The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:48 pm Dizzy could conceivably be trying to give MR the ilario treatment (blind, unfailing pocket per Fleabag).

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:25 pm @JaggedJimmyJay Disregarding you not being interested in "defence". If you want a sure way to read me correctly, here you go. It's literally the same shit as what happened the very last game I played: I literally cannot be lethargic as mafia. It doesn't happen. I'm super high strung and obsessive as mafia, it's just compulsive. Being disconnected and lethargic is only something that happens to me when I'm town. As mafia I'm hyperconnected to the game, not the other way around.

Yeah, I think Jay's theory is 0/2.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:31 pm @c4e5g3d5 Tell us who to chop please

People are calling Nook town for reasons I don't get
Wilgy is 3-posting

Yeah.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:31 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:30 pm I don't actually believe MR is scum either so. I don't really get what the case is, unless it's only based on MR/Dizzy fits together, cause I can see how that is true. But also like, no duh.

We just have that sort of chemistry.

Which is heart warming tbh

@c4e5g3d5 Tell us who to chop please

I don't actually believe MR is scum either so. I don't really get what the case is, unless it's only based on MR/Dizzy fits together, cause I can see how that is true. But also like, no duh.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:21 pm but i mean, it’s possible he could do it because yolo

his “you should have known alison was trolling” was pretty flimsy because like, it’s alison and i’ve never seen her troll before this game lol

Just from an academic standpoint: The mistake here is assuming I would not have a flimsy reason as town. I probably have almost nothing but flimsy reasons to think anything as town

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:32 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:20 pm Hally I town read for my own reasons.

what are the reasons?

Individual posts that I think are very much from town perspective, and many of them. I've already mentioned the thing about "It's only a disaster if you and Mac are town". It's quite well crafted if you are mafia, so if you are, good job. But I decided you are not. However you/Wilgy is my irrelevant tinfoil lol.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:56 pm I can't decide whether everyone pairing me/Dizzy means we're both town or you're all doing well enough and are just misfiring on one of your options.

I kind of want it to be the former as an eff you to everyone.

This is so relatable lol
And makes me such a simpleton

So I could guess a team of MR/Mac right now. But it's worth as much or probably even less than Jimmay's guess.

@JaggedJimmyJay Disregarding you not being interested in "defence". If you want a sure way to read me correctly, here you go. It's literally the same shit as what happened the very last game I played: I literally cannot be lethargic as mafia. It doesn't happen. I'm super high strung and obsessive as mafia, it's just compulsive. Being disconnected and lethargic is only something that happens to me when I'm town. As mafia I'm hyperconnected to the game, not the other way around.

This game just feels like a guessing game to me, and makes me feel that is what mafia is. You made all this effort just to come to a wrong conclusion. I came to a wrong conclusion in regards to Alison, and even though I could instinctively tell, I didn't do anything about it.

I'm doing the best I can with how I feel right now, and I realise that it isn't very good. I don't know what else to say.

I have tinfoils that are completely irrelevant.

I started to read D1 from scratch, but it got super boring quickly. However, probably the only real thought I has was that Nanook had a pretty towny opening there. And later now he points out the same thing. His frustration and self vote stuff is maybe a bit icky, I don't know. It's a tempting thing to do ig. Ruminating a bit on it, I think Nanook might be town. I feel like I'm just guessing, same as everyone else. Which is demotivating.

I'm probably just going to keep town reading Hally/Jay/c4.
Mac is somehow in his own category, but I would just guess he's town because vibes. However, I never became clear about if he scum read Hally or town read Hally when he had his fight with Jay. Cause it was like "Jay and Hally are the mafia" and then he answered to me that Hally was derp cleared town. And I didn't get any of it. A not to whoever cares.
Hally I town read for my own reasons.
c4 I town read much for the reasons Hally stated here.
I have no energy to do anything other than town read Jay, and it's very likely correct.

If I take out Nanook, NAA/Wilgy/MR is probably my pool.
I haven't really considered my teammate MR a lot. If you all say he's mafia, cool. I hope it's right for the game state.
Wilgy and NAA exist.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

I will quote all the posts Mac mentioned a moment ago, but I want to highlight this one especially.

After Mac and I rip each other's heads off and Dizzy eventually settles into the town/town read, the first suspect to emerge as an alternative is... Hally? What?

No. I had Hally/Nanook as my theory going into the day. Something I thought of during the night, ignited by what I thought was Hally playing it up a bit too much around Alison's flip. It seems it was just as silly as whatever you and Mac are doing right here though. I don't believe that anymore. Anyway, if there's a chance Hally is scum, my first move will be to test out that theory and go with it. I did that, and it didn't hold up. I do have a bias for going for who I think are the biggest threats if they are mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:13 am Hally is townreading Dyslexicon because Dyslexicon is pushing her and "that is what Dyslexicon would do if they were town", but like actually let's be real. Hally is actually bleedingly obvious town and town Dyslexicon would have that read and not be pushing her lol. Hally is just levelling herself out of the easier read.

Also noting Dyslexicon isn't even voting her, so Hally is reading Dizzy town for pushing her even though Dizzy isn't even pushing her really.

I'm town reading Hally.

What's the vibe tell?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:28 pm am i going to have to do an interactive chart for the whole damned game

I was too late to stop you

Actually, I change my mind and Nook is probably town. So that just makes things worse.

peepeepoopoo

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:45 am Everyone.

I have once again used the restroom.

This time it was less exhilarating. I believe I'm becoming used to this phenomena.

The game is solved, and you should vote one of me and MR.

Good effort, Jimmay.

I'm home now. I'll make dinner and eat some, and then I'll sit down and try to concentrate around this game. Maybe I also can come up with something plausible, yet often wrong.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:15 am Let's vote Dizzy first.

I almost said the same about you lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:21 am @Dyslexicon get in here and get spanked bb

Poor Alison

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:00 am I feel like the game is solved. If anyone wants to claw me back down from the clouds, please do. But just know that right now at 4:00 AM that’s how I feel.

Is it me and MR?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:52 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:27 am I am now voting for dyslexicon look at me go

You’re doing great, sweetie

Hi you’re mafia

Sure. You’ve spent time on the game, you know best

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:27 am I am now voting for dyslexicon look at me go

You’re doing great, sweetie

Who's moaning the most about not being town read btw? I think I'm up there

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:24 pm "He doesn't care" and "he seems flat" are just awful ways to read me

I actually think it's a decent way to read you. I sense you caring about expressing your reads when you are town.

....and you have a mediocre read on me, and read me wrong for almost exactly this reason last time, iirc?

I was wrong on one game we played on MU a while back.

In any case, my vote is still worth 1 so

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:24 pm "He doesn't care" and "he seems flat" are just awful ways to read me

I actually think it's a decent way to read you. I sense you caring about expressing your reads when you are town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:17 pm I'm playing in a subdued version of my 2015ish rage meta. Nobody recognizes it anymore I guess.

Rest assured though there was a time when I didn't write every post I make like a Nice Calm Boy. I might need to play with more animation like this if I am going to have fun (jury is still out, but I'm trying).

Is ok, just confused yeah. I'm clearly confusing people as well. Guess I hate being town almost as much as I hate being mafia rn, so specchat for me in the near future =p

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:04 pm No. I think Radish is town. I'm the Radish friend.

so who are the wolves?

Nanook is probably one at least

MR is quite towny here actually.

I'm a little bit tired of Jimmay saying "Do stuff, solve the game, I can only read you by that", cause I don't really think that's true.
I had half the thought that I've only really seen Jimmay solve patiently with PoE and wanting to hear people out even if he suspects them, so this smack smack bang is a change of pace. This is not really an accusation, but

No. I think Radish is town. I'm the Radish friend.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm Anyway I just mainly like people talking about me.


If you want to know why I'm not a wolf here it's (a) I've not tried harder to (fake) solve and (b) my general comfort level talking directly to people (instead of around/about them) and (c) I've not made a TMI slip (which I do at least once per wolf rand).

TMI that you're not wolf counts as TMI.

Gottem

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:40 pmOh. Okay.

Read Dizzy's second and third posts of the day. I thought it was too obvious and wanted him to be explicit about it in either direction.

No.

aLiEn ShApEsHiFtErS

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:37 pm If anyone else wants to comment on scum Radish feel free.

I already did. But you're too wrapped up in your mafia rand to flirt with me >: (

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:32 pm Jay, what do you expect when you look for scum Radish?

(I promise not to be offended by anything you say.)

Naughty, naughty badness.

Sure, let's say MR/Nook. Which I think would make NAA's reads not trash, which is nice.

Game wise, I totally agree that the Alison chop was bad. And I even felt it was bad as I left the thread and just watched while going elsewhere. It was kind of like watching a car crash. LOL didn't even remember this was a car game, so it was exactly like that.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:24 pm we need more shitposts tbh

that’s the real problem

Most of my posts have been pretty shitty

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:21 pm if there’s anything i can do to make the game more fun for you lmk

Flip a mafia =p

It's complicated.
It's bad timing now, cause I've been out all day and about to go to sleep.

I'm sure you have some world view post or something like that, cause that may help.
Or just make it easier again.

I'm going easy route you/c4/jay town, I guess.
I could be there on Mac if you all agree-ish.
Not sure. His sorry for existing attitude was maybe towny for him. If real lol. But sure.

So.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:18 pm man idk what’s gotten into you

Yeah... sorry

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:15 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:09 pm But I love the gotcha questions. Gotta keep me on my toes!

lol

it’s not a gotcha

Ok, gotcha

But I love the gotcha questions. Gotta keep me on my toes!

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:06 pm when did you start trusting me more than jay?

A while ago actually.

When you said the thing about it being a disaster if me/Mac were both town, tipped it back for me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:34 pm Probing NAA for explanations makes about as much sense as pushing Radishes to make relevant posts on Day 1.

It has the appearance of a genuine motion, but it has very little promise given the player being probed.

Not to stomp on your stomp, but I almost asked NAA about it myself, but then I remembered it was futile.

Trying not hard enough to make it about this, but why does everyone say I'm "scummy". I'm so absurdly out of my scum range this game in my very humble opinion.

I might be trash, but I'm not scummy.

Probably not relevant to most, just another point of confusion for me.

Can't read the game again before tomorrow night to get "towny" again though.

So if people are dying to end the day before that, I'd follow Hally on whatever they choose. But I'd rather have the full time.

NAA having trash reads, but it's NAI probably.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:34 pm honestly though i wouldn’t even be that surprised if dizzy is a wolf but it’s kinda impossible to get there when half the game is not really playing so i feel like i almost have to trust him

You can vote me.