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I voted "twice" because of this:Golden wrote:People can't switch votes, even if it's to the same person. Only Polo's first vote counted.
I have accurate voting lists (at least, I believe they are accurate), so I'll post them soon.
My first vote did not have its own line.Golden wrote:2) Votes MUST be made BOTH in the poll and in the thread. Thread votes are to occupy their own line, be clearly stated to be a vote, and be written in dead red.
I think Conoy's power is the insanifier. This is an assumption based purely on lore.Ricochet wrote:If Wilgy is Conoy, then I'm torn on him. Conoy-the-role-here could have simply retained his early show scuminess, the way Boomer apparently (unless "seemingly"Polo wrote:I truly believe Wilgy is Leoben Conoy and OA is Caprica Six.
Should we trust on lore and let them be or should we lynch them? I'd rather lynch Epignosis because there could be a Boomer/Athena dichotomy in this game.) retained her early show good nature. Or he could be independent and associated with Starbuck.
I'm leaning independent on Caprica Six. Lore be damned, but she has to be linked with Gaius somehow.
Wait, in the link you referenced, you mentioned having an idea what Conoy's powers might be. Well?
Question regarding G-Man is whether he'd stick his fingers in the toaster that much by hunting Glorfindel with so much bloodlust. What say you?
Matt wrote:I see Wilgy and Polo lurking.
What say you, chums, do you believe the "Cavil can't be lynched" hysteria?
Crazy-ass theory or crazy ass-theory?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:#4
Matt, Crazy Ass Theory #635 is one that I think is worth considering. Given that Polo was able to get away with his behavior and then ended up exactly right about S~V~S's character, I think it's a valid concern that he might have been so right because he already knew her alignment and role as her team mate -- especially considering her resurrection and the nonsense we're seeing now with the Cavil sock. Polo didn't do anything "wrong" in this hypothetical scenario to warrant punishment, he simply bussed his team mate.
To claim that it was a "Boomslang gambit" and he was acting entirely on a hunch is frankly hard to believe. He didn't just call her bad, he called her Cavil.
Matt wrote:Ricochet wrote:Lol.Matt wrote:Post 2
Still have to catch up on those last three pages, but I just wanted to spit ball and throw this out there...
Possibility - Glorfy was a seemer role who could appear as town aligned even if not.
Thoughts? Or are we just assuming Glorfy is good? If we assume Glorfy is good, then I once again plead for a civ protector out there to protect siggy boy tonight. Thanks.
I saw that and quite literally started laughing that the two of us had the same thought. Scary huh?
And now, for something completely...the same as usual from me...
Crazy Ass Theory # 635
Polo is also Cavil aligned.
Observe...
Polo wrote:Heard of the Boomslang Gambit have you, hmm?S~V~S wrote:#9
I have been patient with you, Polo, becasue you are so fucking proud of yourself. But since you have not been punished, that means you are *pretending* to info dump, especially after making your case hanging around like a vulture as people vote. And if I am going to be mislynched (and I am) you need to know this, too.
You're wrong. If you lynch me, John Cavil isn't going to be lynched today.HmmmmmmmmmS~V~S wrote:Linki,wtf is a boomslang gambit?
Hrm.
The Boomslang Gambit. In Game of Champions 2015 (I love referencing this game, can anyone guess why?
Boomslang, a lovely player from our site, went all out against Long Con in thread. He never said he had info, but the way he was calling out Long Con for being bad, the thread kind of just assumed he did so he must be right. I think he even made a post 100% guaranteeing a Long Con baddie flip. The town eventually lynched Long Con. Long Con was good. As it turns out, Boomslang was also good and was not an info role and had no info, he was just guessing. Hahaha.
Anyway...
Note # 1 - Polo did not play in this game.
Note # 2 - S~V~S hosted this game.
How does Polo know about the Boomslang Gambit and S~V~S does not? This is incredibly strange to me, and I don't like it. Hrm. Given that Cavil is still alive, though to be fair we won't know until Day phase whether he can vote or not, I wouldn't be surprised if Polo going all out against SVS in thread was an act to make Polo look super awesome even if he's not.
Polo - How do you know about the Boomslang Gambit?
S~V~S - How do you not know about the Boomslang Gambit?
Post 3
ObscureAllure wrote:Polo wrote:Post #7:
We need to know how unlynchable is Cavil/S~V~S.
If she is in fact unlynchable, does this mean that if she's the most voted then the second most voted player gets lynched? Or does this mean that if S~V~S is the most voted player, no lynch will happen on that day?
Just in case, I believe we should lynch the confirmed Cylons.
Epignosis has been acting very mafioso since I started accusing S~V~S of being Cavil. ObscureAllure is an option too, and I don't discard Wilgy.
You think confirmed colons should be lynched first but you put me before Wigly?! Wtf?! Since when am I confirmed anything? Wigly is a CONFIRMED CYLON with a higher chance of being bad than good based on statistics. I have evidence showing I'm good and I'm not a confirmed Cylon so I have a higher chance of showing up civvie.... But me before him. Riiiiiiiight. And you wonder why I said I think you and SVS are bad? I think you set up her getting lynched on purpose and you're saving Wigly now.
Golden has not made a host post mentioning anything about this "unlynchable" status that you've supposedly been awarded.John Cavil wrote:
You can be an honorary toaster
And laws can't change mechanics
Again, thanks for the help. Night Hoomans, lol.
Damn right.S~V~S wrote:#9
I have been patient with you, Polo, becasue you are so fucking proud of yourself. But since you have not been punished, that means you are *pretending* to info dump, especially after making your case hanging around like a vulture as people vote. And if I am going to be mislynched (and I am
You're wrong. If you lynch me, John Cavil isn't going to be lynched today.
Posted 10 times already, I have. Herh herh herh.S~V~S wrote:Polo, you;re still around, right?
Heard of the Boomslang Gambit have you, hmm?S~V~S wrote:#9
I have been patient with you, Polo, becasue you are so fucking proud of yourself. But since you have not been punished, that means you are *pretending* to info dump, especially after making your case hanging around like a vulture as people vote. And if I am going to be mislynched (and I am
You're wrong. If you lynch me, John Cavil isn't going to be lynched today.
Been playing fair this whole game, I have, and no reason for me to waste my time on this website if I had to cheat in order to win, there would be.S~V~S wrote:#6
@Polo
If I find out post game that this is based on any kind of perception of info, like your role had a block and you blocked someone and no one died, or a protection, or whatever, and you got false info becasue of it, I will never ever let you live it down. Info dumping, especially faux info dumping, is the thing I hate most. Fair play > winning.
So you are wrong, but if you think you are right for info related reasons, you basically alienated me and I hope it was worth it for you. Becasue proving people wrong is my favorite thing ever.
I have got the feeling you are bluffing and that you would ever lynch S~V~S not. And not, this is because you think she is good, because you know, not, is she. Herh herh herh.G-Man wrote:And this vote puts me in a quandary. I'd like to stick to voting for one of my bad reads. Both BR and SVS are among those reads but they are my #4 and 3 respectively. We need to stop spreading the votes around, so voting my top two seem to be off the table. I just don't think BR is going to have much traction but I also want to spend some time reading up SVS's progression on bea in case that makes me feel any better or worse on her.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Forgot the vote needs its own line.
Black Rock
This is post #5.
Colony, a cylon settlement is. Herh herh herh.Golden wrote:Man I hope polo keeps calling mafia 'colons' in all future games of mafia:
Pretty good at hiding, you were, John Cavil.S~V~S wrote:#5 yes polo, we get it, you think I am bad. Good luck with that you are wrong.
You think S~V~S may be mafia you say. You vote her tonight too would, hmm?G-Man wrote:Admiral wants us to post reads and cut to the chase. For that reason, I'm going to eliminate neutral/unsure reads for all except the four rezzed player. These GTH-esque classifications are based on votes and notes.
Black Rock- Bad
Dex- ?
DrumBeats- Bad
DrWilgy- Good
Epignosis- Good
insertnamehere- Good
JaggedJimmyJay- Good
juliets- ?
Matt- Good
Nerolunar- ?
ObscureAllure- Good
Polo- Good
rabbit8- Good
Ricochet- Good
S~V~S- Bad
sig- Good
SokothQultuq- Bad
Spacedaisy- ?
I will try to elaborate on a few of these once I get home from the office. I still have more work to do.
This is post #3.
Wait. If been saying I S~V~S is as bad as have, then bad too I am, hmm?ObscureAllure wrote:LBlack Rock – Good
Dex – Cylon/Bad
Drumbeats – Good
DrWilgy - Cylon/Bad
Epignosis – Cylon/Good
G-Man – Cylon/Dunno?
InsertNameHere – Good
JaggedJimmyJay – Good
Juliets – Cylon/Good
Matt – Good
Nerolunar – Cylon/Good
ObscureAllure – Best
Polo – F5 bad if SVS is bad
Rabbit8 – Good
Richochet – Cylon/Bad
S~V~S – Cylon/Bad if Polo is F5 bad
Sig – Good
Soko - Good
SpaceDaisy – Good
Post one
Hiding in plain sight and is trying as hard as possible to appear civ, is she, and treating baddies with caution giving civ reads on people as civ universally read. Yeesssssss.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If you could choose just one word to describe the origin of your suspicion for S~V~S, what would it be? I don't mean your confidence level, I mean her specific offense -- summarize it in a single word.Polo wrote:Oh, I am so anxious for your lynch or, on worst case scenario, for endgame. I will be proven right.
If you can't, give me a brief phrase. This might sound pointless, but I have my reasons for asking.
Made out of at least two original cylons and at least one ressurrected FF, I think mafia is. Yeesssssss.DrumBeats wrote: @ Linki Polo A lot of Civ reads in there. Do you believe that the mafia is composed of two people + some F5 now, or do you believe there to be more? Don't respond immediately, wait for some more things so you don't waste your posts, you've already lost two. I would like an actual case on SVS too please.
I've addressed this previously. I believe that mafia has one character whose nightpower is to find out a player's role or, at the very least, someone who can see on who a player targeted their power.Ricochet wrote:Mafia doesn't find out the role of the victims, unless they have such a power role. Are you implying the Mafia has this?Polo wrote:The only way you could be sure that it'd be impossible for me to have info is if you know you killed the character that can have that information.S~V~S wrote:Are you claiming to have info? Becasue that would be impossible. And that would be the only 100% you could have, tbh.Polo wrote:High enough for me to say this: if she's lynched and she's not Cylon, then you can lynch me on the next day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Polo, what degree of confidence do you have in your read on S~V~S?
I am 100% sure she's mafia.
And Jay, I kept poking her over & over, and she kept not responding. Since the Nutella lynch. Had she just once poked back, I would have backed off, but she never did, and she posted tons
This exchange is... intriguing.
Who do you think he is, then? On the game I played with civ Wilgy he kept trying too hard to be quirky and weird but started taking it serious once he found out he needs to help.ObscureAllure wrote:Show me why you think he's Conoy. Show me. Because he says he's not bad? Show me actual evidence.Polo wrote:Interesting. I think this means ObscureAllure is Caprica Six, which is why she is not comfortable with leaving Sig and Wilgy alive.
Wilgy is the only of those who is a confirmed Cylon, which means I have been wrong in believing he was Caprica Six; this means he is probably Leoben Conoy. And after a quick read at lore I think I know what is Leoben's rolepower.
Interesting. I think this means ObscureAllure is Caprica Six, which is why she is not comfortable with leaving Sig and Wilgy alive.
There was no bad intent in this post; I found that picture today and decided to use for I was just trying to break the ice. I'm sorry if you felt that way and I won't do this again.S~V~S wrote:OK, done talking to you. No need to be rude.Polo wrote:S~V~S wrote:There's also the chance I don't have an NK, you lovable nut.
S~V~S wrote:There's also the chance I don't have an NK, you lovable nut.
on #2 (also answering DrumBeats question): the thing is - the two #8 models may not be following lore to the book. I don't know if Goldama is being very liberal with regards to the show's lore, so he may have inverted the two Sharons in order to make this game even weirder.Matt wrote:You've now ignored my request, TWICE, to show me where you think I "slipped" in regards to knowing wth you were refering to about Long Con.ObscureAllure wrote:DrumBeats wrote:I'm not Matt, but I think it is a possibility for how the final five mechanic could come into play. I remember people saying/looking into it on the wiki, that of the final five, most of them sided with the humans in the show and one sided with the cylons. I'm wondering if the cylons have a role that lets them recruit the final five over to their side.ObscureAllure wrote:MATT
DO YOU
THINK
RECRUITMENT
IS VERY LIKELY
IN THIS
GAME?!
I need Matt *specifically* to answer that.
You, like Rico, and several cylons, were against saying the magic "I am a Cylon" phrase.
You have been insulting towards me, again and again, in an attempt to discredit my ideas, I think. Based on the way several treat you around here, I doubt that is your usual MO so I have to believe it's a baddie tactic.
Hrm.
Anyway, right now, I'm interested in three things above all...
1) The discrepancy of SSWA punishments.
2) sig's idea that Glorfy is good and Epi is bad. 'Sides Rico, anyone have any thoughts on that? Either sig is a bullshitter and bad...or he's not.
3) I can no longer ignore Polo despite believing for several phases now that SVS was a certain civvie role. You are 100%, Polo? Really?
There's also the chance that she could NK me in order to make people believe I was just a conspiracy theorist and then everyone ignores that she's mafia and she escapes unscathed. Is this a possibility you ignore?ObscureAllure wrote:No? Because if she isn't Mafia, the Mafia would just NK you to set her up? And if she is Mafia, why would she NK you after you've shouted her name for days with out any evidence (and that's making you look bad?) [wifom]I would just continue letting you dig your own grave[/wifom]Polo wrote:Can you assure me that if I'm NK'd tonight you will vote for S~V~S tomorrow?ObscureAllure wrote:Either SVS or Polo is bad. Frankly, the fact that Polo is saying that he's 100% sure without posting evidence as to why and ISNT getting punished makes me think he's full of shit. I said something way less confirmative and got punished for it. If tomorrow is Polo vs SVS, I guess we will find out which one.
I'm still waiting on someone to tell me why we aren't lynching confirmed Cylon Wigly?!?? One in three (or more) chance of being bad as opposed to the unknown player who is about 2 in three chance of being civvie!?!
Linki: WIGLY, sig (although I think I may have found an alternative situation in my reread here so I reserve the right to remove), rabbit (I think Zebra was recruited), Matt, and either Polo or SVS
If they have a character with a role-discovering power, they can know who they are going to elliminate.DrumBeats wrote:Wait, is that how things work here? On this site, do the mafia know what role they killed, or is it unknown to them too?Polo wrote:S~V~S wrote:Are you claiming to have info? Becasue that would be impossible. And that would be the only 100% you could have, tbh.Polo wrote:High enough for me to say this: if she's lynched and she's not Cylon, then you can lynch me on the next day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Polo, what degree of confidence do you have in your read on S~V~S?
I am 100% sure she's mafia.
And Jay, I kept poking her over & over, and she kept not responding. Since the Nutella lynch. Had she just once poked back, I would have backed off, but she never did, and she posted tons
The only way you could be sure that it'd be impossible for me to have info is if you know you killed the character that can have that information.
Can I answer this when I get back from work?DrumBeats wrote:Polo, response please.DrumBeats wrote:Elaborate. Tell us where/why if you want to convince us. It's going to take a hell of a good reason, and based on your SVS post, I'm not confident you can deliver.Polo wrote: The more I read back into this game, the more I believe Glorfindel could have been civ and that Epignosis could be mafia.
Can you assure me that if I'm NK'd tonight you will vote for S~V~S tomorrow?ObscureAllure wrote:Either SVS or Polo is bad. Frankly, the fact that Polo is saying that he's 100% sure without posting evidence as to why and ISNT getting punished makes me think he's full of shit. I said something way less confirmative and got punished for it. If tomorrow is Polo vs SVS, I guess we will find out which one.
I'm still waiting on someone to tell me why we aren't lynching confirmed Cylon Wigly?!?? One in three (or more) chance of being bad as opposed to the unknown player who is about 2 in three chance of being civvie!?!
Linki: WIGLY, sig (although I think I may have found an alternative situation in my reread here so I reserve the right to remove), rabbit (I think Zebra was recruited), Matt, and either Polo or SVS
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Separately, I would assert that S~V~S's responses to Polo's pressure have been robotic and emotionless. I can understand a concerted effort to avoid blowing up, but everyone has limits and I am seeing this as less authentic. I also know that in my own baddie game, emotionlessness is probably my most significant tell (I'm working on it.
S~V~S wrote:Are you claiming to have info? Becasue that would be impossible. And that would be the only 100% you could have, tbh.Polo wrote:High enough for me to say this: if she's lynched and she's not Cylon, then you can lynch me on the next day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Polo, what degree of confidence do you have in your read on S~V~S?
I am 100% sure she's mafia.
And Jay, I kept poking her over & over, and she kept not responding. Since the Nutella lynch. Had she just once poked back, I would have backed off, but she never did, and she posted tons
You had 17 civ reads versus S~V~S's 18 civ reads but I've been reading you as civ.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If she is bad that's exciting, because the "whoever has the most townies in the GTH reads exercise is most likely to be bad" theory would be supported.
S~V~S: I'm not convinced you gave bea enough breathing room to have a fair chance of changing your mind.
High enough for me to say this: if she's lynched and she's not Cylon, then you can lynch me on the next day.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Polo, what degree of confidence do you have in your read on S~V~S?
It's funny that only 2 of the 7 people you read as bad are still alive. One of them is a confirmed Cylon who we believe is Civ (DrWilgy) and Sig.S~V~S wrote:If I recall correctly, I got a bit of a scolding from JJJ for having too many civs on that list, but OK. You're on it
I've got my eyes on the people you read as good on the Day 4 GTH reads, and I'm certain your teammates are among those.S~V~S wrote:Persistent little devil aren't you? Um no. No teammates here. I also doubt OA is bad.
Nope, you're very mistaken on that.SokothQultuq wrote:And some more...
Polo – Cylon
The pusher. Polo was extremely intent on pushing the Claim back on Week 5 and oddly so. Yes to some this might look very “Good” but to me it screamed “bad”. Why? It was pretty over the top. The emotional outburst that came from this person was someone who was trying way, way too hard in my opinion. So I’m inclined to believe that Polo could very well be a Cylon.
Rabbit8 – Good
I’ve honestly not seen enough posts from Rabbit to gain an opinion. Some of the posts they made when they first jumped into the game were a little strange, defensive even but people sure were jump to slam on them when they got on. So Time will tell here. For now I have to vote good and give Rabbit the benefit of the doubt.
Ricochet – Cylon
After all the hub bub with both Polo and Myself going around as well as a few others. Then the crap with Dr. Wilgy, this person still refuses to claim as part of the “Greater Good” for the town. It might be jumping the gun but I’m more incline to vote to lynch someone who cannot see the benefit of going along with the plan that the majority of the group and town has asked. If hardly anyone had claimed then I can see sticking to ones guns. I do appreciate that you are sticking by your word but its suspicious to me so I think you are either a cylon or bad cylon sympathizer.
S~V~S – Cylon
SVS in my opinion has played all over the place, but what stands out the most to me is their defense of people who I am certain are bad. Namely Dr.W. What is with the stance on Cain? Leaving someone in charge of the fleet who will get us all killed just to whack as many toasters as possible and leave no chance for humans to survive. Yes it’s a Lore/RP aspect but an important turning point for what happened to Galactica and what remained of the Humans. To think Cain was not a threat, that is something I take issue with. So I’m leaning towards bad.
Epignosis wrote:That's good to know.Polo wrote:My suspicion of him has nothing to do with what he thinks about my post.
What is your suspicion of me based on?
Is this something I should ignore? Is ObscureAllure's emoticon event something I should ignore too? Could you be Mafia instead of Boomer?Golden wrote:Thank goodness for the Wills of the Dead Act because Epignosis is not who he appears to be!
Living an unnaturally long life, the Great Deceiver will arise and vanquishing her fairer twin, on the octave, lead the people in error to calamity.
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether you disagree with me on BTSC or not, but out of all people in this game, you were the only one to confront me on that little big post. There's loads more stuff on my post that you can talk about.S~V~S wrote:Well, it seems like it could be a pattern.
Question; in a Mafia game where we post publicly in a thread, how else am I to disagree with you than "publicly"?
I appreciate you coming up with this. But you did not like the way I reacted to your post, so you went back through my posts & votes looking for things that fit your preconceived idea.
