The Syndicate

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:28 am

1337 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:08 am

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:05 am Eh, 1612 might have been forced into the EOD. It’s WIFOM. But I think 1612 is very towny on account of other reasons

Is this a meta read uwu

One I’m pretty proud of tbh but I’m also a little less stable about it given the situation

Odds are the read is ineffective and you fell head first into a correct read but ok

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:05 am Eh, 1612 might have been forced into the EOD. It’s WIFOM. But I think 1612 is very towny on account of other reasons

Is this a meta read uwu

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:28 am I wouldn't say so, 1337 might actually be the towniest person here paradoxically enough.

Think I'm pretty much thread cleared at this point, I'll take what I can get can't wait to carry f3

I suck and town should carry me ty!

Gl if this flips mafia I will say I suck tomorrow as compensation

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:55 pm I have seen on MU sometimes a Mafia Vig in some setups I guess but it make no sense for you to leap to that assumption in this case

I'm not jumping to an assumption I'm playing the game not trying to guess if the host made a mafia vig or town vig or w/e. Vig can be both alignments and I've played games with mafia vig personally. I'm not going to town or scumread someone off that, but if you try to justify your whole alignment on being vig that's obviously not gonna hold up and I'm pretty sure I know who you are and I'm kind of shocked you think that logic would ever hold up?

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:53 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:49 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:47 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

No.

Wait you think vig is automatically town? LOL

What

Yes?

By definition a Vig is Town, a mafia extra KP is not balanced here, what planet are you from

The role is called vig this isn't ToS the alignment doesn't matter lol. Regardless how do you know the full setup to tell what is balanced or not plenty of people haven't flipped?

I do not know full setup but it feels obvious to me mafia would not have extra KP here, look how close game is getting already, I am used to Vig meaning Town KP why would you ever assume it is not I dont understand how you are jumping to bizarre conclusions rather than the simple truth

The game is close because town is sucking not because the game is unbalanced we literally killed parity cop n1 we aren't entitled for the game to be close just because it is a power game, if you lynch town you lose the game that's how mafia works

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm I think you are acting stuck up and high and mighty in a more probable village way but annoying, you have wrong reads and need to open to that

We will see I guess...

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:47 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

No.

Wait you think vig is automatically town? LOL

What

Yes?

By definition a Vig is Town, a mafia extra KP is not balanced here, what planet are you from

The role is called vig this isn't ToS the alignment doesn't matter lol. Regardless how do you know the full setup to tell what is balanced or not plenty of people haven't flipped?

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:44 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

No.

Wait you think vig is automatically town? LOL

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:43 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:41 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:39 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm If my shell hits mafia I will townread them!

Then you realize I am not for chopping today so move your vote somewhere useful

Who are you shooting?

Most likely within a pool of Fuskdall Pony Quokka but I will not narrow it down more than that in hopes mafia won't mess with it

Seems Sus

Can't wait for double town death tonight

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:42 pm Also what was all your weird stuff about saying Maid claimed vig D1, when they only claimed some pr that needed good reads, I never saw that as a Vig claim but you took it as for granted it was and I do not understand that perspective

I wanted to see their reaction to tell if they were actually going to get defensive about it or not

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:39 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:38 pm If my shell hits mafia I will townread them!

Then you realize I am not for chopping today so move your vote somewhere useful

Who are you shooting?

Yes it's mostly I'm going to brag when I am right tomorrow tbh though

Nutella is town**

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:35 pm I said I shot Nutella but she didn't die. I was not told I was blocked and someone else said they were so I can not even claim I was blocked and must assume she survived another way. I said my role is complicated in how I get shots. How or why would wolf make up all that, is no credit, wolves have good fake claims that may seem more "proveable" than the real things. I am just telling you what is true from my POV, what reason do you have for not believing it

And what reason do you have for feeling so sure Nutella flips town? The only way I see that she flips town is if you are wolf with TMI but that also doesn't feel right. Everyone else here is sure she is most likely just a hit and we should not save her a third (fourth counting night) time, why do you feel you must shield her so hard in this scenario? Just being contrarian for the heck of it so you can brag if you are right? Or is it the world you are wolf with TMI and trying to discredit me for next misyeet?

I already explained why Nutella is mafia I'm going to do what you did and say read the thread!

If my shell hits mafia I will townread them!

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

You realise vig doesn't even have to be town right

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:29 pm No direct proof sure but why otherwise would I claim it? And I am easy to see as town from solving regardless. Get out of your tunnel and examine what is really most likely here.

The solving you are doing is based on the fact that the person who is about to flip town is mafia. Regardless the first sentence is literally so level 1 mafia i can't comment. I can't really tell if you really believe that kr not, because in my experience this site and according to other members of this site that I've been told doesn't have much role power and doesn't have enough expeirence with then to play properly.

However softing a role with no proof is literally never a reason to keep someone alive or read them town, maybe you think that it is some big brain play or reason you should stay alive maybe other players in the room thing it is but it's really not and even if you were town softing D1 is not a reason to townread you lol.

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:19 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:19 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:15 pm I am sure 1337 is not reading anything, seems like out of touch villager, wolf would know not to push me by now

Why?

please read you are only embarrassing yourself.

Are you implying I should town read you because you softed a role that you have no proof of having?

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:15 pm I am sure 1337 is not reading anything, seems like out of touch villager, wolf would know not to push me by now

Why?

Thread settle on lhf because they got fed up playing the game after bad flips D1 and D2, just because town pushed bad kills before doesn't mean their other pushes are gonna be good, Nutella hasn't done anything worng but sub into a game where half of town is wolf siding poor Nutella

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:10 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:09 pm Nutella always flips town here you guys suck

Who doesn’t!

Me, kill my shell tomorrow

Nutella always flips town here you guys suck

Maid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:34 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.

He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc

worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.

Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?

If you think the playerslist has any inexperienced townie, please let me know who you are talking about.

You lmao

It would be great to know who you guys are talking about but we should be voting my shell here anyways trust me I will CARRY YOU

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.

He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc

worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.

Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:40 pm hot take

alison and fuskdall are both just mafia

That's a very hot take

Also pony's mafia equity has risen in my head but still prefer my shell today, moving maid to town lean.

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:26 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:25 pm

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:34 pm Nutella IS TOWN
Alison is TOWN

more reads to come tomorrow this game will be salvaged!

so every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?

Apparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still good

Why is nutella town?

Parikas flipped town in a tied wagon. I know I am town, I know that nurse is town that leaves 2 unknowns on the wagon. 4 unknowns on the tied wagon for Nutella who you propose is mafia.

Mafia have an option here, they can either shoot people on an unflipped wagon, but they choose to shoot someone who just flopped a townie. Why is this? If Nutella is mafia they get a free shot at people on their wagon, no questions are really asked shooting on Nutella wagon wouldn't even really point towards Nutella mafia, because you are shooting at the counterwagon to a townflip that makes sense as mafia.

So if Nutella is mafia why is their entire wagon still alive? Very simple answer, mafia either don't care about those pushing nutella or they want people to continue pushing nutella, or maybe even they are the ones pushing nutella. Regardless of which answer here is right they all point towards town Nutella, so Nutella must be town regardless of how badly you or I think they played.

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:11 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:34 pm Nutella IS TOWN
Alison is TOWN

more reads to come tomorrow this game will be salvaged!

so every single day 2 wagon was townie, are we really that shit at this game?

Apparently but you weren't on a relevant wagon so maybe you are still good

Stop scumreading the dude who pretended to be masons with you lmao its not scummy you both did it

Maid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:13 am

1337 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am

Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.

He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc

There are another roles that requires perfect reads, right?
Wolves are rarely killing the town vig, they often misfire and maybe my reads were bad enough, we can think at the game from this perspective, if you thought I can be vig maybe wolves had the same idea...

If you think vig isn't super pro town then you haven't much experience with role power setups tbh, regardless of your game knowledge I'm sure at least one wolf is aware!

Maid might actualy be town here

Maid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 am Something is very bad and I am frustrated because I can't figure what.

1337 calls me wolf but they didn't read the game, they are pushing lazily some gut reads without base, if this is town, they are making wolves' job.

Rule of Syndicate, wolves are often the most active people in the game. At least one who are posting a ton is wolf for sure

I don't deserve to be town read so confident, and I know who are doing this is pocketing me usually, My Shell what have I done to be your top town? Give me quotes please not general reasons

As long as Akemi and Fusk are not masons, it's already obvious they lied. I don't like how no one speaks about this. I insist to consider Akemi wolf for fake claiming.

But I have to look at the game as a whole and think who could kill Wilgy, that before I put my vote down.

I need content, please talk folks!

These are my late raw thoughts.

My shell is the wolf dw you can love until tomorrow

Quokka wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.

He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc

My Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:21 pm The more 1337 has pushed me the more I think he is either wolf or not paying any attention should be very clear at this point I am town and wolves are just going to have to accept that I am no longer a miselimination target sorry

You'll have to do better than that, why are you so cleared?

My Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:13 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:10 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:05 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:55 pmNutella was saved two days in a row and potentially saved from a vig shot with some sort of interference.

My Shell wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:03 pm If Nutella is wolf was likely being bussed as they were seen as sus from early on and a probable bus sacrifice, Akemi especially voted early and may have wanted to stay on and hope Paprika flipped.

Explain what you mean by these two posts.

Nutella is probably wolf how can i be more clear than that.

You say nutella was saved 2 days in a row, but then also say they are bussed, which is it?

Does not contradict, teammates bussed thinking she would be gone but ended up saved by counter again after all. Both can be true

Can theoretically be true in all the realms of possibility, but it is very unlikely as that is not how scum aligned players play the game

Haven't read their play properly***

Quokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:09 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:02 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:28 pm Because a guy claimed vig and he's still alive and didn't die and that's a little suspicious don't you think

I don't like how you are trying to move the spotlight off nutella by making a big deal about this. There are many reasons why someone can not be dead including a doc dodge or mafia simply not believing the claim. The fact that the vig hasn't shot seems to point towards the claim not being real regardless.

Can you explain why you are putting My Shell, Martin and myself in the same category? That does not make sense to me.

It was theedtoveds I could not towncleae but I forgot dodo existed.

But now honestly I just think my shell is independently mafia so that group doesn't matter much anymore in my head

ok. What makes you think nutellaphant is town then?

Have read their play they are likely town because of the wagon! Might go back and double check but I'm mostly solving off wagons here and this game mafia have been kicking back. Overwhelmingly likely that yesterday's wagons were TvT imo and that would make Nutella a big fat town by wagonomics.

Quokka wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:02 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:28 pm Because a guy claimed vig and he's still alive and didn't die and that's a little suspicious don't you think

I don't like how you are trying to move the spotlight off nutella by making a big deal about this. There are many reasons why someone can not be dead including a doc dodge or mafia simply not believing the claim. The fact that the vig hasn't shot seems to point towards the claim not being real regardless.

Can you explain why you are putting My Shell, Martin and myself in the same category? That does not make sense to me.

It was theedtoveds I could not towncleae but I forgot dodo existed.

But now honestly I just think my shell is independently mafia so that group doesn't matter much anymore in my head

My shells iso reminded me that dodo is in this game but it also helped me find a mafia member you guys are welcome for the super hard carry

Fuskdall probably town so

Think 1 mafia in maid pony

2 mafia in my shell Martin quokka

At first glance without reading most of thread lmao

I need to go read my shell tomorrow they are potential mafia note to self and thread in case km not bothered isoing

Maid/pony is tentatively town/mafia

Nutella IS TOWN
Alison is TOWN

more reads to come tomorrow this game will be salvaged!

I WILL SAVE THIS GAME

Because a guy claimed vig and he's still alive and didn't die and that's a little suspicious don't you think

Maid were you the person who claimed vig day 1?

Maid wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:43 pm

1337 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:06 pm Also I am very concerned over the fact no one has tried kill me yet, it's kinda weird no?

No it's not, if you are town, as miller claim you are never trusted and mafia can hope they can mislynch you, and you were openly the one who wanted to kill Paprika like your life depended on it. Nagl.
If you are mafia, any explanation is moot.

I am sorry I wasn't present at Eod, I observed that Paprika didn't even self press

I meant no mafia is trying to kill me during the day not nightkill