The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Little under 7h til poll closes and only 7 votes were cast. Very interesting.

Why is that interesting?

Because at this point in the game it either means that people are very uncomfortable with their reads or that they are treading in the shadows to avoid discussions.

Uncomfortable or bad, huh?

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Little under 7h til poll closes and only 7 votes were cast. Very interesting.

Why is that interesting?

a2thezebra wrote:sig of course, Vompatti, ObscureAllure, Drum Beats, and juliets, but not as nearly as much as the other four. Good night.

a2thezebra wrote:Do you honestly think that that's all that means? That Golden would go to the trouble of making that distinction for every character if it didn't have a major effect on the game? Yeah sure, he might as well have adjusted the size of the font based on the characters' height, like just for shits and giggles you know. It's not like it could possibly mean something more relevant to the direction the game is going or anything.

Golden wrote: Galen Tyrol – Tyrol is the chief mechanic on board Galactica. Periodically, Galactica will come under Cylon attack. As long as Tyrol is alive, he will hold Galactica together and attacks will have no effect. If Tyrol is dead, however, Cylon attacks on Galactica have a chance of causing the death of an occupant on the Galactica, and a small chance of causing the destruction of Galactica and everyone on board.

a2thezebra wrote:I know it's just red and green but it's distributed among both cylons and humans with varying degrees of prominence for both.

DOES THAT MEAN NOTHING TO ANYONE ELSE?

Golden wrote:IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Location: Those whose names are written in teal are stationed aboard the Battlestar Galactica. Those whose names are written in peach are not. This may change during the course of the game.

Long Con wrote:

Polo wrote:This does not read like an insanifier.

Are you a Cylon, Wilgy?

Dude tyhe guy is drunk. I'm not as drunkn as hiumm, but I recognize the shit as it happens. Don't be so harsh,

a2thezebra wrote:Glorfindel is confirmed town.

Glorfindel wrote: From what I (skim) read I feel happy so far about Zebs (I wonder if I've developed some skill in reading her now given our rocky start).

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:I hope there's no such thing as a Resurrection Hub.

I doubt Resurrection Hub is the most popular Hub on the Internet.

Matt wrote:Nobody likes my theory on why juliets died, which is totes cool I know I can be a little out there, so a question...

Does anyone else have a theory as to why juliets died?

Also, I don't think this has any relevance, but just to put it out there...

C6 = Caprica Six?

Golden wrote:Resurrection Ship

Adama immediately ordered regular sorties. Kat and Hot Dog may be sent on a mission to one surrounding sector every six hours. If they encounter a resurrection ship there, they will destroy it. There is also a chance that one of them may die in battle.

SokothQultuq wrote:

Matt wrote:Honestly I don't know how much I can say before Goldama punishes me.

Oh jeezus, now I sound like OA.

Basically, I think I may have been tricked behind the scenes. That's all. Derp.

Linki - Vote the Klingon! A sure bet!

Matt your too easily excitable. If it makes you happy, you can vote for me and start a band wagon to lynch me. Go for it.

Here just for you

I am a cylon.

Just so you can be sure and satisfied so that when it comes around you can lynch me proper. Have a nice day. 8-)

Golden wrote:Dammit, I missed getting to participate in the gun to head reads exercise. Who wants to know my reads?

Glorfindel wrote:

Polo wrote:Well, I am not the President, I am not Golden and I have no certainty over why the law was enacted, but it could have been a way of making it clear that there should be town Cylons in this game.

We still need to kill Cavil, though. Help us do so by claiming Cylon, will ya?

I want to sincerely thank you for taking the time to answer my question, my friend. I acknowledge that you didn't (in all likelihood) enact the law yourself and I totally endorse your presumption that it "could've been a way of making it clear that there should be Town Cylons in this game". But think about that for a minute - it doesn't make any sense in a world where the majority or even a significant number of Cylons are Mafia - UNLESS... the vast majority of Cylons AREN'T Mafia! That's been my problem with this whole Cylon Amnesty declaration thing all along. The general consensus (from my reading of things) is that the Admiral is working to a non-Town agenda by implementing win conditions under martial law that require the elimination of all our Cylon friends. If the Cylon Amnesty Act has never been repealed and we believe was passed for pro-Town reasons, I ask you, what harm have we potentially done to our chances of winning this game by eliminating a mechanic that may very well have been intended to give us some advantage?

I DO however agree with you about John Cavil. If there was one Cylon that is part of a Mafia team it would most likely be him. As I said before though, I think it's more likely that he's already jumped ship. Put yourself in his shoes - as things stand right now, which side of the fence would you rather be on? The side where there's seven or eight players you can help divert attention to and have the Town waste countless Day phases lynching or leave yourself isolated amongst a small group of players that are the focus of a lot of people's attention?

Ricochet wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Wigly

For reasons already stated by myself and nearly everyone else, and his recent approach to me. He's going to end up claiming and be free this lynch, no doubt, but I still want to take my pound of flesh.

Linki: that's funny, I never trust LC either. And the one time I did, he was playing me.

Nullity happened to Long Delbert Grady being Cylon? Thomas restlessness have voted him scum particulars?

Silverwolf wrote:

Polo wrote: Look at the poll. a2thezebra is not an option.

Wow, I just looked and noticed this. Is it something new that happened with the secret role being revealed I wonder? Like they can remove someone from the lynch pool?

bea wrote:

Polo wrote:I'll be pushing for anyone who hasn't claimed yet unless they make a very good case on someone else. If the Cylon Amnesty Act is not overturned by the President, the people can make it ineffective. But I do think that there may be a couple of people who can not ever say "I am a Cylon" for role reasons.

Why do you think this? And which roles do you think this applies to?

bea wrote:

Polo wrote:I'm going with my one of my gut reads. And as gullible as I may be, it's someone who hasn't claimed Cylon yet. Surprising?

Vote Glorfindel

Did not vote nutella on day 2;
Has yet to claim Cylon.

In an ideal scenario i'd be voting Zebra.

I'm gone for the rest of the day.

So if you are voting this early, why didn't you vote your ideal scenario?

DrWilgy wrote:*chomps on Silverwolf's leg*

I willsh shry shoo ansher all keshionsh ashk'd ohf me shoon.

DrWilgy wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Five bucks says Matt and Wigly have BTSC.

Got paypal?

Silverwolf wrote:Dr. Wilgy-OK, looking forward to it.

Vompatti's ISO doesn't look as bad as I thought it would, he does put his opinions in there, nothing stands out as suspicious

Polo-You had metalmarsh as bad in your GTH reads-can you elaborate on that?

Glorfindel wrote:So Say We All!

@Polo: Thanks for your vote on me my friend - you seem suspiciously eager to get a wagon started on me and a little over an hour later, G-Man comes in and promises a case on me...

I know you've already cast your vote but I'd really, REALLY like you to answer my question. This is (I believe) the fourth time I've asked so I'm beginning to wonder now if you're deliberately avoiding answering it for some reason. You've obviously thought this whole thing Cylon claiming thing through, so it shouldn't be THAT hard to answer, should it

Glorfindel wrote:

Polo wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Polo wrote:Glorfindel, do you have a legitimate reason not to claim Cylon? Are you John Cavil?
I am here JJJ, please make good use of my time.

Largely a matter of principle and no, you have my word that I am not John Cavil. I want to re-read the cases for and against in relation to the claiming thing. I do however suspect something entirely sinister is going on here (feel free to call me paranoid. I have a question for you though - would Youi or anyone like to speculate on why we had the Cylon Amnesty Act in the first place? What could our President been trying to achieve by passing that law? I'd be most interested in any conjecture anyone would care to volunteer on this matter.

I notice that I've had no response to this question that I asked - so I will ask again...

Sorry, got caught up in the GTH I guess.

I believe that Admiral Cain could be of an independent party with win conditions that differ from those of the civ team, and so she's not exactly town.
Golden probably thought of adding her as a way to raise difficulty and sow confusion into the game and make us all question "why the hell did we sign up for this (?)".


Oh, and by the way, why did you abstain from answering the GTH?

I mean, you posted this question amidst the gun-to-head moment. I guess it is my turn to suspect that something entirely sinister is going on here.

Maybe independent - I can see your point there. As for your assertion that Golden wanted to "raise the level of difficulty and sow confusion" I'd put it to you that was completely unnecessary on his part (at least from my perspective). In retrospect, what you're saying makes some sense although you haven't answered my question. I asked (quite clearly I thought) about the original law passed by the President giving amnesty to our Cylon friends and what circumstances may have led to that

I wonder whether LoRab was Mafia at all. In fact, I have grave doubts whether the majority of the Cylons are Mafia which makes me all the more suspicious of attempts by some to take away the benefit provided under the Amnesty Act to the Cylons. The general consensus as I read things here is that the Admiral's intents are not favourably to us and yet, we have certain people only too happy to have all our Cylon friends lynched DESPITE the fact the original law appears to have been passed with the purpose of having them remain in the game. I don't think it's a big stretch to assume that if there are any Cylons on the Mafia team (e.g. John Cavil) they would've been among the first people to rally support for the declaration thing.

As for my non participation in the GTH thing, I am Australian. I work full time. At the time I was posting, I'd only just finished lunch (feel free to check the time zone if you like - I'm on AEST) and was trying to post in between doing stuff at work. Not that you'll accept the truth anyway as you've made your opinion of me quite clear. As for my voting record, I'm not proud of it but I stand by it. I've already discussed my choices and believe that they were consistent with my previously expressed comments throughout the game and I don't appreciate other players trying to fabricate my record into something that it isn't. Thank you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Matt wrote:It's getting tiresome how 3J "never remembers" the So say we all.

Agreed. Every time I remind myself to do it, then I get side tracked with something, then I come back and make a post with no SSWA like a doofus.

Matt wrote:just hella suspect tbh. Hrm.

Why?

sig wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

sig wrote:So I get all this shit for not claiming, then when I do it is a scummy opportunistic move...............

Again someone look through Zebra's posts she has posted almost no content, Polo keeps asking people who they'd like to lynch and why not so and so that is a basic scum move. I use that all the time as mafia.

sig, I'm going to need you to acknowledge the reasons for that suspicion in a way that is not generalized and misrepresentative. Multiple people have been quite clear about why you're still suspicious, and what you just described is not an accurate depiction.

That is one of the reasons started by Scotty/Polo what are the others since I can't recall any real reasons besides the one i states and my push on Epi and other cylons. People just keep repeating I'm bad. And now you're saying I'm fusing myself to Glorf, which isn't true since it looks like it's coming down to him and me atm.

Polo I can't answer that either way it would be infodumping.

linki: Wait what polo? I'm rustled from your general behavior plus when did you say you wanted to vote for her? You've been pushing me and Glorfindel. It has nothing to do with Zebra who you're now saying you want lynched yet voted for someone else super early?

Polo wrote:I'm going with my one of my gut reads. And as gullible as I may be, it's someone who hasn't claimed Cylon yet. Surprising?

Vote Glorfindel

Did not vote nutella on day 2;
Has yet to claim Cylon.

In an ideal scenario i'd be voting Zebra.

I'm gone for the rest of the day.

Ricochet wrote:

Polo wrote:This game is addicting and I'll try to stop by every couple of hours or so.

Told you five Chaos Wizard ago in a Hungarian metro, Ender.

Ricochet wrote:

Polo wrote:Daisy claimed mafia and right now I want to pressure the Cylons to use up their claim asap.

whatCheshire Cat?

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok.... So I have to choose between voting Nero or Lorab?

Clearly Lorab would've a poor choice for a vote since she likely has amnesty. I need to go read back through Nero's posts.

I must say I am shocked more people aren't suspecting me, because I am well aware how bad my post about Nutella looked after her flip. I would ask that my emotional instability at that moment not keep you all from suspecting me as normal, I assure you I'm fine now.

Not much time; going to go check out Nero. Regarding Lorab though, I am trying to think what colons might be civ aligned other than Athena and frankly I'm not sure, anyone have a thought on whether there are those that might be?

Linki: I have no problem declaring I am a cylon in order to follow this plan, I think it's a decent idea. So I am a Cylon.

Also, in case Lorab is trying a ploy to save herself by convincing others votes for her are useless, I am putting my vote on Lorab. If the math prevents anyone but Nero getting the second most votes at this point I don't see any other worthwhile place to put my vote. It will ensure we know for certain her claim is true and avoid any shenanigans she might be trying to pull. So instead of reading Nero before voting (which is apparently pointless) I'm going to vote Lorab.

Vote: Lorab

sig wrote:So I get all this shit for not claiming, then when I do it is a scummy opportunistic move...............

Again someone look through Zebra's posts she has posted almost no content, Polo keeps asking people who they'd like to lynch and why not so and so that is a basic scum move. I use that all the time as mafia.

sig wrote:And Daisy is saying we should do the same thing that pushed Nero ahead of Lorab and what I wanted to do yesterday but on me. Both of which Polo thought was mafiash, but hasn't mentioned Daisy doing it.

If it comes down to me or Glorfindel you'll be choosing between two civs.

Ricochet wrote:

Golden wrote:The president of the colonies has brought in a new law:

Revival of the Arts Act: As many of the arts of the colonies were lost in the attack, we must begin to add to our arts collection. Each day, one random player must post only in haiku.

Oh wait, I missed 2 of Hearts. Mycroft Holmes. Wow.

SokothQultuq wrote:

Polo wrote:SokothQultuq: Do you know how can I be sure that he's claimed Cylon already? When everyone claims.


Your stubbornness might be the bane of us. It is quite obvious that if there is in fact a bad Cylon among the unclaimed, that Cylon can and probably will enjoy his immunity if his lynch is imminent, and thus will be alive for, at least, one more day, and the next most voted person will die. Are you okay with this fact?

Your starting to sound like a broken record. You still present me with no reasonable valid argument as to how this helps or hurts?

If a Cylon claims immunity and the Lynch goes to another, I would hope that our group would have the chops to have already figured out another Cylon and that they would be the 2nd vote. But of course I would feel bad if a human lost his or her life. But the odds are still the same. With everyone claiming they are cylon, no one knows who is a cylon or not. So the odds are still the same if we all claim Cylon or not.

Anyone have a better argument?

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:"Paranoid Android", by Radiohead.

"What's that"

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?

Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.

I applaud your paranoia.

There are only two instances when I get paranoid, and you don't know me well enough to know when those are.

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?

Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.