, hold the damn fort!!

ika and I dating has zero to do with me reading him in a game and should not be used in any way for any reason by anyone

Now, I'm getting irate and might need the mod on duty.

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