The Syndicate

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:21 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:19 pm Ok, I'm tracking Oddmerta.
damn lol

This one is mine. =p

No, but for real. You probably have a better grasp on the game, and can choose more wisely. I also wasn't feeling the Wilgy track myself tbh.

I also want to track scum. =p

Herm/Oddmerta sounds good to me. Yeet, yeet, yeet!

Also, there's supposed to be a 3p I guess.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:19 pmHe said he visited tutuu and saw two songs, one a mafia song.

Well, there you go.

Mac - I'm tracker because I knew who Samu visited before he said so. That was my point.

Ok, I'm tracking Oddmerta.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:17 pmi wouldnt directly say who youre going to target tonight - it's best to use a poe of 3/4 names so that the maf/3p will be thrown off

I have to say it, because I have to vote the same person that I track. That's my whole role. >_>

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:14 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:11 pm Ok, Alison. I guess.

So I'm still tracking Wilgy?
track one of the people in your POE, vote them and track 'em. Dyachei and I will cover the people you haven't voted.

I don't have a PoE of my own. =p

I heard Odd and Ted.
Bah. Maybe I'll just track Odd, because he seems to be a topic, and then people who has a better grasp on the thread can actually choose.

Does that sound ok?

I highly doubt Herm will flip town though. What he explained today looked more made up than most things I've ever seen in a mafia game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:13 pm The temptation for mafia to just avoid misyeet wagons is too great. I am not saying that it's good optimal play, I am saying that it happens all the time.

I love misyeet wagons as any alignment tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:10 pmExplain how? Nothing about Samu's role actually makes a lick of sense to me and i don't understand any of his posts.

I can't explain that. But I know for a fact that Samu visited Tutu.

I don't know if he confirmed or just implied it. I don't know why he wouldn't confirm, I've shared it, so it's not a secret. This is why Tutu thinks Samu could be roleblocker.

Ok, Alison. I guess.

So I'm still tracking Wilgy?

I fake claimed tracker because I'm psychic, so I would be able to guess who people visit anyway, and also I just really, really wanted to get Tim yeeted. That was my whole life goal. This is my story.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:05 pmDyslexicon was in the POE before the claim. He only has the claim going for him. The claim hasn't been tested and Dyslexicon hasn't been cleared through any other means.

I mean, if Samu confirms that he visited Tutu, my claim is tested. Or I track someone who will definitely visit someone this night as well and share who they visit before they do. Meh. I'm town in your face.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:03 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:01 pm I slightly want to Track Alison =p
y tho

I gave you a good POE

are you this paranoid of me when there is strong mech evidence that I'm not 3P or mafia and there are actual people with high scum equity waiting to be tracked

Who has the hight scum equity?

I have little idea about what's going on in general. It just strikes me that it's very weird to have a cop that can info dump and other roles like watcher who can't. I also think it makes somewhat sense for town to have different x-shot abilities like tracking and watching like we've seen and not have a cop at all. Your role seems to be the odd one out in a way. I don't know what mech evidence you're referring to.

I slightly want to Track Alison =p

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:47 pm Alison, why do you think you can claim results as a cop, while Hally, the watcher, couldn't?
No clue. Here are some possibilities.

1) Roles are given roleclaim restrictions more or less at random and it's not AI. For instance, Mac has heavily implied that his role is weaker than a tracker, but both trackers are able to claim and do whatever they want. Some song investigatives are free to claim (PC) while others aren't (Samusamu). They can't all be scum, so maybe it's just random or arranged in an undecipherable pattern.

2) The power of my role is balanced out by the unbelievability of the fact that I don't have a roleclaim restriction if I claim. (We have some evidence of Sloonei putting in roles that contain ways to make someone look bad even if they are town, like nanook being incentivized to put himself in a situation where he can be tracked to the kill.)

3) Sloonei has 500 IQ and has painstakingly calculated which roles can be allowed to infodump/roleclaim without breaking the game, and mine is not one of them but Hally's is. I'm sure there will be some people who will come in and tell you that Watcher is a stronger role than Cop that can't catch 3P in a closed setup, for instance.

4) Maybe Sloonei thought the fact that mafia are told who I check each night is enough of a balance to it?

1. Meh

2. Nah

3. Nah (but Sloonei goat)

4. I didn't even know they did. That's weird lol.

HMMMMMMMMM

Alison, why do you think you can claim results as a cop, while Hally, the watcher, couldn't?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:58 pm hould i track or not because i have a limited number of them

Same.

But I think especially if Herm is roleblocker, it's good to use. Otherwise, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I guess make your own decision, but better to use it before you are dedded. =p

Samusamu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:05 pmAnd what can i use? If i said it in spanish does it lose the connotation? Okey seriously, whay can i use?

Eliminate is common.

I use yeet. Because it's funny. It's king of meme-y, but can also apparently mean to throw something away with great force or something like that.

My track is on Wilgy. @ me if it should change.

The real concern I'm having is that I haven't done any meaningful work today, yet am going to have to present a full plan for a project grounded in science I haven't yet read.

I should probably get to that soon.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:15 pm we're kind of running out of poe? maybe wilgy again?

I guess. Not very hopeful it's him though.

I'll take suggestions from whoever. The track will just work as insurance now, since it's already announced. Putting my vote on Wilgy in the meantime.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:09 pm @Dyslexicon prob time to start thinking about who to target with your vote?

Yeah, any ideas? I'm assuming Herm will flip mafia, so tracking will be copping at that point. /baring unknowns.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 pm I'm not sure I understand what the point is of giving a town player whose song is on an album the information that the album contains no wolf songs. What is a random townie supposed to do with that information? Or am I misunderstanding?

It would be super useful if it was true. We just all claim what album we belong to, and then pick off scum. I'm sure it's not completely asymmetrical, there's probably like 3 in each album or something. However, we should not do that, since narrowing down songs might not be a good idea. And Herm is absolutely not telling the truth here. It makes no sense what so ever that you would randomly notify one, but just one, person, and that will count as an action. That's so far fetched I can't even. So that's a lie created to explain away Dya's track. Mind you that Herm later votes Dya and says he thinks Dya is lying about the track. But you know...

I'm just waiting for the flip at this point. We have a lot of town power still to go around, so we should wrap up the mafia pretty quickly. Don't know about the dreaded 3p.

Flip now tbh tbh

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:41 pm
Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm 99% of the games I play have had a closed setup, and I have seen all kinds of roles imaginable.

The things bastard from my POV is a Firefighter with no Arsonist, or a Cop who scans opposite.
so for u

insane cop = bastard
godfather = not bastard

ergo

cop who peeks green on mafia = bastard
cop who peeks green on mafia = not bastard

Yes? =p

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:33 pmemphasis on in a closed game

Yeah, I read that. I still think it's normal. But still only speculation.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 pm final paranoia vent:

is sloonei the type of person to put godfathers in a closed game? most ppl would consider that bastard but not everyone seems to think its bastard and i dont rly know sloonei

Godfather is not bastard, it's pretty normal to me at least. /shrug

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:30 pmWe are running out of a lynch pool lol.

This I believe you on. =p

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:20 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am Rip Wilgy/Tim/Dizzy triangle tbh tbh
Boquise?

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pmI'm unfamiliar with alternate names on this forum. I assume you're LC?

I have been known to be called Dizzy on occasion.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 pmWasn't Tim lynched because DrWIlgy/Tim had conflicting info?

More correct to say that Tim/me had conflict info. You should probably tunnel me.

But it would also be better to just not song claim maybe. But ok. =p

Why would anyone be notified, but like only one randomized person? What good does that do? Just to make night actions even harder to resolve?

That is a clear nope from me.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:31 amI think he is telling the truth

I'll wait and see.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:28 am Yes, but it is randomized. So only one townie on an album gets notified of the search.

Lol.

I commend you trying, but like no. =p

Spf for last scum. I ship it.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 4] tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:49 am36 hours

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:49 am36 hours

Do we have to wait two days for Herm to flip?

Rip Wilgy/Tim/Dizzy triangle tbh tbh

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:55 amits him because nobody expected a protective role to get notified of getting roleblocked

like that wasnt part of the plan. thats what sealed his doom. he expected me to not report anything, and then he gets away with his claim

tbf idk how u ever expect something like that, at least its the first time im seeing it

Oh. Right. You make a valid point. Well, I definitely take a 2/2 on tracking this night.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:26 am Polls are in the op

Thanks. Also lol, confirmed scum actually split in the votes so never mind. =p

We haven't saved the polls? Who all voted Nutella? I bet all or almost all scum were on it tbh

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:57 am Dizzy i was roleblocked last night didnt u see lol

U outed samu as the mafia roleblocker

I saw that, but I don't know if it's Samu. I mean, Samu would know I tracked him, right? It was announced in the night, so kind of not the smartest move to go ahead and block anyway? There could've been other players targeting you. I don't know. Also possible Samu and Herm didn't pay attention to my track, but that seems unlikely tbh.

Where is that claim list? I should copy it to my notepad tbh =p

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:36 am
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:35 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:33 am If I were ascetic, Tim's visit would still show up in results, my action just goes through
What is your role btw?
ascetic rogue

GOTTEM!

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:33 am If I were ascetic, Tim's visit would still show up in results, my action just goes through

Good point. I forgot about that. Well, mafia has a roleblocker, isn't that both the theory and sort of confirmed through song things? Maybe Herm will flip roleblocker.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:28 amI said something before.

Then i can see two things. Mafia also can track players to have an alibi, dizzy track on me is a easy one announced since yesterday, so isnt that difficult.

But the way he said it isnt really scummy to me.

A dizzy lynch for me will be based more in poe reasons taking into acount that he track, not viceversa.

Eh, sure I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:26 amHmm I think so too. I missed a lot in D3. Clearly mac's post feels like a summary and help me procrastinate.

Ok, well that's fair. I've missed most of the game. I was in another game until D3 and focused on that one. Couldn't keep up with all of this. On D3 I was kind of dragged in because I claimed and had a track result from N1 (Ted visited Tim) that conflicted with Tim's claim of a roleblock on Ted. So that was kind of a whole ordeal. Still don't know what happened, cause Tim did for sure put a roleblock on Ted, but Ted still visited Tim, this I know for sure. I don't have a result from N2. N3 result is Samu visited Tutu.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:22 am Have ted some confirmation or green check?

Ted having unblockable action stock is increasing in value

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:25 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:24 am
Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:22 amI said something before, dunno if i can say more.
You can't claim who you targeted?
My track result is that you visited Tutu at least.
Last night?

Yeah

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