The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:I came back from work to find a post that I had started and never posted before I left. So I'll give it now.

Scotty wrote:What do you think of Serge?
I feel like he's Civ. Unless he's known for playing in a wacky way as his usual meta (which I'm not familiar with), I think his "vote with any leading bandwagon" statement isn't one a baddie would likely make. Also, he kept going with the dragon thing, whereas if he and I were bad and it was a BTSC faux pas, he'd be more likely to want to sweep it under the rug.

That's my thoughts on Serge, I see that he has a few votes now anyway.
I thought he was trying to make a joke of it, actually.

sig wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
sig wrote:I don't think Serge would be a good lynch choice today, I think we should lynch Zebra for her purposeful misconstruction of the events regarding my vote and her attempt to bandwagon me based on not just weak but, also faulty and obvious incorrect logic.
Zebra tends to read into things in a much more byzantine way than most ever could. I think this is fairly normal behavior for her. Plus I am not seeing much of a bandwagoning effort on her part.

Why do you think Serge is a poor choice, your thoughts on Zebra aside?
Okay then.

I'm wary of a Serge lynch since it appears he might be lynched just for being a low poster, yes it's day 1, but having that attitude in such a small game is very very dangerous. I dislike MPs vote on Serge for that reason, we really don't have much room for error this game and just going after low posters won't help much.
But none of the votes on him are on him for being a low poster, except MPs before Serge came in last night and posted. The people who are voting for him seem to be voting for him for things that he has said.

What do you think of what he has said?

linki, we have MacDougalls on the Emerald Isle as well

sig wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I am gonna make it a three way & vote for sig. Let someone else be the decider

You didn't answer my question from earlier, but you obviously are here

I am gonna make it a three way & vote for sig. Let someone else be the decider

Yeah, the civ BTS thing, I know. That is why I have not voted tbh.

Becasue I am pretty positive Serge does have BTS. Otherwise why rile up me? The person in this game who he has seen most as bad would have been Epi, and Epi was pretty convincing in Turf Wars. I would have been paranoid of him rather than me with his experience.

The thing that get me too, though, is how sig is mischaracterizing the points on Serge. I am going to read back a bit.

Long Con wrote:I came back from work to find a post that I had started and never posted before I left. So I'll give it now.

Scotty wrote:What do you think of Serge?
I feel like he's Civ. Unless he's known for playing in a wacky way as his usual meta (which I'm not familiar with), I think his "vote with any leading bandwagon" statement isn't one a baddie would likely make. Also, he kept going with the dragon thing, whereas if he and I were bad and it was a BTSC faux pas, he'd be more likely to want to sweep it under the rug.

That's my thoughts on Serge, I see that he has a few votes now anyway.

I thought he was trying to make a joke of it, actually.

sig wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
sig wrote:I don't think Serge would be a good lynch choice today, I think we should lynch Zebra for her purposeful misconstruction of the events regarding my vote and her attempt to bandwagon me based on not just weak but, also faulty and obvious incorrect logic.
Zebra tends to read into things in a much more byzantine way than most ever could. I think this is fairly normal behavior for her. Plus I am not seeing much of a bandwagoning effort on her part.

Why do you think Serge is a poor choice, your thoughts on Zebra aside?
Okay then.

I'm wary of a Serge lynch since it appears he might be lynched just for being a low poster, yes it's day 1, but having that attitude in such a small game is very very dangerous. I dislike MPs vote on Serge for that reason, we really don't have much room for error this game and just going after low posters won't help much.

But none of the votes on him are on him for being a low poster, except MPs before Serge came in last night and posted. The people who are voting for him seem to be voting for him for things that he has said.

What do you think of what he has said?

sig wrote:I don't think Serge would be a good lynch choice today, I think we should lynch Zebra for her purposeful misconstruction of the events regarding my vote and her attempt to bandwagon me based on not just weak but, also faulty and obvious incorrect logic.

Zebra tends to read into things in a much more byzantine way than most ever could. I think this is fairly normal behavior for her. Plus I am not seeing much of a bandwagoning effort on her part.

Why do you think Serge is a poor choice, your thoughts on Zebra aside?

Thats a good question; the only game we played together I played a really obvious civ game. I am not sure what he would have expected to learn from poking me.

I got the Captain Obvious joke when it was pointed out to me. And I don't think placing the same vote after the host told you to revote in a game with unchangeable votes makes you bad. It is rather an honorable thing to do, imo. Revoting and changing your vote would have looked worse to me, tbh. Almost like cheating.

And no LC, I am not getting nervous. And you trying to make me react won't make me nervous since I have nothing to be nervous about.

sig wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:sig no one believes that you didn't know there was another twenty-four hours. This is a side mission.
Then they didn't read the thread before what we thought was EOD or Llama's posts or see that the poll did say it ended yesterday.
Also side missions aren't always 48/24.

It makes no sense for scum me to pretend that I thought the deadline was 24 hours early and vote for Wilgy just for what? The hell of it. That literally makes no sense what so ever. I thought we were about to be done this phase since that is what the poll said so I voted. Epi did the same is he mafia for voting so earlier?

Yeah, 48/24 is recommended, but not mandatory. It USED to be that 24 was required. Thats why I asked Llama in signups if it was 24 or 48. When I came in and the poll had ended, I automatically assumed (yeah yeah make an ass of u & me) that day had ended, too.

Scotty wrote:
Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Why were you taunting me?
Just to see how you would react, and to get some discussion going.
And what did it tell you?
Well, the reactions are still ongoing, though I do admit that adding the dragon part has soured it a bit, because it made the focus be on that.

And actually, I find this to be much more believable than the linki business. You would have had a hanging quote with no meaning had you NOT "added" that sentence.
That doesn't make sense, calling it "much more believable than the linki business". I would not have had a hanging quote with no meaning, I would have had " Getting nervous, S~V~S?" all by itself. Then I saw a similar sentiment in Serge's post, and riffed off that as a nod to the similar sentiment.

Has anyone ever referred to you as a dragon before this time? "Unleash the dragon" is a phrase that works on its own, meaning-wise. Consider if I had said my post without Serge's before it. Don't you think it's kind of awkward and weird on its own? "Is the dragon coming out?" Why would I say that, like that, if Serge hadn't coined the "unleash the dragon" part? It's not like you have been called a dragon before - without Serge's post before mine, my dragon part would be sort of confusing. Like, an appropriate answer would be "What do you mean, 'is the dragon coming out?' ?? "

Scotty wrote:You had a "slip" about knowing Daisy's role in Downton Abbey that sig harped on for some time- this turned out to be a misunderstanding and was not a slip at all.
But the way you explained this one makes it seem like you rushed your coincidental "dragon" which I am much less inclined to believe, considering it wasn't included with a linki. It's like you ordered an omelette and half way through the chef making your omelette, he realized he forgot the egg, so he throws in an egg- shell and all- into the pan, so you end up with some ghetto-ass egg monster on your plate.

It's unlikely is all I'm sayin
I didn't think it needed a linki tag, considering it was after the post that Serge made. I thought you would just read it as it was, chronologically with Serge's, and just "get it". I don't know why you would call it a "coincidental" dragon, because it was not coincidence at all, it was me reading Serge's post in linkitis, and adding a sentence to my post as a nod to his post. If you think that's what coincidence is, then you need to rethink your understanding of the word. "Rushed" is mildly acceptable. I did just jam it in there after writing my complete post.
Fair enough. I don't want to go down word semantics highway again, since actually I find that it is far more often that civs say things that can be taken out of context far more often than scum.

What do you think of Serge?

I was comparing Serge's surge (heh) in this game to that of Turf Wars, in which he was bad (and subsequently replaced) and he seems slightly more eager and jokey this go round, but has similar block posts as he did in that game. I can't tell if he is an overeager civ or Mafia member.

My problem with this is that the post of mine he quoted would have just been hanging with no point without that "dragon" remark.

And I would be willing to vote for Serge. He was trying to poke a reaction from me, but why me? Why did he think I was someone who was a good candidate for reaction poking?

And linki or not, I HATE that dragon thing.

That whole thing stunk to high hell.

Long Con wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Why were you taunting me?
Just to see how you would react, and to get some discussion going.

And what did it tell you?

And actually, I find this to be much more believable than the linki business. You would have had a hanging quote with no meaning had you NOT "added" that sentence.

(I gave up overreacting for Lent

and hopefully I can keep that up)

Sorsha wrote:Just caught up and don't have much time before I go to work...

S~V~S wrote:Do you have an opinion on Serge and what he laid down? I am not sure what I think of it.
I thought he was just joking about the "Captain Obvious" title under your username.
Maybe he was fishing for a reaction as well.

As was LC, who used an extremely similar sentence to refer to my reaction. They both were trying to get a reaction out of me, and both used the same term, "dragon" in characterizing that reaction. Your opinion?

Why were you taunting me?

Do you have an opinion on Serge and what he laid down? I am not sure what I think of it.

Why "or"?

I did not say it was anything. I just said it was weird.

Or what?

I guess i just found it interesting to be referred to with a dragon metaphor by two different people within a few minutes

I thought I might have been missing a film related link to dragons.

Are there any Dragons in Barry Lyndon?

I am fine. LC though seems to think not, though.

Serge,let's see your hand. what you got?

Serge wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Serge wrote:I do. It's irrefutable, undeniable, 100%.
Did someone tell you I react badly to suspicion on Day One?
Have I unleashed the dragon?

Um, no, lol. I am curious though about what your irrefutable (non existent) proof is though.

Long Con wrote:
Serge wrote:I believe Barry Lyndon should come out now and help us get rid of the captains. Come out Barry. We have fancy cakes and teas and potatoes and stuff all Victorian people like. Plus, monoliths. Here, Barry, Barry, we promise we don't have an axe somewhere.
That's not possible, there is a specific rule against role-outing and such things.

S~V~S wrote:OK, if you say so. I don't think you can, but shoot. Put it out there.
Getting nervous, S~V~S? Is the dragon coming out?

That false-ending poll made some cool stuff happen, made Epi and sig reveal their hands early.

Do either of you expect to be casting your vote at your chosen targets by tomorrow's deadline?

Hrm

Serge wrote:I do. It's irrefutable, undeniable, 100%.

Did someone tell you I react badly to suspicion on Day One?

OK, if you say so. I don't think you can, but shoot. Put it out there.

LOL, no you don't

Serge wrote:Now I know why they said that game was moving too fast.

Right now I'll vote for any leading bandwagon since it's day 1 and nobody can't stop me. Unless bandwagon forms around me, which will be quite unfortunate.

Do you think people can stop you from voting on other days?

thellama73 wrote:Votes in lynch polls are NOT changeable this game.

The Host said it soon after Day 1 started.

I thought we had 48 hours? That was what Llama had said in signups?

I am so sorry I missed it.

You first. Why?

I am sorry if that came across as a criticism; it was just an observation. I think poll threads spoil us to some extent.

agleaminranks wrote:Goodness, gettin' be bout that time we checkin' see who gettin the axe from how long ye survivin' in other games, innit?

Be this as I ain't played many games wif neither too many these folks, I ain't makin' my vote too quick here lest I got sum good 'nuff reason, aye?

I have played quite a few games with most of them, and I have to agree with you. Hopefully we get some good discussion going today. Hopefully we don't get that whole last minute clusterfuck going on.

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Anyone home?
Not MP. Maybe I'll vote for him.

I see there is no poll thread. Is he the only one not to check in?

Anyone home?

Long Con wrote:Well hey, if either of them does some obvious scumslip, all bets are off, of course.

There's a baddie role that has BTSC with Civ role. What reason does he have to ever go in there?

So basically, you aren't voting for them unless you are?

I am paranoid of no one in general like I am paranoid of Sorsha, so I try hard to give her extra BOTD, since I know that about me.

But each game is a fresh start.

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I am looking for people to say something. Anyone, anything. We need to get a conversation going to start forming opinions.
Votes S~V~S.

OK, I looked and you did not actually vote

I m sorry but pretending to vote and not actually doing it it cheesy.

Becasue I did not like your political Swift post?

Linki,lolololololololol

OK ha ha

If I get lynched (since we can't change votes) over your ludicrous vote, I will keep this in mind

I am looking for people to say something. Anyone, anything. We need to get a conversation going to start forming opinions.

I want content from anyone. You are here, so not aimed at you. Let's go drag people into the thread.

Well, it was worth asking

So what do you say? Or do you only post pseudo on topic/off topic posts?

Llama,has everyone picked up their PMs?

The poll question is, "Who is a scoundrel & a rogue?". I posit that the true question is, who is even here?

OK, you said Faraday made a good catch. This implies a game related point. So gotcha, it is not related to your role.

So it's a role hint?

I mean that I am in the bathroom at work on my phone. Do the satirical essays of Swift have any beating on the game? Will this info be something I need for game purposes?

So it's off topic?

Is this in the wrong thread?

ebwop, I did not notice that he already DID answer it. Fast host is fast.

Well, we don't know that for sure, but it seems likely. Nora will have to watch out for manipulation big time, though. Plus sheis gonna have to be really carefulabout her opinions in there. Godspeed, Nora.

I don't know that Llama will answer that question, but if he does it would be nice

The only way I have seen cross affiliation BTSC happen is if at least one of the parties goes in as their role, not as the player.

@Llama, is that the case? Also, if Barry's son is NKed, Barry will know his role since it effects his win con? Barry can win with the Captains?

I'm here!

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