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- Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:23 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:38 pm
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I think that just means he didn't feel comfortable with lynching me. I don't think this post has much to do with you or Coltrane.Charles Mingus wrote:Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:33 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I was pushing and testing you in case you were attempting to claim another power role or what.Charles Mingus wrote:We knew who the cop was the first time you asked.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?![]()
And I already gave you my answer here:
Charles Mingus wrote:It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.
But I forgot that vompatti had cleared you, so I don't think it matters either way.
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:32 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
My vote is going on Bill Dixon at least until he comes in and posts today.
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:31 pm
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Actually, never mind, I don't want to ask that question anymore.
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:29 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:15 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Perhaps it isn't sudden.Charles Mingus wrote:Wow Hiromi, just wow. If you were paying any attention at all you would know that it's not exactly sudden.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
I'm still having trouble finding the answer to the "why" part though. You have defended me, but the defenses have more to do with the other players' actions, and less to do with my behavior. I'm not saying it's completely illegitimate, but does it have anything to do with what I've done?
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:37 am
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
My vote is probably going to Bill Dixon or Charles Mingus today, though most likely the former of these two.
Unfortunately, looking at the interactions of dead players with all other players is next to useless.
Unfortunately, looking at the interactions of dead players with all other players is next to useless.
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:32 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:36 pm
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
That sounds like a neat idea, and one I've never heard of before.Silverwolf wrote:Hydras are great because you can have two people or sometimes even three people collaborate together on a game. Chosen mafia was a game ika and I hydra'd in on MS. We caught one of the scum D1. Then, called out the other one that was lynched after we died. We also have our scum game where we were werewolves. We did bus our buddy but he was worthless and town wouldn't lynch him due to that. It was hilarious. We were widely townread that game.
So what I mean is, hydra's are more powerful because you have multiple perspectives.
Do other sites generally allow the players to each have their own account, even if they come together to play under a hydra from time-to-time? That's something we've never encountered here.
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:38 am
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
We don't have a smiley for that, probably for the greater good.Miles Davis wrote: Eat a dick, Hiromi! jk![]()

I don't know if you were, I just felt the need to mediate if it came off that way. But based on what I've said earlier in this game, I'm probably the last person who should be telling folks not to be mean to Bela.Miles Davis wrote:I didn't feel like I was being critical or harsh at all. I was friendly and helpful... wasn't I?![]()

- Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Mwuahahahahahahaha, I just posted 3 times in a row!!!
If you don't count nonplayer posts that is.

If you don't count nonplayer posts that is.

- Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:30 am
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
If hydra is the term used for these ghost accounts, we usually call them socks or sockpuppets, but I think that's the word you are looking for.Bela Fleck wrote:poe =process of elimination, as i have ALREADY SAIDHiromi Uehara wrote:What is Poe?Bela Fleck wrote:Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
There's a lot more to how I can figure people's roles out but if you want the full run down I can do that when I am home
I was saying the exact same things as Coleman. What I want to know is how you came to the conclusion that he was the cop, yet suspected me at the same time?
anyways, its near impossible for me to expalin cus it litarly makes little to no sense, but ill try anyway. its better explained hands on by example in a hydra is that a thing on here btw?
but with the flip of a gf its says "hi theres a cop" so the next thign that comes up is to see how players are acting, know it or not, when people play pr vs civ, they tend to have a sense of "awareness" not a scum awareness of a scum team but jsut seems to react diffrently then how a civ does
not only that but i have been playing for 4 years so i have picked up on quite a few tells that come from civ vs non-civ players
@ the other folks, let's not criticize Bela for using acronyms that we don't know. He can't automatically know all of our terminology just from playing a game or two here. We can be a little more patient and ask what they mean, and share our own variation if possible. The beauty of having players from other mafia cultures come play here is they bring a new spice to our lives. They should not automatically have to play and act exactly as we do.
I mean, he used the acronym "PR" (which I believe is power role), and posted 3 times in a row. It's not like he told someone to eat a dick or something.
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:23 am
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
EBWOP: understood
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:22 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
What's wrong with posting thrice in a row? I never understand the deal with that.
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:55 am
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
An unofficial one will do.Ricochet wrote:Due to the closed setup, I will make no official statement regarding this.John Coltrane wrote:@Hosts How many mafia members are there?
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:32 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I didn't have a posting restriction ever. I just chose not to post.Bela Fleck wrote:Well it's dependent on if the post restriction was due to or play or notMiles Davis wrote:Not Hiromi any more?Bela Fleck wrote:Re reading the game it's between Dixon and Davis right now I'm mobile still but I can make it more later if I can
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:09 am
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
What is Poe?Bela Fleck wrote:Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
There's a lot more to how I can figure people's roles out but if you want the full run down I can do that when I am home
I was saying the exact same things as Coleman. What I want to know is how you came to the conclusion that he was the cop, yet suspected me at the same time?
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:25 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
What if there are crazy mechanics in this game like the last Heist?Vince Guaraldi wrote:Hey cats, sorry I pulled a drive-by vote but I'm glad it went through. I was having horrible connection issues in my travels. I finally got signal and tried to write a post and lost signal. Next time I got signal, I just voted.
RIP Coleman. Unsocked, the behavior makes a lot more sense. Shame to lose the cop. I will also check back to see if he made any hard confirmations or seemed to suggest anything.
As to the question about how many baddies there are, Heist rules mandate 10 civvies and 3 baddies, so we're looking for a solo killer so long as this game follows the guidelines. It was made pretty clear after the last game that that is the setup for these types of games.

- Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:18 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I've changed my mind about Bela for the time being. I think the last mafia is in this group.
- Charles Mingus
Miles Davis
Bill Dixon
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:14 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:07 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Rest / Night 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I have twice had to vote to save myself.Bela Fleck wrote:Let's see, terrible votes, inacitve, night kill.Charles Mingus wrote:This is one instance where knowing the player behind the sock would have changed my mind completely, quite a shame. I still don't see any actual reasons for suspecting Hiromi yet and I will fight a lynch against her tomorrow.
There's more then enough reasons to do so, you have been wrong on everyone how about you listen for a change?
I left for a while because I didn't want to offend anyone.
I don't understand why the nightkill choice makes me the killer. Can you explain that one to me?
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:48 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Voting Coleman before I forget/miss it.
I think Charles' assessment is not far off either.
I think Charles' assessment is not far off either.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:39 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
If there is a reason, I'd like to hear it. I just really hope it isn't personal.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:37 pm
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Bela didn't exactly do a bang-up job of justifying it.Vince Guaraldi wrote:Probably because you're not exactly doing a bang-up job of justifying your existence. That and nobody really wanted to dog-pile on Mingus with him.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Why do you move your vote to me?Bela Fleck wrote:moved vote
Hence the"why" part of my question.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:34 pm
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I get the suspicion of Ornette, and would vote for him
I am still a little suspicious of Bela, because of who was killed last night. But I also understand that it is a big fat bowl of WIFOM, so I won't act on that.
I am still a little suspicious of Bela, because of who was killed last night. But I also understand that it is a big fat bowl of WIFOM, so I won't act on that.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:32 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Why do you move your vote to me?Bela Fleck wrote:moved vote
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:31 pm
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Yes I do! And I've already said as much.sig wrote:Do you think anyone else is a confirmed civ? And in general what are your thoughts.Hiromi Uehara wrote:And for what it's worth, Vince Guaraldi is confirmed civ.

I think you are a nonplayer.
- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:02 pm
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
And for what it's worth, Vince Guaraldi is confirmed civ. 

- Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:00 pm
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Re: [Day / Take 3] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I'm sorry for being MIA everyone. I decided to take a little breather after Day 2.
Without reading them, I can guess a couple reasons Ornette is getting votes today. He soft-defended Buble on Day 1. He also voted for Tito despite never mentioning an intention or reason
Without reading them, I can guess a couple reasons Ornette is getting votes today. He soft-defended Buble on Day 1. He also voted for Tito despite never mentioning an intention or reason
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:44 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I was intending to mimic another personality who used to play here. I meant no harm.Bela Fleck wrote:I knownot everyone is aware of the incident that happened to us. we are still acommidaitng to the site ourselfHiromi Uehara wrote:I apologize for my behavior
I dont know who was behind the scoks so i was just teasing
It wont happen anymore
I am aware of the situation, I just didn't connect the dots between the various socks in this game and how they might react to my statements.
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:36 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I apologize for my behavior
I dont know who was behind the scoks so i was just teasing
It wont happen anymore
I dont know who was behind the scoks so i was just teasing

It wont happen anymore
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:27 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I would let him take me out to dinner and dance for meBillie Holiday wrote:What does semi-erotic kind of way mean?Hiromi Uehara wrote:I dont understand why billie would be in danger if bela is lynchedMiles Davis wrote:1. What's the difference between "lining someone up for lynch" and suspecting that someone is bad?Bela Fleck wrote:Your lining up me and then your going to lynch sivler next you have said, my top town readMiles Davis wrote:I'm lining up two towns for lynch? Which two?
2. I never said I want to lynch Billie Holiday. My other two suspects are Bill Dixon and Ornette Coleman.
I think bela is scummy in a semi-erotic kind of way
but only if he likes sushi
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:17 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I dont understand why billie would be in danger if bela is lynchedMiles Davis wrote:1. What's the difference between "lining someone up for lynch" and suspecting that someone is bad?Bela Fleck wrote:Your lining up me and then your going to lynch sivler next you have said, my top town readMiles Davis wrote:I'm lining up two towns for lynch? Which two?
2. I never said I want to lynch Billie Holiday. My other two suspects are Bill Dixon and Ornette Coleman.
I think bela is scummy in a semi-erotic kind of way
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:11 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I have a personal preference for people with lost of typos in the right places
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:08 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I was reminded by another mind, Billie Holiday is confirmed civ 

- Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:06 am
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Re: [Take / Day 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Maybe if I alt-slip I would be less badderBillie Holiday wrote:Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?
- Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:46 pm
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Re: [Take / Day 1] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Thats a personal question kCharles Mingus wrote:The fuck is this?Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bill Dixon is confirmed civ.
- Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:00 pm
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Re: [Take / Day 1] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
You seem like the kind of fellow who has played mafia beforeFats Navarro wrote:So how about you offer something else. So far you have had 4 posts. Post 1 stating that you are here. Post 2 stating you don't wanna talk about socks. Post 3 was a nuh-uh, you. Post 4 was a nuh-uh, you.John Coltrane wrote:I'll be voting for Fats Navarro
I don't like that he says I'm stifling discussions since I don't want to talk about socks.
Linki - at what point is he going to play pretty notes past the ones I let out? I'd be willin to agree with you if he actually was trying to move past the "bad notes" but apparently that's not the case.
can you teach me some of your secrets plz so tht i can look like i know what i'm doing
- Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:29 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 1] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Bill Dixon is confirmed civ. 

- Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:53 am
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Re: [Take / Day 1] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Some people would be ecstatic to have as many as two (2) fingersOrnette Coleman wrote:Martians only have two fingers.
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:11 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: [Take / Day 1] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
I hope you dont throw votes at presidential candidates. You'll pribably get arrestedVince Guaraldi wrote:I dig your line of thought. I do, I do. But I'm going to throw my vote at Billy Boy Dixon at the start. That cat was the first (and for a while, the only) one of us to do something the host wanted. Not a bad thing on its own. Waving that fact in our faces in an attempt to gain favor with the host, however, is brown-nosing. Can't stand for that here. No siree.Fats Navarro wrote:Coltrane why did you dismiss a subject of discussion?
Who's down to vote this man with me?
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:29 pm
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- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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Re: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [Day 0 / AB INITIO]
I think my life would be a little more exciting with gunplay and car chases
but I have plenty of explosions for now
but I have plenty of explosions for now
- Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:43 pm
- Forum: Previous Heists
- Topic: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia [AD INFINITUM / Endgame]
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