The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

Dude, it's nothing personal. Sorry if you're town, but I've managed to live despite all odds here (Thanks Golden <3 ) so i gotta try.

I don't think you have a real chance to chop me here, sorry

Me trying not be a hypocrite. Harder than you'd think

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:21 pmAre we 100% certain that the Mod Squad is fully dead?

Yes.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:20 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm If you guys chop Dizzy instead of SVS here and he's town this game will go down in the annals of mafia history

-t

Wow that's harsh. Like I've said like 19 skazillion times, I'm not playing for the town, I'm playing for me. Once I said what I had to find, there was no chance I would win so at least I could stay alive.

But going down in Mafia History sounds like fun!

Guys.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:18 pmIt was you and Golden and you should know better than CFD an unknown slot over a pretty much confirmed anti-town one.

I do hold you to higher standards than everyone else, i do.

And Falcon and Ender and Rondo.

That is your problem, and unfair.

You're clearly not holding yourself to the same standard.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:17 pm If you guys chop Dizzy instead of SVS here and he's town this game will go down in the annals of mafia history

-t

Only game of champs, bb

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:14 pm If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

Why should i give you the chance you didnt give Scotty by CFD him instead of chopping out SvS.

Touche tbh. But that wasn't just me.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:31 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:26 pm Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

This comes after I put your vote to 3, it sounds like someone who knows its lylo and wants to win

No?

If I'm voted over SVS here, it will be poetic justice. But also can we like not

Bruv

Let's just kill SVS and go from there. PC is right about that.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:12 pm I think we think about this after SVS flip. There being possible tools tomorrow is a good point I forgot to consider. I'm thinking about this differently now. Maybe I can be an asset and not a problem.

I probably should've though this all the time tbh

I think we think about this after SVS flip. There being possible tools tomorrow is a good point I forgot to consider. I'm thinking about this differently now. Maybe I can be an asset and not a problem.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:38 pm Oh yes - an argument for "slowing down" the game by not having Guillo kill people is that Ender gets to give out more items. Those items might just mechanically solve the game. 2 guns, 1 bomb, 1 pseudo-peek that ended up an alignment peek, so far @Dyslexicon

-t

This is a much better point at least. I want to be top priority for any potential investigation tool for tomorrow.

Unless the game just ends here and we are all fools. Again.

There's no point in continuing this conversation.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:31 pm So since i know you dont throw games as town, since i know you la creme de la creme in mafia, since i know that you are a very smart player who knows better, my only conclusion is that you are just trying to survive, to buy time.

Do you honestly, hand to heart, not see the paradox here?

Have it your way.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:29 pmDyslexicon. What you are doing is LAMIST at its finrst because no town that is not a game thrower is gonna offer up to get killed to “clear themselves” at lylo or close to it.

Im sorry mate but it is what it is.

The whole point is that it is even worse if I stick around and you all use MORE time mischopping me. I'm not offering myself up willingly because it's fun or a good idea. Both options are bad. And it is exactly because it's may be close to lylo that I'm doing it.

So, it's like this

Guillo and PC, and also others in the game - Dizzy is for sure wolf or likely wolf - Me trying to town clear myself - ignored? - I think it's a detriment if I'm staying around to use up another round so I offer to get cleared up - "wow why do you want to get cleared up that's so wolfy lol"

I'm not the one creating this situation, at least I'm trying my best not to. So I'm at an impasse here.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:03 pmDyslexicon is the kind of player that questions why someone townreads him, i have not seen even once him questioning golden and go deep into that here.
And AtEing as town, i have not seen him do that eithet. He is very collected.

Calmly, not one of these premises are true. You don't know me at all, Guillo. It is very clear.

I town read Golden because it's very easy for me to read his mind frame as we have similar styles and view how to play in the same way.

There was another game where i also tunneled him and he was town, the difference is that in that game he laughed it off and ignored me.
Dyslexicon knows im in my town meta, or should know, here he has AtEd, mock me, gaslighted me (even though he apologized later), and throw shade at me from time to time.

This is not town Dyslexicon as far as my collected info is concerned and my few memories i still retain about him.

You are just wrong.

I'm losing my patience and I will leave and come back

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:26 pmIf the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it may be inherited by a third party, if they exist. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game.

@Guillotine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Read. The. Fucking. Game.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:44 pmWhat if you have an action up your sleeve that would not only prevent me from proving my action but also speed up your win condition.

Why would you as town, knowing that we might be at lylo, offer so easily to get killed by me?

Why was this not your worry on other days? I have no fucking actions.

I have explained this, and I have also town cased myself, if you would bother to read the game. I'm not the problem here.

Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol

It's probably because we're all town lol

-t

Wouldn't be the first time.

Ender should vote SVS. We chop SVS and go from there.

Guillo, you have the open option to self vote and shoot me in the night, proving both yourself and me. Enjoy.

I need some food.

This is fucking sad lol

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pmEveryone keeps saying this.

But is it town indicative? What is outside guillos wolfrange?

I think I've felt something town indicative, which is real suspicion. It's been a long time since I've played with Guillo. I think as wolf they tend to tunnel other wolves. The amount of derping here also doesn't feel wolf indicative to me

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

I do not quite know what you're talking about, but do you not want a chance to shoot me in the night instead and prove your claim as well?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:34 pm Guillo is so effing wolfy I cannot understand why everyone just doesn’t agree.

This is just blatant flip town into town behaviour.

I am very sorry to say, that this is not wolf indicative for Guillo. I'm trying to play around it.

@EnderWiggin Please vote SVS

And this is why we don't win if we use a round to mischop me if there's two mafia left

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:30 pmI feel like we should just kill you today now

That's a definite no.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:28 pmMayhaps
Svs did have a vest so maybe that applies to lost wolf?

I forgot about this. That may actually be the case tbh. Watch this whole kamikaze nonsense to be totally irrelevant and game is just over with SVS flipping

I don't fucking know. Kill SVS. Hope for no crazy shit happening.

I still vote I'm flipped, cause it only takes a few being wrong, and if PC and/or Guillo is town, I don't fancy being around. I don't know how strategically sound that is and I wish it wasn't needed, but it feels needed. I don't know what more I can do

@Guillotine Do you want to vote me?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:26 pm The solve should be, imo

SVS -> Ender/Guillo

Not PC?

PCs claim involved specific language that mirrored my own role that has always made me feel good about them.

This is important to me. Where?

Don't worry. If the game continues, for those who make it to next day, there will be an event that kills 10 of the 6-7 players.

I can feel myself not being helpful. I've tried to clear myself. I was softing VT with powers different to Kate D1. I don't know what to do here

I felt really mighty last day, and this day has been shit tbh

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:09 pmTo be honest I have been entirely operating under the assumption that flipping svs today doesnt lose town the game but we dont know that. I do worry that svs is a non harmful 3p to have around and that chopping her ends up being game ending for town. But I dont feel safe enough to go anywhere else

Not chopping SVS last day was an extremely bad play and I regret it so much. But I agree, mischopping today is way worse than chopping SVS

I kind of just don't want to make any decisions

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:07 pmFair enough. I was pretty certain nutella was town by eod 1 but I understand the feeling of *squints eyes*

It was like super early, and Nut wasn't towny yet imo. But to be fair, the only person seeing the same was Marmot so lol. Not that it's necessarily a point in Ender's favor.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:49 pm I do agree with dizzy that my 1 point of contention with PC is that tbh... I kinda feel like theyve just been a town siding 3p and their role seems weird to have as town, which just reinforces that 3p idea for me
But because I feel they have been town siding I've been happy to let them do their thing
But to test guillo and pop pc vest in case we need it popped for another day if the game doesnt end over night seems ideal to me (assuming the worst doesnt happen and they both lie and cover for the other person)

I think they can be lost wolf and that's why they feel this way. I just think that would fit.

I'm very much not sure.

I'm kind of frozen here tbh. So I think just chop SVS and hope it doesn't lose us the game. If me sticking around will be game losing, I would much rather try to coordinate not sticking around as bait.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:21 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:51 pm That's two wolves caught AND Nutella is obvious town so I'm sheeping Nut's vote.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

3 wolves caught and I haven't even had lunch yet.

What if I was right D1 and this was a very off beat read on Nut

Wdym? Nutella was my top town by day 2 as well

This was not day 2, it was at the very start of the game. I was looking at notes from D1, cause I wolf read Ender for it at first, but I changed the read and it never came back. It's probably not worth much rn, but I'm in thunk mode

Maybe SVS is mafia and lost wolf even and this is pointless

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:02 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:47 pm anyway, I'll repeat what I said to rondo. you literally cannot kill us now unless you either wait until LYLO or you get guillo to pop our vest tonight. and again, if that's your choice, everyone else better stack on SVS to make sure she dies while two of us vote guillo

What is helpful to town about this post, just to remind us that we can't chop you? When would we know when LYLO is?

it was a direct reply to you arguing for everyone else to pivot and focus on chopping us instead

not actually being able to chop us on the first try seems like pertinent information. relevant data, you might say

rondo says nanook told him that lylo is silent but I'm not sure I believe it in a game where half of town has a vote vig. but ok sure, let's assume it is silent:

that just means again, you have to pursue option 2 in order to kill us, and you are instead arguing that guillo should self-vote and just shoot you, so what is even the point of your case? are we scum or not? if we are, why are you falling on your sword and specifically preventing us from having our vest popped? you cannot simultaneously think we're LAWK WOLF and then go out of your way to make it impossible to deal with the LAWK WOLF

that path ONLY makes sense if you are covering for a scum partner to go to end game with an arranged mischop

I didn't argue that. I say we chop SVS, and it's towns decision whether to follow my theory or not. If SVS is wolf instead of 3p for example, things change.

I don't know if you are wolf or not, but it seems like the most likely option to me. You've been pushing a bad PoE all day, and this day has felt particularly wrong.

I think you are being disingenuous. I have never said you are lock wolf. You are the one who's been calling people outed wolves.

I also don't know how much time we have, which is exactly why I'm trying to buy it. Right now I'm seeing everyone with me in their PoE, and that will ensure us a loss, if we're going to use a round just to mischop me. That is why I'm falling on my sword. It's not because I want to, it's because I feel I have to. As I said, I think the world is that there is one 3p and one (lost) wolf left. There are worlds we probably always lose to, like two wolves and multiple kill power left.

But no, I'm not happy. It's an impossible situation to be put in as town, cause I'm literally a burden if I can't clear myself. I have tried to clear myself, and am trying that.

There are some worlds we never win to

Outside SVS, PC > Ender is my PoE.

Rondo and Sloonei's interaction and reaction to PC today is very towny