The Syndicate

Prediction: NOT DH, INH or Golden

Also I forgot to send in names for BTS this time, I am losing track of the difference between night/day ha ha

Sorsha wrote:In addition to the three fish I caught I have +3 fish. Who's hungry?

I kept one and gave one to poor Epi who seems to be falling apart

So it looks like food needs are met. Maybe the low energy people can start taking naps, to build energy back?

Well, we have 7 fish, enough for all.

I will keep one and send one to Epignosis, just to be safe.

Yay!!

And I think Sawyer also had a strength bonus.

I am so pleased

Also yay re fish and fishing equipment.

I think it has more to do with dice than proximity, but you never know!

Linki, indeed! Lick him!!

Good I did not want to get hosed on a technicality lol

Does Sawyer have to bold that?

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:So if Sawyer no shows, Scotty will just assign him random moves?

I don't think that will be an issue.

Gotcha

So if Sawyer no shows, Scotty will just assign him random moves?

Quin wrote:How do you know the order that they're participating?

It's in Scottys post here:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p346899

He is updating the original Challenge post

Ok it looks like we are down to the last 2, Epi who was holding off until closer to the end so he had a chance at not having to compete, and Sawyer, who has not been in at all today, it would appear?

1. Long Con vs Opt_Outside
2. SVS vs INH
3. Sorsha vs speedchuck
4. DF vs LoRab
5. Quin vs DH
6. ______ vs ______
7. ______ vs ______

Put yourself before me in the healing queue, OK? We need a healthy doctor if we have an epidemic.

Also hit order:

Hit Low
Block
Hit High
block
block
hit high
block
hit low

Scotty wrote:Someone asked this in the other thread and I want to reiterate it here:
If a team gets 4 points right off the bat, the 5th-7th bouts will not happen, and the players in those bouts will not be penalized energy

So Epi and other low energy people, don't sign up till the rest of us have. Maybe you want to find the two lowest (assuming everyone shows up by a reasonable time)?

Linki, yup!

Thanks Scotty Probst!

I will participate in the challenge.

Hit order to follow

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:FYI: 12 Energy, 9 Thirst, and 7 Hunger and counting.

You're on the fish list. Sorsha or I will get you.

I'll probably throw it up. Don't we have some dry toast around here?

I don't think so. But you gotta try to eat!

Also I think LC is the last person, not counting me, not to have eaten?

Scotty wrote:Remember to state in thread that you are participating and I will slot you in. Otherwise, I'm randomizing the order.

Can I state participation without giving a hit order?

Epignosis wrote:FYI: 12 Energy, 9 Thirst, and 7 Hunger and counting.

You're on the fish list. Sorsha or I will get you.

Well, hopefully we find out what Faraday can do for us. If he can do for only one of us, I think I am stronger than you, so you should be healed first for sure. These are my levels, I am in pretty good shape, I chose the no energy option for the first days challenge:

19 Energy, 9 Thirst, and 13 Hunger.

Long Con wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wait - the first to 20 points wins. So maybe it makes more sense to use the hits first, and then block four times?

I know Epi is the Logic Master, but I tried a little bit with my inferior brain.

Stop you , you and Epi are both better logicians than I. I am just seeking more than one approach, in order to figure the best approach since I don't have a strength bonus.

I am hoping having the shelter will help us with energy, but maybe people with lower levels should take naps?

I am looking for some input from the logic perspective on action orders. Is there some sort of logic rule that would govern this, or is random good enough? Looking at you, Epi, bringer of the last logic scroll.

Also, yeah, people put their hunger levels. I am at 13, so I am giving my fish away today should I get one.

Well, I would like opinions as to best order before making it official. But I am game

Well, I gave my fish away, and my hunger dropped a point, so I didn't eat anything either. I think it is just "sick".

And good questions, LC! Although the shelter is off the list, and the fires needs stoking, not building, both good signs. Lets not let the fire go out

LInki, agreed, especially since he is sick as well. I just wanted clarity on how sickness affects energy, like are sick people weaker?

I will look at the options and try to decide action order, or maybe random is just better?

Bye MP thanks for your sacrifice

OK I think I may have to sit this one out. Not sure. I got sick during the night. So not sure if that would affect my ability to participate? Or if Faraday can heal me during the phase.

If not my energy is at 19.

Per what I said yesterday I am going to go fishing. But fyi apparently being sick makes your thirst level decrease so I need water and hope someone goes to the well.

notsawyer540 wrote:

Long Con wrote:In the future, if anyone wants me to pick them for BTSC, feel free to ask. I don't think it needs to be secret.

Does it? I'm interested in opinions.

Haha, I've put you down days.

Day 1 it was LC and MP
Day 2 it was LC and SVS

Even though I didn't put down SVS the first time, we got BTSC on night 1. It didn't amount to anything though cause we were both busy.

Do you know how that happened? We both asked for someone else, but got each other?

@LC, I mainly thought that from they way you reacted to me day 1, thinking I was keeping things from people about the "nimbleness" thing. It's just an overall impression I have had. You seem to be super concerned about people keeping things close to the vest. I think if Sorsha was trying to keep it from us, she would not have shared that she gave her fish to two people on the first day. After talking to you yesterday, I think it is just hard to get rid of paranoia; moreso for some than others. I was mainly pointing it out to you since I was not sure you realized it.

Thanks MP,

We will try our hardest for a member of Atamai to bring it home.

Actually, Epi, I tried for you last night. Both people I tried said they did not send names in ha ha

OK, thanks for not freaking out, lol. When I got your post in linki, I was like, "oh crap" ha ha

I was mainly asking becasue I was hoping to avoid hostility since we had no chance to not lynch today.

Long Con wrote:Sounds good S~V~S. Sorsha, why didn't you come forward earlier about being the Fisherman?

I was thinking she had to be that role based on what she said, she got two fish. She did not have to tell us that at all. She could have kept one, given one away for brownie points and not said anything.

You keep looking for reasons to suspect people, but then don't understand when people don't want to come clean when you ask them to.

Based on this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dammit.

I apologize for my inactivity. It's going to be hard for me to be around much, frankly, just due to how busy I am right now, which is why I didn't sign up for this originally. I'll at least try to pop in during five or ten-minute bursts throughout the day going forward though; I think that's doable.

I wonder in MP would be OK with volunteering to be voted off. Sounds like he might prefer not to be on the island.

MP, do you feel someone other than you is less valuable?

I have been thinking about this food business.

DFaraday
Epignosis
Long Con
MovingPictures07
notsawyer540
Quin
Sorsha
SVS

OK this is all of us.Those who have eaten are in blue.

So, assuming Sorsha only got two fishes since we had no fire Day 1, DFaraday, LC me & Sorsha have not eaten. So going alphabetically I am giving my fish to Faraday.

Tomorrow, lighting a fire is paramount so Sorsha can get more fish. As of yesterday, I was at 14 hunger, so I can go four more days before I even hit the point everyone else (as far as I know) started at.

So I propose that I fish every day, keep the fish every fourth day, and give it away the other days. I also propose (if it is OK with her, and since she volunteered the info, I think it likely is) that Sorsha fish every day, and keep one every other day. This way we will have at least three fish a day, some days 4, to keep everyone fed so no one dies of hunger, or even gets below a level 8 or so.

Any flaws here?

Long Con wrote:Why should we be secretive about our BTSC requests anyway? I am comfortable telling who I had BTSC with.

I've told all three of my BTSC partners who I had BTSC with so far. I see no reason to keep it secret. I'm not plotting. I have no plots to plot. I don't know what secrets I should keep, or why. Spoiler alert: I am willing to make an alliance with everyone. I can only assume you all feel the same way. Who is stupid enough to say "No thanks, no alliance - I'm already with someone else!"

Right? I don't see the point of this nightly BTSC right now. There's no place in the game right now for deception and betrayal. Am I wrong? Do I not watch Survivor, so I don't understand? Are you all making backdoor deals and scheming?

Seriously, someone tell me.

I like private discussion since it can be a little more real and you get a better sense *sometimes* of how a person feels. While I always am a little paranoid of the that i know is lurking within you, I know I feel about a million percent better about you after BTS. So I think it still serves a purpose, but yeah, this whole thread is kinda like that.

So I assume they are ALSO lynching someone?

My hunger level after not eating two days will still be higher than others start with so I will give my fish away. I will decide to whom later.

My BTS did not go through apparently as I got no PMs this AM.

I know who I won't vote for, which is not based solely on BTS, although that comes into it.

I moved my rock. My family is driving me nuts.

Don't forget to switch to black rocks, OK?

Well, I will be back to move my rock to the black rock.

If we meet with the other tribe tonight, lets keep our thoughts close to our vests.

If you can't be back by the end of the night, yeah go black. If you can change it later on.

Sorsha wrote:

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Long Con wrote:On the surface, yes. Barring some twists. What do you think the likelihood of the twist is in this situation, is it within usual Survivor lure for such a Twist to happen as, I don't know, something that will make us regret being selfish?

What kind of twist?

A bonus for unselfish people in the next Immunity Challenge.

Epi: I only HATE to lose an Immunity Challenge. Losing here would be just inconvenient.

notsawyer540 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Did anyone get a result from the night poll?

What do you mean? All I got was a PM with my updated stats and another with the info about being able to see my opponent's choice in the challenge.

S~V~S and I both chose "Trust", and we have been in BTSC today... I assume because of it. I thought perhaps other options had yielded results.

Did you send her name in yesterday for the btsc thing?

No. We think it is from both voting Trust.

And MP, thanks for the update! That is super good to know, they are doing basically the same thing there that we are doing. So I will wait as long as possible to change my rock color.

Long Con wrote:I'm leaving my rock yellow, and then switching it as close to midnight as possible.

@S~V~S: Right, but they could change at 11:59, and we'd be too late once the word got through.

But we would know if Speedchuck or Eloh did, right?

I am more worried about people forgetting to change it back or falling asleep.

I will do as you ask, but will probably change it back in an hour or so when I get home so I don't forget ha ha

TEMP SENDING A YELLOW ROCK

Long Con wrote:On the surface, yes. Barring some twists. What do you think the likelihood of the twist is in this situation, is it within usual Survivor lure for such a Twist to happen as, I don't know, something that will make us regret being selfish?

What kind of twist?

Long Con wrote:Ok, what we do know is that it's really likely that their team will have Willpower players on it as well. Our ideal plan is to choose yellow until the last possible second, and then switch to black, to trick their Seers.

And if so, someone whose opposite put in a Yellow Rock, if we put in a black rock, Sawyer & MP will be told they changed, right? If Speedchuck and Eloh don't change, we're good to all put in black rocks.

Well, my food is at 14 right now; which I think is 4 above everyone elses starting point. If I fish, anything I get I can give away. So if someone else helps Faraday build, I will fish if that helps since I don't need to eat for some time, I think.

So I will do that.

So we should all send in the greedy rocks?

Epignosis wrote:Hey guys! I was walking on the beach and found a scroll!

See! YOU should be leader.

Like looking at this, what do we think these individuals will do:

DFaraday v Golden
Quin v Boomslang
Sorsha v Opt_Outside
SVS v DrWilgy
Long Con v DharmaHelper
Epignosis v insertnamehere
not sawyer v Elo
MP v speedchuck
Quin v LoRab

Greedy rock or Altruistic rock? And more important, what do we think people would expect US to do?

I would like to think people expect me to choose nice rock. BUT I also know people always suspect me, so maybe not? People might expect me to pick the other becasue I *LIKE* to think of myself as all nice and self righteous etc.

Unless they are group engineering this, I would expect Golden, based on his self image, & O_O, based on sweet nubness, to pick the nice rock. Unless they engineer this, and that is something I would expect of DH and INH, tbh. So meh, maybe just random, lol, and I am overthinking it ha ha

Wow that was a shit role to lose. And only 5 people voted.

I will join you on the shelter Faraday.

So this is basically a random game of chance? should we discuss rock selection?

Dude you need a house for that signature

I dunno about that, I am a better cheerleader

But I will say I was not in contact with anyone in Altmai before the game started. I was in contact with a few people in the other tribe, and I am beginning to think those people made the same promises to everyone they contacted. But there is only one final three or four or five, and all of us can't be in it

And I for one don't like to be played.

So I am playing for myself and I want one of us to win.

I think LC has the right of it.

No one in the other tribe has any real loyalty to any of us no matter what was said pregame. I walked into Atamai and there was no more before.

I may or may not be LMS, but I want the winner to be one of us. In any case we should concentrate on the present during challenges, do our best, and worry about later, later.

OK, I just found this and have to post it, and then no more cheerleading for now:

You were not the only one to have problems understanding complex directions, Faraday, and you did it by yourself without any input from the rest of us.

We will do better tomorrow now that we know where we went wrong; we will make sure we are clear with directions, we will assume time is a factor, and we will periodically check in on the thread to see if we are needed, and we will kick ass.

We are team awesome

DFaraday wrote:I stayed on wading pool (incidentally, I found a shell while wading, but it doesn't seem like it gives me any benefits). I think Scotty said I took a nap because of how long it took me to PM, because I thought the time was symbolic (the activity said things like "lose 30 seconds for each additional step taken to solve"). I didn't realize h ow long it took me irl would count against me.

Well, now we know better.

We need to concentrate on working together so we can WIN the next challenge rather than pointing fingers and trying to decide who we will lynch next tribal council.

We WON'T be going to the next tribal council, cause we're gonna WIN.

All of our chances individually grow immensely if we go into the merge with superior numbers. We had a setback, and we learned from it, and we will do better next time.

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:ebwop, he=Faraday, not really expecting the Host to clear up anything ha ha

The Poll is posted now, and he chose the wading pool.

I saw that, but options were changeable. So maybe he changed options, like I said, I am sure he will clear it up.

And I don't know about Sorshas eating requirements. Like I told you yesterday, *I* have a 15 for hunger, which I believe is higher than what most have. And that I can't "hoard" food, so use it, give it away or lose it.

ebwop, he=Faraday, not really expecting the Host to clear up anything ha ha

Long Con wrote:

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I am thinking Scotty is using a randomizer of some kind, or a dicing program, to determine how much of what happens. Like how many of my shots went it, or how much food was gathered, how much success in tasks, etc.

I would think that people who need to eat should get food, since the water thing did not say we only had enough water for ourselves.

Since food is not as much of an issue for me, I might wait a day and perhaps explore. Since napping during challenges seems to have a detrimental effect (unless that bit about Faraday being behind due to his napping was just flavor?). Or maybe get back to that shelter or fire. Maybe Sorsha and Epi who ate should work on the shelter?

DFaraday chose napping as his poll option?

No, he chose 'Walk in the wading pool'.

Hey, is that Fisherman guy on our tribe? Maybe if he fishes, we'll get a better yield.

I thought he took a nap becasue of this from the host post:

The next leg was the Puzzle solving. DH and DFaraday, respectively, gave it their best. While DF settled down and had a small nap, DH ran into some roadblocks with the host under some sort of miscommunication. After a time, he then bowed out and asked someone else to try. Golden valiantly stepped in and solved it, ready to keep going.

Maybe he changed options? It just seemed odd that Scotty specifically said he took a nap when that was a poll option. I am sure he will clear it up.

And yay Sorsha for sharing.

Linki, yeah having a hunger bonus, I also asked the host if I could give food away should I get any and he said, sure.