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I feel better about Scotty than I do about Sabi. I’ll drop a vote on them. When they made that post, about Sean sounding “off”, then asking Sean if he was ok, that was weird.
It feels to me like there’s a whole lot of steering going on.Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:13 pm @Roxy hey I feel pretty good about my cleats but I’m not committed to tunnelling town.
But I think if you read the first, say, one and a half pages of today, there’s a ‘let’s carefully examine the wilgy train’ vibe and if there are no wolves in there trying to control the conversation in that direction I’ll be surprised. That’s my gut feel.
Bye Jack!
. No real read, I don't feel actively bad about her, also don't feel actively town
but someone, or a few someones, has said it's possible there is a bad in the inactives, and with so many of them, that's probably true. I really don't like bringing out of thread into the thread, but meh. Odds are one is bad, but if they don't post, who's to know?
Unless he always comes out of the gate so aggressively as a baddie, I'm not sure I see it. I'm saying that, mostly, I think. I am basing it on his game in Game 1. Early game he was kinda with his Wilgy shtick when he was even there. Then end game, he settled in and was very valuable to the town. He almost turned it around before the bads finally got rid of him. You can't base anyones value on Day 1, imo.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:31 amI think the issue with the old way of thinking that I haven't seen them bring up is rhe fact that we didn't know Wilgy was a civ, and he was far from socially clear.Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:37 am I think I've noticed a pattern--Older players would rather have a civ alive and no info, newer players would rather elim a civ and get the info. I've now successfully read all of you and expect praise. (I realize this is a surface level analysis, but I felt cool when I thought it and now I want to share.)
Those saying "I wish civ!Wigly was here" well... civ!Wilgy wasn't here yesterday. ???!Wigly was, unless you have tmi (if so, tell me more!)
That’s his only recent example of self meta.
TBH, this is the Golden I was waiting to see last game. It this isn’t his town game it’s a very good facsimile.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:58 amthought you were looking to drum up a new meta. What did that entail?
*Raises Hand*Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:55 amTell me how many people were scum reading me when the wolves killed them in anniversary?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:50 amoh okGolden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:46 amIt’s bad analysis
Well more than one mindset makes life interesting! Thanks for explaining.
Well, it’s not my meta. Civvie Wilgy was a valuable solving townie in the last game.
I get that, but a living active player is just as valuable if not more so. I hate ending someone’s game if it isn’t necessary.
No how is a dead townie better for the town than no death? A miselim might make for easier analysis, but I’d rather have Wilgy alive.
And I was trying to push the tie because I didn’t think either was bad enough to decide one way or the other.
And I was trying to push the tie because I didn’t think either was bad enough to decide one way or the other.
And I was trying to push the tie because I didn’t think either was bad enough to decide one way or the other.
Are you actually falling back on that? Do you do that every game? I doubt it.lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:37 pmdo you believe it explains my hyper fixation? or anything else about me? if yes then you should adjust your mental model of me, which therefore changes your read, but don't entirely drop read on me, simply see my actions from a different mindset that only you can create of mine. until then all I can do is talk more about the game which gives you more information in building a thought process that I follow
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:27 pm*hugs*
you too Marmot
and if I were older I'd definitely have been hit with an Aspergers diagnosis, I've been hit with an autism test when I was 4 and 17, dunno what happened while I was 4 but I got put into special ed until I wiggled out and took 12-14 AP's in hs
I am as well; the syndrome formerly known as Aspergers. Now stop trying to make me feel like a bad person, Golden.lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:20 pmbingoGolden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:19 pmHey Lucy, feel free to ignore this question if it’s too personal. It’s helpful for me.lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:58 pmoh, I just come off like that, usually people aren't really aware that i'm not constantly hyperfocused on one thing at a time (also this is disputed by my mom and brother lol)
You neurodiverse?
Now see, this makes you look MORE bad to me, trying to dismiss my concerns as trivial and not thought out. And that is not the case. I am thinking of just leaving the vote where it is, you're not in any danger.
Yes. Certainly, or I would not have posted about it multiple times. I felt it was opportunistic. I felt it was a false flag, trying to make a non suspicios thing seem suspicious, trying to focus suspicion on "not us" which is what mafia have to do in a game with no other baddies or third party.lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:01 pmdo you see a mafia reason for it?S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:59 pmIt seemed that way to me. I don't think it was shallow, I wrote about it at much more length in other places.
That did seem to me to be all you were interested in, though. And I could not see a town reason for it, like I said in another post, it felt exactly the same to me as if you mainly wanted to discuss people whose player name began with "S"; it had nothing to do with the thread. Golden gave me the impression that I was rude or uncharitable to you, and I am sorry if that is how I cam across. But it is what I felt.
I kind of still don't see a town reason for it. But i don't know you and perhaps I am judging unfairly.
Where would you have me vote instead, and why?
It seemed that way to me. I don't think it was shallow, I wrote about it at much more length in other places.
there are alot of OG players here in this game, and we used to have non-movable votes. One vote one time. So we can be more circumspect with our voting through habit, it's how we learned to play. We take voting a bit more seriously, even if we don't have to. Call us old fashioned. So to us, a busy thread is lots of posts, not lots of votes. That's why you might be getting someSabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pmD1 of g2 had 2 vote wagons everywhere when I commented about D1 being weirdS~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:30 pmI can see that. For me I would worry about my it being easier for my brother to catch me in a lie because he knows me, so i might low post for that reason. But disinterest is also a good possibility.
In any case, he's safe from me, I don't like to eliminate nubs on day one. But i really hope to hear more from him going forward. Or not, if he doesn't like it, that's cool, too.
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I need to read Sabi to understand why she's taking votes this fast. Personally, I see myself in Seanzie somewhat, he is somewhat chaotic, and I have always been a chaotic civvie. And at least part of the issue people have with Sean seems to be Sabis read of him. But I don't really think he's bad. And I think perhaps he saw the sincerity in my posts this AM and that changed his mind. Or whatever process he used, I've been deep in a tunnel, and one post someone made, sometimes one sentnce in that post, made me reconsider. In any case, tunnelling someone that hard, and then just throwing the arms up and saying, "Ooops, my bad! I was wrong", seems more of a civvie move than a baddie one to me.
I checked out the Game 2 thread of the anniversary games and Sabi was right about the day one high post count, they had 2k posts on day one, but only like 4500 for the whole game. But most of it seemed to be shit posting, fairly typical day one, just lots more of it. I certainly did not read the whole thing lol, just skimmed a bit. While we haven't had 2k posts, I think we have had alot of content for a super productive game going forward after Day One.
re that.Serious question; not necessarily about you, and certainly not meant in a rude way, but just about how Mafia is played currently.
I can see that. For me I would worry about my it being easier for my brother to catch me in a lie because he knows me, so i might low post for that reason. But disinterest is also a good possibility.
That's possible I suppose. Maybe that's why it surprises me maybe that people are listing Jack greener than you, but that is also colored by how *I* would feel in that situation, too. So hard to say.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:05 pmThinking about that in context of the game, you probably know more about how we play than we know about you. That's just a thought.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:01 pmIt was more recently than that, but maybe 6 or 7 years. I hear about all of you guys through the grapevine, aka your Mom.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:58 pmYou say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:56 pmHe knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.
It was more recently than that, but maybe 6 or 7 years. I hear about all of you guys through the grapevine, aka your Mom.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:58 pmYou say 'some time' as if it wasn't when I was practically an infant. That comes off mean, but I would argue I don't know anyone enough to imagine how they would play but my brother and mother.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:56 pmHe knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.
He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.
He changed his mind this AM. See how fast paced we are here?
This was the post I meant to post up above re Dennis v Jack reads.
Now see my thought was if *I* was bad, and was playing against my sibling in a game like this, I would be afraid to lie in front of them, figuring it would be easier for them to catch me than random strangers.
Yeah, I kinda had the opposite feels myself, although not sure how much that was influenced by Jacks Walter White avi lol. So I’d like to hear this too.Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:45 pmCan you elaborate? Specifically on why you think Jack is more town than me.
Thank you, Meta perspective is always good. I’ll take this and what Golden said into account. I’ll have a few hours after work to do some rereading and decide on a final vote.
