The Syndicate

A general rule is the worse things are going for town, the less wolves feel the need to act. I'd definitely reconsider nutella if we end up voting out town

I feel if one of the people in the general POE is voted out and is scum there is a high chance that the others are as well

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:05 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:34 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:31 pm Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

I have 1 post left, which I'll reserve in case of something that I or my partner really need to say. See you at EoD.

Can you pinpoint why hedging is mafia indicative or do you just not like it? You may view it as counterproductive and not efficient protown behavior but that doesn't make it not town behavior. I will die on the hill that hedging is more villagery than not on average

Hedging is scummy because scum are far more concerned about staying consistent. They don't want too much scum reads off the bat because they don't want to make too many enemies or be blamed when their vote goes wrong but don't want many townreads either because they might have to vote them out later. I can link you to times when I caught a wolf based on excessive hedginess or when I was hedgy as a wolf myself. Of course, it can also be indicative of inexperienced villagers, but I'd like to think that the player quality here is too good for that

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:31 pm Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine Yeah that isn't happening.

All this "x could be scum, but could also be town" and "I don't want to vote for anyone, they're all so towny" doesn't help town at all and makes it easy for wolves to hide.

I have 1 post left, which I'll reserve in case of something that I or my partner really need to say. See you at EoD.

I will pop in to say that the one thing I do not like about this game is how hedgy everyone is. This even applies to some of my townreads. Voting "sleep" or whatever should not even be in consideration.

Have very few posts left until 1h before EoD, so here's a couple things I'd like to say

It would probably be a good idea to use an investigative ability on Mac and if he survives a few days he may be worth looking at, but for now there are better targets. I still am not a huge fan of Mac's progression, I can understand why he was hesitant to townread us due to his role but it doesn't explain the others such as the odd push on Cass. Still, I think mafia Mac would be more likely to check Falcon early, and could have easily justified it as resolving an inactive slot or whatever.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:08 am Dizzy was voting Mac literally moments before I told him to get his vote off. Telling Dizzy to get his vote off was also a general reprimand for anyone with a vote on Mac. A player doesn't have to have a vote on someone to be eager to lynch them, they're not mutually exclusive.



You calling Mac scummy but not voting for him is scummy btw.



You play the game your way, I'll play it mine.






OHHHHHHHHH yeah, if you think clearing my slot when I'm not participating all that much was a sub-optimal move by Mac, then you don't know much about my scum game.

Not impressed with this post. Falcon, you're being treated as confirmed town and it's important for confirmed town to be vocal and bold. Obviously not advocating a vote for this slot but if we want to win it's important that you step up your game.

Despite not really seeing anything towny in Dyslexicon's ISO I really don't like their wagon so I will avoid that for now

Axehole has been disruptive and has been acting anti-town but apparently that's typical of them so I don't know what to think. Would not mind that slot going bye-bye.

Wilgy has been scummy, I don't like how his first move was to randomly townread a vocal player which is a scum thing to do, and none of their reads are impressive. Currently my preferred option.

MR has also been uninspiring, it feels they are not doing any work but still trying to maintain a thread presence regardless. Wouldn't mind them being voted out either.

Sloonei is mixed, I can believe he's not caught up based on posts (while he would know more if he was in wolfchat) and he hasn't been criticizing players for being active, which is a common tell for inactive scum. However, the way he immediately townread Marmot for his post while doing the same to no one else is a little sketchy. Not the biggest fan of his MR interaction either. Would not vote for now as I'd like to see him more active but I'd like him to participate more now.

Aside from the previous reasons to townread Marmot, there's also this:

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:44 am falcon posted in the game, I am mildly surprised he wouldn't log into a neighborhood chat he received, especially if he was town (or really either alignment)

Due to my role I happen to know BTSC is over Discord, and the wording suggests Marmot doesn't know that, which he would if he was a wolf (although I'm not sure how he would word it if it was the case). Although this isn't a 100% derpclear I think it does add another piece of evidence to townread him.

Anne still doesn't promote any strong feelings in me one way or another. As Nanook has not posted again due to hitting his cap my read on him is the same as before. Everyone else I didn't mention is a townread to varying extents.

I believe I should have three posts left between me and my partner (assuming he didn't post while I was writing this) so this may be my last post before EoD. See ya then, I guess. For now, my vote's still on Wilgy.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:14 am

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:10 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:01 am Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.

Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.

It doesn’t have to be a lie for him to be mafia. I don’t have any gripes with the claim I have gripes with how he used his role. And idc if he waited 26 hours I’m sure mac would see the value in having his slot cleared especially when people were already wary of him at the start of the game, especially when he has the ability to carry this game himself if he became clear and tried. What does clearing falcon achieve for town? I’ve seen falcon cleared one game before and he just proceeded to stop caring about the game and essentially 5 posted every day phase, it was a bad decision by mac if he’s town to clear falcon over himself considering ive heard falcon is pretty easy to read from others and the fact that falcon is gonna sheep Mac regardless despite being the clear and i think too highly of Mac to think he would make a bad play like that whilst simultaneously having a poe that I have an immense amount of trouble seeing of having any sense to it. He essentially has me and 2 slots who I have clearing interactions with on his poe, it’s just incredibly strange to believe that he legitimately believes me being scum with either dizzy or Cassandra makes sense based on the interactions I’ve had with both slots.

Counterpoint: it sounds exactly like Mac to get bored of waiting and make a snap decision.

You might be right of course. I do think someone amongst the 'clears' could easily be lying or else Mafia have extra PR power.

Alignments aren't tied to roles, so this game wouldn't have balance like that in mind

That does mean that we're unlikely to see a role like a Cop that would have significantly more utility on one faction

Another thing about Marmot's claim, if he was scum he wouldn't want the town to know that mafia resolves ties. Him claiming does put a commitment on him if votes are tied, not that they should be tied of course. That's another reason why he's likely town, and actually you can probably move him to the top category on my list.

My updated reads taking into account current events:

ilario/leetic
cassandra
iaffr
Lime Coke
falcon46ca
MacDougall
nutella
Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay
staypositivefriend
anne
Master Radishes
Sloonei
Dyslexicon
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

DrWilgy
NotAnAxehole

Mac and falcon obviously move up for a claim that Occam's Razor leads me to believe makes them town. Marmot moves up based on claim and a potential derpclear, while JJJ and spf move down - the former because I'm not sure I buy that he thinks we shouldn't be pressuring people and the latter due to a lack of real effort today and a number of waffly posts including the one on how there aren't consensus town reads. I still think they're most likely town but they're the weaker reads in my towncore. Sloonei and Dyslexicon both move down due to POE.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:24 am i dunno. i think that mac's claim might be fake. i'm open to exploring options outside of him, though. it concerns me that there are no consensus scumreads outside of mac, which is probably bad news for the game regardless of mac's alignment

If Mac has a fakeclaim, falcon will be able to tell us, unless you believe they made such a risky w/w gambit that would result in the other dying if one of them dies. Anyway, how do you feel about DrWilgy? He's pretty scummy

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:59 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:56 am I'm doing the best I can with the information you've presented.

My understanding is that you and falcon were given a neighborhood together. You don't know each other's alignments. Collectively, you were also given an alignment check that you could use on someone at any point in the game including Day 1. You opted to use it on falcon. Is this correct?

To me, this doesn't seem like the logical use of this role, which is part of why I don't buy it.

Also, you have 7 posts until postcap (104), just in case you weren't aware.

If what Mac says is true, it only clears Falcon and not Mac. Keep in mind 1. if Mac is lying about the sequence of events Falcon can dispute that unless they mutually agreed to a lie and 2. Mac would be putting one of his partners under unneeded scrutiny if they're w/w. I don't entirely trust Mac but I'm willing to treat Falcon as town.

Wait a second, if Mac really did wait to check, and Falcon can confirm, maybe it is T/T as wolf Mac would check as soon as possible in that situation. Maybe Mac knew Falcon would be inactive and felt there would be no risk in waiting, but that seems unlikely.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:56 am I'm doing the best I can with the information you've presented.

My understanding is that you and falcon were given a neighborhood together. You don't know each other's alignments. Collectively, you were also given an alignment check that you could use on someone at any point in the game including Day 1. You opted to use it on falcon. Is this correct?

To me, this doesn't seem like the logical use of this role, which is part of why I don't buy it.

Also, you have 7 posts until postcap (104), just in case you weren't aware.

If what Mac says is true, it only clears Falcon and not Mac. Keep in mind 1. if Mac is lying about the sequence of events Falcon can dispute that unless they mutually agreed to a lie and 2. Mac would be putting one of his partners under unneeded scrutiny if they're w/w. I don't entirely trust Mac but I'm willing to treat Falcon as town.

Don't have Ctrl-F to check right now as I'm on mobile but I believe Falcon posted a townread on Mac before Mac did the same to Falcon. Does Falcon have a reason to strongly townread Mac?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:39 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:34 am falcon and I have a chat... I have a green on falcon because we have a role that means one of us can get a green on the other. first in best dressed. falcon didn't join the chat for the first 36 hrs of the game so I used it and got a green on him.

What do you mean by "can get a green on the other"? What would have happened if Falcon was scum?

sorry I've just been saying green a lot

there is a shared alignment check and I used it on him and it returned green. if he was mafia it'd have been red.

That does seem a bit unbalanced in a game where roles aren't tied to alignment and millers explicitly don't exist, seems like it would be unfair for Mafia to rand into such a role. Regardless, I would definitely feel more comfortable voting for Wilgy or Axehole.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:34 am falcon and I have a chat... I have a green on falcon because we have a role that means one of us can get a green on the other. first in best dressed. falcon didn't join the chat for the first 36 hrs of the game so I used it and got a green on him.

What do you mean by "can get a green on the other"? What would have happened if Falcon was scum?

I'd still like Mac to answer my question but you have to consider that if Mac and Falcon are both scum Mac just outed Falcon for no reason. I don't think he'd be likely to do that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:19 am I'm genuinely whelmed

You might as well tell us how you know he's town. Are your roles linked? Do you have BTSC? Does your role give you information before D1?

Also Nanook was voting Falcon for forever and I find it a little weird that both of you have a connection to him

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:54 pm finding it weirdly difficult to get the energy to Make Posts, and i'm not gonna force myself to play if i'm not feeling it, so i'm probably done posting for the night. that said, i'm around if anyone wants any specific opinions/takes from me

What do you think of the respective claims of Marmot and Mac? Thoughts on Dyslexicon and Falcon?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:43 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:56 pm honestly does mac have a role where he has to keep talking about farts for no reason or is he just mafia

This is tough because I have no idea how to read Mac when he's fucking around this much.

firstly I'm town

secondly I have a green on someone

thirdly because of this I would self resolve

because the mafia know this there are mafia voting me

Can you drop your "green"? I have a feeling it's Falcon but I'll ask anyway

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:38 pm Town

falcon
iaafr
Lime coke
Nutella

Prob town but weh

Jay
spf
Marmot
wilgy
Axe

Haven't seen them post

Anne

Kill in

Dyslexicon
Cassandra
leetic

if I've missed anyone they're null too I guess

you can flip me now

*farts*

Why exactly would you want to vote us?

Anyway, falcon/Mac likely same alignment

I'm not sure if a role that would go to a random player is allowed in a non-bastard setup, or if a role that works differently if it is on town or mafia would be included. The OP doesn't mention how tied votes will be resolved, only that a player will still die, which does lend some credence to MM's claim but I'm not sure if he's telling the full truth. On another note, falcon's posts thus far have not been inspiring.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:50 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 pm Also, just gonna throw this out there because I don't know how flips work .

I can break vote ties in this game as one of my abilities. If I die, it goes to the mafia team. So uhhh, just know that if I'm alive, I will break any ties, and if I'm dead, mafia will.

Just don't make any ties in this game and we're probably golden.

In this setup such a role would have to be able to be a part of either faction. If it's part of mafia, what is the point?

If I'm mafia, it will go to a random player, and we're back where we started.

And you know this how?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 pm Also, just gonna throw this out there because I don't know how flips work .

I can break vote ties in this game as one of my abilities. If I die, it goes to the mafia team. So uhhh, just know that if I'm alive, I will break any ties, and if I'm dead, mafia will.

Just don't make any ties in this game and we're probably golden.

In this setup such a role would have to be able to be a part of either faction. If it's part of mafia, what is the point?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:32 pm [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

one fart too many

I do have one question for you: Is there a reason why it took you this long in the game to vote for someone? Wilgy and Sloonei are the only ones to have held out for longer and the latter didn't even show

ilario/leetic
cassandra
iaffr
Lime Coke
nutella
JaggedJimmyJay
staypositivefriend
Marmot
anne
Master Radishes
falcon46ca
Sloonei
Dyslexicon
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
MacDougall
DrWilgy
NotAnAxehole

Note: Using a cyan/red instead of green/red scale for town/mafia in order to be friendlier to anyone that may have colorblindness

Hi, I'll be here for a little. I do like how Cass's procession has been very similar to mine and my partner's in a way that doesn't feel like sheeping, so she is one of my strongest townreads at this point. I do find it scummy how DrWilgy's first action was to immediately TR a random villager, and I would definitely keep an eye on him. None of Dyslexicon's posts are really substantive and I would like them to post a general read of all of the players, right now they're a slight scumlean. I still haven't seen anything impressive from Mac or Axehole's ends. Master Radishes is meh for me, nothing in their ISO really sticks out. Inactive players are inactive.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:56 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:52 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:46 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:44 pm illario is kinda scummy but he's told me before he tries to be scummy as town right away to not get night killed and if he's mason with leetic then he prob is annoyed leetic claimed so too soon to tell

They're closer to a hydra than a mason

Neither me nor ilario had mentioned anything about a Hydra and instead I described it as a weird Mason/Double voter combo. I find this interesting because describing it as a Hydra is exactly how the host described it in BTSC, which makes me think this is potential TMI

You're two players sharing the same slot how is that tmi lol

For one, hydras typically don't have two votes

But I really should be conserving posts especially since my restriction is twice as strict as everyone else's so this really will be my last post for the night

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:46 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:44 pm illario is kinda scummy but he's told me before he tries to be scummy as town right away to not get night killed and if he's mason with leetic then he prob is annoyed leetic claimed so too soon to tell

They're closer to a hydra than a mason

Neither me nor ilario had mentioned anything about a Hydra and instead I described it as a weird Mason/Double voter combo. I find this interesting because describing it as a Hydra is exactly how the host described it in BTSC, which makes me think this is potential TMI

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:21 am I like NAA and dislike leetic in this interaction. NAA is having a joking around, while leetic continues to try to force a conversation with him, but I'm perceiving efforts to shade NAA for his antics than to actually engage him with a curious mind.

Yeah, I don't consider blatant attempts at gamethrowing to be "joking around". There isn't really any towny motivation in any of Axehole's posts and regardless of alignment their attitude stinks.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:39 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:21 am I like NAA and dislike leetic in this interaction. NAA is having a joking around, while leetic continues to try to force a conversation with him, but I'm perceiving efforts to shade NAA for his antics than to actually engage him with a curious mind.

though for what it's worth, this matches one of my perceptions on leetic that

idk, leetic's idea of towny and scummy is sort of surface level and level 1 feeling all the time, though i personally liked the way he townread me... but idk, if he's the scum archetype who likes to townread what they think they'd correctly townread when the articulatable reason comes up... idk

it's a playstyle i tend to scumread

i could easily see this take being a real and good take and yet i'm not even sure leetic's scum

Is there anything wrong with a "level 1" feeling read? It would be a fallacy to assume that just because a read is more complicated, it means that it must be more accurate. Regardless, self-voting is something that should always be discouraged and I don't see town doing it that often unless they get immensely frustrated.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:51 am @ilario if you are town i'm here to introduce the idea that you should be paranoid of your own slot

Part of our role is that we're confirmed town to each other (like masons). If me and ilario are of different alignments, then the game is bastard and the rules explicitly state that this isn't a bastard game.

Anyhow, I read LC, iaafr, nutella, JJJ, and cassandra as town, with Marmot and SPF being lean town, anne being null, and Nanook/Mac/Axehole being scummy. ilario largely agrees with me, though he has anne as town and JJJ as more null. Everyone else is too inactive for now.

I'll comment more on Nanook when he's here since I want to see his response. Mac's posts have all just been kind of lame and usually I see stronger pushes from him when he's playing as town. I think I've already said enough about Axehole.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:11 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:50 pm I think I can place a townread on IAAFR, mainly for this post:

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:47 pm ok I scumread the earlier uwu but I think I townread this one

It's weird but I can see this being a legitimate thought process that I might understand?

Spoiler: show

Which I'm guessing is "SPF responding to reasoning to scumread her by doing the exact same thing" is the reason?

It's small but it's a start and it's something I can at least explain somewhat.

oh no the only reason LC has to correctly townread me is a joke read that I didn't actually believe in oh noooooooooo

Debunking another person's reason for townreading someone is not something that scum do, this provides another reason to solidify my townreading of this slot

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:37 am I am town!




Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!

One post in the thread isn't much of "works". What's your read on Nanook?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:36 am I am here to do farts

You too should be doing more. Anyways, with this post I think I'm at a combined 54 posts remaining with my partner for the day, and I need to finish my geology project, so I think I'll head out for the night unless someone does something ridiculously scummy.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:55 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:51 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:23 am the fact that illario was not immediately suspicious of the fact that he is one of my strongest townreads is probably the scummiest thing about him so far, but i refuse to expect our meta dynamic to play out in the exact same way every game. i'm going to #BreakTheCycle

Believe me, I was. But I held back because I wanted to conserve posts and because I was suspicious of your early tr on me in the last two turbos we played, so I ignored it and figured maybe your confidence in getting me right so early in those games carried over to how you’re reading me here.


Also to make sure this isn’t a total waste of a post I’m gonna post something now that I didn’t intend to plan on posting so early for thread health reasons but I may as well make this post count.

If town can’t find a elim we all agree on today we don’t shrugyeet a low poster, we yeet NAA. If there’s a vig in this setup and you’re unsure who to shoot, you shoot NAA. To explain why, I played one game with him and in that game:

-he antagonized the entire lobby
-shut down the town leaders due to his own personal reasons that weren’t game related
-forced a poe on everyone to follow that had 90% town in it
- refuses to explain a single read in his horrible poe
- scumread people for trying to question that terrible poe
- tried to speed up days by getting town speedyeeted for no reason
- after he finished doing all that he cemented his game throwing ways by self voting in lylo and letting mafia blitz him.

I thought maybe he was just having a bad time outside of the game and maybe that translated into his play that game and that was a one off for him bad game for him But I get a sinking feeling that’s not the case. Essentially what I’m saying is idc about his alignment, it’s always +ev to get rid of him if he refuses to work with the lobby before he gets a chance to hold the thread hostage like he did last time and I STRONGLY encourage any vig to shoot him because of it.

Glad we're on the same page here regarding this, and no, it's not a 1 time deal because he basically gamethrew Fortune of Lies as well. It's best to vig him or get him dead by any means necessary and never let him end game.

I don't plan on voting anybody else for as long as he still has a self vote

To quote Mikey:

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

If you are town then this means you believe you are the best lynch.

I didn't vote for the self-voter in that game and that's a mistake I won't repeat again.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:14 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:13 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:07 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?

That's...yeah I'm willing to vote that.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Honestly if I don't come up with a good scumread I'm probably lobbying to yeet him no matter what.

You can't kill a 2-shot cop

Number one, roles are not necessarily tied to alignments here, number two, if you are town you just painted a massive target on your back, and number three, you picked a really inorganic time to claim

Like seriously, I'm not sure why you felt the need to do that

Wooosh (it's a joke)

The self voting doesn't make me like you either

I need to exaggerate the strength of my RVS wagon.

RVS? People are actually making reads now. Either you're not paying attention or you're not taking this seriously, and either way I don't like it.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:07 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?

That's...yeah I'm willing to vote that.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Honestly if I don't come up with a good scumread I'm probably lobbying to yeet him no matter what.

You can't kill a 2-shot cop

Number one, roles are not necessarily tied to alignments here, number two, if you are town you just painted a massive target on your back, and number three, you picked a really inorganic time to claim

Like seriously, I'm not sure why you felt the need to do that

Wooosh (it's a joke)

The self voting doesn't make me like you either

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:07 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?

That's...yeah I'm willing to vote that.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Honestly if I don't come up with a good scumread I'm probably lobbying to yeet him no matter what.

You can't kill a 2-shot cop

Number one, roles are not necessarily tied to alignments here, number two, if you are town you just painted a massive target on your back, and number three, you picked a really inorganic time to claim

Like seriously, I'm not sure why you felt the need to do that

I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:11 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 pmuwu

requoting for emphasis

I'll switch to [VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine. Clearly, you should have more to say than this.

Double post due to technical difficulties on my end. My internet just isn't the greatest. Hope this doesn't count towards my total since I'm strapped for posts as is.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pm Nutella may be outed mafia

If she's outed mafia, why are you still voting the falcon guy? Your push on JJJ hasn't been any more inspiring to me

Anyway, the EM meta stuff is pretty meaningless to me as I've never played there. Not sure how to feel about the SPF wagon already getting three votes, I townread iaffr but am not entirely sure on anne.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:11 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 pmuwu

requoting for emphasis

I'll switch to [VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine. Clearly, you should have more to say than this.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:11 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 pmuwu

requoting for emphasis

I'll switch to [VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine. Clearly, you should have more to say than this.

Checking in again after doing some work on a geology project. Of the people who have been active so far, I don't see anyone that's too scummy - the one person I'm unsure of is Nanook, as many of his posts are not contributing and he seems determined to hit is post limit early, but my main concern is that I have no idea why he's still voting a player who hasn't even showed despite his open suspicion of JJJ. I also don't really like SPF's entrance, they aren't commenting on anything and I'd like to see them actually contribute.

Anyway, I feel cassandra is likely town as I like their progression, LC, JJJ, and nutella are lean town and I still townread iaafr from earlier. It's worth noting that a significant amount of players have yet to make significant contributions.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:32 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:31 pm JJJ feels off to me but idk if it's just the syndicate

I kind of agree with this, tbh.

I've seen his scum play and he actually didn't feel off then, but I see what you mean

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:25 pmI'm vanilla

On one hand, you're vanilla claiming in a confirmed role madness setup. On the other hand, that would be a risky strategy for scum on the beginning of D1

Not sure I totally buy your claim, but I townread you for now

Gonna have to be wise about how I use my posts

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:11 pm how come this site keeps showing me as online even when i press "appear offline," now i'm going to look like mafia lurking sob

It doesn't show you as online for me, so I think you will only appear as online on your own account (as well as any mods/hosts/admins/etc)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:12 pm It'd be super neat if the gang could call their votes in the thread when they place them in the poll. It's not a "rule" I understand.

I realize some folks have a moral objection or something, but if you don't, then let's have a ball calling those votes. There's no other way to keep track with the current technology.

Aren't you usually doing more solving by now?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:10 pm

anne wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:09 pm why are illario and leetic on the same thingy? are they the same player?

We're some weird Masons/Double Voter combo

We share a post limit though, so I'll have to be at half capacity

Is this legitimate?

What reason would I have to lie? My partner would contradict me if I did

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:11 pm If I don't get invested, the game won't fuck with my sleep.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine allow me to get you invested then

anne wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:09 pm why are illario and leetic on the same thingy? are they the same player?

We're some weird Masons/Double Voter combo

We share a post limit though, so I'll have to be at half capacity

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:28 pm Why ising the ask?

Why not? Might as well get started now

Though I'll probably wait before posting more D0 in case my partner wants to say anything

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:51 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:33 pm There are intellectual vagabonds, to whom the hereditary dwelling-place of their fathers seems too cramped and oppressive for them to be willing to satisfy themselves with the limited space any more: instead of keeping within the limits of a temperate style of thinking, and taking as inviolable truth what furnishes comfort and tranquility to thousands, they overlap all bounds of the traditional and run wild with their imprudent criticism and untamed mania for doubt, these extravagating vagabonds.

Noting the iaafr town.

Any reasons for your read? More importantly, why is your first major action jumping to a townread for a relatively active player?

I do have to wonder if character claiming is a good idea at this point, the wolves may have a role that benefits from knowing that information

Just something to consider before you make a move like that

6pm wouldn't be too bad right now but could become a problem for me if I survive for longer than a week. Why don't y'all help me hammer 8pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:28 am Why is 12am not an option?

I assume 12pm is supposed to be 12am, just based on its position on the poll? If it's not, then I'm changing my vote

Hi, I'm confirming my role, well the part of it I can confirm at least

10-12 will be my best time for EoD, while anything before 6 would really be suboptimal