Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:48 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:46 pm
That leaves me with DDL, nutella, and Dom, and I'm bored with voting for Dom.
[VOTE:
DDL] aubergine
The thing is I'm now stuck between voting for nutella and Dom.
I could add S~V~S to this.
If her role was a civilian role, as she claims, then her ideal use of it would be baiting mafia to vote for her. That isn't the perspective she took. She was relieved that
nobody voted for her:
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:03 am
So I was just relieved. I made it to Night 7 without even one vote. You have no idea how stressful this was. And how worried I was about how people would react to it. I was town before and I am town now.
On the other hand:
# 58
Alias: The Asymptomatic Carrier
Source: The Asian Flu Pandemic came to an end in 1958, after claiming over two million lives worldwide
Member Of: Evil Evens
Power Type: Passive Ability
Role Description: You are infected with a deadly strain of influenza but aren’t hurt by it. Every person you vote for will become infected. You will also infect every player who targets you with a day or night power. Anyone you infect will, in turn, infect anyone they vote for and any player using a night or day power on them. Once 2/3 of all players have become infected, one player will die each day. Two day phases after #58 dies, the virus will stop spreading but infected players will still be at risk of dying until the infection rate drops below 50%.
S~V~S had a real role from CC123. For that reason, it might make sense that she believed DDL to have the Mr. Freeze role, which lends credibility to her perspective (which, to be frank, I found out of whack, since we obviously don't all have roles from CC123 even though we have numbers).
I am inclined to find S~V~S's posts more genuine than I suspect her previous role.
And speaking of her role: A ten percent chance, despite how distraught S~V~S says she was about taking any votes, is not that great. I can believe the role is a civilian role. If it is a civilian role, it's only function is to potentially punish people for voting a civilian. If it is a mafia role, then it
punishes civilians for doing what they are supposed to do: Vote out mafia.
Nah.
I'm going to keep S~V~S in the good pile for now.
Epi, tell me, how do you bait baddies to vote for you with surgical precision without picking up a few civvies as collateral damage?
There are more civvies than baddies, and how do I bait one over the other without knowing who they are? We are at Day 7 and we lynched one baddie for sure (although given it took two days). On Day 1 I thought Sprit was bad, I no longer think that. So had I managed to induce Sprit to vote for me (which the RR would have done; I was amazed anyone went with that) what actually would have happened is I got a civvie with the virus.
If there are two bad teams, baddies want to lynch baddies. But If there is only one bad team, they want to make blendy votes and lynch civvies on civvie led trains. In either case, "enticing" baddie votes would still prolly net me a few civvies. I am one of those people who believes better to let a few guilty people go than to punish the innocent. I did not want to residually infect any of the innocents, so I went out of my way to infect nobody. Since, you know, I have no idea who the baddies were any more than anyone else did.
You were tired here and I hope you got some sleep
But if you want to vote for me, feel free, I am OK with it now
I am kind of resting a bit becasue I expect to have to defend myself hard when we merge becasue of that reveal, and I would not be surprised to get lynched. Not sure why our host gave me this role lol, but it is what it is (Golden
).
I was quiet alot of yesterday (hopefully Refrigerator cuts me some slack tomorrow) becasue it was nice to not have to aggressively civ. But also that role reveal for Chuck confuzzled me, and I needed to think, not talk. And I thought about it alot. And you know what? I am not sure I believe it. Becasue when I was discussing my own reveal, I realized that when I had asked the host if people who I gave the virus to were cured when I died, Golden said, "No",
they still have the virus after I die.
So if the effects of MY role last after I die, why not LC's role?
I cannot get over how aggressively Chuck defended LC, and how rapidly he dropped Dom from his radar once LC was dead. LC had up to an hour before the lynch to change his target iirc. I think once they realized Dom was not going to get lynched (and Chuck tried super very hard to make that happen) they changed their target to Chuck, and made him look civ.
I know the maths can be manipulated when there are too many unknown variables. And Chuck trying so damn hard to "civfirm" himself in that way sets off alarms for me.
I feel that one of either Chuck or DH is bad in wake of LCs lynch (DH being all "I lynched LC" when he got mad at me for not giving LC enough of a chance to defend himself, lol, come on DH). But after rereading both of them and that lynch, I still think it was Chuck. I think DH would have bussed him earlier and more aggressively (not his literal vote, but his posts). And if the team was LC & DH, and Chuck really IS a civ, then DH would especially sit back and let him take the flak, and he didn't.
I don't expect to get a lot of people on board for this, since Chuck is gonna flip civ, but I don't want to just jump on the DDL train when I am conflicted on him. I really think the Mr Freeze thing fits too well to be a coincidence, and stopping all night actions generally favors the civs. That #32, that chilly night post.
So gonna do it my way and toss that aubergine at Chuck,
*Vote Speedchuck*; I think that role reveal is bogus.
Anyone who said I was tunneling earlier in the game, you were wrong, THIS is tunnelling. And I am OK with it.
For everyone else, where I stand. I think Chuck was LC's teammate. If there is a second team I am not sure who it would be. If the second kill is an SK not a team, then they are on the other side, since only one kill happened here, and it was an even kill, me, on Night 6, so it was LC's teammate. He has a teammate in here.
Bob, no idea. The role has no connotation, and tbh, as I have said, I don't think much can be gleaned from a first role about affiliation, especially a passive one. I will say that when I said I thought he was quiet yesterday at 2:10, I did not tag him or quote him , and he popped in at 2:20 just to reply to me.
Something or nothing? That pushed him down the meter a tad.
DDL I get the case on him, but I love the Mr Freeze hypothesis too much to vote for him.
DH DH always makes me wary, but I also work harder than I would for most to be totally sure before I suspect him. There were moments during the LC lynch. Even though I think this set up and the mechanics kind of defy and almost exclude normal WIFOM meta type stuff, I still can't see a universe with DH, LC and Chuck on a team, and both DH and Chuck defend LC as hard as they did (yes DH, I know you lynched him etc., but you did defend him a lot, too). I read that lynch over and over, and I still think it was Chuck, not DH. But I could be wrong, and if that role reveal is actually true, then
Dom, I read him as civ. I read him as civ when he's a psychotic serial killer, too. Enough said. 50/50
Epi, it took me some time to get his new style, but I think he's civ.
Nutella, I don't particularly feel she is reading civ, but when I contrast her bad game in Mass Effect to this, it is very different. I am not seeing opportunism, and she lashes out a bit, which I think she would do in chat if she had a chat. So BOTD here. She is the Anti-Dom for me; in one game she was literally Mother Theresa and I read her as bad. So 50/50
Quin, I have a role in mind for him. I go back and forth on him. I think Chucks "townfirm" maybe tainted him in my mind, but without that in light of what I think his role is, I feel better about him than worse. Not unlike DDL. So 50/50 here as well.
Sprityo I think he is civ.
SVS she is that well known townie reformed poisoner
I have never been to happy to have been NKed!