The Syndicate

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:48 pm @Dyslexicon

Next time. Next time. Gg.

GG, you had me at one point ^^

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:53 pm The dyslexia was real on the part of town


Wp, but expect the special kind of paranoia next time we play ;D

Thank you. ^^

Love playing with you

Thank you for hosting, @JaggedJimmyJay

That was quite exhausting.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:37 pm Mafc players never vote dizzy lol

Sean votes me when I'm mafia actually

But you should have killed me instead of Axe, would have saved me days

The game is over diz you can stop lol

Oh ok

GG, Nook

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:38 pm Gg diz, you did exactly what you had to

Very cool

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:37 pm Mafc players never vote dizzy lol

Sean votes me when I'm mafia actually

But you should have killed me instead of Axe, would have saved me days

You have to vote in poll too though if you're not trying to reaction vote or whatever

Thank you Sean, it's not gj!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:32 pm Okay, I'mma just give up. Let me know when you two reach a consensus on who I should vote, and I'll vote there.

Nook the crook!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:23 pm Its specifically my wincon to keep axe alive and pocketed forever lol

And probably you should have lol

Ok Sean, I'll break down what I think are the most objective things to latch onto in this game. So you can see if you agree or not

- Nook is known to be a busser because it often works according to him. He ended up voting both Tommy and Porscha, but did not put attention onto them.
- I'm not a busser. I'm not above it, but I don't think it's generally a good strategy and I only do it circumstantially. I know you critiqued me for not pushing enough on Porscha, but I did push and put attention on exactly Tommy and Porscha on D1. I didn't vote Porscha on D2, but I did think she was likely to go over. So if I wanted to bus from D1, it doesn't make sense for me as mafia to not follow up. I did vote her briefly, but then changed back to Achro because Ender wasn't self pressing either, plus I didn't want the Dizzy/Ender narrative to continue (both Achro and Rondo was on this idea).
- In hindsight, I think the NAA kill would probably only be made by Nook here. Others bringing the kill up to clear him for it before him is only proof of that.
- Nook saying that Wilgy dying made him snap vote me is very Press X to doubt. Wilgy was voting Nook the previous day, not me. If there's anyone I would want to kill before a F3, it's probably you. You know that I have made it a priority to kill you in I think every game I've been mafia against you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:04 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:41 pm Eh... probably should just let it rand.

Are you this unsure?

Can you tell me what's going on and anything I can do to help?

I'm not actually going to let it rand.

I knew yesterday I'd be in this spot, and I've suspected both of you most of the game.

Dizzy DID feel give me bad vibes out of the gate, and Lucy and Mac kind of seemed to create a mindmeld around scum!Dizzy, and I feel like they weren't completely off based.

Nook on the other hand is playing pretty much exactly like how I would expect scum!Nook to play. In particular, the Wilgy shield is definitely a scum!Nook move, and just some of his movements have felt like scum (I remember on D2 he was voting me because I had been afk for a while, and I showed up and didn't say anything townie, but he just immediately unvoted me and moved to Porscha and it felt so damn wolfy, and even worse now that Porscha has flipped wolf. The only big thing that doesn't support scum!Nook is the NaA kill, but idk... NaA pretty much plastered Tommy and Porscha, so I don't think it is that unusual of a kill, even if Nook often tries to pocket NaA. Since NaA hadn't stated a townread on Nook, it really doesn't seem that unusual, only a little unusual of a kill for Nook.

I can't really speak to the bad vibes on me from you, nor Lucy. I don't think Mac thought me as mafia tbh, but I think he was afraid that I might be at some points.

I don't know the rationale behind the NAA kill, but wouldn't be surprised if trying to point away from Nook was one reason, especially since he's used it so much in his defence. Or it could just be preventative. It makes much more sense now that I know that it's him, cause who else would kill NAA. You still have to get to a point where you think I make that kill and I'm pretty sure I don't from my experience with NAA

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:41 pm Eh... probably should just let it rand.

Are you this unsure?

Can you tell me what's going on and anything I can do to help?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:56 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:54 amI think nook was saying that if you're mafia, it's a free W for you here.

I don't think so, especially when you add the second line of that post.

It's "I'm voting you cause it's probably win if you're mafia, but it will suck if you're town"

You voting me would be more likely than me voting you, from Nook's perspective. So when he turns around on this later saying that it was clear where you would vote, it's pretty outing

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:55 am Anyways I am lightly leaning towards Nanook right now. I will wait to see if they show up though. If they don't, I will almost assuredly go Nook.

Well, I hope you do

Nook the crook!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:54 amI think nook was saying that if you're mafia, it's a free W for you here.

I don't think so, especially when you add the second line of that post.

Here

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:44 pm Assuming Nook as mafia, this is all I'll say

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:55 pm Just in case

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm Can we kill vulgard now or

No, sleep.

Tomorrow is the sleep day

Read this

And the fact that a w!Dizzy does not take Sean to a F3

In any case, gg and see you tomorrow

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:25 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:39 pm Yeah f4 where everyone says their intended vote target is kinda pointless

I did it first so its not my fault, when everyone does it it just removes the weight of the nk a good bit. Particularly when 3 say they want to vote one lol

Anyways thats a discussion for post, hope you're mafia, either way gg

I didn't say anything F4 and still think we shoulda slept when we had 6.

And yet it was clear anyways where you'd end lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:46 pm Its wifomy obviously but even this f3, like...does scumNanook really think getting sean to vote dizzy is his wincon? If im mafia all my kills and most of my thread moves have been strictly anti-wincon

Nook

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:32 pm I mean if you're mafia its probably a free W so that's cool

If im wrong and you're town yeah it kinda sucks but

He says it was clear you you'd end up voting and that he wouldn't think you voting me would be his wincon, but the first post today shows that he did think you would vote me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:40 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:24 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:47 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:01 am Dizzy, are you going to be sad if I vote you here?

Yeah, a little bit, but it's not in my hands

This is bad. I almost snap voted you for this.

Sean. Why?

It is in your hands. Just because the decision ultimately rests with me, suggesting that what you do doesn't matter is a form of AtE, which can be used to manipulate me.

Yeah, I'm not closing off, that's not what I mean. But the vote is in your hands. I've shown you a couple of posts that I think is outing for Nook

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:47 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:01 am Dizzy, are you going to be sad if I vote you here?

Yeah, a little bit, but it's not in my hands

This is bad. I almost snap voted you for this.

Sean. Why?

I'll be around for a bit, Sean. If you want, you can ask me stuff and such if you think it helps

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:52 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:01 am Can you each go through your progression on each other? Like how did you read the other through the game?

I thought he was fine D1, and then I thought he was doc after the no kill so I didn't really try to read him that much. Then I realised he wasn't doc, but I still thought he seemed normal. I remember liking when he removed me from PoE, but I still think I had him in my PoE before we chopped Lucy. Apparently I decided to stay on Vul after reading Flanders iso. And now I know he's mafia. Nook is kind of tricky to read, cause he can often be a red herring. I kind of thought I could read him on vibe like on D1, but that obviously failed

Kind of had some resistance to go Nook all game, not sure why

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:01 am Can you each go through your progression on each other? Like how did you read the other through the game?

I thought he was fine D1, and then I thought he was doc after the no kill so I didn't really try to read him that much. Then I realised he wasn't doc, but I still thought he seemed normal. I remember liking when he removed me from PoE, but I still think I had him in my PoE before we chopped Lucy. Apparently I decided to stay on Vul after reading Flanders iso. And now I know he's mafia. Nook is kind of tricky to read, cause he can often be a red herring. I kind of thought I could read him on vibe like on D1, but that obviously failed

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:01 am Dizzy, are you going to be sad if I vote you here?

Yeah, a little bit, but it's not in my hands

Nook the crook tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:25 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:39 pm Yeah f4 where everyone says their intended vote target is kinda pointless

I did it first so its not my fault, when everyone does it it just removes the weight of the nk a good bit. Particularly when 3 say they want to vote one lol

Anyways thats a discussion for post, hope you're mafia, either way gg

I didn't say anything F4 and still think we shoulda slept when we had 6.

And yet it was clear anyways where you'd end lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:46 pm Its wifomy obviously but even this f3, like...does scumNanook really think getting sean to vote dizzy is his wincon? If im mafia all my kills and most of my thread moves have been strictly anti-wincon

Nook

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:32 pm I mean if you're mafia its probably a free W so that's cool

If im wrong and you're town yeah it kinda sucks but

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:29 pm Probably going to vote Nook. Dizzy, why are you town? Nook, why are you scum?

Because my role card says so

Nice

Assuming Nook as mafia, this is all I'll say

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:55 pm Just in case

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm Can we kill vulgard now or

No, sleep.

Tomorrow is the sleep day

Read this

And the fact that a w!Dizzy does not take Sean to a F3

In any case, gg and see you tomorrow

I was most likely voting you anyway, Nook, so it's fine either way

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

Maybe Sean arrives before I go to sleep, maybe not

I can't do anything here so

Very cool

Intent to slap anything that moves

Just in case

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm Can we kill vulgard now or

No, sleep.

Tomorrow is the sleep day

[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine

Intent to slap Nook tomorrow

I'll be home in a couple of hours and start over start over

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:12 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie

It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout

Oh ok

Also very possible

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:09 am @Dyslexicon are you going to be pissed if I come at you full-force here?

Meh, it would be not good.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:32 am let's just do what vulgard says to do

Will consider this legacy maybe for 50% of my thinking today
But the Dizzy post is just very yeetable for me. Looked like truth

It was the truth, but not in the way you're positing

Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:06 pm It's the Flanders for me tho

I already read Nook and Wilgy isos on previous days, and they did not feel like that to me

But as I said, I should probably go over everyone. That was what I wanted to do, but not tonight

It's the Flanders for me tho

I already read Nook and Wilgy isos on previous days, and they did not feel like that to me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:59 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:51 pm I feel like the game has been going on long enough, and I think Vul is the last mafia

If majority want to sleep, whatever, but I vote no

I do vote sleep for my life so good night

Did you mention Vulgard as PoE even once befote today?

Yes

I feel like the game has been going on long enough, and I think Vul is the last mafia

If majority want to sleep, whatever, but I vote no

I do vote sleep for my life so good night

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 pm Sleeping at 4 is better than at 6

Convince me, because where I'm standing sleeping asap after no clears are around is best mathematically.

I think custom is to sleep at 4 if it gets to it. Like this is not a coin flip situation

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:32 pm Sleeping at 4 is better than at 6

Just chopping mafia today is better than both of these tbh

StupidSexyVulgard also makes the kills make sense tbh

I was going to go through all ISOs and I still might given time. But then Flanders iso is probably just the mafia imo

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm Can we kill vulgard now or

No, sleep.

Why tho

I'd rather we just try to end this game now. There's no point in dragging it out