The Syndicate

Hmpf. Always the loudmouths getting recognition.

I'm glad you also won though, April. Here's 20 bucks, go buy yourself something evil.

The only great things to remember out of this experience:

1. BWT has a hard time surviving a Day 1 even when under a sock
2. llama was Jerry. pffftthuhuhhuhuhu

Ok, changed to sock123.

Account cleared, I forgot what the original password was, but right now it's "suparon", so take it from there, Mr. Host.

I'm out. Cabin time. No tresspassing or I will shoot.

God damn you Tom.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Tom Haverford, who was Golden (who replaced Scotty, who replaced DrWilgy).

Please vote in the poll! The winner will be the next TV Sitcom game I submit into the Heist queue! And if you have suggestions or comments as to how to improve these Mafia Championship/Matrix-style games, I'm all ears.

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wow

To be honest, 51.5% of me wants to know why Tom was let hanging in this game for four phases, having just voted once and posted like, what, two times? No replacement, no modkill. And now he botched the lylo. Feels great.

I was eventually bullzeye on all three of the mafia, with Llerry my only bad lead in the game. I, for one, claim success.

notsawyer540 wrote:Ron Swanson is really Duke Silver!

Set aside your worries, ladies, and come bathe with me in the dead red of the Santa sled.

Ok, people, let us find a way here. And I by us, I mean you.

Leslie, I'm reading your analysis, but where are the conclusions? I rubbed my eyes after reading a first wall of text that ended in you stating the obvious about how Jerry voted by... quoting his votes. What?

Hunt approach number 2

Let us filter the candidates for mentions and/or attitudes towards Chris.

Andrew

Responded with an image of himself to one of Chris's posts that did not even involve or invoke him.
Dropped a comment (unlinked to any conversation, it seems) that he is unsure about Chris, though he enjoys his roleplay.
Next mention is on Day Three, good Lord! Says he'll read on Chris.
Barks at Leslie for voting Chris in an instant, after my published (hopefully Socky award winning come this spring) case on him.
Agrees with my entire case on him, adds him in his top three.
Asks Jerry for thoughts on more people than just Chris.
Replies to Chris in person (for the first time since the game began), just to point out to him that he's been charged for more than just heavy roleplaying.

This is content to frown at. There is enough distance here to fit in a herd of buffalos. The only line that feels flask is the last one - as in, why would Andrew bother to point that out to Chris, if they'd have chat to try to craft Chris's rebuttals carefully.

Let it be on the record that I'm frowning at Andrew for this content. *frowns* I told you to talk more about others, son.



Chimes in on me and Chris discussing April's claim.
Dismisses Andrew's idea that he is suspecting people for roleplay, giving the example that Chris, among others, would then be one of his targets.
Beginning of Day 3, sees validity in the Chris suspicion.
Chris vote pile-up gives him pause.
Asks Chris for legacy votes.

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Ok what the ***!!! I didn't sense this, but you also didn't address anything on Chris for two days?!
This is beyond deplorable. *frowns*



Newport

Only started breathing on Day three, Chris was immediately one of his suspects. The quote he chose, though, dates back to Chris talking about Bill on Day 1.

Sketchy momentum to include Chris in his susspool, but that D1 reference makes me think he's alone and had no idea what to grasp or (or, rather, tried to start from scratch in commenting on some people). Why would off-the-radar mafia not attempt to make himself useful, on the issues that are most pressing?



Donna

Nothing on Chris until Day 2, when she places him "middle of pack" while dropping a line on everyone. Also mistakes Chris with Andrew.
When asked (by me), develops more about him: blendy, posts a lot, roleplays well, but doesn't remember what he's saying.
Day 3, profile deepens: finds Chris "frantic and scattered" in defending himself.
Votes Chris "to not delay things further".

I recall talking yesterday about how Donna took her sweet time to say something relevant about Chris. And how, when (even if in jest) asked to get people talking about Chris, she changed the subject to vote Jamm. This part is displeasing.
I recall saying that Donna's votes were the same as Chris's, except the day he got lynched and she was on the committee. This part is worrying.
Donna's read on Chris on his lynch's day appears more serious in tone, but could also be comfortable writing. This part is ambiguous.

I find Donna's read on razor thin edge between civilian who couldn't be bothered to address Chris until it got real and mafia who might have tried to plant comments that looks useful and at the same time not spark any thoughts on the guy.



John-Poopio

Day 2 answers Chris's call for activity. Also considers Chris's confusing, but delightful in roletalk.
Day 3, what do you know, Chris suddenly "reeks of drama".

No surprises here, there is nothing assuring here. *frowns*



Jerry

Straight out of the woodwork, has Chris (and Ben) as suspect for lore and trying hard syndrome.
Day 2, simply reiterates his previous read.
Rebuttal to Chris's criticism about trying to shoot down the "Craig was spotted" night kill theory.
Day 3, trigger happy to vote Chris, calls him "phony".

Chris - Jerry interaction about that Craig kill stuff is interesting, but it still falls well into the antagonism / distancing possibility. Like everything Jerry has written on the subject can feel like.



Tom - nothing; god bless this man

Conclusions:

1) This is worse than the vote analysis, across the board.

2) You're all awful, but only two of you are bad. I. Told. You. To. Talk. About. Chris.

3) Between the top suspects, Jerry and Leslie, she would be more in the "I completely forgot to talk about my teammate until pressured" scenario, while Jerry would be in clear "I am distancing from this brosky with the power of ten oxen" scenario. So which one would make more sense?

I'm also voting Jerry for now, because the Knope tally has too many stinkeroos on it (Donna, Jay-Roro, Je-Rryrry), according to my log.

The fact that the vote is this close (or tied), as opposed to there being a lead of sorts, should tell us that the mafia's two votes are cautious and we are close to scum area with these choices.

Unless this is civ-civ, in which case it's a total disaster. Chris voting south on Day 2, when the situation was identical, makes me doubt this.

Andy Dwyer wrote:ron, serious question, why are my posts "andrew being andrew" when i brought up like at least 3 of those points already?

i'm not complaining, i appreciate your post, and agree with it
but why is "andrew being andrew", but you are reposting what andrew said.

Because, from votes perspective alone, you are incorrigible and implacable. I have nothing to interpret about it except that you are either the equivalent of a good pupper who just wants to pee on one player alone or a bad pupper who is just rubbing his obstinacy in our face and getting away with it.

That should no longer be applicable with hunting approach number 2. At least, I hope so.

Jerry Gergich wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Jerry Gergich wrote:I distrust Ben because he's from out of town, his ways are different from ours, and he comes across as fake and trying too hard (not something I'm likely to be accused of!) He is also freinds with Chris, who was bad.

Lynching me is the lazy option. It's what the mafia would want you to do, and it will give you nothing but a Vanilla Civilian.

Why is this argument of yours 80% lore garbage, and yet you speak of us being lazy in our suspicions and votes? The only bit that has anything to do with mafia content(that Ben is faking it or "trying to hard") is the stuff I don't recall you having elaborated in any significant way.

I don't elaborate. I'm just in charge of the filing. Mafia elaborate. Because their schemes are elaborate.

Oh wow, more b***s***.

Here's a civilian thing you could do. Convince me to place my vote next to yours. Cause I sure ain't doing it right now, with you being so sketchy.

Ben Wyatt wrote:Jerry's line of thinking seems to be that a true civilian wouldn't bother trying to defend himself.

Or explain himself.

Or try to convince others of his opinions.

Or really elaborate on his own opinions.

Or do anything other than smugly flick his nose at everyone else from the corner.

Truly, the parks department's finest employee.

I like how you're thinking, sir.

Now tell me why your Day 1 casemaking appears so much of a stinker.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I distrust Ben because he's from out of town, his ways are different from ours, and he comes across as fake and trying too hard (not something I'm likely to be accused of!) He is also freinds with Chris, who was bad.

Lynching me is the lazy option. It's what the mafia would want you to do, and it will give you nothing but a Vanilla Civilian.

Why is this argument of yours 80% lore garbage, and yet you speak of us being lazy in our suspicions and votes? The only bit that has anything to do with mafia content(that Ben is faking it or "trying to hard") is the stuff I don't recall you having elaborated in any significant way.

Hunt approach number 1

Fact for Day 1, Chris was on the mislynch committee. Excluding myself as town, that leaves two people alive who also piled on Bill: Ben and Donna.

I feel I have talked before about Ben's Day 1 activity on this case, in that for a long time, he was just fluff and banter, even as Bill discussed important stuff, like the Miller claim and "counter-claiming" on it. Then, at halfpoint, he turns to serious casemaking, including Bill in his visor (along Perkins - confirmed civ - and Andrew - confirmed doofus). That is a two-civ focus, at least. The part I remember talking about is feeling that a bit of Ben's arguments had a bit of a vibe smear towards Bill's interactions with April. The momentum of his case and vote was midpoint enough to allow an interpretation of trying to make himself useful. Overall, I feel Ben's Day 1 speaks less well about him.

His mentions of Chris seem to have not existed at all during this phase.

Donna, on the other hand, made an unreasoned (or rather banter-filled) vote, at the end of the phase. This would be a dangerous mafia move, if only under some shelter considering the immensity of that wagon.

Her mentions of Chris during this phase have also not existed. She did not acknowledge his considerable presence, although she made a slight effort to read Ben, Knope, Perkins, Andrew and myself as ok for putting the same amount of work overall. This constitutes perhaps a worrisome detail, although such combination of following in Chris' footsteps, yet ignoring himself, is carelessness that makes me doubt it would be part of mafia's practice.

As for the others, to sum it up in short:

Newport and Tom were AWOL.
Andy began his crusade against Knope.
Jan-Remo shitvoted Tom.
Jerry locked on Ben for questionable, underbaked reasons (profiling him as a "tryhard"), while also placing Chris in the same boat. Contrary to Donna, this pings me as a potential attempt to distance from Chris, fling shit at someone else (or, alternatively, distance from both teammates) and vote outside the sure mislynch.
Leslie was not proactive and went to some deal to put weight into a suspicion on me, right on endphase's edge.

Overall, at this point, I would single Jerry, Leslie and Ben as suspects. Less so Donna and Donny. The others cannot be profiled based on proving themselves less worthy than lawyers. Let's see how this will hold up, going into the next phase.

Fact about Day 2: Chris was yet again happy to find himself on a civilian lynch, with possible extra investment to create diversion, as we are currently surmising. The fact that he chose to vote on a ping on a total new suspect (Jamm), compared to old crafted suspects he even acknowledge to be still active (Ann and Jerry), was noted and led to his well-deserved downfall.

Ben worked consistent on a Jerry case throughout the phase, even influencing a midway leading wagon on him. If Ben and Chris are in cohorts, this would look like inconsistent, wire-tripping teamwork, given that Chris undid the Jerry lynch that Ben worked on. Unless Leslie is also in the mix and it was required for Chris to do something about saving Leslie. Not out of the question, but too much of a third party stretch all the same. At basic level, the Ben - Chris link is weakened by the contradictory wagons they created.

Donna was again in "I'll post a bit on everyone while polishing my nails" mode. Again she placed the contributive players in her top echelon, this time mentioning Chris as "middle of the pack". My insistence on Chris led to her saying more words on him. Then, my suggestion to get more people to talk about Chris led to her voting Jamm, a person she had nothing to say about except "I hope he will come back to post". *frowns* This is almost changing the subject. The fact that she voted the same as Chris yet again, plus everything above, is borderline suicidal from a teammate perspective.

Newport was again non-existent.
Tom shitvoted Ben. On a separate note, I do not understand why this man still exists in this game. The last time he was seen, we were in a different month.
Andrew was Andrew.
Leslie was very supportive of the Jerry case - almost going along with Ben's whole idea - then saved her ass from getting lynched.
Jerry kept pedalling on Ben and the high posters, including Chris, although he did a stinker of a job to cover anyone but Ben.
Jam-Robo reacted to Chris call towards low posters and it even shows up, among his pile of untranslatable gibberish, that he "feels he can trust him". *frowns*

So at the end of this phase, I'd worry less about Ben (unless that mentioned Chris - Ben - Leslie connection is right in our ***ing face), slightly more about Donna and Joo-Rall and Leslie and Jerry remain a constant focus.

Fact about Day 3: unless Andy or Ben are part of the equation, Chris was bussed.

Andrew was Andrew.
J-I'm tired of this name already exhibited a 180 on suspecting Andy (no longer), suspecting Leslie (sudden yes) and suspecting Chris (sudden yes). *frowns*
Ben analysed a Chris - Jerry connection. He went with Jerry and he has a line about feeling unsure about the Chris vote gaining so much traction, which is the type of insecurity that should come more from a lonely civ, plus there's really no sense of him trying to change people's minds with this statement, or with the counter-wagon vote.
Donna uses two or three adjectives to describe how she feels worse about Chris and then votes for him. Mhm.
Jerry did shit all day and dumped the vote on Chris with ease.
Leslie was quite trigger happy, following my case on Chris. Yet again, there is little material to tell us why we should clear her for such actions. Her sole interaction with Chris was both interpretable source for forced antagonism and remarks that are fair (Chris' Jamm vote having been meant for a Jerry self-save, not her's) or even very fair (Jerry distancing from Chris).

Jerry, Leslie, Donna, Jeantard remain constant. In this order, even.

Jerry Gergich wrote:The accusation that I was distancing from Chris is absurd. I was one of the first to call out Chris for his phoneyness. Phoneyness I see echoed in Ben.

That... is distancing. *frowns*

Ace in the hole! As beautiful as the first pig roast of the winter season. Never trusted that sunshine hippie flatterer.

I'll be back with more thoughts and supatowning later. I didn't get revenge killed, so I might be on to others as well. We might be dealing with scaredycats, after all.

I "faxed" you to get people talking about Chris, not vote a silent specimen.

I'm not correcting any other mistakes or typos, because I don't give a damn.

Hmm, that should have said "there being any tension in this voting process".

Back in the saddle, for most of the remaining hours.

The tally for Chris is a bit trigger happy at the moment to give me full comfort in there being no tension in this voting process. That being said, I have yet to be dissuaded from my Chris vote, as I find him putting the most elaborate show of posts bleeding out words and attempts to catch up on previous suspects. Which he didn't bother with, in the alledged spur of the moment of his late vote last phase, going instead for a "ping" on Jamm. Day 2 and voting on a ping, good Lord! I don't find anything in his explanations to make his vote any less sidelining and/or messing up with the overall tally. You know what going with the gut is, Chris? Seeing one of your three suspects to be leading (not by a wide margin at that) - which you yourself acknowledge to have seen - and placing the vote there to call it a day, in case you had any real convinction.

I find it clear that Newport was either wipped by his dad to start taking this seriously or switched with a new replica. For the moment, I am not sure how to validate his contribution. The "vote me" stuff could be mafia throwing it in our faces just as much as civilian saying stupid stuff.

Jerry's vote couldn't be more lackluster, Chris fits his "high posters" old agenda, so he's acting like he might as well take a phase off to work on his fart symphony.

I want to believe Leslie is town, even for a bit of sentimental value. The sheer thought of having worked with a traitor all these years... Going back to what made me second doubt the Leslie lynch, for a bit, there's her having kept her in the lead (although it wasn't that big and sacrificial of a lead) and, while I don't give any kind of serious value to these things, her plead that she's town does not reek of fakery and is instead couple with efforts to keep herself afloat. Unfortunately, however, that is it. She's in a position of gaining suspicion across the board. I disagree with Andrew and feel the Jamm phrasing angle on suspecting her is pure semantics. Self-preservation is self-preservations. Civilians would do it. Mafia would do it. The person who wouldn't do it is Ron Swanson. Because he laughs at death.

I will be far more pissed if Andy turns out mafia, because it's mostly (ok Andrew let's say 80%) roleplay and drumming to the extent of getting lucky that he never ends on the burner for it.

Ben had a lukewarm Day 2 and his Jerry case gave me just a tiny bit vibe of steering, especially since he got Leslie (suspicious) and April (not so much) on board for a while. Then again, I agree with everything he has written in this post. I can only mark him as a possible deepwolf, but that isn't saying much. Defeat will probably await us if what Ben is doing is sheeping.

Ann is dropping out of my radar as well. Her contribution to Day 2 turned out to be empty, since she never made it back to change anything. I'd inquire if she can sum up her suspects for right now, since I don't remember much of her stance upon perusing the posts. On the hand, I also felt that she had been bitting my ass because she's uncomfortable with the roleplay ratio. Nothing I can do about that, however, woman. I'm Ron ***ing Swanson. But at least it's good to get on the same page of all that messy exchange.

Everyone else should be ashamed, if civilian. If not, enjoy your free "I won as mafia without doing shit" tax deduction coupon, at the end of all this. If anyone has any pertinent ideas about Joke-Ringo, Tom or Donna, I'm all ears.

Ugh not even going to bother with fixing those quotes. You get the idea.

Ann Perkins wrote:Oops I forgot to vote before I left, oh well.

Noooo Leslie, why do you have to throw a wrench in my thought process and team up with Ron to vote Chris. Now i'll need to reread.

You could also reread someone independent of what Leslie does, you know.

Andy Dwyer wrote:is there somethin gyou'd like to hera about from me in partifuarl?

Suspects. And real-time analysis of multiple posts, players.

You say you have Gerry as your third on your list now, but didn't you inquire yesterday what was so bad about him that deserved a lynch?

Chris Traeger wrote:

Jerry Gergich wrote:Hey guys, I'm here! I was late because I dropped my laptop in my soup. Butterfingers!

Jerry Gergich wrote:Gosh, you are all so nice. I don't want to lynch any of you. But Ben and Chris are new around here, and Ben seems to be trying a little too hard, plus he didn't cry at L'il Sebastian's funeral, and he also made me play Cones of Dunshire with him.

Sorry Ben.

And yet, I'm the one whose votes are getting the third degree. Hard to imagine.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Oh geez, I can't believe Craig is dead. That's so sad! You know, when I'm feeling a little down, my beautiful wife and daughters always cheer me up. But right now all I really want to do is find the killer. Ben was awful quick to get in here after the kill. I wonder if he was expecting it.

Oh Jerry, your family is a delight! You know, when I first read this I was a little unsure how I felt about your reasoning. And I think I can understand your reasoning, after all, the mafia would be anxious to know if they had killed an important role or not. However, it also could have been simply when Ben was able to be online. I don't think we can conclude that it would definitely make him bad.

Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.

Here you characterize me as "trying to hard." This is the one post that I think speaks in your favor, because April pointed out that you mixed up Bill Dexhart and the cop, making it look like you aren't paying attention. I can agree you aren't paying attention well, but are you an inattentive civilian or an inattentive mafia?

quote="Jerry Gergich"]I sure wonder why anyone would want to kill poor Craig. He barely posted, and only said nice things about April. If April was mafia, it could make sense for her to kill a defender, but nothing she has posted makes me think she would be so evil. I like to believe the best in people. Most likely it was a low poster kill designed to leave no clues at all. I guess I'd better step up my own game if I don't want the same thing to happen to me! It would be just my luck.

Maybe I'm just being a goofball, but it seems to me that a more active mafia is more likley to kill low posters than a more passive one, so I would want to look at higher posters. The highest posters so far are Ron, Andy, Ben, Ann, and April. I already know I trust April and already know I don't trust Ben, so that leaves me three more people to look at carefully before I vote. Just as soon as I finish this filing.

I won't bore you all by going over this one again, you can see from my past comments that I feel like this is a little bit shady. Also, swats at high posters are easy.

Jerry Gergich wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Jerry Gergich wrote:Oh geez, I can't believe Craig is dead. That's so sad! You know, when I'm feeling a little down, my beautiful wife and daughters always cheer me up. But right now all I really want to do is find the killer. Ben was awful quick to get in here after the kill. I wonder if he was expecting it.

Hello, I don't even remember you from yesterday. Can you give me a read on Ron please

Ron's my boss and he was good enough to give me a job, so I don't want to say anything mean about him. But his posts have seemed a little stilted to me. He's not as high up on my suspect tree as Ben and Chris, but he's not in the clear either.

Mild shots at Ron now as well with no clear reasoning why. Ben is just because he is a high poster and came in quick after the night post. Me because I am giving the trying to hard vibe. Mmkay.

Jerry Gergich wrote:

Chris Traeger wrote: The second one concerns me because it could dissuade people from trying to look for a connection or reason to look at who might kill Craig and why. Looking for answer can only be a good thing, at least that’s what my therapist, Dr. Richard Nygard tells me all the time.

I'm sorry if my work is not up to your standards lately, Chris. I ripped my pants somehow and had to spend most of the day sitting down to keep anyone from noticing. It was only a theory, and if you can see a connection between Craig and the killer, I would love to hear it! I just didn't see much in his posting to make me think of other people.

Roleplay and walking back his earlier comment about thinking it is probably a coincidence.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Looking at these files all day, I have to say that I think the killer is someone who posts a lot, and that it's very likely that at least one voter for Bill was bad. Cross referencing the two leads me to Ben, Ann, Chris, or Ron. Ron is just such a great guy, and after reading some more of his posts, I think I have to trust him for now.

That means I think we should lynch Ben, Ann, or Chris. Ann used the word "interesting" in her second post of the game, which to me always seems like a fluff word that doesn't say anything but appears to say something, so she is definitely on my radar.

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!

I can't ask how my friends are doing during this tragedy? Interesting...

Anyone else have thoughts on these three? I'm so lucky to work with such smart people.

Now he is back to high posters, though I have never seen a solid reason from him why. This time though he excludes Ron and adds Ann over the word "interesting." Which strikes me as odd, and Ann clearly felt so too judging from her reaction. This reaction makes me wonder if I am wrong about Ann or Jerry. Or if perhaps they are distancing here, which might also explain their interaction. Very interesting!

In conclusion. Jerry Gergich displays at best half the effort one could hope for, and is targeting the easy vote options in high posters. He has supported none of his accusations with anything meaningful, but simply shot random and somewhat laughable arguments at his listed suspects. I believe when I look at the whole of his work, I feel more inclined to think he is probably bad and having a hard time manufacturing suspicions that look genuine. That's just my opinion. I still think he has a beautiful family, even his daughter Milicent who broke my heart for the first time ever. I'm usually the one who breaks up with the other person. I'm ok though, Dr. Richard Nygard has helped me to move on and to love myself. Who wouldn't love me, I'm a lovable guy!

On to Ann Perkins ISO next.[/quote]

You know what purpose this tryhard garbage could have served?

HAVING VOTED JERRY

This is all for tonight.

P.S.: Andrew! I need you to see more things than the word "Leslie" in your posts. You are using chronic roleplay and tunneling to speak of no one else in this game and that is not good.

Goodbye, April. You will be avenged. I will personally see to it.

I believe the mafia team in this game is a team doing the right moves. Scanned for the cop and found him, and now removed an all-but-confirmed civilian. This requires at least one functioning brain in the BTSC. If you still want to dispute that the mafia containts performant players, offer an adequate profile and point at someone.

As for me, this brings me to Chris, for instance.

To say that you suspect Jerry, but vote Jamm, while Jerry was a serious contender, is a mighty suspicious move. The only way you could even consider absolving such a move would be if Chris would have had no f***ing clue what the tally situation is.

But Chris did not say that.

Chris Traeger wrote:When last I looked at the votes, Jerry was leading by a decent margin

So either Jerry was still in the lead, by one vote, and Chris, instead of voting Jerry who he still suspected, voted Jamm.
Either Jerry was tied with Leslie and Chris, instead of voting Jerry who he still suspected (over Leslie, for which he had stated nothing relevant whatsoever during the game), voted Jamm.

This either looks like a vote meant not to doom Jerry for good, or to offer Leslie a lifeline, given that she was stuck, while in a tie herself, on Jerry.

Chris is the common denominator in this, anyway.

Leslie Knope wrote:I still think Jerry is a solid lead, but I want to give him a chance to defend himself. I also think that Ron's buddying up with April could have been an attempt to hide in plain sight.

You're a pain in the ass, Knope. Your Day 1 narration was "April and Ron are colluding". Then your Day 2 narration was to still try to scramble around that. Now it's "Ron buddied to April". ***s sake.

Bobby Newport wrote:I have the most amazing idea.

Why don't you all vote for me?

Are you bad?

I will be gone fishing tomorrow till in the evening. To make up for this interval of absence, I will proceed with a vote on Chris.

Could the Host or Perd announce when results will be posted with one minute in advance, to allow conversation to halt, please and thank you.

April Ludgate wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:So Knope and Barry were at two a piece, Chris deems Larry suspicious, but moves to further tie the two with Jamm?!

Ugh. Chris and Jerry as a team?

Yeah I don't get that either. He could have secured the lynch of a suspect, but instead put us in a 3-way tie. That requires total ignorance of where the tally stands with 2 minutes remaining in the day.

Terrible look.

Shh, agree with me later. Knope will think we're still colluding...

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Councilwoman was in a rebuttal mode for most of the phase and she has thorough and reasonable at that. Some of the details are not absolving or ones I would describe as satisfactory, but overall I'd say feel better about her after this process.

Knope - up until a few hours ago, there were very little reasons to dissuade from a lead on her, with all the narration shifts on me and April, her speculation game regarding the mafia (April was already more eloquent to point out the nonsense), her deflections and such, if only not for the doubting thought of too much clumsiness in all of this. Plus, until Jerry became first wagon, she let herself in front, which inserts right away the doubt of whether she's not genuine in saying she's town "despite all there is".

Just to recap.

I definitely didn't get the "I'm voting for Councilwoman Knope" out of that.

Top paragraph was about your friend. As for you, I express some degree of second doubts, nevertheless references all your bad marks.

Leslie Knope wrote:Let the record show it was April and Ron who waited until the last minute to vote for me.

I vote when I'm ready to, Knope. I know what I've spent an hour and a half this evening trying to analyse and it wasn't waiting to vote last minute, as you say.

Either that or the 3-way was for Leslie to escape. But Chris' last line - vote synchronization makes little sense.

So Knope and Barry were at two a piece, Chris deems Larry suspicious, but moves to further tie the two with Jamm?!

Ugh. Chris and Jerry as a team?

Ron Swanson wrote:Goodbye, Leslie.

I'm sorry if the vibes were all wrong and I turned this into season 7.

I mean, if you die, that is.

Goodbye, Leslie.

I'm sorry if the vibes were all wrong and I turned this into season 7.

April Ludgate wrote:Chris just voted Jamm. 3-way tie. Ron, it's on you.

Fucking Chris.

Also, fuck.

April, sell me on Jerry in as few words as time permits anymore. I'm not sold.

Ah. Must have been for the Macklin posts, if I recall?

But just like Andrew, I'm not sure why that would count as baddie smearing.

If anything, the slight good vibe I could get from it would be counter-claiming cop to Andy's apparent cop claim, for the double the flase claim coating against the mafia's scans.

April Ludgate wrote:I think you're correct that those posts lack relevant content, Andy. I also think Leslie should talk about her weird "hints you've dropped about being the town cop" thing. Even if she really believed you're the cop, Andy, I have no idea why a civ would broadcast that to the thread. One might as well say "hey baddies, this guy might be our cop! please don't kill him!"

Talk about target painting

Where was this, again?

Too long, did not read on the above version:

I'd name Leslie a suspect.
There are reasons to find Jerry shady, but I also wonder if he won't prove to have flubbed some ideas to make himself useful and look at something. I sort of regard Tom's swing at Ben to be more garbage than Jerry's. I can agree that profiling the high posters are Craig's killers is one-dimensional, but I disagree with Ben's idea that, by doing this, Jerry hoped to achieve something i.e. persuade anyone.
I have serious issues with Chris and Andy.
Second-tier suspects would probably include Jamm.

Andrew is now sitting on the Leslie case in a comfortable way, but that also means he's locked himself in the same loop as ever, with no hint as to what else he has in sight. It is not something to appreciate. He also remains fixated on Knope's gambit/godfather comments more than I myself deem them worthwhile, upon closer inspection, and it is not still clear to me why this angle is a deal solver for him. Under normal circumstances, I would not imagine a mafia wanting to draw so much attention and disapproval for this type of drumming, but with this one-directional roleplay, who can tell.

Councilwoman was in a rebuttal mode for most of the phase and she has thorough and reasonable at that. Some of the details are not absolving or ones I would describe as satisfactory, but overall I'd say feel better about her after this process.

April remains on my trust list.

Ben did not show up or contributed as much as during the previous phase, until right now at the very end of it. Takes a swing at Jerry, which has currently evolved into a case / lead. Soft disapproving remarks at both Knope and Jamm, but without any verdict on either of them. Dissident of the active thinker mafia angle.

Newport would make a great city council. Absent and useless. Terrible player here, though.

Chris - comes in every sunrise. Rebuttal concerning his Bill vote. It's... not clear how exactly he defends against April other than "I went with it". Later on, addresses more issues. Takes a swing at Jerry for casting doubt on what the flip mean for April (Chris, to be noted, is of the opinion that April is confirmed good) and the idea that the night kill was anything but a lucky strike. Honorable finger wags per se, but I'm not sure if I would call them anything but soft pokes. His rebuttal towards me is basically fluff.

I feel I have nothing to commend this man for, so it is only natural that I'm veering towards suspecting him for not pulling the weight in this process. Or any weight. You need real carbs and protein for that, my man. And yet, Chris remains far from a serious topic in the rest of the community, so at the end of the Day, what do I care.

Donna - looking at several players, although, in her own words, with "nothing solid" in mind. I'd tag her as neutral as her content is, but there's also a serious rustle no big feathers, do no harm with your vote vibe to it.

Jack-Rhino - suspects Andy, I suppose. Riveting stuff...

Jamm - preocuppied by post-flip, post-claim, post-Miller-deal issues that are either interpreted from rather ridiculous angles or don't lead anywhere. Barks at Knope, with not much reasoning. Then just places the vote on Tom for inactivity and a vote he disagrees with. That last thing just about has a ping-oriented feel to it to acknowledge it as a serious complaint, but in whole context it's very thin material.

Lenny - I also had the first instinct to suspect this post, for its apparent obliviousness to Craig's possible exposure and dismissal of the active mafia idea, plus speculations on what mafia would do, but then my final thoughts after some re-reads and moving on was that it was that he was expressing his take on it and that's pretty much it. He later returns to the idea of checking the high posters further, but he issues a dud of a take on Ann (her banter with me in the game's opening... that's it?) and says nothing about Chris, God damn it. There is content to frown at, for sure, but it also makes me wonder if, given the current situation, if he's not the low hanging fruit right now.

Knope - up until a few hours ago, there were very little reasons to dissuade from a lead on her, with all the narration shifts on me and April, her speculation game regarding the mafia (April was already more eloquent to point out the nonsense), her deflections and such, if only not for the doubting thought of too much clumsiness in all of this. Plus, until Jerry became first wagon, she let herself in front, which inserts right away the doubt of whether she's not genuine in saying she's town "despite all there is".

Tom - junk

Ugh, I need a drink.

April Ludgate wrote:Ron: you groaned about the thread being dead when you were tied for the lead. Now you're not and you've gone silent. Why?

Because I'm writing?

The silence is still helpful, for that matter.

Ok, now a lot of people are talking. *frowns*

I'll be in my office.

Leslie Knope wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:Oh great, it is endphase, nobody has said anything for almost an hour, eight players have already dumped their votes and I am co-wagon to be lynched.

Just how I imagined my evening.

You'll be fine tonight, Ron.

Who do you intend to vote for and what's your argument for doing so?

I will answer that after a fair review, in the time that is left.

And of course I'll be fine. I'm Ron ****ing Swanson.

Oh great, it is endphase, nobody has said anything for almost an hour, eight players have already dumped their votes and I am co-wagon to be lynched.

Just how I imagined my evening.

Leslie Knope wrote:
<big chunk of post with many quotes in it that has Tom's, Jerry's and Jimmy-Rolo's names in it>

Are you planning to give any verdict on either of these three or did you just recap what they did by showing what they did?

Leslie Knope wrote:I was saying that the mafia would know off the bat if they had a godfather, and they would have a 50/50 shot at guessing whether or not there was a miller. If there were a miller, then there would be no way of definitively proving it or who is was unless the miller died. All we know is that the town cop w/n0 check died and that there's a chance April has been telling the truth. Also, there's a chance she isn't.

Yes, if there's a miller and it's not April, that role would keep just quiet about it.

Leslie Knope wrote: Unless I missed something, and please feel free to tell me if I did, only the mafia (and April, if she's not one of them) know for sure which setup we're in. They either have a godfather or a 1 shot vigilante, and they know what roles are in play and which ones aren't. From the information we have, we're either in C or 4.

Yes, if we're in 4 instead of C, the civilian role who is planned to blow up at any point would just keep quiet about April's claim being impossible.

Honest to God, Knope.

If there is a Miller that is not April, it is beyond my comprehension why they wouldn't counter-claim to expose April, at this stage or any other. It would raise the potential of going into the next phase with one mafia down. Braver men have sacrificed themselves for a lot less, in this country.

What in God's name is wrong with the quotes? Let me get my toolbox.

[quote="Andy Dwyer]RON-NIE SWAN



ok so i'm thinking here's the deal:
leslie is bad
leslie is trying to lynch/cast doubt on april right?
ok so what i'm thinking is that
leslie says it was 50/50 if april is lying because they already know who the godfather is
but that pre-supposes there is a god father.[/quote]

No, Andrew, I said complete and elaborate sentences.

Jeremy Jamm wrote:Jeremy Jamm is here! To attempt to catch up,
First off I disagree with anything and everything Knope said,
Second Ron should be lynched for punching me,
Third I want a bigger office.

Expect a few posts throughout the day. I do want to point out April outing herself caused the death of our cop, I wouldn't mind seeing her get lynched in case she is the mafia. Why would a civ do such a thing? Also until our miller flips we don't even know if it is in the set up 100% we also don't know if April is the miller or the godfather do we?

How is she mafia?

If we're in C and April is not the miller, how has her false claim not been blown apart yet?
Same question, really, if we're in 4.