The Syndicate

I wish I had made it more clear that I wanted you guys to go after Donna before I died. I pretty much handed her to you guys. Good game, everyone!

PS: This is all Jerry's fault.

insertnamehere wrote:all the dead players right now:

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Ron Swanson wrote:Thank fuck I'm dead and don't have to assess a wall of text from Jo-Poopio.

I just did. I don't recommend it.

Apparently the poll closes 12 minutes later than I expected. Now this is just awkward.

If I'm wrong about Donna, please look at Ben. His back and fourth with Jerry for the whole game may hold some clues. I didn't say anything till now because I needed his vote and I believe more strongly in the case against Donna.

Also, I found this picture of him with a blonde bimbo at the unity concert. I think he's been having an affair with her for years and she may be the real mother of my children.




KNOPE OUT!

Jerry Gergich wrote:Please don't lynch me. I have a wife and kids.

You should have thought about that before you murdered Li'l Sebastian, you monster. NOW I'LL WAVE YOUR SEVERED HEAD ON A STICK IN FRONT OF YOUR WEEPING FAMILY!!!

If I win the coin toss, that is.

I never thought I'd say this, but I wish Tom would show up for work.

Maybe his GPS broke.

Ron Swanson wrote:Leslie, I'm reading your analysis, but where are the conclusions? I rubbed my eyes after reading a first wall of text that ended in you stating the obvious about how Jerry voted by... quoting his votes. What?

I think there's a Chris, Jerry, Donna connection. I could be wrong, and I know it's reminiscent of when I said you and April were working together, but we have more to go on now.

The voting record, the way they all follow a similar pattern in how they vote and post, the way none of them contributed in any meaningful way all come as close to possible to confirming it in my book.

I'm trying to help out as much as I can before I'm killed. My death has been inevitable for a while now. When I come up Vanilla Townie, I hope my "overanalysis" as you put it helps my fellow civs to become victorious and save Pawnee.

Now we move on to my next subject, Donna.

To start:

Donna Meagle wrote:Leslie, Ann and Andy seem ok, but I am less convinced of them than the others. .

Donna Meagle wrote:I feel pretty great about you, Ron and Ben being on the side of good.
To a lesser extent I would say Ann and Leslie.
Chris and Jerry round out the middle of the pack for me.
J-R's posts hurt my head.
I have growing concerns about Tommy one post as well as Chris's fixation with "evil Leslie."
Jamm and Bobby have dropped off the face of the Earth so hard that I forgot about them until I looked at the list. That's never good, but it's the holiday weekend so I hope they come back around.

Donna Meagle wrote:I voted for Jamm because Ron had made a comment about "faxing the quiet ones to get them to play." Of the people who were quiet, Jamm was the most suspicious to me. I honestly had no idea what happened after I voted till I read back post lynch.

I think Leslie came off the last lynch looking town. She's always been second tier town, behind April and Ron in my list and that hasn't changed.

I had Chris placed middle of the road day 2, but day 3 is looking a little different. His posts read frantic and scattered. Like he knows he's caught. I think that's a good vote today.

I agree with Ron that Bobby Newport has the air of finding a "new life" so to speak. Tom is still far too quiet this late in the game. I know I'm a bit in the "pot/kettle" club, but I do try to put some quality into the posts even if I can't have the quantity.

J-R is so immersed into his role play that all I can think when I read his posts is "thinking requires having a brain. I doubt one exists here."

Jerry's quiet vote on Chris as well as not addressing how he was almost lynched is disturbing.

For me, today it's between Jerry and Chris. I'm leaning more toward Chris though, I think his posts feel more, as April would say, gross than Jerry's.

Donna Meagle wrote:Leslie brings up a reasonable point that the Chris and Jerry votes could be seen as distancing. Why do you think that is not the case and that Leslie and Chris are partners?

All of that ^

Then this:

Donna Meagle wrote:Looking at our numbers there 9 players remaining. 2 of them are Mafia. So at this moment in time, we have 7 civs to 2 mafia.

If we lynch a mafia, we get to be 7 civs to 1 mafia. Mafia Night kill and we are down 6 civs 1 Mafia.
If by some sad twist of fate, we lynch a civ, we are down 8 civs 2 mafia - Mafia Night kill, we are down to 6 civs and 2 mafia. Still a majority going into the next lynch. It's getting tight for sure, but it's not yet lynch or lose. One of the two of them seems to be playing us.

I don't think that Leslie and Jerry are on the same team one of them has to be bad, and I think it's Leslie. She started the doom and gloom. She's saying she sounded more sincere than Jerry even though, technically, our numbers grow tighter today than they were yesterday. And continue to do so every day. Jerry sounds frustrated in his role play, and like his role play, feels like the easy scapegoat.

I'm placing my vote on Leslie.

Remember Chris' 180 on day 2?

Now on to Donna's reasons for voting on the first three days:

Donna Meagle wrote:Ok, things are blowing up here faster than Kanye's last breakdown. I'm voting Bill.

Looking forward to hearing more from my fellow quiet players going forward while I work on stepping up my own game.

Meagle out.

Day 1.

Donna Meagle wrote:I hear ya Ron. Concider this a fax.

Vote = Jamm.

I will try to be back closer to vote end to see if more develops. But the office is about to be crazier than a night at the snakehole lounge soon.

Day 2 she votes Jamm. Before this post, she had mentioned Jamm one time. In this post:

Donna Meagle wrote:I thought I had been doing that April, but I will try again with less role play.

I feel pretty great about you, Ron and Ben being on the side of good.
To a lesser extent I would say Ann and Leslie.
Chris and Jerry round out the middle of the pack for me.
J-R's posts hurt my head.
I have growing concerns about Tommy one post as well as Chris's fixation with "evil Leslie."
Jamm and Bobby have dropped off the face of the Earth so hard that I forgot about them until I looked at the list. That's never good, but it's the holiday weekend so I hope they come back around.

Donna Meagle wrote:I'm going to go ahead and vote Chris now. I really don't see a point in delaying this any further.

She, too, appears to vote for Chris out of obligation. The same way Jerry did.

Chris Traeger wrote:Leslie, I appreciate your initiative in putting forward the idea of the no lynch option. But I have to disagree. If we don't lynch someone, we simply turn our Day 1 situation into Day 2. And we have let the mafia have a kill without any effort whatsoever to catch one of them. I have to admit that I find you a little suspicious, but keep that energy flowing, I'm loving it!

Chris on day 1. I knew when I made that suggestion that some people would attempt to take advantage of it. Some have raised it as a genuine concern, which I understand. Ron and Andy both dismissed it as nonsense. I didn't respond to a lot of the criticism of it intentionally because I wanted to see if someone (or a group of someones) would try to take it and run with it.

Now I'd like to get into what I'm thinking so far. I'd like to start with voting records.

Day 1: Bill (Vanilla Townie) is killed. The people who voted for him were: April, Craig, Ben, Ann, Chris, Ron, Donna

April Ludgate wrote:These Bill votes are gross:

Chris Traeger
Donna Meagle

I voted for Ron
Jerry voted for Ben
Andy voted for me
Jean-Ralphio voted for Tom

Bill Dexhart, Bobby Newport, Jeremy Jamm and Tom Haverford didn't vote.

Day 2: Jamm (Vanilla Townie) is lynched.

Donna, Chris, and I voted for him. Donna and Chris' votes seem to come out of nowhere and with no substantial evidence or case against Jamm at all. My vote was out of self-preservation.

Jean-Ralphio voted for Andy
Tom voted Ben
Ben voted Jerry
Andy, April, and Ron voted for me.
Ann voted Ron
Jamm voted Tom

Missing votes were Newport and Jerry. This was Newport's second missed vote, and it likely led to his replacement.

Day 3: Chris (mafia goon) is lynched.

Votes for him were Ron, myself, Newport, Jerry, Donna, Jean-Ralphio

Ben and Chris voted for Jerry
Andy voted for me

Missing votes were Ann and Tom. This was Tom's second missed vote and the rules don't say anything about whether or not being replaced requires consecutive missed votes. It's possible that this was simply overlooked before, but we should also consider the possibility Tom has been replaced, yet still remains silent.

Day 4: Jerry and I are up for lynch.

Votes for Jerry: Myself, Andy, Ben, Ron
Votes for me: Bobby, Jean-Ralphio, Jerry, Donna

Chris Traeger wrote:Hey team! I just got back from a meeting with Councilman Hauser that took a little longer than I anticipated, then I had to fire Sewage Joe because he thought it would be appropriate to send out pictures of his genitalia to Ann Perkins. Definitely not appropriate by the way, please don't do that. Now I am on the way out the door for my 5 o'clock spin class. I'm the instructor of course, no one else challenges me as well as I challenge myself.

I feel most comfortable with the case against Bill. So I will be casting my vote for him! How fun!

Chris' reason for voting on day 1.

Chris Traeger wrote:It seems my vote came at a point to tie it up. When last I looked at the votes, Jerry was leading by a decent margin but I felt more suspicious of Jeremy Jamm as I was reading. I am still catching up with my reading, but my vote was not intended to create a tie, since I wasn't even aware that it was going to do so. I literally cast my vote with two or three minutes to spare I think and then fought with my vote post for another minute or two after that because my Gryzzl internet was being a little difficult for some reason. I can understand how you might find it suspicious, but it was nothing more than a coincidence. I was not protecting Jerry. Also a coincidence, I dated Jerry's lovely daughter Milicent and she broke my heart. Good times!

Chris' reason for voting on day 2. Despite voicing suspicion for Jerry previously, he does a complete 180 and casts a vote for Jamm.

Chris Traeger wrote:Well, it seems inevitable that all you lovely people are going to make the mistake of lynching me. I'll vote for Jerry Gergich. Oh! And I see that My good friend Ben Wyatt has voted there as well! Good choice old pal! Once I flip civ I recommend you all give some serious scrutiny to the people who keep repeating the lie that I was not doiung anything but roleplaying. I'm certain you'll find your baddies among them. I suppose this means I won't like to be 150 years old after all, that makes me sad. Maybe one last call to Dr. Richard Nygard so that I can go out smiling! Good luck civilians!

Chris on day 3. Now that Jerry is not really on the chopping block, Chris votes for him.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Gosh, you are all so nice. I don't want to lynch any of you. But Ben and Chris are new around here, and Ben seems to be trying a little too hard, plus he didn't cry at L'il Sebastian's funeral, and he also made me play Cones of Dunshire with him.

Sorry Ben.

Jerry day 1.

He didn't vote on day 2, which was 72-hours long for Thanksgiving.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Hey gang! Sorry I've been away, but I accidentally ran over myself with my car. I'm okay though, just bruises mostly. I have always though Chris' enthusiasm seemed phony, and I am happy to vote for him today.

Jerry day 3. He says nothing about the arguments against Chris and seems to vote for him out of obligation.

More to come...

Donna Meagle wrote:Looking at our numbers there 9 players remaining. 2 of them are Mafia. So at this moment in time, we have 7 civs to 2 mafia.

If we lynch a mafia, we get to be 7 civs to 1 mafia. Mafia Night kill and we are down 6 civs 1 Mafia.
If by some sad twist of fate, we lynch a civ, we are down 8 civs 2 mafia - Mafia Night kill, we are down to 6 civs and 2 mafia. Still a majority going into the next lynch. It's getting tight for sure, but it's not yet lynch or lose. One of the two of them seems to be playing us.

I don't think that Leslie and Jerry are on the same team one of them has to be bad, and I think it's Leslie. She started the doom and gloom. She's saying she sounded more sincere than Jerry even though, technically, our numbers grow tighter today than they were yesterday. And continue to do so every day. Jerry sounds frustrated in his role play, and like his role play, feels like the easy scapegoat.

I'm placing my vote on Leslie.

We're better off today than we were yesterday as far as outnumbering mafia goes, but each civ death has more "weight" to it, statistically, because there are less people. I find it odd that you come out to vote for me because I want to lynch bad guys instead of good guys. We're still in the game if I'm lynched, but the numbers get tighter and there will be less room for error.

Your argument against me is so obviously, ridiculously fabricated.

Andy Dwyer wrote:for the record, donna just did a huge flip flop to (maybe) save jerry

This.

Andy Dwyer wrote:Ron, Im okay with jerry or leslie being lynched and just want to rbing this sdiscsussion point up

One of us is a vanilla townie; the other is Jerry.

Ben Wyatt wrote:This feels suspiciously similar to Chris' Jamm vote. Both did Jerry a big favor.

Donna is now definitely on my radar.

Same here.

Ben Wyatt wrote:And it looks like the swing vote's going to be...Tom Haverford.

Terrific.

I've already started drinking.

Anyway, I'm going to review Chris' votes and post history once more and hopefully come back with a helpful post or chart just in case I die in 5 hours.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I am trying to stay relatively in character, yes. I haven't given up, but I feel like there is very little I can say in defense that will convince anyone. I was distancing from Chris? How do I disprove that? To me it seems clear that my suspicion was sincere, since I was advocating to lynch him and voted for him. Others don;t see it that way.

My case against you is flimsy? Of course it is. It's based on my gut read of your tone, plus you vote on Day One. Actually, your sincerity and honesty in these questions is making me rethink my read of you a bit.

I would say one final thing in my defense. You must see that I would be a very easy lynch at this point, and what would mafia like more than an easy lynch of a civilian who has been largely too busy to develop substantive cases or elaborate defenses? I'll admit that I haven't been the greatest asset for the civilians this game, but I fear that another mislynch will cinch it for the Mafia

Like I've said and demonstrated before, my votes aren't set in stone. Give me one legitimate reason why I shouldn't vote for you. You keep saying you're the easy lynch, but we're tied 50/50, so it's obviously not the case. You're also saying that another bad lynch "will" seal the deal for the mafia, which is what I said before we lynched Chris, but you're coming off as disingenuous as Chris did.

How do you disprove that you were distancing yourself from Chris? Provide us with reasons why you've made the decisions you've made. What was your case against Ben again?

Jean-Ralphio wrote:That's not a nope Knope! What say later tonight we discuss some possibilities: I bring the wine, you bring the FINE! If TomTom ever shows back up he can hook us up with that jacuzzi limo and we can do a little-scrub-a-dub-dub clean you up in the hottub, you dirty girl you!

I'm married.

Jean-Ralphio wrote:For serious, I think we need to recognize the advice Andy's been giving us since Day1....Leslie is bad, and here's why (srsly, can't remember evr being this lucid since I tried E for the first time shortly after my Bar Mitzvah) She seemed off a bit in the start, but most first day reads can be ALL SORTS of wiggety-wiggety-wiggety-whack, right? But over the next couple days, here's a breakdown of what I'm scopin':
D2: suspects ron and andy, eyes jerry, says Chris is hard to get a read on, votes ron but later changes it to Ben and shortly thereafter says it'll go to Tom or Jerry (like the cartoon! LOL)finally landing on Jerry and then disses YOURS TRULY calling me an Eagletonian carsalseman or soething which is really masking how much she relly wants a ride on the J-R EXPRESS with stops at arousal and exhilaration station!...but I digress...at the end of the day she says "It's more likely Jeremy's bad than me. You guys forced my hand." and follows that up with

Leslie Knope wrote:I really hope Jamm's bad. Otherwise we just voted for two civvies. He's on my suspicious list anyway, so if I survive then we'll know for sure.

...JJ later turns up civ,but not before Leslie is quick to point out:

Leslie Knope wrote:Let the record show it was April and Ron who waited until the last minute to vote for me.

So basically in the span of a day, the Knopester throws 5 different people under the bus! That just don't smell right to me, and I should know having been the PERSONAL scentier to none other than Mr. Dennis FEINSTEIN himself!

First of all you're disgusting and it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever happen in a million years. Second, this has all be discussed to death and what kind of effort were you putting forward? Third, I didn't (and still don't, but I'm getting a slightly better idea) know who I could trust. Fourth. You're gross.

Jean-Ralphio wrote:I think she was targeting Jerry because he's yur typical shy, quiet simpleton who would make a GREAT patsy and Ron because he was the most vocal threat after April (who had been all but confirmed as civ) and Ann, who was later taken out after making a hard push against Leslie & Chris on D3.

I'm not "targeting" anyone. I'm voting for Jerry because I think he's a scumbag. Just like I thought Chris was a scumbag.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I don't elaborate. I'm just in charge of the filing. Mafia elaborate. Because their schemes are elaborate.

Still no argument or case for your innocence then? Mafia scheme, evade, and murder. Civilians reason and debate. Right now you're doing one of the bad ones with your evasiveness.

I voted for Chris because Ron found an obvious and gaping inconsistency in Chris' story I wish I could say I'd found. Yes, it does seem like I placed my vote rashly and quickly, but I also had room to be convinced to change my vote to someone else if more convincing evidence had arised. I didn't because Chris' defense wasn't sufficient and, if anything, more damning. Not only toward himself, but also toward Jerry. I was the second person to place a vote for Chris - immediately after Ron. Jerry was the fourth and he did it quietly.

I understand that I've been all over the place and the only way to truly prove my innocence is by dying, but we got one of those bastards yesterday and I want to get another one of them today. My vote stays with Jerry for now.

Bobby Newport wrote:Chris got lynched trying to save Leslie. And Leslie voted for self-preservation. Open and shut case. If Leslie isn't bad, then Donna is for saying things I don't like.

Jamm got lynched that round. When Chris got lynched, I only had one vote and he had six.

And what do you mean about Donna?

RIP Ann, you sweet, beautiful, naive, exotic princess.

I still think that Chris was trying to save Jerry and that they were both trying to distance themselves from each other. We got one, so I'm voting for the other this time around. Hopefully we knock out two of these bastards in a row.

I won't have access to a computer for most of tomorrow, but I should be on one all day Friday to keep up on new developments. For now, I'm parking my vote in Jerry's spot.

Oh, Ann. You're so beautiful nobody would've noticed. Or least cared to criticize.

[quote="Chris Traeger]Regarding Leslie, I don't think inaccurate = town. I do think her particular inaccuracies only seem to jive with a civilian mind set. I explained it pretty clearly I think. Letting her vote for me change your mind is silly, teammates bus all the time. We are not on a baddie team together though, she is not bussing me. I believe she is town, and misguided town at that. But it's ok, I still think she's literally the best person I know[/quote]
I'm on my phone here, so bare with me. Something stinks here and it's not just protein farts. From my perspective, being the only civ who knows for sure I'm civ, this looks like you're trying to make it look like we're working together so people will come after me when you turn out to be evil.

I firmly believe that you put your vote on Jamm to give Jerry a better shot at survival, thinking that nobody would suspect your involvement when Jerry or I got lynched.

I also think Jerry quietly cast his vote for you to further distance himself and your ISO of him was disingenuous at best.

Hey gang, busy day today. Just skimmed all the recent posts since my last login. Jerry's definitely stuck out to me as suspicious. Nothing mentioned on his near-lynching? No comment on people's criticisms of him?

Anyway, I'll read more in depth while I'm eating my lunch. I usually get home a half hour before the vote is set to close, so probably no long posts for me because I won't have a computer to type on.

Andy Dwyer wrote: those weren't the words you talked
you said it was more likely.
it should be cARETAN
flippity floppy leslies!

I guess there's a reason you failed the tests to be a cop.

[quote="Andy Dwyer""]
....
nice flip flop !
DO YA GOT AN Y SANDALS!?

seriosuly though! Leslie J U S T named me and Jerry as her #1 suspects. Ron makes one post, Leslie on the surface agrees and now she's voting for CHRIS!T[/quote]
Well, that's because I learned new information. When I was four I thought that chocolate milk came from brown cows, and then I flip-flopped when I found out that there was something called chocolate syrup.

Andy Dwyer wrote:is ur bike broken
bc u seem to be back pedalling awfully HARD!

Stating facts isn't back-pedaling. From now on, I'm not going to humor your ridiculous accusations unless you have something reasonable or legitimate to say. This is the third day of this and it's frankly ridiculous. You're ridiculous. And Bert Macklin isn't a real FBI agent.

Andy Dwyer wrote:explain this post as anything but a bad post
you can't

more LIKELY?
wouldn't it be CERTAAAIN if you were good!?

I was rushing to ensure that I got my post in before the coin toss I believed was going to lead to my death. I'm certain that I'm good, but I was uncertain about Jamm. The most logical decision in the moment was to change my vote to Jamm because I know I'm good.

Ron Swanson wrote:As for me, this brings me to Chris, for instance.

To say that you suspect Jerry, but vote Jamm, while Jerry was a serious contender, is a mighty suspicious move. The only way you could even consider absolving such a move would be if Chris would have had no f***ing clue what the tally situation is.

But Chris did not say that.

Chris Traeger wrote:When last I looked at the votes, Jerry was leading by a decent margin

So either Jerry was still in the lead, by one vote, and Chris, instead of voting Jerry who he still suspected, voted Jamm.
Either Jerry was tied with Leslie and Chris, instead of voting Jerry who he still suspected (over Leslie, for which he had stated nothing relevant whatsoever during the game), voted Jamm.

This either looks like a vote meant not to doom Jerry for good, or to offer Leslie a lifeline, given that she was stuck, while in a tie herself, on Jerry.

Chris is the common denominator in this, anyway.

A very good point, and a much stronger lead than Jerry at this time. I will also be placing my vote for Chris at this time. If a new lead shows up, I will be around to revise it.

Ron Swanson wrote:You're a pain in the ass, Knope. Your Day 1 narration was "April and Ron are colluding". Then your Day 2 narration was to still try to scramble around that. Now it's "Ron buddied to April". ***s sake.

I believe I changed my mind on that on day 2 and admitted that my logic was flawed. As far as the "Ron buddied up to April" bit, I was stating a possibility. I don't want to eliminate any possibility.

Andy Dwyer wrote:leslie KILLED april

I think you're a pretty solid lead, too. You've been accusing me this whole time with nothing to back it up and for both votes, you've attempted to get me lynched. On nothing. And you almost got your way in the last one. All you've been doing is voting for me because I'm being "unhelpful" or some such excuse and voting for me when I've been putting in an honest attempt to be helpful.

Right now my top suspects are:
Jerry
Andy

On my radar:
Ron
Chris
Tom

It's a numbers game, and if we keep lynching civilians, we're not going to win this.

RIP April

Ann Perkins wrote:Chris, can you give us a read on Leslie & Donna?
Donna, can you give a read on Chris & Leslie?
Leslie...? Same thing.

I don't really have much of a read on Donna. Compared to most of the people here, she has a rather low post count. As far as Chris goes, I may have mentioned this before, but I do find it somewhat suspicious that what he's been saying hasn't been much beyond roleplay, but he also hasn't said anything that's put up a red flag for me.

I realize that the events leading up to the last lynch don't look good for me. For those of you who missed it and may be confused by the posts, I'll admit that I changed my vote from Jerry to Jamm at the last minute to save myself. I know I'm a Vanilla Townie, and he was on my radar at the time. For the common good, I thought it was better to lynch him than me. I was acting in the moment, and I realized after it came out that he had the same role as me that it probably did more harm than good because most likely I'll be lynched next. Let's face it, our numbers are getting bad and they're about to get a whole lot worse if I'm lynched.

I still think Jerry is a solid lead, but I want to give him a chance to defend himself. I also think that Ron's buddying up with April could have been an attempt to hide in plain sight.

I love you, Ben.

Ron Swanson wrote:Top paragraph was about your friend. As for you, I express some degree of second doubts, nevertheless references all your bad marks.

I put myself out front both to lynch someone else I found suspicious (Jerry) and as an olive branch to you, whom I thought had been level-headed throughout all of this and at least earned the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I was mistaken.

Ron Swanson wrote:Councilwoman was in a rebuttal mode for most of the phase and she has thorough and reasonable at that. Some of the details are not absolving or ones I would describe as satisfactory, but overall I'd say feel better about her after this process.

Knope - up until a few hours ago, there were very little reasons to dissuade from a lead on her, with all the narration shifts on me and April, her speculation game regarding the mafia (April was already more eloquent to point out the nonsense), her deflections and such, if only not for the doubting thought of too much clumsiness in all of this. Plus, until Jerry became first wagon, she let herself in front, which inserts right away the doubt of whether she's not genuine in saying she's town "despite all there is".

Just to recap.

I definitely didn't get the "I'm voting for Councilwoman Knope" out of that.

"Confirmed" is a bit of a stretch. Even if I did buy myself time, it's prob not much

Let the record show it was April and Ron who waited until the last minute to vote for me.

Ron Swanson wrote:Either that or the 3-way was for Leslie to escape. But Chris' last line - vote synchronization makes little sense.

I know I'm a civvie. I don't know about Jamm. I'm going to vote to preserve what I know.

I don't know, Ron. What I do know is that three people I've been calling out pretty consistently all voted for me and two of them waited till the last minute.

Andy Dwyer wrote:

Leslie Knope wrote:It's more likely Jeremy's bad than me. You guys forced my hand.

wtf is this

That's me trying to keep a known civvie (myself) in the game over someone I find suspicious. Thanks to your baseless finger-pointing. If I do die, then I can't wait to see you try to walk it back.

I really hope Jamm's bad. Otherwise we just voted for two civvies. He's on my suspicious list anyway, so if I survive then we'll know for sure.

It's more likely Jeremy's bad than me. You guys forced my hand.

Andy Dwyer wrote:The only cop around here is ME, BERT MACKLIN




seriously though i wish i were a cop

I thought there was another post that seemed like an overt hint, but I've since dropped it. In hindsight it was obviously just roleplay, but I thought he was using the roleplay as a way to mask his real intentions at the time.

If I were mafia, why would I need to say in the thread that I thought he was pretending to be the cop? Wouldn't I have just had him killed? Instead, the real bad guys got the real cop and there's less than 5 minutes until we lynch someone else.

April, I was saying that I didn't buy it. If I had believed it, then obviously I wouldn't have said anything. And Andy wasn't the cop.

The game had just started and, other than April, nobody had posted anything that could be interpreted as relevant as strictly as you seem to interpret the word "relevant." You singled me out for what appears to be no apparent reason. I'm sorry I didn't know everyone else's roles right off the bat.

Andy Dwyer wrote: uh
no
you made long posts with no content in them. i found that suspicious.

Which posts? Also, what do you define as content?

Andy Dwyer wrote:leslie has yet to say a reason why she's against me.

I believe I did cover that briefly. You targeted me for no apparent reason, saying on day 1 after I had made just a couple of posts that I had added nothing of value before voting for me for no apparent reason. Since then, we've been going back and forth at each other about this. I saw this as an attempt to set me up for the lynch alongside Bill.

I haven't forgotten about this, but I have no reason to vote for you other than spite for your vote and the fact that you came after me for no reason. I know I'm a civvie, so your unsubstantiated attacks come across as inherently suspicious from my point of view.

I have 2 hours and 12 minutes, but I could have DST messed up in settings

April Ludgate wrote:
What do you think happened in that post then?

Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to say, but it could have just as easily been a typo.

April Ludgate wrote:

Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.

This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).

Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.

That's a fair point, but the bolded parts of this seem calculated to me:

Jerry Gergich wrote:I sure wonder why anyone would want to kill poor Craig. He barely posted, and only said nice things about April. If April was mafia, it could make sense for her to kill a defender, but nothing she has posted makes me think she would be so evil. I like to believe the best in people. Most likely it was a low poster kill designed to leave no clues at all. I guess I'd better step up my own game if I don't want the same thing to happen to me! It would be just my luck.

Maybe I'm just being a goofball, but it seems to me that a more active mafia is more likley to kill low posters than a more passive one, so I would want to look at higher posters. The highest posters so far are Ron, Andy, Ben, Ann, and April. I already know I trust April and already know I don't trust Ben, so that leaves me three more people to look at carefully before I vote. Just as soon as I finish this filing.

Ben Wyatt wrote:I guess I just fail to see "High posters = mafia" as a smart and logical assumption, coupled with his apparent desire to destroy me like a mediocre sandwich.

I think Gerry's mini-POE is BS, and nothing looks authentic or logical about his reasoning. (In my opinion.) It's all fluff that doesn't say anything but appears to say something. And his crusade against high posters seems like an easy way to both mislead the group, and get rid of the people who are actually contributing to the game.

Agreed. God you're so sexy when you say smart things.

Ron Swanson wrote:Oh great, it is endphase, nobody has said anything for almost an hour, eight players have already dumped their votes and I am co-wagon to be lynched.

Just how I imagined my evening.

You'll be fine tonight, Ron.

Who do you intend to vote for and what's your argument for doing so?

I'm still not taking my eye off of Ron or Andy, but Tom and Jerry haven't added anything of value and appear to be attempting to set Ben up or scatter the vote. It's a game of cat and mouse at this point. I get a worse vibe off of Jerry than I do Tom, but that could be because he's posted more.

I'm changing my vote to Jerry because I feel slightly stronger against him than Tom, but I'm willing to vote Tom. I realize I've been all over the place today, and I don't want to split the vote even more than we already have, but I also realize that changing my vote right now also puts me in danger of being lynched if no more votes come in, and I'm telling you all right now that I'm just trying to help.

You don't have to believe in me, but you should believe in Pawnee, and you should believe in getting justice for Li'l Sebastian.

Ron Swanson wrote:Are you planning to give any verdict on either of these three or did you just recap what they did by showing what they did?

I'm planning on changing my vote to Tom or Jerry, but I can't decide which one stinks more. Tom wears too much cologne, and of course there's the flatulence when it comes to Larry and/or Jerry.

I was merely trying to recap their posts and the similarities (eg Ben).

This is everything Tom has said:

Tom Haverford wrote:Ok, so I'm not saying I had more important things than finding out who is murdering people, but I had something to take care of.

I call it "Dunk-a-Gobbler." Imagine all the fun of a dunking booth, but instead of water you use hot oil, and instead of a person you use a turkey. Just perfect for any thanksgiving occasion.

Tom Haverford wrote:I'm about half caught up on what I should and am totes voting Ben.

His style is garbage and he probably is taking it out on others, so lets get him outa here.

About half caught up and totes voting Ben.

This is everything Jerry has said:

Jerry Gergich wrote:Hey guys, I'm here! I was late because I dropped my laptop in my soup. Butterfingers!

Jerry Gergich wrote:Gosh, you are all so nice. I don't want to lynch any of you. But Ben and Chris are new around here, and Ben seems to be trying a little too hard, plus he didn't cry at L'il Sebastian's funeral, and he also made me play Cones of Dunshire with him.

Sorry Ben.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Oh geez, I can't believe Craig is dead. That's so sad! You know, when I'm feeling a little down, my beautiful wife and daughters always cheer me up. But right now all I really want to do is find the killer. Ben was awful quick to get in here after the kill. I wonder if he was expecting it.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I sure wonder why anyone would want to kill poor Craig. He barely posted, and only said nice things about April. If April was mafia, it could make sense for her to kill a defender, but nothing she has posted makes me think she would be so evil. I like to believe the best in people. Most likely it was a low poster kill designed to leave no clues at all. I guess I'd better step up my own game if I don't want the same thing to happen to me! It would be just my luck.

Maybe I'm just being a goofball, but it seems to me that a more active mafia is more likley to kill low posters than a more passive one, so I would want to look at higher posters. The highest posters so far are Ron, Andy, Ben, Ann, and April. I already know I trust April and already know I don't trust Ben, so that leaves me three more people to look at carefully before I vote. Just as soon as I finish this filing.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Ron's my boss and he was good enough to give me a job, so I don't want to say anything mean about him. But his posts have seemed a little stilted to me. He's not as high up on my suspect tree as Ben and Chris, but he's not in the clear either.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I'm sorry if my work is not up to your standards lately, Chris. I ripped my pants somehow and had to spend most of the day sitting down to keep anyone from noticing. It was only a theory, and if you can see a connection between Craig and the killer, I would love to hear it! I just didn't see much in his posting to make me think of other people.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Looking at these files all day, I have to say that I think the killer is someone who posts a lot, and that it's very likely that at least one voter for Bill was bad. Cross referencing the two leads me to Ben, Ann, Chris, or Ron. Ron is just such a great guy, and after reading some more of his posts, I think I have to trust him for now.

That means I think we should lynch Ben, Ann, or Chris. Ann used the word "interesting" in her second post of the game, which to me always seems like a fluff word that doesn't say anything but appears to say something, so she is definitely on my radar.

Anyone else have thoughts on these three? I'm so lucky to work with such smart people.

It seems to me that they both have it out for Ben, and with no good reason other than the fact he's a nerd.

And don't get me started on Jean-Ralphio. Anyone who would choose to be, or even impersonate, that guy is going to the same depths of hell as Eagletonians and used car salesmen.

Off the top of my head, Tom. He's posted twice. Once about frying turkeys and once about voting for Ben. IIRC the post about voting for Ben was based entirely on nothing.

I was saying that the mafia would know off the bat if they had a godfather, and they would have a 50/50 shot at guessing whether or not there was a miller. If there were a miller, then there would be no way of definitively proving it or who is was unless the miller died. All we know is that the town cop w/n0 check died and that there's a chance April has been telling the truth. Also, there's a chance she isn't.

Unless I missed something, and please feel free to tell me if I did, only the mafia (and April, if she's not one of them) know for sure which setup we're in. They either have a godfather or a 1 shot vigilante, and they know what roles are in play and which ones aren't. From the information we have, we're either in C or 4.

Vote for me if you want, but we'll just be down another civvie and you're all going to spend the next day pointing fingers at each other.

I admit my reasoning this morning (vis a vis I'm alive therefore I was correct) didn't exactly make sense, but we're running out of time to find suspects.

Ben Wyatt wrote: That's...actually a really good point.

Can anyone else in the thread confirm that they have a role that doesn't fit into either 1 or C?

If no one else can disprove her claim, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, April Ludgate seems both trustworthy and legitimate.

I was looking through Ron's posts so I can gather all of the ones I find suspicious in one place, when I found this.

It appears as though Ben is attempting to get other people to out themselves. It's possible that he was unaware that that was what he was doing, but I think it deserves a second look.

As far as me "doubling down" on Ron as someone put it, I just found it incredibly suspicious that he so readily accepted that April is the Miller. Also, his assumption that the mafia didn't have BTSC on day 1 made it look like he was attempting to hide the fact that they did. While there was nothing explicitly written in the rules (from what I remember) saying that they did, there was also nothing saying that they didn't. I also don't like how both Ron and Andy accused me of not trying to be helpful with nothing to back that up.

Andy's attacks on me persist and we have gotten in an endless cycle of accusing each other because he singled me out for no apparent reason.

There are too many quiet people in this game. While it's possible my hypothesis of the mafia taking an active role to steer us against one another is true, I'm starting to think it's likely they're just sitting back and watching us do the work for them.

April Ludgate wrote:Leslie, you're making no sense. You say Craig outed himself, and then insinuate the baddies left you alive because of your reads.

If Craig outed himself they left you (and everyone) alive because they were killing the cop.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Speculative. Besides, the mafia just pinpointed and killed off the town cop. I don't think that tells us they're worried about using gloves in this game.

Killing me would have made sense if I were entirely off-base, because it would have made you, April, and Andy look guilty if you're all civvies.

Ugh. You're right, that doesn't make sense. I think I got carried away.

Ron Swanson wrote:Then how can you claim with certainty that Craig "outed himself"?

Craig Middlebrooks wrote:Oh my god, April claiming miller? That is so frickin precious. But I'll trust her, and I'll BURN THIS PLACE TO THE GROUND IF YOU LYNCH HER!

It's not definitive, and it's possible they could have just gotten lucky, but this seems to be the post where he outed himself.

Ron Swanson wrote:Taking a gamble to guess which of eight setups we're in is not a 50/50 gamble.

They know who the Godfather is, and choosing between 2 options is a 50/50 gamble.