The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:30 pm

Invictius wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:28 pm Great game guys, thank you for hosting MacDougall.

Good solo effort hk after we died!

Nicely done keeping your deepest teammate clean in your posts.

Same to you, that factored in. =p

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:21 pm RIP

Sorry =(

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:11 pm HK, great job in seeming very different from other scum games I've seen you in too!

thanks Dizzy, that means a lot to me! When I got my MU ban I took a step back and thought about why I kept getting into scraps like that, and realized I was putting too much effort into things. So I decided to walk my "wim" level backwards a bit and take a more lackadaisical approach. Worked this time

It sure did!
Wait, damn, I had you D1 lol

Also, good job @Invictius

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:13 pmI appreciate that! And in a roundabout way, I've never done less for a mafia win.

I've never done less for a town loss!

HK, great job in seeming very different from other scum games I've seen you in too!

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pmYeah, that was douchy on my part. I didn't think I could "hang" for a full 48, so pushing for a quick hammer seemed the right play.

It is for you.

But it's not right for town to not let me talk imo. But it's over now anyway. I had the opportunity to vote you last day, but I didn't. I was so tired that day, it was awful.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:56 pmI genuinely doubt that.

I was hard-shielding HK and you ended the day suspecting me. I wouldn't have looked better than HK in any ISO either.

My tinfoil world also thought that wolf!HK would eliminate you, not Nanook, because Nanook was on-board with a Syn chop and there would have been less chance of Nanook sitting down and reassessing.

We will never know now.

But please do wait for the other player when you are in F3. I think that's polite. Strong personal recommendation for next time.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:46 pm I don't actually think there's a way for Dizzy to convince me

I'm pretty sure you thought wrong. =p

Definitely wait for me or whoever is in F3 next time. I can talk.

It was really dumb of me to vote LC though. I was so sure he was town lol. My bad. I was so tired this whole game, so sorry for bad play overall. But it is what it is.

Ok. Well, I wish I had the chance to talk.

GG, scum. Well played, HK! I'm the one to buddy for sure!

Me and Syn could've maybe gotten there, but I wasn't looking forward to F3 anyway.

Wait lol is this a hammer game?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:04 pmYeet Dizzy tomorrow please. I'm done with this acting.

It's not nice to say that town wouldn't catch the last wolf. I'm not acting. I didn't even want you as a wagon.

I don't know. But if I'm alive tomorrow I'll turn every fucking stone until I get it I swear to god you have not even seen shit yet

LC is town for the "Watch who you're having in your PoE" to Gavial. I could switch to Hollow, but that seems equally dumb. Maybe I'm dumb, and if so, I'm sorry.

If LC flips town, Syn better kill my tonight.

Yeah, it's not even LC. Can we vote SYn like now? Also I have two EoDs at the same time.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:17 pm I tried. At least it's on you guys now. Bad call.

Uh. Town loses and wins as a whole. If you're misyeeted, it's not on the others solely.

But like.. I can't focus well now. I think you're scummier than Hollow. I'd probably go Syn here, but I'm not all that. It's even possible I let Nanook off the hook for no reason, but he did in fact do a big derp.

So

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

You know what I don't like on Syndicate? Being alive late in the game. It sucks.

Uh. I feel like LC feels more threatened here. Out of Hollow and LC, I probably prefer to yeet LC. But I prefer neither. I hope I'm wrong, and it's LC. The push was maybe not as strong as I thought.

I'm going to nap and eat and stuff.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:15 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:13 pmMeh

I think your reasons for reading him scum are very bad. Jokes on me if I'm wrong, but I'm not, I don't think.

And I think your reasons for scumreading syn are v bad so

Meh

We yeet you instead then?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:13 pmMeh

I think your reasons for reading him scum are very bad. Jokes on me if I'm wrong, but I'm not, I don't think.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:05 pmFeels like you're stepping it up today, yeah.

I'm just tired irl and don't feel like it, but ok. I had my time to shine D2 when telling everyone why we needed to definitely kill Jimmay before he talked himself into a good position, but nobody engaged with me, though Marmot shot him anyway cause Marmot is my hero.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:52 pm Nanook reading Hollow as town seems like a particularly bad read.

It's Syn or Nanook. But it's probably not Nanook. So it's Syn. Unless it's LC and I've been wrong this whole time. But it's probably not LC, cause he said he wouldn't kill fingers and I believe shit like that because love. So it's probably just Syn if he can do the whole "I don't care please kill me" schtick as mafia.

I'm not reading hollow as town

I mean reading him as scum lol =p

Do I have more WIM now, what? I'm like so tired of this game, I just want the last scum shady to please stand up

Nanook reading Hollow as town seems like a particularly bad read.

It's Syn or Nanook. But it's probably not Nanook. So it's Syn. Unless it's LC and I've been wrong this whole time. But it's probably not LC, cause he said he wouldn't kill fingers and I believe shit like that because love. So it's probably just Syn if he can do the whole "I don't care please kill me" schtick as mafia.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:49 pmsyn - Invictius pushed DK reasonably hard, then flipped wolf. Possible that was for credit.

Invictius didn't push DK a lot.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:22 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:39 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:33 am Ok, then vote lc

Why are you not considering Syn? Your reads are bad and your reasons are bad. You should do good reads and we should probably chop Syn. Bonus, I'll take blame if wrong.

Weren't you the one saying Invictius went too hard on DK or was that nanook?

Not me. I mean, I think I used that reasoning at one time, but I reread, and he didn't go hard on Koba. He retracted his sus D1.

Oh wait, that was just reasons to town read everyone.

Yeah.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:31 pmdizzy - solving his ass off, vv transparent, no hint of agenda

Why are you buddying me? Why are you never wavering? I'm probably one of the best wolves I've seen. Honestly.

ALSO I SAW HIS FACE IT WAS A SCUMMY FACE. Not really.

How is Syn as mafia? I only saw him as town once.

Read Koba's ISO. Chaotic play style. Pretty towny tbh. Mentioned maybe wagoning Alison and had buts about it, and did't do anything about it, though they seemed to be susp of Alison.

I don't know. I'm not in love with this game now, I'm sorry. Please lets win now.

I'm leaning Syn anyway.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:45 amThought dk was town, syn's been townie, the way plat handled dk makes dk probably town

How for the last part?

Cause I think how plat handled Hollow and LC means that they are town. With Koba, not so much. Some shade at the beginning. Then walks back to a town read because Koba shown irritation towards you. But I think that can be faked.

Also, Koba really talked a lot about how to succeed as town or how you should play town in a meta perspective, and didn't do a lot of other meaningful things.

WAIT. I had a reason to town read Koba. I'll iso fuck

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:41 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:41 am I will not have us chop Hollow or LC.

Then it'll be me chopped, those are the options on the table

Why are you melodramatic. We can still move votes lol.

4 of us are town. Come one, town! Be town. Who's town? I'm town. We have two shots.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:41 am Regardless of whether you think my read on syn is correct or not if I try to self prez onto syn guess what

I die cause syn self prezzes onto me

So, no

There's many hours left.

Or like. Some hours left.

I haven't even reread Koba/Syn, and hoping to do that, but honestly I'm tired of mafia lol

I will not have us chop Hollow or LC.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:40 amNo

Why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:55 amYeah this is the thing that clears me if you're thinking critically about it

It really really doesn't for me. I don't care about that. I don't think it's you anyway.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:33 am Ok, then vote lc

Why are you not considering Syn? Your reads are bad and your reasons are bad. You should do good reads and we should probably chop Syn. Bonus, I'll take blame if wrong.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:09 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:13 am I think Invictius's and JJJ"s ISOs spew Nanook town.

Invictius laid the groundwork for us chopping Nanook at endgame. JJJ intentionally hedged his language surrounding Nanook, and with hindsight of JJJ's flip, it's clear that his casing was used to establish WIFOM.

This is the post I tr

What on earth do you town read about that post though? Nothing about Js ISO spews you town imo.

And saying Invictius laid the ground work for chopping Nanook at endgame is a wild stretch and super arbitrary. If anything, it just looks like a thought that isn't real. Invictius doesn't play D1 trying to lay any sort of groundwork for who we're going to chop at endgame. Invictius plays to be a part of the end game when he's a wolf in the first place. He didn't know he was going to die. Like what is this.

Also, @Syn Explain how Invictius was laying the groundwork for chopping Nanook at endgame in your opinion.

Like, Syn is just saying "It's obvious that these interactions points Nanook town" when it's just wild conjecture.

What makes me think Nanook is town is HIS play and his derp. Not the interactions.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:53 pmI reread it and changed my mind
His initial reaction where he's like "oh good something for me to respond to" or whatever feels forced/theatery
Unhappy with how he handled me in terms of his suspicion level on me, not about trading jabs or whatever, thats just us being in a game together
My poe is you or lc, and dizzy. Not both of you/lc, just one of you. I'm not sure which yet tbh.
If you asked me gth is dizzy scum id say fuck that I don't believe in gth.

I know what you mean about the "Oh good, and ISO!" But I think the way Invictius was like "Oh yes, please ISO me, I love those!" is more likely wolf to town, as in "I have nothing to hide!" At least I don't see how it's more w/w than w/t. So don't think it's Hollow tbh.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:07 pmthat POE was created by LC after JJJ's case on Tony and reinforced by JJJ after Marmot outed

It wasn't really a POE. It was a game solution.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 7:02 am [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

Probably.

Analysis ongoing. Please hold.

Me: It's not Nanook. Nanook is spewed town. It's either LC or Dizzy.

Dizzy: After some careful consideration, I've decided it is not Nanook, but instead Syn.

Okay.

I did my own consideration. I actually haven't read the last posts on this page and I don't know where you're at. Cool shade though.

I'll move to Koba/Syn iso and maybe everyone else too later today.

But I don't believe in Nanook as scum very much right now. And not Hollow either.

The way Jimmay and Nanook are slightly hostile to each other still gives me creepy feelings. Can't shake that. But in other ways, derp and the fact that Invictius had both Alison and Nanook as the 5 early town reads, suggests that Nanook is town. Also don't feel Nanook has been scummy this day phase, probably.

I have so little experience with Invictius as mafia. I don't know how much of a basic bish or fancy over thinker he is interaction wise. Normally, I'd say interaction looks the worst on Koba and good for Hollow.

Also, Jimmay's analysis of Hollow/Invictius seems like Jimmay just knows Hollow is town and no way around it. I think I won't budge on this one.

Jimmay has Koba and LC as his light town reads from analysis. Hollow and me as strong town reads. And then Nanook as orange.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 10:58 pm Unironically want to scumread Jay for not giving me meh interaction analysis

what

Usually when you do me in an interaction analysis the takeaway is always somewhere between "thats bad" and "deeply meh"

I haven't even gotten to you yet goofball. Blame the alphabet

This is still weird as fuck tbh.

It's still giving me creepy feels. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME This is the thing.

Eh, I just read Alison as having a choice between t/t wagons on Falcon/LC on D1. I've been so sure on LC as town. Why stop now. Why not just lose spectacularly if I'm wrong.

Invictius ISO: Nanook is probably town. Also, Nanook probably did derp. Hollow is also town, I think. Invictius is not distancing back, rather trying to keep Hollow away. BUT, he had a weird thing where he over explained not remembering Hollow's user name, which was an eye soar tbh tbh.

Koba interaction looks the worst to me.

Apparently Invictius left to get vaccine and left his vote on LC. Interaction with LC is ...a lot of distancing if LC scum.

Going to read Alison now.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

Probably.

Analysis ongoing. Please hold.