The Syndicate

Maid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:44 pm Eod 2


Akemi Homura 1 9% Voters: Maid

My Shell 1 9% Voters: Paprika

nutellaphant 3 27% Voters: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Quokka

Paprika 4 36% Voters: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphant

PonySparkPrime 1 9% Voters: Fuskdall

I forgot I copy pasted this poll before Eod at post 815.

Pony voted Akemi at Eod instead Nutphant's counter and this means for me his wolf equity is very low.

Thanks for talking about his voting behaviour, to realise this.

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:47 pm The mentions of tsp are all early in the wall — suggests “oh I have to get this out of the way” vs a read that can be pushed or developed. And I think the specific criticism is designed to be hand waved away as “tsp being tsp”. As for Marmot, similar — very few mentions in the post, and then thrown into the town section of the reads list at the end for reasons undetermined

Imagine you are subbing in a doomed wolf slot, what exactly do you have to do?

Nutphant's slot could never endgame, I think all that post is a huge trap for village.

And, of course, who support your idea

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:27 pm It also says TSP wolf

I wanted to read that stuff later, can you extract exactly the words you think are useful for us?

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:08 pm Maid I understand my voting record around Nut doesn't look good, I'm aware I made mistakes. But please look at me as a whole and see the villager inside just trying to make sense of things, telling truth about my role, I did really attempt to shoot Nut after paprika flipped and was feeling bad I had helped save her both days and I still don't know why it didn't go through.

No one can proove this, I try to find evidence by searching how the game was played.

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:08 pm For my meta read on you it is real, no idea if you realize who I am but I have a history of reading you correctly in the past. Though I think I even was townreading your slot before I even fully realized who you were just because you felt strongly like a villager in your engagement with the thread.

I don’t know who you are, however there are a limited number of players who can say such a thing.

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:08 pm Try looking at Pony, I can pull quotes later if I have time but I am very sure that iso does not feel like a villager, it is lots of short non-committal engagements jumping around topics based on thread temperature and a couple places I think as a wolf he tried to take position on misyeet opportunities.

Quotes would be very useful, thanks.

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:08 pm Compare my iso, you are just calling me wolf because I had the wrong view of Nut and inconsistent suspicion of her d1 that was just my thoughts taking shape, not a distance or bus, think of it from uninformed village pov, like a waterfall. Look at me as a whole with my d2 solving and d3 claim, I have made mistakes but is all truth. Versus look at Pony as a whole, his takes are stiff and do not help solve but is only poking at places he thinks he can poke. That iso is not one of a villager I am confident.

If Pony is a wolf, who their last partner?

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:07 am

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:19 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:56 pm ...why bring it up then? I don't understand what you are going for here

I didn’t bring it up, did I

Mornin'

Have you ever tried to RP as Dusk? I'm just curious.

Not that hard, just in style a bit tbh

Your Iso is full of allusions of meta for many players, my impression was that your only concern was to identify the real players behind the sockpuppet accounts.
Am I right?

I will salute the 7 guests and take my leave. I'll be back.

Reading this Iso, still working

My Shell wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:50 pm I see your vote is on Nutellaphant I could vote there maybe as she did not explain any reads

She never voted Nut in day 1

My Shell wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:15 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:13 pm The quoted paprika post there calling out a tr on another tr was one I couldn't figure out

What are your actual reads My Shell?

Maid martin and you most town

Nurse towny

Dodo and nutella lean wolf

Others unsure

I know I didn't deserve the TR, and the idea she knew who I am is too shallow to justify the read.

My Shell wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:58 pm Still think nutella was maybe saved shoudl we vote there again

but she didn't really take a real stance by voting herself

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:47 am

Paprika wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:14 am MyShell I shan't death-tunnel you and keep open-minded. But I just want to say that your logs at EoD seemed so Self-Preservation. Can you just read over them one more time? You can see that your iso logs have not mentioned any scumcase, not even a little reasoning, on either Boring or Nutella. Also, you said one werewolf was between me and dodo but at least you gave a read for that when you thought I was scummy.

What was your read on Nutella and why, they only have 9 logs so it seems like a rather easy push. I want to hear some good scam cases for at least 2 people or I think I'd vote for you today.


@nutellaphant got a read on the situation? It was a pretty spicy EoD for you, wasn't it?

Self Preservation is what Town should do is not scummy. I know my own role so that informs vote at Eod as it is any good villager's responsibility to increase likelyhood of eliminating wolf.

I gave reasons for both Nutella and Boring clearly you have not read my Iso, it is there if you look. I thought they were not explaining their thought processes and looked to be coasting along without real solving mindset.

Self preservation would mean a vote on Nut at tied wagons, right?

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:51 pm

nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:29 pm disregard my statement about dodo dying clearing people, it actually doesn't matter whatsoever in this case.
i don't really have the time to case paprika right now, but i think the slot is mafia. the towniest thing about it is the fact they defended a flipped villager yesterday, but I don't think it goes beyond white-knighting and into the "v defending v" territory.

I am interested to hear this view on paprika

this seems w/w

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:37 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:35 pm

My Shell wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:24 pm I voted boring wagon bc it felt right in the moment as they had a very wolfy pop in. But kind of regret the choice since maybe Nut was being saved.

What read you had for Nutphant before Eod?

Had light wolf read but was not my preference over dodo, felt around equal between nutella and boring boi.

a continuous evasion from voting Nut, this is the shortest conclusion I have now.

[VOTE: MyShell] aubergine

Maid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm Quokka - Maid (p55) > Fusk (p62) > Maid (p99) > Dodo (p155) > MyShell (p465)
Martin - PSP (p65) > Maid (95) > Nutphant (p319) > MyShell (p499)
MyShell - 1337 (p78) > Nurse (p89) > Dodo (p168)
Maid - 1337 (p81) > Unvote (p138) > Akemi (p306) > Unvote (p467) > MyShell (p473)
PSP - Martin (p92) > Paprika (p469)
Akemi - Nutphant (p102) > Dodo (231) > Nutphant (p327)
Dodo - Maid (p142) > Quokka (p190) > TSP (223) > Paprika (p394)
Paprika - Dodo (p165) > MyShell (p423)

MyShell's wagon had 3 villagers, 2 flipped confirmed, and myself. Quokka left Dodo's wagon to follow Paprika, I don't think a wolf would left a wagon of 3 to join a new formed wagon who could maybe not get traction so soon, I think maybe Quokka is villager too.
Quokka's post has an entire reasoning behind the change of the vote, who looks like an actual thought.

Quokka wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:30 pm I think I'm less sus of dodo now. She would probably just vote nutellaphant if she was scum, unless they're W/W, but the wagons wouldn't be this stagnant if they're W/W.

My Shell has copped a lot of suspicion, but nobody seems willing to vote there. So ima do this and see what happens.

[VOTE: My Shell] aubergine

This wagon was very volatile and sensitive at thread's changes, and

Paprika was the only one who remained on MyShell, but a new wagon was formed on Boy

Maid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm The votes in the thread are until the post 500Eod
Quokka - Maid (p55) > Fusk (p62) > Maid (p99) > Dodo (p155) > MyShell (p465) > Boy (p545)
Martin - PSP (p65) > Maid (95) > Nutphant (p319) > MyShell (p499) > Boy (p541) > Nutphant (p555)
MyShell - 1337 (p78) > Nurse (p89) > Dodo (p168) > Boy (p542)
Maid - 1337 (p81) > Unvote (p138) > Akemi (p306) > Unvote (p467) > MyShell (p473) > Boy (p553)
PSP - Martin (p92) > Paprika (p469) > Dodo (p511) > Boy (p539)
Akemi - Nutphant (p102) > Dodo (231) > Nutphant (p327)
Dodo - Maid (p142) > Quokka (p190) > TSP (223) > Paprika (p394) > Boy (p556)
Paprika - Dodo (p165) > MyShell (p423)

Boy's wagon:
- started by PSP in post 539,
- immediatly received Martin from MyShell's wagon/p541,
- MyShell from Dodo's wagon/p542,
- Quokka /p545,
- Maid /p553 both from MyShell's wagon, the wagon on Boy became a 5 players wagon, but Martin switched in p555 to Nut, making it at 4.
- the one who tied the wagons were Dodo, at least in the tread's votes, because I know I saw Nut's wagon at 2 votes difference from Boy's, one from Boy's wagon made a double switch and I wish to know who.
While PSP searched for the best vote, so at least this is my impression, MyShell didn't even try to self press into Nut when she had a tied wagon with her, but joined the CFD on Boy. Her vote on Dodo was frozen for a big part of day one.
From all the Eod 1 voting behaviours, MyShell's looks very scummy.

Possible bussing in day 1 are just Akemi or Fusk, but 2 NKs from that wagon means maybe scum are off that wagon.

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:19 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:56 pm ...why bring it up then? I don't understand what you are going for here

I didn’t bring it up, did I

Mornin'

Have you ever tried to RP as Dusk? I'm just curious.

Maid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:33 pm

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:40 pm My Shell is going on the naughty list. They keep promising us a vig kill and but we keep getting coal.

This is the players list, the alive and dead, who is in your Poe now, and whom would you shot if you would have a vig shot?

1337
Akemi Homura - best RP day 3
Fuskdall
Maid
My Shell - best RP day 2
PonySparkPrime
Quokka

Boringboi666 - Town Parity Cop, 2 shots, never used, possible bonus: +1 shot
dodo - Town Macho Bodyguard, used, we don't know who was protected, possible bonus: a will
Paprika - Town Dictator, we don't know if he activated ability, possible bonus: mafia will not copy his ability
NurseWilgy - Town Enchantress, crystal ball would show sock puppet real name, if I get correct how this works if the last who had the item is night killed the item get wasted. Possible bonus: the item shows last passer's AI (I see now why was he roleplaying so convincingly)
nutellaphant - Mafia Rolecop, not limited, RP bonus: possibility to check 2 players
MartinWP69 - Town Architect, best RP day 1, 2 shots neighbourizer for 2 different players for one night + next day, I am sure this was used, and I wonder on whom. RP bonus: + 2 shots

Looking at these actions I see how town had a real bad luck by killing parity cop in day 1 and despite Nurse having a very good role playing from my POV, they didn't receive the possibility to show an AI with the crystal ball, while mafia's role cop with unlimited shots looks more powerful. Mafia had the possibility to check 3 players until Nutphant died.

I noted these to come back at them when I need them because posting itt is better than keeping them in my notebook.

@PonySparkPrime please answer at this post

nutellaphant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:06 am it's still possible a wolf pushed on dodo, but i don't think it's a situation where several dodo pushers are mafia and then they decided to nightkill dodo. that doesn't really check out to me.
so, i'm willing to make a bold statement that the dodo pushers contain 1 wolf at most.

Ignoring for now the catching up saga, this post contains or not a slip. If Nut 2 started with the idea to post in antispew mode, I will get drunk with their wine.
Though, I have to read the Iso.

I need to think at it.

Eod 2


Akemi Homura 1 9% Voters: Maid

My Shell 1 9% Voters: Paprika

nutellaphant 3 27% Voters: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Quokka

Paprika 4 36% Voters: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphant

PonySparkPrime 1 9% Voters: Fuskdall

I saw a mistake, it's easy to understand the last votes are for the Eod poll, and I let 'until the post 500'.
Sorry.

At post 500 we had this poll:

dodo 3 23% Voters: 1337, My Shell, PonySparkPrime

My Shell 4 31% Voters: MartinWP69, Maid, Paprika, Quokka

NurseWilgy 1 8% Voters: nutellaphant

nutellaphant 4 31% Voters: Fuskdall, NurseWilgy, Boringboi666, Akemi Homura

Paprika 1 8% Voters: dodo

The votes in the thread are until the post 500
Quokka - Maid (p55) > Fusk (p62) > Maid (p99) > Dodo (p155) > MyShell (p465)
Martin - PSP (p65) > Maid (95) > Nutphant (p319) > MyShell (p499)
MyShell - 1337 (p78) > Nurse (p89) > Dodo (p168)
Maid - 1337 (p81) > Unvote (p138) > Akemi (p306) > Unvote (p467) > MyShell (p473)
PSP - Martin (p92) > Paprika (p469)
Akemi - Nutphant (p102) > Dodo (231) > Nutphant (p327)
Dodo - Maid (p142) > Quokka (p190) > TSP (223) > Paprika (p394)
Paprika - Dodo (p165) > MyShell (p423)


The End of day the VC was

Boringboi666 5 38% Voters: My Shell, Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo

dodo 1 8% Voters: 1337


My Shell 1 8% Voters: Paprika

NurseWilgy 1 8% Voters: nutellaphant

nutellaphant 5 38% Voters: Fuskdall, MartinWP69, NurseWilgy, Boringboi666, Akemi Homura

The votes in the thread are until the post 500
Quokka - Maid (p55) > Fusk (p62) > Maid (p99) > Dodo (p155) > MyShell (p465) > Boy (p545)
Martin - PSP (p65) > Maid (95) > Nutphant (p319) > MyShell (p499) > Boy (p541) > Nutphant (p555)
MyShell - 1337 (p78) > Nurse (p89) > Dodo (p168) > Boy (p542)
Maid - 1337 (p81) > Unvote (p138) > Akemi (p306) > Unvote (p467) > MyShell (p473) > Boy (p553)
PSP - Martin (p92) > Paprika (p469) > Dodo (p511) > Boy (p539) >
Akemi - Nutphant (p102) > Dodo (231) > Nutphant (p327)
Dodo - Maid (p142) > Quokka (p190) > TSP (223) > Paprika (p394) > Boy (p556)
Paprika - Dodo (p165) > MyShell (p423)


Analysis in other post,

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:13 pm These recent posts by Maid have been townie, what does your POE look like Maid?

It's a work in progress, I will share everything I have in mind.

The to do list includes wagons of day one and probably day 2 if I have time, and Nutphant 's Iso. '

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:07 pm why do you need an explanation

why me?

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:05 am im a cop, maid is green

I need an explanation for this post asap

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:40 pm My Shell is going on the naughty list. They keep promising us a vig kill and but we keep getting coal.

This is the players list, the alive and dead, who is in your Poe now, and whom would you shot if you would have a vig shot?

1337
Akemi Homura - best RP day 3
Fuskdall
Maid
My Shell - best RP day 2
PonySparkPrime
Quokka

Boringboi666 - Town Parity Cop, 2 shots, never used, possible bonus: +1 shot
dodo - Town Macho Bodyguard, used, we don't know who was protected, possible bonus: a will
Paprika - Town Dictator, we don't know if he activated ability, possible bonus: mafia will not copy his ability
NurseWilgy - Town Enchantress, crystal ball would show sock puppet real name, if I get correct how this works if the last who had the item is night killed the item get wasted. Possible bonus: the item shows last passer's AI (I see now why was he roleplaying so convincingly)
nutellaphant - Mafia Rolecop, not limited, RP bonus: possibility to check 2 players
MartinWP69 - Town Architect, best RP day 1, 2 shots neighbourizer for 2 different players for one night + next day, I am sure this was used, and I wonder on whom. RP bonus: + 2 shots

Looking at these actions I see how town had a real bad luck by killing parity cop in day 1 and despite Nurse having a very good role playing from my POV, they didn't receive the possibility to show an AI with the crystal ball, while mafia's role cop with unlimited shots looks more powerful. Mafia had the possibility to check 3 players until Nutphant died.

I noted these to come back at them when I need them because posting itt is better than keeping them in my notebook.

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:00 pm Let’s all entertain a Fuskdall tinfoil.

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:28 pm Quokka feels town now.

I still think their POE is entirely wrong.

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm Why would Mafia My Shell fake claim vig today?

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:11 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:54 pm Martin who will you suspect if I am town?

Idk. You?

Well you better start thinking soon because I am.

Currently I think I suspect Maid the most, followed by PSP, followed by you. After some re-reads especially of your long explanation post and the stubborn way you have attacked me, it feels slightly town, not enough to clear you but enough to put you above the other two.

Maid and TopShelfProduct are my two strongest townreads coming out of my adventure last night.

reposting this.

Sometimes the NK is a player who succeed to clear others and help to make a better Poe. Just the first idea I have while reading Martin's last posts.

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:24 am

Maid wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:43 am Martin was lock town because of the vote on Nutphant who made equal wagons at end of day 2, and I will check his Poe to find why was he killed. I know it is Wifom, but it's not always like this.

@My Shell explain your case on Fusk please.

I will not say that Nutphant was not bussed in the first 2 days, because yesterday it's obvious she was so Akemi is still suspicious for her TMI-like read for Nutphant, and I need to reread to check this.

I am glad the day is longer, I wish for everyone, no matter if they celebrates it or not, to have a

Merry Christmas!!!!

You said you were going to read Martin's posts to try to determine your conclusions, what do you think?

I think Christmas is not mafia friendly.
Imma do it later though and share ideas

1337 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:08 am

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:05 am Eh, 1612 might have been forced into the EOD. It’s WIFOM. But I think 1612 is very towny on account of other reasons

Is this a meta read uwu

Quokka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:28 am I wouldn't say so, 1337 might actually be the towniest person here paradoxically enough.

I don't think this works like this, for me they had a NAI end of day.

Martin was lock town because of the vote on Nutphant who made equal wagons at end of day 2, and I will check his Poe to find why was he killed. I know it is Wifom, but it's not always like this.

@My Shell explain your case on Fusk please.

I will not say that Nutphant was not bussed in the first 2 days, because yesterday it's obvious she was so Akemi is still suspicious for her TMI-like read for Nutphant, and I need to reread to check this.

I am glad the day is longer, I wish for everyone, no matter if they celebrates it or not, to have a

Merry Christmas!!!!

I have to leave like I said earlier, RL calls me.

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:49 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:48 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:44 pm I see.

Can you explain your case on Akemi a bit more, I don't think I fully understand it. Is it just that Akemi claimed Mason with Fuskdall but wasn't?

The mason claim, with antitown behaviour at the game start and lack of solve now.

"antitown behavior at the game start"

show your work.

Nah

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:44 pm I see.

Can you explain your case on Akemi a bit more, I don't think I fully understand it. Is it just that Akemi claimed Mason with Fuskdall but wasn't?

The mason claim, with antitown behaviour at the game start and lack of solve now.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:32 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:31 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:28 pm I am tired of being suspected and I think the mafia are constantly trying to raise suspicion on me for bad reasons. I have a role that can be proven to be town 100%. I will not give you the details today because we are always chopping nutella and I want to keep the mafia in the dark, but I will explain the details tomorrow. I will start by looking at the people who tried to push me as I think I was seen as an easy mischop and they were trying to lay the groundwork for voting me off tomorrow.

If you are tired of being suspected, how about you do some towny work instead making weak reasonings for me being mafia just because?

I am not making weak reasonings. I am trying my best to solve the game and from my POV I think I was seen as an easy mischop. If you are townie then show me why your suspicion on me was real and tell me who you think mafia is and why.

I voted to test the thread, to see if anyone would follow the wagon.
Now, depending on the flip, the lack of votes on you may have a meaning or not.

I don't know your AI and I think Akemi is mafia. Unfortunately we have to get rid of the suspicion we have on Nutphant and only after we can think at the game more accurate and at possible associations.
Ftr Akemi for me is independently wolfy.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:28 pm I am tired of being suspected and I think the mafia are constantly trying to raise suspicion on me for bad reasons. I have a role that can be proven to be town 100%. I will not give you the details today because we are always chopping nutella and I want to keep the mafia in the dark, but I will explain the details tomorrow. I will start by looking at the people who tried to push me as I think I was seen as an easy mischop and they were trying to lay the groundwork for voting me off tomorrow.

If you are tired of being suspected, how about you do some towny work instead making weak reasonings for me being mafia just because?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:25 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:22 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

Who intervened? Who are the other players?

My Shell and Fuskdall did.

And you are confident they changed my opinion in any way?

I think Fuskdall made it impossible to chop me by saying we should always vote nutella today, hence it would explain why the wagon on me disappeared. Before Fuskdall came in the wagon was 2 votes on me 3 votes on nutella and there was a real chance there would be more EOD chaos.

Well, this is your POV.

I disagree, Nutphant was always today's yeet.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:25 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:24 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:16 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:01 pm Would anyone in the game like to express a uniform hatred of flash wagons and EID chaos?

No, I am a fan of CFDs. Chaos in the form of switching wagons as much as possible in a rush of an Eod is making mafia unsure and reveals things that otherwise are hidden.

Usually I would agree but they have been anti-town this game.

Just because Boy flipped town doesn't mean the CFD was anitown.
Do you think mafia made the CFD?

Yes. The thread was dead until I came in and then there was suddenly a flurry of activity.

Maybe the activity was not because of your presence, but because Eod was near.

My Shell wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:21 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:17 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:16 pm

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:14 pm I don't remember anything from Pony really. Only that Fusk seems to think it's Sloonei, but I saw a very non-sloonei-esque joke by them today, so I'm gonna veto that idea.

It's definitely not sloonei

Martin was my other Sloonei guess, but that's off the table too.

I miss knowing where Sloonei is. I just miss Sloonei.

Why is that off the table I thought his posts today were Lock Sloonei

I don't know who Sloonei is

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:16 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:01 pm Would anyone in the game like to express a uniform hatred of flash wagons and EID chaos?

No, I am a fan of CFDs. Chaos in the form of switching wagons as much as possible in a rush of an Eod is making mafia unsure and reveals things that otherwise are hidden.

Usually I would agree but they have been anti-town this game.

Just because Boy flipped town doesn't mean the CFD was anitown.
Do you think mafia made the CFD?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:54 pm You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

Who intervened? Who are the other players?

My Shell and Fuskdall did.

And you are confident they changed my opinion in any way?

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:01 pm Would anyone in the game like to express a uniform hatred of flash wagons and EID chaos?

No, I am a fan of CFDs. Chaos in the form of switching wagons as much as possible in a rush of an Eod is making mafia unsure and reveals things that otherwise are hidden.

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:06 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:54 pm You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

Only after other players intervened to get the wagon back on track by repeating that we should chop nutella.

Who intervened? Who are the other players?

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:54 pm You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Martin and you voted me, and it was bad reasoning. I am not over explaining anything, I am pointing out that the pattern of suspicion on me is similar to the patterns used to save nutella on previous days.

No it's not, proof is the wagon vanished.

nutellaphant wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:52 pm this wagon formation never kills a wolf

MartinWP69
2
22%
Voters: Quokka, nutellaphant

My Shell
1
11%
Voters: 1337

nutellaphant
6
67%
Voters: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Fuskdall, My Shell, PonySparkPrime, Maid

You mean no wolf is wagoned?

You say you are voted for bad reasond, except you are not voted and you're playing with words Quokka, and you are over explaining simple things.

My Poe is Akemi and Quokka.
Depending on the flip, may be +1, but Nutphant showed a big scum equity for me

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:37 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:35 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:33 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:32 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:31 pm [VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine

I am back and I will move my vote back onto nutellaphant.

Martin you are twisting my words again. You clearly said that I didn't give a read on you, but my post was obviously a read and you are splitting hairs by saying there's a difference between calling you POE and calling you mafia, when my post had reasons to scumread you. It clearly showed a picture of you as mafia. I think my POE can easily be right.

Do you believe that your POE can easily be right? Your poe includes nutella, right? and then those three?

Yes. Made has trended down for me as well, but I think the solve can be for example nutella, Martin and PonyStarkPrime. I don't see why that can't be the mafia team and I dislike that Martin is trying to push me off it by ridicule.

Okay, I do think that the initial way you phrased your poe made it seem as if nutella was not in your poe. That might have been a misreading on my part.

I said the POE was excluding nutella. The pattern is the same all days, we have consensus on nutella, and then suddenly someone else is voted up due to being sus, and gains a lot of heat in the last few moments, and we have EOD chaos and nutella survives again. That's why I said the timing of the sus on me was bad and how much votes I gained quickly wasn't a good look. It's also why Made has trended down for voting me after Martin did.

2 votes are never a big wagon, why are you so scared?

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:36 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:32 pm I may not be present at Eod, family Christmas preparations take a long time.

you may not be present but you'll get present

A good present would be Nutphant flipping wolf

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:33 pm

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:32 pm

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:31 pm [VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine

I am back and I will move my vote back onto nutellaphant.

Martin you are twisting my words again. You clearly said that I didn't give a read on you, but my post was obviously a read and you are splitting hairs by saying there's a difference between calling you POE and calling you mafia, when my post had reasons to scumread you. It clearly showed a picture of you as mafia. I think my POE can easily be right.

Do you believe that your POE can easily be right? Your poe includes nutella, right? and then those three?

Yes. Made has trended down for me as well, but I think the solve can be for example nutella, Martin and PonyStarkPrime. I don't see why that can't be the mafia team and I dislike that Martin is trying to push me off it by ridicule.

Pfft

Quokka wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:31 pm All this sudden sus on me comes at a bad timing, I think mafia is trying to set me up as a mischop. I won't stand for it.

Your wagon was me following Martin.
It wasn’t a bad timing at all.

I may not be present at Eod, family Christmas preparations take a long time.

Fuskdall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:27 pm

MartinWP69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:26 pm [VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine to resolve that problem once and for all. Threadstate feels like they’re mafia and the team has decided to distance.

Quokka is my first guess for a partner if this vote is correct.

VILLAGERY MIND MELD

Why the caps?

Ok, if Nutphant is today's consensus, then I will respect it

[VOTE: Nutellaphant ] aubergine

Why would have a villager such a weak presence?

Akemi Homura wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:10 pm

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm how does alison feel so non-existant for having 126 posts

this post really hurts me, but I agree.

PonySparkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:59 pm

Maid wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:37 pm After I found out that Martin had a reasoning, I think I can see this as an attempt to solve.

Reasoning for what?

For making a list for who voted for Nutphant