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This is a good idea. I was wondering earlier if it would be legal for us to screenshot these pages for reference later on.S~V~S wrote:Might I suggest that if anything in here strikes us enough to recall, that we PM it to ourselves lol.
just realized svs is the only one who actually remembered Donna, so scratch the second part.Prisoner 27385 wrote:I'm definitely waiting to hear more from Bea. She has the power to sway my vote off of her.
For the sake of my GTH chart, could you pick a side on Donna? Even if it is totally unsubstantiated.
Gimme some GTH reads of everyone in here.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nobody really. Which is why I'm looking for ways to create discussion.S~V~S wrote:And who do you suspect in THIS thread? If you said, and I missed it, sorry. My read back has beenspotty since I am mainly reading current posts.
Linki: Oh, I thought this went through. Reposting for posting.
His vote for Mac yesterday suggested he put earnest thought into it and I thought it looked good, and has otherwise looked like a typical marmot, according to my sources.S~V~S wrote:Bea is a rl super good friend. I need to see more from her to vote her, but I do want to see more.
Why do you think MM is good?
I appreciate it. I'll try to rally the troops so we have someplace to input this data.Made wrote:I have class in 15 minutes so just wanted to throw all my thought in thread because this'll probably be my last thoughts for the night.Prisoner 27385 wrote:We haven't started yet! But this will do.
does anyone else here wanna do some gun-to-heading?
linki-He's voted, so i'm betting on silenced
We haven't started yet! But this will do.Made wrote:Bea- Baddie
Boom- Slight Baddie (but i'm betting on quiet meta atm)
Cheerleader- Epignosis
Golden- Civvie
John Coltrane- I really don't have a read on this person... like i don't think i remember a single post from him all game....and they haven't posted today. So Civvie. maybe baddie team mate would be like yo wtf are you doing
Juliets- Civvie but nearest baddie of all civvie reads
MM- Civvie
Priz- Civvie
Llama- Civvie
Scotty- Slight Civvie
Soneji- Civvie whose I have a gut baddie read on
SVS- Civvie
It is tough to do without being able to look back on the old posts, but from my recollection you appeared to latch onto something early (Wilgy's supposed slip, I believe) and held onto it as the basis for your lone suspicion for a little while. One thing that I look for in baddies is an insistence on their initial suspect. I think sometimes a player who is bad will pick one player to target as their suspect early in a game, and will stick with that suspect to avoid being accused of not contributing original thoughts.S~V~S wrote:Forced how? Do tell.Prisoner 27385 wrote:SVS summed up my thoughts regarding Soneji so far, and Made summed up my thoughts regarding SVS. I will need to see something stronger than what has been presented against Soneji if I'm going to vote for him.
I doubt I will vote for SVS and I like most of what she has said today, but I've been less-than-confident about her but without a hard case for most of the game. I noted that her strong push against Wilgy on Day 1 looked a bit forced to me, if I am remembering correctly.
Gun To Head. The exercise works like this: We go through the complete list of players a couple at a time, and everyone gives a Gun-to-head read of that player; either civ or bad/town or scum/etc.. The object is to force everyone to take a stance on everyone else. No neutral reads allowed, just a quick gut reaction. Afterwards we compare results and discuss from there. It works best if there's a good amount of people participating, obviously.Made wrote:But yeah, re my last message, basically the entirety of my attention (for the most part anyways) was focused on the people in the other group. Like even ones that hadn't gotten heat yet, like Sorsha I kind wanted to discuss today. Needless to say, the beach has definitely thrown me off balance. The only people even on my radar N1 here were SVS and Soneji.
But enough whining, we're here. Let's get a baddie out of it.
Linki-GTH?
I like this. Let's hear from Bea.S~V~S wrote:Easy distancing perhaps? People voting for each other in a thread with changeable votes doesn't mean much for gauging connection.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Does it make a difference to you that Soneji voted for sig on Day 1?thellama73 wrote:I'd probably still go with Sig, but I'm increasingly comfortable with my vote for Soneji.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you guys are following Golden's vote around, you being the primary one.
Question to everyone on the beach: who would you lynch if everyone was on the poll and not just the Sand-Surfers?
Linki: I'll read you later.
Linki @Prisoner. OK.
I have said what she did, but am happy to do so again. In the other thread, she made one big post where she said she felt Made and Wilgy were getting a bad rap. She did this without pointing fingers at anyone who might be giving them a bad rap, though. Then she wrote several sentences saying nothing, and said that she felt OK about me, LC and (???). "Same old same old" kind of thing. No negative opinions, or even remotely critical, about anyone. Bea and I have a long history. I want to know where she is at. So far I am not sure she is at the same place I am. I am not sure she has expressed even one remote suspect. Bea is always polite, but Bea does not shrink from speaking her mind, even if it is in a very passive way.
Bea is a huge question mark for me.
I'm the Prisoner.S~V~S wrote:Not sure yet. It might stay there. Him and Made both pinged me with their wanting to focus on the other thread. I did a similar thing in a game with split threads like this when I was bad. Bea has also gotten my attention.Prisoner 27385 wrote:You classified your vote on Metalmarsh as temporary. I assume you intend to change it. Why, and who might you change it to?S~V~S wrote:I so want to hear from her! She made some fairly beefy posts towards the end of the night. I don't remember agreeing with her, but I do recall thinking, "Nice content". Same for Coltranes big post in the night.
The majority of the people in this thread were people I had civ or null reads on. So I am pleased that we got split this way, it gives us time to develop reads on each other.
I think I know who you are, based on something you said in the other thread. You aren't a girl, are you?
You classified your vote on Metalmarsh as temporary. I assume you intend to change it. Why, and who might you change it to?S~V~S wrote:I so want to hear from her! She made some fairly beefy posts towards the end of the night. I don't remember agreeing with her, but I do recall thinking, "Nice content". Same for Coltranes big post in the night.
@ scottyPrisoner 27385 wrote:I don't know what I'll be doing with my vote. It's not going to be on you, if that helps.
You don't seem to have any convictions, is what I mean. You'll vote for John Coltrane because "why not?". You'll vote for Boomslang presumably for the same "reason". Or you'll vote for Soneji. At least a case exists there.Scotty wrote:Oops. Fixed.juliets wrote:Well, I guess Scotty didn't change his vote after all.
Hardly constitutes "all angles"Prisoner 27385 wrote:Scotty wrote:Why not?Prisoner 27385 wrote:Why did we all vote for Mr. Coltrane?
I could just as easily vote for Boomslang. Neither has come in to offer a differing reason otherwise.
I'm considering Soneji as an option too.Scotty wrote:It's funny- I think you are the Process. You seem like you're trying really hard, which can be a perceived civ thing to do, but I feel like you're playing all angles.
Is someone a little upset I called them out for being the Process?
Scotty wrote:Why not?Prisoner 27385 wrote:Why did we all vote for Mr. Coltrane?
I could just as easily vote for Boomslang. Neither has come in to offer a differing reason otherwise.
I'm considering Soneji as an option too.
Scotty wrote:It's funny- I think you are the Process. You seem like you're trying really hard, which can be a perceived civ thing to do, but I feel like you're playing all angles.
I am not The Process, I am The Prisoner.Scotty wrote:It's funny- I think you are the Process. You seem like you're trying really hard, which can be a perceived civ thing to do, but I feel like you're playing all angles.Prisoner 27385 wrote:Who do you want to vote for?Scotty wrote:Yes this is the first I've heard of itPrisoner 27385 wrote:Has he done anything that compels you to vote for him?Made wrote:iunno call it gut I guess. I just feel he's susceptible to vote atm.
In other words, probably MM. because Mm
Spent a lot of time justifying a vote at the very end of the Macdougall bandwagon.Scotty wrote:Remind me again what John coltrane has done in this game?
Who do you want to vote for?Scotty wrote:Yes this is the first I've heard of itPrisoner 27385 wrote:Has he done anything that compels you to vote for him?Made wrote:iunno call it gut I guess. I just feel he's susceptible to vote atm.
Has he done anything that compels you to vote for him?Made wrote:iunno call it gut I guess. I just feel he's susceptible to vote atm.
Why Scotty?Made wrote:I feel like our group is more of a crap shoot of who comes up with a theory that sticks. I could see me, I could see you, but i feel like scotty is most vulnerable atm.Prisoner 27385 wrote:Who do you think is going to be lynched at the beach?Made wrote:I'm gonna piggy back on this: As a fun thought experiment, who do you think is going to be lynched in Hatch? Not who would you lynch, but who do you think would be?Prisoner 27385 wrote:My sources and you simply have not been acquainted yet.
Who are your top suspects, whether they're at the beach or not?
In case you forgot:
DharmaHelper (1), Black Rock (3), Quin (8), Long Con (13), timmer (14), DrWilgy (16), sig (22), Professor Farnsworth (23), Sorsha (24), TheFloyd73 (26), LoRab (27) 39%
Personally I'd guess Sig but would deffo put LoRab in there as a toss up.
Who do you think is going to be lynched at the beach?Made wrote:I'm gonna piggy back on this: As a fun thought experiment, who do you think is going to be lynched in Hatch? Not who would you lynch, but who do you think would be?Prisoner 27385 wrote:My sources and you simply have not been acquainted yet.
Who are your top suspects, whether they're at the beach or not?
In case you forgot:
DharmaHelper (1), Black Rock (3), Quin (8), Long Con (13), timmer (14), DrWilgy (16), sig (22), Professor Farnsworth (23), Sorsha (24), TheFloyd73 (26), LoRab (27) 39%
Personally I'd guess Sig but would deffo put LoRab in there as a toss up.
My sources can tell me nothing about you, but I do not suspect you for asking questions. I am all in favor of questions and if you are town, those were good questions to ask.juliets wrote:What was suspicious about me questioning Epi? I wasn't going to just believe his assertion that Macdougall was bad without asking questions. Black Rock had the same amount of posts or one more than Macdougall and those posts also seemed to be devoid of content. I was asking Epi to differentiate between the two.Prisoner 27385 wrote:Two posts in particular: First, you questioned Epi's suggestion that Mac was bad and said something to the effect of "Black Rock has the same amount of content." The second was your post about how you saw "no evidence" to suggest Mac was just low on time which we talked about a few hours ago.juliets wrote:Refresh my memory - what leads you to believe I bussed Macdougall? I was one of the researchers for his meta.Prisoner 27385 wrote:My analysis of the Macdougall voters for potential bussers led me to name llama and juliets as the two most likely candidates. Llama is otherwise a civ read. Juliets is an uncertainty, so for the sake of discussion I'll call her my top suspect here.
On the issue of me saying there was no evidence Mac was just low on time, I was asking you to explain why you stated with certainly that he was low on time when he never mentioned anything in the thread about it. You didn't state it as an opinion, you stated it as if it were fact. I questioned how you knew this as it seemed to me you had knowledge that the rest of us didn't - maybe because he was your bts partner. After we discussed this in the thread you asked for a third party to give you an opinion about this interaction. Llama stated he thought I was right to ask you about your statements and you proceeded to question him as if his opinion - which you had asked for - was somehow wrong.
You seem to think I'm suspicious for asking questions. Have you never played with me before? Questioning is a hallmark of my style.
Two posts in particular: First, you questioned Epi's suggestion that Mac was bad and said something to the effect of "Black Rock has the same amount of content." The second was your post about how you saw "no evidence" to suggest Mac was just low on time which we talked about a few hours ago.juliets wrote:Refresh my memory - what leads you to believe I bussed Macdougall? I was one of the researchers for his meta.Prisoner 27385 wrote:My analysis of the Macdougall voters for potential bussers led me to name llama and juliets as the two most likely candidates. Llama is otherwise a civ read. Juliets is an uncertainty, so for the sake of discussion I'll call her my top suspect here.
I did not.thellama73 wrote:Did you see my summary of all Macdougall's interactions?Prisoner 27385 wrote:I missed whatever was being discussed over the last 5 hours or so in the main thread. What's relevant?
