The Syndicate

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:45 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:40 am Did Guillo just listen to something I had to say? Un-ironically the least towny thing he's done so far lol

Stop pretending knowing what's townie from me.

When you think you can meta read me, i assure you, you can't.

This is also a really towny post lol. And extremely relatable.

Not me saying we shouldn't talk about roles to have the last page be straight up role claiming and asking about roles. ChAmPiOnS

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:09 am I do kinda want to force everyone to choose recruits and think about it honestly

What's your interest in this?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:21 am I don’t see what people see in sloonei

I think he’s being intentionally dense or aloof for his own amusement I’d say it’s at worst nai and on average >rand town

I'm considering this actually. I've seen Sloonei not play as mafia, but more so stating that he's not going to play and then disappear. I've seen him low effort as town, but at the same time been curious about things. Sloonei might not be mafia, you heard it here second.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:23 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:21 am I don’t see what people see in sloonei

I think he’s being intentionally dense or aloof for his own amusement I’d say it’s at worst nai and on average >rand town

Just that the last several times he Did Nothing he was mafia

It's not impossible for him to Do Nothing as town bc he's become lazy in his retirement but it's not a good start

He's more so actively doing nothing right here, which I find less scummy than not doing anything and also not being here. On balance, I don't have a read on Sloonei.

Sure I'll join the event with the Muricans.

/in

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:40 am I am not sure I've seen a wolf as obvious as linearpoint in my life

Mac, have you landed your reads yet?

I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:21 am Seanzie is so insistent on shooting me he wants to shoot me twice.

This made me go somewhere else entirely what's wrong with me

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:35 pm I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

I probably wouldn't draft you for mafia

Thank you, I appreciate it. I wouldn't either.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:53 amDizzy slanked until pressure was put on him in the last couple of games I played with him, and he was town. In fact, I believed he slanked all the way to endgame in last year's GOC, whereupon he promptly caught the last few evildoers, was ignored by the thread, and lost. Poor Dizzy.

I feel so seen.

And I'm not even slanking this game.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:52 pm My heart tells me to work with dizzy

My brain tells me this is exactly what happened the first time he pocketed me

My other side of the brain says I’m overthinking and it’s unlikely dizzy would really use the exact same strategy as mafia twice on me

Have I been pockety towards you in this game? I don't think I have.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:35 pm I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

that's what makes you so good at it, your tone stays town, just... sadder

Lol, or fake happy.

Also, I get actual enjoyment anytime someone posts something correct about how I'm playing, thanks.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:12 pm can someone tell my why linearpoint is outed?

I've been wondering about this for a while too.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:03 pmNot really but we’re sorta viewing the game very similarly atm I think

Yeah, I think so too. I don't really take that as a bad thing though.

Town:
Alexa
Ilario
Belzy
Guillo
Sean
Nutella
Alison (think she cares about the game in a town way)
Paopan (don't know them, but surface level this just seems like town)

Jpic and Radish also seem ok.

I might go back on giving Marmot a pass today. He's not giving
I feel I should have an opinion on Creature, but I don't.
I could probably vote anyone I'm not actively town reading.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pmWhat do you think of Marmot and Seanzie?

I think Sean is town for raisins, and Marmot is underwhelming with a yikes post that Nutella pointed out earlier.

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:32 pmIf we throw a coinflip which two names would you use for that coinflip deciding today's lynch ... gth

Belzy and Belzybub

@sabie12 Do you have any reads or takes thus far?

Oh no I wasn't supposed to post because I had 69 posts and then I got baited. Damn you, Belzybub

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:40 pmThat was funny. Mine would be Dizzy and Dyslexicon then.

Or perhaps you and Axhole for real.

Scotty and Sabie are underwhelming. Why them compared to others?

Well, I did use to work as a comedian. Which I don't recommend to anyone.

I haven't seen them be topics much, and I haven't seen them be towny, so there would be a good chance there's scum there.
As for more "interesting flips" I'd say Marmot/Ender.
Also, the question is kind of meh in the first place. It's not even half way into D1 and a lot might change still.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pmWhat if i said im side eyeing radishes rn

I'd be interested to hear why. I don't really feel strongly about him. I mean, I do, but not alignment wise.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:46 pmI am more interested than just you listing some town reads, as I wonder who are your least towniest reads. Would you rather give Marmot a free pass today or pressure there?

I think it's fair to pressure Marmot. And I think he'd be a less than ideal chop if he is town here. And I think that that will be solvable in time. I'm not going to give you whatever hard commitment you want here. I want my reads to be decent, and I want to work together with other town. At the same time, I don't care all that much who gets chopped today, at least right now.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pmWhat if i said im side eyeing radishes rn

I'd be interested to hear why. I don't really feel strongly about him. I mean, I do, but not alignment wise.

Maybe im mixing radishes meta up, but his sarcastic/jokey quips here remind me of his scum game in CoV and Witcher

Plus the gambit demon claim which has scarred me enough that i am worried it’s a serious claim, even tho it was a copypasta from last year lol

I think quips are just Radish. I have my own thing that I look for in Radish (which I think he thinks is silly, cause it's based on literally one game I saw him as scum), and he's neither here nor there on that measure. I'm hoping he'll share more of his inside thoughts as we go. I actually do think he has inside thoughts though, so maybe I think he's town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:58 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:28 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pmWhat do you think of Marmot and Seanzie?

I think Sean is town for raisins, and Marmot is underwhelming with a yikes post that Nutella pointed out earlier.

I'd like to hear more than just "raisins".

Maybe later.

Thread is moving so fast nobody will notice I'm gay

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:36 pm A shot rings out!

@Marmot has died! They flip MAFIA! They reveal as:

Overachieving Student Who Replies to Quiz Questions on Discord by Uploading an External Word Document

You’re a two shot tracker. Also kind of a nerd, I guess. Anyways, twice during the game you can target a player at night at see who they visit, if anyone.

Spoiler: show

@ 112
@ alexa
@ Alison
@ Belzy
@ BoKnows
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

oh sick

Aw, Marmot <3

Who shot Marmot?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:49 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:41 pmyou're welcome

GOAT

Oh, dya. Nice job

@Marmot Congrats on your turnip spirit award. I missed the socky's. But well deserved. <3

Fucking rigged rock scissor paper

Jk jk congrats, Alexa

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:12 pm Fucking Hunger Games in here.

This is the death I was craving tbh

I'm probably not going to catch up tonight, but I have a few things I want to say.

@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.

Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alexa

^These are the town reads I care the most about.

Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.

There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pmNanda kore wa

Dizzy can you explain because that post is stunningly NAI

Well now I have egg all over my face from that. I thought Marmot wouldn't take the time to write out something like that as scum, but then I realised it was a pasta, so I retracted it.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 pm Thread is moving so fast nobody will notice I'm gay

Similarly, nobody will notice I herein confess to pulling the fire alarm in a McDonald's restaurant 4 or 5 years ago.

Devilish tbh

All these vigs in the world. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot Scotty or Mac. But also, don't listen to me. What I really would've done is just give the shot to Dya because Dya GOAT.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:22 pmI really want to like this post, so I'll stew on it.

Well, I almost wanted to tell you off for voting me, cause I think you pretty much do that every game we play, and at least I remember you doing it as scum (a lot of people who know me only partly like to do that number). So. I'm consciously trying not to get bugged down in defence, cause it usually ends up not mattering, but I would like to know if you had any actual reasons to scum read me in the first place. If you already said and I just haven't read it yet, then you don't need to explain. I'll probably iso you at some point.

This exact thing has happened before. I town read Sean and Belzy. They vote me D1. Gotta love that. Wouldn't be sad if I was vigged right here tbh. Not to be all dramatic, but also yes.

Fuck

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:27 pm literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

I've been paying attention to you as I usually do. Do you think I read you well usually?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:28 pmIt isn't exactly the same now that I look back, but it feels like a skeletal version of his read from here: viewtopic.php?p=880303#p880303

In Team Fortress he really cared about his read on me. Here he feels like he's giving a read on me to look like he's reading and sorting.

In fortress, you were the fucking D1 stupid chop. In fortress, I was high on adrenaline for Gavial existing. Also, I literally wrote "These are the reads I care about" here, because these are the reads I feel the best about. So yeah, I care. And no shit will my reasoning for reading you be similar when it's literally based on how I usually feel about you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:27 pm This exact thing has happened before. I town read Sean and Belzy. They vote me D1. Gotta love that. Wouldn't be sad if I was vigged right here tbh. Not to be all dramatic, but also yes.

What game? The only game I can think of with you me and Belzy was when you were scum and we were both town... or when you and Belzy were scum together?

It was a game on PerC. You and Belzy fought. I told you both to shut up and that you were town, so you voted me instead, cause that's just what you two do. It's fine. I don't want to have this discussion actually.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:31 pmThere have been a game that was that embarrassing, but to use past games against me they Dizzy does, he has to stop doing that. I took a long break from Mafia just to evaluate on the past.

I am not against you. I'm town reading you. You are against me.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:30 pmawkward af

yes

What are your overall reads at this point? Could you please lay them out and what worlds you're considering?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:31 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:28 pmIt isn't exactly the same now that I look back, but it feels like a skeletal version of his read from here: viewtopic.php?p=880303#p880303

In Team Fortress he really cared about his read on me. Here he feels like he's giving a read on me to look like he's reading and sorting.

In fortress, you were the fucking D1 stupid chop. In fortress, I was high on adrenaline for Gavial existing. Also, I literally wrote "These are the reads I care about" here, because these are the reads I feel the best about. So yeah, I care. And no shit will my reasoning for reading you be similar when it's literally based on how I usually feel about you.

I don't think anyone should read into the AtE of this post as townie because scum!Dizzy is very very good at AtE.

What is your point about me being chopped D1 in TFmafia? IT was a last-minute CFD so your readslist I'm bringing up here has nothing to do with that? I wasn't a highly contested person throughout the day.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't feel like you care. Your earlier read of Guillo for having "flower language" in his enterance post was bad IMO, and then these reads are bad. I'd guess most of them are TRUE, but they feel performative and they feel similar to reads you've made in other games recently, as if you're trying to fake that townie spark your TF read on me had (but failing to).

That game was a mess, is my point. It was full of vigilantes (figuratively speaking, not literal like now lol). So I felt more responsible and stressed, cause it was honestly a shit show for the one day I was alive.

You're totally right that I don't care as much now in the sense that I think this game is honestly fine enough without me. The miscalculation you're doing is concluding I'm scum because of it. Or because of anything.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:39 pm Marmot iso looks good for alison and bad for creature on a level 1

Alison town is pretty much what I get from it.

How people talked about Marmot is probably more revealing than how Marmot talked to people. So someone look into that.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:58 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:54 pm How people talked about Marmot is probably more revealing than how Marmot talked to people. So someone look into that.

You looked very bad when it comes to that, so you say that is revealing.

Leading question: Do I usually "look bad" in relation to my teammates when I'm mafia?