The Syndicate

Wow, I was right on two of the three mafia on D1 and took down the other one with my role. Too bad nobody listened to me...

Town is gonna lose this one, I can already tell.

Sorry DS

I'm only lovers with DS during this day phase; I get to pick someone else the next day. It's how my role works

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:21 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.
That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet
First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:11 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point
It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?
These are leetic's interactions with DS.

I don't see any indication here that leetic would want DS. to survive Day 1.

None of these posts imply he is scum, I was just defending myself/asking for clarification. Like just because I shade someone, does that mean I want them to die No because it is just how I scumhunt.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:11 pm If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?
Two for one ain't a bad deal.

What am I supposed to say to this? If DS is town, losing two townies would be terrible for balance, especially if there are more than two scum. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 pm i dunno if i believe leetic. they sure waited till the eleventh hour which is different when he claimed cop in community. what do you think @DS.?

Why do you hold me to the same standard as one game that I played over a year ago?

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:11 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:11 pm If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?
Are you lovers with DS?

Yeah

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:22 pm It's almost as though leetic wants to bitch about me that I didn't obey a command...but when I did the job eventually...leetic wants to bitch about me instead of commenting on what I had to say about people.

I said GTH, and "[doing] the job eventually" is the opposite of GTH

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:14 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:41 am You know what else is weird? The fact that I have more posts so far than anyone else here and yet I am the wagon for some reason. What do people have against getting anything done?
What have you gotten done?

Lame, especially since I asked you to do something and you refused to do it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:33 am i remember my first game with leetic, when they were caught out for TMI as scum they disappeared from the thread and didn't engage us while we lynched them.

i saw more fighting passion in leetic this time around, so i don't want to go there yet. i want to talk and understand.

as for the breakdown, i prefer it being 9v2, but i wouldn't be offended if it was 8v3 or 8v1v2. i just didn't think about it until "partner" was thrown around so much tbh.
Which game was that?

Also, I'm down with the Mac vote. That guy is dangerous. [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I don't like this vote. You're following a wagon on someone for a reason that's not necessarily indicative of their alignment. Reminds me of your Sloonei vote in the last game I played with you.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:33 am i remember my first game with leetic, when they were caught out for TMI as scum they disappeared from the thread and didn't engage us while we lynched them.

Without going too much into detail me asking to be replaced in that game had nothing to do with the suspicion on me or my alignment. I would have done the same thing if I rolled town or was universally townread.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:22 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:41 am also, i find it curious you keep asking "who is my teammate" and not "who are my teammates". as a hypothetical question goes, i would have asked the latter as a civilian. how do we know there's only 2 scum in this setup and not 3? i never go into a game thinking there's only 2 bad guys. could be a slip of tmi there.
That's two tbh.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Do you honestly believe there are 3 scum in a setup of this size? That would be ridiculously unbalanced

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:16 am My read on leetic is microscopic but asking for partners doesn't make sense because I can say anyone could be partners with him except for like dunya and nutella. It's not like everyone stated a scumread on leetic, you know~?

It's not that everyone had a scumread on me. It's that no one made any significant efforts to change the thread climate when it was against me (e.g. by defending me or trying to go after a different target).

For Jack, it was his "leetic what have you done" post. It didn't provide a judgement on what was going on, it didn't try to get involved with what was going on, it more read like someone who was just content to watch what was happening. Also, he disappeared when I questioned him on it.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point

It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information

*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.
That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
Who's my partner?
How fast do games usually go here that you think people would even have an answer to this yet?

My point was that if you look there are few people if any who have partner equity with me. It was more a callout of the hastiness surrounding my wagon.

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~

Who's my partner?

To everyone who thinks I am scum: Who do you think is my partner? Everyone has posted, so you should be able to find them (that is, if they actually existed in the first place).

You know what else is weird? The fact that I have more posts so far than anyone else here and yet I am the wagon for some reason. What do people have against getting anything done?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:25 am @leetic

What have you done.

Also, this is a useless reaction. What do you mean, "what have you done". Seems a quick thing to say without having to commit to a side.

Alright, so with everyone showing up, guess how are defending me? 0. And no one besides myself has tried to bring up any targets other than me. If you think that this is what a D1 scum lynch looks like, then you are mistaken.

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:47 am This is scum Leeteuk after being caught from their first post~

What are you going to do when I flip town?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game

Sorry if I sound like Mikey for a moment but you should be aware of confirmation bias.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
I'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.

Pocketing attempt?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 am Looks like leetic is dead meat today. Cool. I can go do other things.
Even if this is likely sarcastic, I take issue with this, especially since you have yet to engage with anyone who isn't me. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Uh, if you're a civilian, you should absolutely take issue with this. Why does this require a special announcement and the "especially" that follows?'

Why exactly, should I take issue with this? Is it that you're scum who is trying to go for an easy mislynch?

Also, give me GTH reads on DS, dunya, and nutella so that you're doing something other than going for an easy target.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 am Looks like leetic is dead meat today. Cool. I can go do other things.

Even if this is likely sarcastic, I take issue with this, especially since you have yet to engage with anyone who isn't me. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:18 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:50 pm And also, I already have three votes on me when half the players didn't even show up, so there's that.
half the players = 3. jack, DS and jiwon. just pointing that out for my reference for future use. could be useful to me.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:10 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:57 pm what does that mean to you? are you teammates with epi cos you sorta totally ignored him, what's that about?
Why do you expect me to respond to a vote that clearly isn't serious? Do you expect me to say "no, actually I respect the bulge" or something stupid like that?
not really stupid. addressing a vote on you is always serious. you seem to be a defensive type of player (don't take it as a criticism, i am too), as evidenced by your series of posts. outside of your 1st post, the rest have all been self-defensive in nature. a vote on you should be a big deal. you don't even mention it when you announce you have "three votes on you" but now you're calling it "clearly not serious" which is a bit contrary. i find it as tho you are almost deliberately unhinged by epi and that is weird to me because he's a pretty scary person.

That is such a huge misrepresentation of my posts that I am not even going to respond to this any further.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:57 pm what does that mean to you? are you teammates with epi cos you sorta totally ignored him, what's that about?

Why do you expect me to respond to a vote that clearly isn't serious? Do you expect me to say "no, actually I respect the bulge" or something stupid like that?

Wait, that was nutella that said that, never mind. But my other point still stands, and also that you are singling out me instead of her.

And also, I already have three votes on me when half the players didn't even show up, so there's that.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:20 pm leetic made 3 major mistakes.

1. his first entrance was to cast shade on someone about something that was already shaded by another person. piggybacking with a "safe" opinion. or that's what he thought.

Isn't that exactly what you're doing?

3. he didn't vote. a lot of hot air, no putting his money where his fingers type. bad.

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

You didn't vote either with your post that you admit is shading. So it's okay when you do it, but not when I do it. Not liking this. [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:57 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:55 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:59 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

you are in three games at the same time! i say you gotta be bad in one of them, and why not this one.
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

So, with your limited posts, you used one to make this "witty" response? Seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:59 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

you are in three games at the same time! i say you gotta be bad in one of them, and why not this one.

This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

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