The Syndicate

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It was very weird. Everyone suspected Roxy for days, and was all up her face that last day, then she reveals she is talking to Aces, and everyone lost their shit, lol.

Like this person they were so suspicious of says this guy who has all the votes is A-OK, and suddenly a mad rush to save him ensues. Since Roxy & I were grouped together as bad in the beginning of the game by some people, I am not as sure of the case on her as some. But that whole thing was way strange.

Welcome Devin

I want to reread BF/Timmer, especially day 1 & 2 today. He said something to me about Timmer, something that Timmer said that BF thought had to do with his own role, and Night One targets. Now that I know what his role actually is, perhaps I can make sense of that. BFs thoughts on Timmer were part of the reason I was not 100% trusting BF. As I said, I trusted him for the most part, but that one thing was weird.

I have to read and think about this. And make a post about it before night ends

Sunday, 6:10 PM

timmer wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Timmer what do you think of BF?

Why isn't llama answering this? There's a chance I'm going to vote for BF. His suspicions seem too easy, and have you noticed that he focuses on one player per day? It's like he doesn't need to bother himself with commenting on all the rest because he already has a suspect. In my opinion, that's usually more a baddie tell than a civvie one

I just did a complete reread of BF.

About the only really ping-y thing i could see was his "wtf?" reaction to how the Bass 1.0 lynch went down. For the rest, I've got an alignment in mind for him, and he seems to be pursuing leads as he sees them. I'm not sure I could say he's bad, but I don't think he's an Old Rogue, either. I won't vote for him, but won't really be going out of my way to defend him, if that makes sense?

Sunday, 6:51 PM:

timmer wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Timmer if you had to vote right now who would you vote for?

Well I'm not going to toss my vote or anything, so I'll likely go along with either the bf or DH lynch idea. Neither is great imo, BF's posts read a certain way, and DH's reply about Made is conflicting me, but neither of them feels like a civvie, so I don't think a lynch in their direction is necessarily bad.

In between these two posts, the only real mention of BF is Llamas mild "I dunno, I don't think he's bad" post. So not sure what got Timmer from 6:10 to 6:51 here.

You think voting for the thread leader is staying out of the line of fire?

BF was my one map partner. I trusted him for the most part. I wish I had defended him more, but I was worried it was like the Bass situation again, that I would stick up for him and he would be bad. That he fooled me.

Holy shit that sucks

Turnip Head wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Daisy definitely had the most votes.

Well she never seemed too concerned about dying if you ask me. How close was it, was she only ahead by a vote or two?

I want to say 2, but I don't know for sure. It did not occur to me to pay too much attention. I figured the poll would be saved but iirc 2.

Daisy definitely had the most votes.

For some reason I thought this ended tomorrow. I am voting for Timmer. He just feels insincere to me. I know that that is going to annoy him, but it is what it is.

Daisy had a few more votes than Aces, iirc.

I don't want to go for low posters, either. I was just wondering why DH picked one out as the place to start his hunt.

OH. I had one hell of a time figuring some of those out, lol.

Well, now that he is not on the poll, are you also having that thought about Reywas, ika or Soneji? Or still just Made?

DharmaHelper wrote:

S~V~S wrote:What about Reywas, Soneji, Ika; all also still alive and not saying one hell of a lot. How did you decide on Made, not them, as the missing killer, DH?

I don't. But the hunt has to start someplace.

Wow. Kinda arbitrary, eh? Since Made was not on the poll, why did you not start the hunt elsewhere?

What about Reywas, Soneji, Ika; all also still alive and not saying one hell of a lot. How did you decide on Made, not them, as the missing killer, DH?

Can you lay it out for me, your reasons for wanting to lynch me? I get Aces reasons, but I am less clear on yours.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Make a case then. timmer'm as hard to understand as you want me to be.

yah I have noticed - and no I will not be making a case until you are not cursed - I do not play that way - sorry.

Why did you stop using pictures so you could be understood?

Because it's annoying, and timmer've been playing on the phone the majority of the time this weekend.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:timmer is starting to get the feeling that timmer actually wants to be lynched today.

Can you be a bit more precise, MM? It's obnoxious, I know, but "Timmer thinks Timmer is voting for Timmer cause timmer timmer" lost it's charm about 48 hours ago

timmer'm not trying to be charming.

Well, all righty then. Perhaps when this curse is done, you can summarize what you said, becasue i have no idea who/what you are talking about. You might still do what LC said, and using the poll, assign numbers to people. Aces could be 1, bass could be 2, etc. that would be annoying both for you & us, but it would be decipherable and easier than pictures. Since Made is not on there, he could be "pi"

Ebwop, I mean you can't be enjoy being misconstrued and questioned, right?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:timmer is starting to get the feeling that timmer actually wants to be lynched today.

Can you be a bit more precise, MM? It's obnoxious, I know, but "Timmer thinks Timmer is voting for Timmer cause timmer timmer" lost it's charm about 48 hours ago

If you would rather not, then why post? I am sure you have made any quota you need to make

A word of advice re the map, try to get to the rails. Try to get to the switchyard. That is all.

Also, gotta catch up to last nights drunk Mafia a thon, sorry I missed it. I had an exhausting day yesterday and just plopped in front of the TV last night . I finally started Orphan Black, and it's pretty awesome, Thanks to those that recommended it

I plan to reread Aces, Timmer & Roxy today~ it would seem one must take a side on this issue. I am leaning towards trusting Roxy (although I am NEVER trusting her boy Bass ever again ).

It was very paranoid & crazy in here. Suddenly everyone was like "Save Aces!", even though like 5 minutes before it was like, "Roxy is bad! And if she is, so is Aces!"

It was just crazy, lol. I was so afraid of lynching another civvie, and I was sooo happy no one died, and we would have more time to sort it out.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Me too. I enjoy getting the opportunity to post pictures of high horses.

Passion is good.

Who are timmer even talking to?

Timmer.

He got passionate, I told him to get off his high horse, and then posted a picture of a high horse. It was fun. Timmer apologized for getting his panties in a twist, and the post you quote was me saying, "no worries". The Lorb only knows I get MY panties bunched like all the time

Been a busy day, gotta read.

Me too. I enjoy getting the opportunity to post pictures of high horses.

Passion is good.

YAY!!! Nobody has been lynched, that was the perfect solution.

Whew~

Welcome back llama

Give us letters, K? But NOT "K"? All right?

timmer wrote:

S~V~S wrote:If you guys are wrong, I am gonna be so pissed at you. Very seriously.

Uhm, no one has responsibility for your vote but you. I take all blame for my own vote if I'm wrong, I don't take blame for yours!

For the record SVS, regarding Roxy, my opinion of her was based on several things, two of which were her reluctance to talk about Aces, and her mystery BTSC partner. Had i known the two were one and the same, the situation would have looked very different earlier on. My feelings were based on her responses, but they could have been different, but once that info came out into the open, I altered course accordingly.

I may have seemed all over the place today, but it's been (hopefully) for the good.

Um, I know that. You can step away from the High Horse now. Give Whinney a carrot

I meant that *everyone* was all in a "Save Aces" frenzy. Aces is awesome, but he wanted me dead. That whole last few minutes was SO FUCKED UP. So yeah, I am responsible for my own vote. And your reply sounds like a massive cop out, since manipulating each other is what makes us good at this game.

If you guys are wrong, I am gonna be so pissed at you. Very seriously.

Ditto. I really only voted him cause he is Not Me and Timmer would go there.

Daisy *gulp*

I mean, I don't want to die, but i don't want to lynch a civ either.

AceofSpaces wrote:

timmer wrote:@Aces, if you are an Old Rogue please don't self-vote. If you are bad, or even an indy, well, do what ya gotta do. But if you are an Old Rogue, I'd request that you move your vote, please! Don't throw in the towel!

So you see anyone else with four votes? If you do, please point them out, and I'll move my vote to them.

Of the people voting for me, I'd like you all to look closest at SD. Her reason was so weak, she didn't even both to get the day's of my votes right. And also at Long Con, who decided to harp on my one bad vote, but completely ignored Daisy when she did basically the same thing. Except I think SD it on purpose, and mine was an honest case of me not paying enough attention.

We can move votes around. If we can reach a consensus we still have time.

timmer wrote:In light of Roxy's map partner being Aces, I can't support an Aces lynch anymore. If people aren't behind a Roxy lynch, I'd also offer up a SpaceDaisy lynch as analternative. Roxy, why did you wait so long to reveal this?

You think she's lying about other things, but not about this?

TBH, if I was not worried about dying myself, I would vote for you, lol. You are really the sketchiest person in this thread, IMO.

Aces why did you vote for yourself?

Linki, nvm

I went with Aces, he had more votes, plus this all seems so last second and so circumstantial.

Did we ever find out who the Map Chat partner is?

Well played by Timmer, softening his image with cute kitty pics

And I find I am doing the very same thing yet again, getting defensive of Roxy cause <3

Although she sounds very reasonable.

I need to look at less cute pictures.

Your point about Aces still stands though, right? With only 2 hours he already has votes?

I want to hear from Roxy or the elusive chat evader. There could be another silencer based on the tildes.

blindfaeth wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Timmer, can you spell it out for me like I'm stupid, why that changes your perception of roxy? Does it mean she led about being silenced?

Come on. If I can figure it out I know you can.

Rude, not sad about your lynch anymore

I thought he was saying you were smarter than him? Why is this rude?

And Timmer, since at this stage since either Roxy or her BTS partner have to come forward, and Aces fits my "not me" criteria, I will strongly consider it.

I so wish we had not lynched llama. There are a few 7 letter words starting with S in the tildes. I would think someone faux silencing woulday attention to the odd/even thing.

Link I, someone who is not me. My suspects, other than TH, have not changed. Tbh in this game I distrust way more people than I trust. But I am expecting to need to save.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:But there are no edits in the !moderator log?

The tildes definitely were not there at the beginning, so

Maybe it only logs edits on other peoples posts? And he did updates the letters.

But there are no edits in the !moderator log?

In the submission thread it says even. As far as I can tell this thread has not been edited.

I have every intention of voting.

And Bullz you make me sound pathetic, Lol. But if the shoe fits I guess. I gotta start working on getting my mean on.

FZ, had Bass flipped civ, I would have been roasting TH. But he didn't. And his voting record pinged the crap out of me. But I was wrong about Bass, and him flipping bad made me revise my views on TH.

Thta's a good question. I have only had a Map Chat with one person, and don't think anything we said would be particularly edifying, but other chats may have had a few twists.

I myself have been pinged like hell by LC since his leadup to the Llama vote, even before Llama flipped civ. But his general demeanor feels civ to me, even if his words do not, so I am in the air about him. Certainly I can understand what Diasy is saying, and while I am not anywhere near as sure as she is, I also do not think she is suspicious for saying what she says.

I certainly also thought Aces Day Two vote seemed somewhat odd to me. BUT I have no intention of voting for him unless I have to save. I can see civ reasons for his actions vote-wise as well as the potential bad ones. A lot of the theorizing in this game has been predicated on baddies BTSC, but, at least initially, there is just as much civ/civ aligned BTSC to account for sudden suspicion changes not necessarily being suspect.

Looking at the other people with votes, I don't particularly suspect Bullz or DH either. If DH was bad, he would have cozened me a bit more, since he knows I respond to it, especially right after I behaved like textbook me by trusting Bass. He would have ignored my vote, and not been the one to shine light on it. I am still missing the Bullz thing. And I think his game has been all about defense, so he can't act normally, so he is basically being judged on his reaction to a Day One ping. This is something I understand intimately. In any case, if I did not potentially need to save, I would not be voting for any of them.

I should be home tonight; if I do have to go do anything automotive (Dad has called in his mechanic, so I don't know) I will remember to bring my tablet & charger. Last night I couldn't even really check on phone since I needed to preserve my battery.

And yeah, TH is right. I really need to stop trusting people I feel somewhat protective about.

Guys, I am so sorry I was not here tonight, I am having some horrible car issues, and spent the whole night with my Dad & his friends, passing them wrenches & holding flashlights for them while they try to figure out why my car stopped working

Will be more present tomorrow.

And I still am not bad

Your gut is in error.