The Syndicate

and a PS, to remind DH~ I did this exact thing in a game recently. GoC, when the person I did not think was bad, and said so, WAS bad. And it was YOU, DH. So you should know what this looks like more than anyone.

timmer wrote:I'm so sorry MM, I really can't follow this, lol.

Interesting that Epig was apparently killed by an Old Rogue, I was starting to believe he WAS one,so I'll just trust that that role knows what they are doing.

Regarding DH and SVS... I am getting sleepy and must head to bed, but tomorrow I've got a lot of rereading to do, to find all of the people who weren't keen on a Bass lynch. it won't mean that they are all bad, but it will provide some insights.

And finally regarding Roxy, I've moved to a bit more of a neutral stance on her, I believe she may be an indy and I don't think I will be pursuing a lynch in her direction today.

Perhaps he could start using avatar descriptions instead of names? Like Film Maker for you, or White Troll for me? Or pictures if he can't describe it? There are ways around that, I think. Or as LC says, he could use numbers. Unless he is intentionally trying to be unintelligible, which I am beginning to suspect, based on the post you quoted.

As for DH & I, it is just DH. I have no opinion on him. We can never read each other, and have never been able to. I thought that spending most Saturday afternoons together playing D & D might have helped us both read each other better, but it hasn't. It HAS taught us both to get along better, I think, so we no longer wrench whole threads out of whack while we are misreading each other, lol, but we don't really "know" each other any better than we ever did.

He believes I was actively defending Bass 1.0. I was not; I mistakenly did not believe that he was bad. DH is mistaken.

DharmaHelper wrote: Vote=SVS

Have fun with that. You're wrong

No more than I do for anyone I am not convinced is bad. I did not think any of the three was bvad, Indeed, I based my vote on my belief that he was not bad, lol.

DharmaHelper wrote:In the event I am unable to continue to press my SVS suspicion for whatever reason, here it is as bare-bones yet comprehensive as I can make it:

1. SVS (to borrow a phrase) "glomped" onto FZ's questioning of my vote, which felt odd to me. Taken by itself it is not damning evidence however; SVS is 90% likely to jump down my throat at any given game for any given reason. When I looked into it, that cracked the suspicion wide open for me.

2. SVS Made several Pro-Bass posts. She tried to downplay these as instead "not particularly suspicious of Bass" posts. As I pointed out, she called him "civvie-ish", called the lynch against him sketchy several times (awful, not feeling it, etc), and outright advocated on his behalf with regards to TH. These are not the actions of someone who considers Bass "not particularly suspect". Her downplaying of these remarks rings untrue to me. For example, she would have us believe that calling Bass's actions "civvie-ish" wasn't meant to imply that she thought he was a civ. Well, that's just plain susp-ish.

I've pulled several quotes already, and highlighted a lot of what I've talked about in this post, so I encourage you to go back and look at those if you have any questions regarding what it is SVS did and did not say.

In closing, There are two scenarios I can see that account for SVS's behavior.

1. She is Blacksmith and either recruited Bass N1 or planned to recruit him after seeing what Timmer pointed out
2. She is bad and wanted to keep Bass alive, so that they could get recruited together down the line.

OR I am a civ who did not think he was bad

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Ask me if Bass has fooled me in the past. Ask LC; he saw Bass totally schnocker me in The Island game.
There's a big difference between being fooled and actively, aggressively defending someone.
I wasn't aggressively defending him. I didn't suspect him. Or Bullz. Or BF. Totally different. You're reading into it. FAR into it.
I pointed out several instances wherein you were doing specifically that, so I have to disagree here. Also, nice try but Bullz/BF are irrelevant.
No, it isn't irrelevant. At one point they were toed, and it was a very tense last hour.
It's irrelevant because you weren't blatantly trying to defend BF or Bullz.

I wasn't blatantly defending anyone. I didn't think he was bad. I was wrong. But I am not his teammate.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Ask me if Bass has fooled me in the past. Ask LC; he saw Bass totally schnocker me in The Island game.
There's a big difference between being fooled and actively, aggressively defending someone.
I wasn't aggressively defending him. I didn't suspect him. Or Bullz. Or BF. Totally different. You're reading into it. FAR into it.
I pointed out several instances wherein you were doing specifically that, so I have to disagree here. Also, nice try but Bullz/BF are irrelevant.

No, it isn't irrelevant. At one point they were toed, and it was a very tense last hour.

Long Con wrote:Would S~V~S, FZ, or Rabbit check Bass on Night 1, if they were Blacksmith?

Not night one, but he would be on my short list. Night one I would check you, BR, Rabbit or Roxy, most likely. I would think Rabbit would have a somewhat similar list. FZ I can't guess who she would check.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Ask me if Bass has fooled me in the past. Ask LC; he saw Bass totally schnocker me in The Island game.
There's a big difference between being fooled and actively, aggressively defending someone.

I wasn't aggressively defending him. I didn't suspect him. Or Bullz. Or BF. Totally different. You're reading into it. FAR into it.

Ask me if Bass has fooled me in the past. Ask LC; he saw Bass totally schnocker me in The Island game.

I said his fighting felt civvie-ish to me. It did. That isn't calling him a civvie.

You are stretching here.

What specifically is "pro Bass" as opposed to "not particularly suspicious of Bass" about these posts?

EBWOP~ just because a person is proven correct about a suspicion, does not make suspicions leading up to that point invalid. Had i known Bass was bad, then I would have lauded your wisdom. I didn't, so I questioned your vagueness.

Yes, DH, then when you FINALLY explained it, I said, "Thank You, DH" and backed off.

LC, I did not see the case on any of the three, really. So since the votes were so close, I chose not to vote for any of them. I did not feel any of them were bad strongly enough to commit to it in a tight vote. Two, not three, really, since BF was never as serious lynch contender as Bullz or Bass.

I also said that THs reasons for voting Lllama were weak. I thought I was seeing a pattern of weak suspicions, that, for me, characterize bad TH. So 50/50 for me this game, since he was right on Bass, wrong on llama.

Linki, yes, DH, and as soon as you replied, I sais "Thank You" and never mentioned it again. I thought you were being vague. I have no info, so while hindsight is 20/20, at that time, your vagueness caught my eye.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:If it were me, I'd go back and look at SVS and FZ since they both practically jumped down my throat after I voted Bass.
Nah, that would be pointless.

And I thought your vote was vague (and it WAS). Then when you explained it, I said, "Thank You DH" and never brought it up again.
Your enthusiasm in the matter was noted, and notably suspect, given the results of the lynch.

What enthusiasm? I thought your vote was vague. I said so. You are making it into something it is not.

DharmaHelper wrote:If it were me, I'd go back and look at SVS and FZ since they both practically jumped down my throat after I voted Bass.

Nah, that would be pointless.

And I thought your vote was vague (and it WAS). Then when you explained it, I said, "Thank You DH" and never brought it up again.

I think you did kinda take that out of context, BF. I think the waiting has us on edge, Lol. We're all just a little bit jumpy.

Yeah, we all know I have no standards

Turnip Head wrote:Sorry my suspicion is weak by your standards SVS, and I agree, I wish I had more reasoning behind a vote. I think it's going to be difficult to pin down the disparate baddies in this game because they likely don't have much BTSC yet. But weak suspicions does not a baddie turnip make, and I'm sure my reads will get stronger as the game advances. I just don't feel strongly about much yet and my top suspect today is still silenced, so there's that.

I do think there's something to Bass bringing up the outlier votes but not fully following through with it, but I admit it's not a very strong case. Just what caught my eye the most today.

I think it was weak by your standards, not mine.

...ika & made?

Who hasn't voted? Sophie, BWT & reywaS?

timmer wrote:@long con, could you expand on your bf vote? Rabbit feels a bit like he is being forced and also is calling you out. And you vote along with him. Can you expand on your thoughts regarding that?

This ^^

And FZ, for me weak suspicion TH is bad TH. I am fairly sure this is how he views me too (and he's right, tbh). He ha had my attention ever since he applied to be Epis sidekick. Still not sure about Epi, but not AS sure as I was yesterday.

Linki~ I would also like to know what happened to Aces suspicion of me.

I am not feeling any of the B-Boy votes.

I am going to vote for Turnip Head. I think his reasons for voting Llama were weak, I think his reasons for voting Bass are weak, too. TH takes voting seriously, and puts lots of thought into his votes when he's a civ, even if he does not post every thought. Todays vote i can get, he is working, he's is playing the Champs game, he's stretched thin. But his Llama vote was weaker than I expect from TH, even for Day 1.

I don't expect him to get lynched, but I want him to know I'm paying attention

Bass, if you did not have to worry about saving yourself, who would you vote for?

DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I'm going to call shenanigans though, where do these oddball left field lynches keep coming from? The majority of mentions for bass have been in like the last 30 mins.
That might be true, but it's almost the end of the day, and with a lack of a good lynch candidate, there will be more gut voting than usual.

Damn, I need to make up my mind

linki: DH, what's his baddie game?

Why the

? How is this like his baddie game?

Turnip Head wrote:Bass you mentioned the 6 outsider votes but I don't see you pursuing that lead any further with specific suspects. That's why it feels like you're just casting a wide net and letting other players do the dirty work.

Do you rally think that's so odd for Day 2?

I am not sure on Bullz, and I don't think BF is bad. I am not seeing the case on Bass, either. Especially the way this lynch is forming up, this feels awful, lol.

Linki ~ last time we lynched Sophie for being too quiet, she was just a busy civ. So maybe that's it.

Linki~ why, LC?
Linki~ Thank DH. At least I can understand that, although I am not sure I agree.

These are some pretty vague votes, tbh.

Yeah, FZ. I would like to see what he's talking about.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Switching my vote to Bass, because I don't want to vote for myself or Roxy, and from what I have been reading/paying attention to I don't trust Bass.
Why don't you trust him?
He doesn't seem honest.
Don't cheat me a good answer. What doesn't seem honest?

I would like the answer to this. He's fighting pretty hard not to be cheated (

) which feels pretty civvie-ish to me.

Lol phone post FTL ha ha

Metalmarsh89 wrote:PLAYER POSTS

AceofSpaces
Bass_the_Clever
birdwithteeth11
Black Rock
blindfaeth
Bullzeye
DFaraday - DEAD
DharmaHelper
Epignosis
fingersplints - DEAD
FZ.
ika
Long Con
Made
Metalmarsh89
rabbit8
reywaS
Roxy
Soneji
Sophie
Spacedaisy
S~V~S
thellama73 - DEAD
Turnip Head
timmer Elohcin

Players who have not posted since Day 1.

birdwithteeth11 - Has not posted since Day 1 (Friday).
ika - Also has not posted since Day 1 (Thursday).
Made - Also has not posted since Day 1 (Friday).
rewyaS - Also has not posted since Day 1 (Friday).
Roxy - Also has not posted since Day 1 (Friday).
Spacedaisy - Also has not posted since Day 1 (Thursday).

Other players who have not posted today.

AceofSpaces - Has not posted since Night 1 (Saturday).

Due to so many players not posting today, (and not even during Night 1 for that matter), my guess is that the map BTSC, or some other map-related function, may shut down in-thread chatter. 6 players haven't posted since Night 1 began, which I believe is when our movements were due by.

Then there is Aces who did post on Night 1.

Well, Roxy appears to be silencedsilenced. And people posted in map games I played in the past.

Ebwop, No wait, I think that was secret speculation about magentas role?

DharmaHelper wrote:
DH was annoyed. He also expressed dissatisfaction with llama not refuting speculation. In a later post, DH said he would pull some quotes after his reread, but he did not do this. He spent the rest of the time making fun of me.
Well, that's certainly a well put lie.

I pulled a quote, as I promised I would. I didn't pull every single quote, but I didn't need to.

DH, who was this a quote from? On phone and I can't find it. Thanks

Linki, Magenta can gain BTS with them, so they would seem to have BTS

FZ. wrote:
timmer wrote:@FZ, certainly think what you want to think. I mean sure, if I were bad and felt that Eloh had stumbled a bit in her response to Epig and no one had really noticed or paid attention to it, it would make perfect sense to bring it up myself and point it... no, wait, actually it wouldn't?

Maybe I've got a civ role, and did an honest read through of the game, including my own predecessor's posts? You don't think that would make a wee bit more sense?
First, If you really caught up like you claim, you would have seen that a few people said Eloh's reply was fishy (TH and I come to mind as an example of those people), so claiming no one paid attention to it, would be either a lie or negligence.
Second, it obviously did make sense to bring it up yourself because other than me, I see no one really looking at you as a suspect (maybe Sophie, considering her last post). Like I said, I think it was a tactic to make you look good, and it seems like it did pay off.

Yeah, I recall when TH was asked why he would bring it up himself, my first thought was, "Well, just so people would say things just like that!"

After the intensity (for me at least) of the last lynch, I decided to take a step back today and plan to consider all cases, not just my own. I may still vote for Epi, but we'll see. I am caught up to current events, and hope to do some specific rereading today.

I am looking at Epi, LC & maybe sorta Timmer. That is where I want to reread. I would liken Timmer more to Bullz, really, than anyone. Bad or good. He can get a bit of an intense edge in a very similar way, but overall he is level & logical. My feelings on LC are hard to quantify, he is saying things that make me distrust him, but does not have that hearty, faux cheery demeanor I associate with bad LC. So it could just be paranoia.

Also, I know Soneji is new to our ways & polls. But where he plays, unvoting is the norm. So not sure why he would think it was OK to not so something of the sort here. At least announce his intentions.

Even I figured none of the Detectives voted for Llama, but the other part of Epis post was something I had not considered.

I kinda have the feels that BF/Bullz can be civ/civ. I am not seeing anything alarming from BF, and Bullz seems pretty sincere. Having just seen baddie rage from him in HSK, this looks different to me, this feels more indignant. Less angry. More civ. Like everything else, God knows I could be wrong

FZ, and that is also possible. I am just trying to wrap my head around the whole "Well, I decided to kill her regardless" aspect of this, and WHY he would do that rather than saying, "Hey Elo, I know you don't really want to play, why not let Timmer have your spot?". I guess I just don't understand it at all.

@LC, all I have been doing is speculating. I am trying to figure this whole thing out. It doesn't smell right to me, and I am going to try to figure it out, which means playing with different ideas.

Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, I think it is clear that I think Epi is fibbing. So
I'm sorry to keep going on this, but I'm still not clear - you think Epig and Eloh/Timmer do have BTSC? And that Epig was doing a charitable "throw her under the bus" with her blessing, with the dual goal of getting Epig cred, and getting Eloh free of a game she wasn't invested in?

Actually, I do think this is very clear. Like I said, it's a speculation feel, not thread based. Sorry if I am not willing to commit to a speculation to the extent that you may like. It is possible. It is also possible that she was a civ. We need to judge Timmer based on Timmer right now. That was my feeling based solely off of Epis posts. A gut feel. As I said, a speculation feel. I am not married to it, I think it is possible.

And Epi seemed pretty sure. I still don't think he's a civ based on how he handled the whole "let's lynch Elo" thing, but that does not make him wrong. I think it is possible, while it is also possible that she was NOT bad, I find that less likely. The fact that Timmer came out against people who suspected Epi for trying to lynch HIM kinda gave me that feel. But it is a speculation feel. No basis in thread.

Linki~ very true. That Monkey thing was annoying, but it did not make him bad.

Well, I think it is clear that I think Epi is fibbing. So

*answered

I am=nswered that here LC. At the bottom, I did not quote it.

S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I was thinking Epi may have been throwing her under the bus for that cred.
Can you explain this thought? I usually see "throwing someone under the bus" as something a baddie does to their teammate for the cred you speak of. I don't really see how it applies to the Epig-Eloh situation.
Can you stop skirting around SVS' question and answer why you think suspecting Epi is suspicious? Why do you seem to be so convinced he's not bad?
I never said that I think suspecting Epi is suspicious. I don't. All I did was ask why people are suspecting S~V~S and Roxy for being aggressive against Epig, and not mentioning Metalmarsh, when my read of his posts shows he was doing the same thing.
But he was not. You mainly seemed to be lumping us all together, when he was not saying the same things we were. He mainly only had the same suspicion.

Also, iirc, Splints was also on that same page, but was killed by the baddies. So

And Epi seemed pretty sure. I still don't think he's a civ based on how he handled the whole "let's lynch Elo" thing, but that does not make him wrong. I think it is possible, while it is also possible that she was NOT bad, I find that less likely. The fact that Timmer came out against people who suspected Epi for trying to lynch HIM kinda gave me that feel. But it is a speculation feel. No basis in thread.

TH, I want to take a more circumspect approach today. Plus there is more than one baddie. I was thinking to play more in the vote/unvote style of our newer members, but I never got around to unvoting, lol. I think i am too "focus-y" with suspicions to do well with that style.

@Timmer~ you have played with me before, right

? That is generally how I do it. I see it, I believe it, I don't turn back. I have tried to change that about my game, but it is just my personality, not really a tactic, imo. It's what I do. Full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. It has gotten me in trouble irl as well as in Mafia games.

Turnip Head wrote:Do you still think Epi is bad, SVS? Is anyone else jockeying for your vote right now?

I really do. I don't think Epi, as someone who has extensively hosted, would attempt to lynch Elo under the circumstances, when someone else had tried to sign up for the game hours before it started, if he was a civvie. He said that was his plan before the game even started (he said he would NK her if he had a kill, so that means he decided on this course before he got his role, right?) so he was planning to get her lynched civ or not. I can't accept this as something a civ would do.

Since the suspicion of me seems to be coming from multiple directions right now, that clouds judgment a bit. Is it real, or is it a No U? I am not getting the warm fuzzies from LC. The way he reacted to discussion of Llama, automatically jumping to the conclusion that he had to be faking his civ game alarmed me a bit. I would like to hear Rabbits rationale for his thoughts on LC, as well. I would like to hear more from Soneji, his last minute switch with no discussion of reasoning got my eye.

What about you?

Linki~ and that is still the basis of why I think he is bad. I don't think he would have wanted her dead if she was a civ if HE was a civ, you see my point?

timmer wrote:
Long Con wrote:A read of Metalmarsh's posts shows that he was (and still is, I think) a big proponent of Epig's lynch. For those who suspect S~V~S and Roxy, how do you feel about Metalmarsh? MM, what's your opinion of those two ladies at this time?
There were several people who questioned Epig's methods on Day 1, and seemed good with his potential lynch. i highlighted Roxy and SVS above the others because they both seemed to be trying to keep the lynch focused on him, more than people like MM were.

But now it looks like Roxy is silenced? Looking at the roles, the most likely silencer is Abra Kadabra, which makes for an interesting question... why would an indy with no apparent motives but survival silence a player who was taking a bit of heat? The only thing I can think of is that there is a chance that Roxy IS that role and did this to herself. It's a ton of conjecture, and there may be other roles who can silence, I just don't see it. But I won't be voting Roxy today, anyway.

Um, I tried to keep the lynch focused on him becasue I believe he is bad. Isn't that what the point of this game is?

I would not say cheating, I would say unsportsmanlike. People do fake this kind of thing to avoid lynching, but since Rox has done so herself in the past not sure she would do it again.

Since people are lumping us together, I feel it is bad for me, although I know we have no actual connection. With her silenced, I will be looked at more. But nevertheless, I am not comfortable with a vote for her just in case. But I think incapacitating people then lynching them is kinda mean.

But yeah, "cheating" is too strong a word.

Long Con wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I was thinking Epi may have been throwing her under the bus for that cred.
Can you explain this thought? I usually see "throwing someone under the bus" as something a baddie does to their teammate for the cred you speak of. I don't really see how it applies to the Epig-Eloh situation.
Can you stop skirting around SVS' question and answer why you think suspecting Epi is suspicious? Why do you seem to be so convinced he's not bad?
I never said that I think suspecting Epi is suspicious. I don't. All I did was ask why people are suspecting S~V~S and Roxy for being aggressive against Epig, and not mentioning Metalmarsh, when my read of his posts shows he was doing the same thing.

But he was not. You mainly seemed to be lumping us all together, when he was not saying the same things we were. He mainly only had the same suspicion.

Also, iirc, Splints was also on that same page, but was killed by the baddies. So

And Epi seemed pretty sure. I still don't think he's a civ based on how he handled the whole "let's lynch Elo" thing, but that does not make him wrong. I think it is possible, while it is also possible that she was NOT bad, I find that less likely. The fact that Timmer came out against people who suspected Epi for trying to lynch HIM kinda gave me that feel. But it is a speculation feel. No basis in thread.

EBWOP~ and yes, I did see Timmers post, and Aces. I believe Aces to be misguided. Still not sure about Timmer. I was thinking Epi may have been throwing her under the bus for that cred. Maybe not, not sure. But in any case, I totally disagree with their posts since I am not bad, but it is not easy to refute opinion

And like Bullz, I play my baddie game most of the time. Oddly it gets me in trouble more when i am civ than otherwise, but it is what it is. I found it impossible to play my civ game as a baddie, so I switched it up that way instead.

Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:A read of Metalmarsh's posts shows that he was (and still is, I think) a big proponent of Epig's lynch. For those who suspect S~V~S and Roxy, how do you feel about Metalmarsh? MM, what's your opinion of those two ladies at this time?
Why is suspecting epi suspicious?
Well, Timmer already said why he finds you and Roxy suspicious, and I assume you read his post. I curious as to why he would omit Metalmarsh from that suspicion and focus just on you two, when it looked to me like MM was doing the same thing.

And wow Roxy, Lol. I think she's trying to tell us something.
Yeah... that's the loudest silencing I have ever seen!

That isn't what I asked; I asked why suspecting Epi is suspicious. The only thing MM had in common with us was that suspicion. So why is that suspicious?

Not me, us. Now you have posted on top of her in a few threads, but when i came in this AM, she was the last poster in every forum except locked ones, and this one, lol. The last post column is a sea of red.

i don't see a direct silencer, but several roles have tildes that could be "silence".

Long Con wrote:A read of Metalmarsh's posts shows that he was (and still is, I think) a big proponent of Epig's lynch. For those who suspect S~V~S and Roxy, how do you feel about Metalmarsh? MM, what's your opinion of those two ladies at this time?

Why is suspecting epi suspicious?

And wow Roxy, Lol. I think she's trying to tell us something.

S~V~S wrote:Was Llama good or bad in the Morlock game? I can't recall, I think I have to go look.

Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Was Llama good or bad in the Morlock game? I can't recall, I think I have to go look.
He was Professor X, a civilian.

thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Was Llama good or bad in the Morlock game? I can't recall, I think I have to go look.
For some reason, people thought my not being interested in anything besides being King of the Morlocks was somehow sinister and they lynched me for it.

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.

This was how the Llama/X Men thing started, DH. Not exactly "leading a train". YOU started that train, iirc. After this I made two posts where I was wishy washy. Like how Llama does this to amuse himself when he has no BTS, which does not mean much in this game. Personally he looked exactly like he did in that game to me. But it is possible as well that he was doing it on purpose as some thought, which is pretty much all I said about the situation.

Don;t be blaming me for this one, the five people who voted him at the end, when Epi was clearly in the lead, are where the fingers should be pointing (not even at you, tbh). If finger pointing needs to be done.

I agree, which is one of the reasons I can't see him being a civ. I don;t think a civ Epi would have throw an unknown role under the bus that way unless he KNEW she was bad. I just don't.

And yeah, I am one of them. Several people, llama voters iirc, have mentioned me in a negative way

I have stuff to do shortly, and ~ not sure how long I will be afk. Will be back by tonight.

Timmer, he said this:

Epignosis wrote:Since it has been touched on already, and even though I was trying to be tactful, I will just spell it out.

I got lynched in HSK the day before spring break started for us. I had no Mafia during spring break (I'm sorry- I don't consider LMS Mafia), and was bummed. Flash had been in sign-ups for weeks. Eloh signed up so her pouting husband could have something fun to do. I decided I would kill her Night 1 if I could, or, if that couldn't happen, I would try to get her lynched.

That's right. My wife loves me, and I'm trying to kill her.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

I say this because I'm not trying to play the Eloh expert, distract you from talking about me, be mean-spirited by going after my wife Day 1, or whatever else I've been accused of doing. She has a gazillion cakes to make, and she signed up so I could play.

That's my hidden agenda.

Thus, here I am trying to remove a player who probably is not vested in this, and who I do not think has BTSC (and is therefore unlikely to be one of the six Old Rogues), and I'm the one with the most votes.

The irony is not lost on me.

Addendum.

And in my book, saying you are trying to get someone lynched = killing them.

Epignosis wrote:I want to lynch Elohcin.

So I think either he KNEW she was bad and was going for the cred, which is impossible, how could he KNOW, even if he had an info role, there has been no night?? Or he did not care if she was bad, and was just lynching her to get her out of the game. Which does not strike me as a civvie move.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I don't know how I play, lol. So it always amazes me when others say they do. I'm a hot mess most days and have no clue at all. True story
Coolio, how do you feel about timmer and his responses today?

I think he sounds like Timmer. Generally hard to read for me. Someone I respect, but also someone I tend to distrust since he can fool me. Too early to say yet. But like I said up there ^^, unless Epi KNEW it for a fact, which he could not, I think Timmer deserves a fair shake, and will be a lot harder for Epi to lynch. Since I assume he is going to keep trying, since he was so sure Elo was bad

I don't know how I play, lol. So it always amazes me when others say they do. I'm a hot mess most days and have no clue at all. True story

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