The Syndicate

Good luck, all!

This felt kind of pointless, but oh well. =P

See you all in a game from D0 next time ^^

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:25 pmWhat don't you like about Jack?

I think he knows I'm not scum, or at least that I'm not green team scum.

Right. I'm ready to be lynched. I think Jack and Funnygirl are the two reactions I've seen to me/creature that makes the least sense or stands out the most. You can look at that in retrospect though. Good luck, guys.

LC looks actively town to me. And I'm guessing Sloonmeister and Mac are probably town too.

LC feels like LC feels when LC is town, to me.

These two are the strongest outtakes from what I read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 11:52 pmIt's bothering me that DDL has written off Dizzy as unlynchable. Reeks of reverse TMI like DDL is Ra's and Dizzy is the one he needs to not be lynched. But generally I townread DDL. DDL being "weird" could mean "DDL is the sker." He just seems oddly confident of things but at least one of those things (town Nutella) turned out to be false. He's also softing...something. Should I just townread him for that? That's lazy but shit Syndicaters rarely even falseclaim or falsehint.

I don't like this stuff. I don't get it either really. Can you soft stuff in this game. I can be soft. =P

Does anyone follow this?

Day is ending in 12+ hours right?

I'm going to bed. Good night.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:29 pm This day feels very lazy. I haven’t done much to fix that. I will soon.

I mean, I would say this - So I'm fine being the lynch of the day. Rather that before I get invested in the game. It doesn't feel like my game. But I would encourage something more than loose assumptions about such and such being a specific role.

Also, I really don't mean to be lazy myself. But I do not have a good grasp on this game, and I would think it's pretty obvious why. I haven't even seen all the players in this game post. So I have what I have.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:25 pm Nobody around?

Hello

Nobody around?

Does Jack usually not vote before late in the day?

Wait. Actually. LC, if you think I played as outed scum, why would you NOT vote me? o.o

Long con is probably town. That's an actual read haha

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 6:33 pm I was not aware of Diz playing an outed baddie. Ok. At least a lynch will prove it? I dunno, is it better to lynch a Civ?

Wtf. This is why the assumptions don't help. This is dumb.

And I didn't fully catch up cause I got carried away.

All the assumptions about me are funny. I come in to the game and I understand Creature was suspicious and that's fine. But I don't know what you are expecting of me as town. If I'm being a distraction I'm totally ok being lynched. I only just came into the game, haven't read mostly any of it, so it's not like I feel I have 1) feelings of investment and 2) clear perspectives.

So here's what I see. The red team have all been lynched, and the green team is still alive, and it could be anywhere from one to three. None of the players lynching red team are cleared from that. I know I'm town, lots of people voting me, mostly for Creature replacing out.

So what I would suggest looking at is 1) has anyone changed in activity/pushing from when they were hunting red team?
2) I don't really think all the really specific assumptions and theories about "x is y role" are very helpful. Maybe that's a preference thing. I'd rather just focus on scum/not scum myself.

Sloonei is being a bit cold and dismissive.

Mac is defending me. Don't know why. But I also don't find it suspicious. Doesn't feel like something scum would have to do.

I actually like funnygirl's reaction to me the least. Being fine to lynch me for "not being townie" without explaining that. But not voting me herself. Endorsing it and painting me scum is just as effective when almost everyone is ok with lynching me. So I don't like that.

I think I still like how DDL treated me when I first came in. It looks like he is hunting green team specifically, so probably not green team himself.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 6:19 pm Well for one, he is really playing the outed baddie who doesn't give a damn.

I do? That is a wrong reading.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 5:35 pm I don't have a policy against lynching a replacement right away. Sorry Diz. [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

That's fine. But what's your reason?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 5:02 pmIt means I don't think piling up votes on Dizzy will cause him to be lynched.

Oh lol. It will. Pile them on. =P

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 4:38 pm yeah, dyslexicon doesn't look townie, but a rule for me is to not lynch someone the first day they arrive, so i'm not gonna join that wagon

still think ddl is wolfy though. think that guy's gotta go. even his sod d4 play was sketchy

Can you expand how I "don't look townie" in your own words?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 4:05 pm I could vote Dizzy but I doubt if I can lynch Dizzy.

What does this mean?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 2:28 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:19 pm I don't mind lynching Colin, probably more for inactivity. Imo saying "I can turn into scum" if you are town is anti-town though, as in not playing to your wincon. But maybe that's just me. It's probably above average to lynch someone who's being inactive given the no kills.

I don't know much about DDL in general. He's around.
[VOTE:
Colin] aubergine

Point to where I said that please?

Lol you didn't, but that's how some interpreted it.

Voted nut =P

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:16 pmboth

Mk.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:14 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:02 pm Looks like we can lynch nutella again

Time travel.

When you said you were easy to read as town, does that apply to multiball as well? =P

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:08 pmNight 1 had a failed kill. Night 2 had the same player targeted for two nightkills.

We would probably need to identify three inactives for the theory that no one submitted a kill (one serial killer, two mafia). I don’t think that’s fun and I think it’s more likely that two kills were simply prevented somehow anyway.

Right. I still don't remember how many ways kills can be prevented this game. I would think 1 prevented kill and 1 missing kill would be likely. But literally, I have no idea so yeah

Are you voting me or are you voting creature btw?

Sprit - Who do you want dedded?

Looks like we can lynch nutella again

Actually, a good reason to not lynch an inactive is that if they are scum and didn't even perform a night action (not even playing the game) then they are not really an active threat as long as they are gone. Also it's kind of boring.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:49 pmSo you favor the “inactive scum and serial killer” theory?

Seems likely to me since there was no kill. I mean, I don't think ALL the scum left are inactive, don't even know if that is possible (I can't count), but it's above average chance that an inactive is scum. But what do you think? Also, have you had the normal/expected amounts of NKs on other nights?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:32 pmWhy?

Cause he wasn't around N3, and so I think that's above average chance to hit scum. Pretty much the most I feel I have to go on.

[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Colin was around N3 though.

I don't mind lynching Colin, probably more for inactivity. Imo saying "I can turn into scum" if you are town is anti-town though, as in not playing to your wincon. But maybe that's just me. It's probably above average to lynch someone who's being inactive given the no kills.

I don't know much about DDL in general. He's around.
[VOTE:
Colin] aubergine

Is the case on Colin that he might be Sara and turned scum, plus general low participation?

And the case on DDL is more that "he's weird"? Can this be expanded upon?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:55 am It would also be funny if Colin was like "I'm going to soft Sara and join the mafia" and then Mac was like "Looks like Colin is Sara" and then Dys was like "Dear DIary, I couldn't find Sara but then the town up and told me who she is."

Dear diary. Nobody understands me. I think I'm getting picked at, but I can't tell mom and dad.

A wilgy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:02 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Hi, Sloonmeister

Anyway, I'll see you all later. ^^

I'm even more amused.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:42 amIf I was scum making that argument, I wouldn't even feel bad.

I don't think it's fair that there are supposedly arguments that townies are allowed to make to catch scum but scum can't pretend to make to mislynch town.

You know, I actually fully agree with this. It would be a cheap argument, but no reason why you couldn't use it. Also, since it's still multiball you wouldn't even know if I was town or not anyways. So no worries.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:41 am Well if you are town reading me here I guess you can so no argument lmao.

I feel ok about you from interaction. Maybe it's just because you've talked the most to me lol. Idk, you seem ok to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:41 am You ... reckon you can read me?

I don't remember if I've seen your scum play. But I remember you as town. Should I not be able to have a read on you, is that what you're saying? =P

And I missed Nut too. </3

Wait, Mac used to have a dragon avatar right? I think I'm ok with Mac.

What if I'm just town and creature replaced out for whatever personal reason? That would be wild, huh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:36 am What if Creature replaced out because speedchuck was his partner and he was giving up and that's why Dizzy finds this whole thing so amusing?

Aw, I missed speed? He is one of the players I do have a handle on.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:34 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:32 am Sloonei - None of the players who are around and posting a lot right now are someone I feel I can read easily. Since you asked about my impressions.

Why not? Just because of who they are as people?

From experience. I have a few people on this site that I have more of a handle of and have been able to tell town from scum before. You are not those people. I guess I have more of handle of you and Jack as players, but I don't believe you are easy to read. I've played many games with Epi, but can't say I don't know how to read him.

Sloonei - None of the players who are around and posting a lot right now are someone I feel I can read easily. Since you asked about my impressions.