The Syndicate

Baddies played an awesome game. I was sad I couldn’t have my ghost friend though.

Congrats wolves, gg.

i kinda hope it is Scotty and he takes me with him. I have a super fun role. He might have enjoyed it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:53 pm If I flip after claiming I will laugh at anyone who has ever claimed that Tutuu claimed too early.

Did you claim? I must have missed that.

I thought hunger started tomorrow? Eek.

And this was unexpected wasn't it?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:56 pm i think ur both town but thats so funny i wanna watch it happen

Me too. I'll prolly be salty with him for a few hours, but the "You can't read me for shit" equity this will bring me will make it all worthwhile.

Looks like i also get to tell u u cant read me for shit in future games so good to know

You don't seem like you have in other games, I always expect specific insights from you, but then you didn't do that in Se7en either, plus I changed my mind

i think it was the same thing I did to Sabi in LGM, they were so foreign playwise to me, I couldn't find a town reason for what they did. And Sabi was sooo town. I put my gameplay expectations on someone from another Mafia culture. I think i did the same here. So sorry, presuming you are town

you could always hit me up with that neighborhood, too.

True.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:30 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:29 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:10 pm [VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Not gonna say no to my main preference but just...Why not earlier ?

Who was lead wagon before this vote?

I believe scotty as me and wilgy were on it, then he randomly went to martin who I think used a scummy angle to TR tutuu

i was on it, too. I moved mainly becasue he's AFK and apparently had a bad connection when he was here. Getting yeeted when you're not around sucks.

I voted Martin to bring a tie for now, it still gives Scotty a shot at taking me with him.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Linki @ Jay, but baddies are also capable of displaying good attention to detail, seeming quite earnest in his efforts to sort players, etc. I think that's why Scotty thinks I'm tricksy.

I am really salty that Scotty is holding me not wanting to vote him on his fucking anniversary when he's AFK against me. I am really salty. Morton salty.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:14 pm Wilgy peeling away from me is a scummy sign. Svs staying put is probably more towny than not

Why is that scummy?

It's not.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:13 pm Anyway, losing service again probably. Disappointed that this suspicion came on in back half of day when I didn’t have time but it is what it is

And you, you, I am the one who told people you were AFK and then you poked me again and threatened me. I am kinda salty with you, if truth be told.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:10 pm @DrWilgy @S~V~S could you describe what you found off about Martin? You may have already clarified, so I will check quickly too.

Alot of it was his interfacing with Scotty tbh. I also really didn't like that whole faux TMI trap he says he set that no one ever explained to me when i asked about it. That kind of trick/trap stuff always rubs me the wrong way. Like I know it's just a game, but I don't expect civs to do that.

I had asked you before, maybe you missed it, why do you TR him?

While I do think it would be hilarious if Scotty took me down with him, and am kind of in love with the idea, I could also move to Martin. Although i will loathe all the little barbs and insinuations from Scotty should be both live.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:56 pm i think ur both town but thats so funny i wanna watch it happen

Me too. I'll prolly be salty with him for a few hours, but the "You can't read me for shit" equity this will bring me will make it all worthwhile.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:56 pm LMAOOOO HE'S GONNA KILL SVS LMAOOOO

i know. It will be awesome, I'll hold it over his head for the rest of eternity, whenever he tries to bad read me again. EVER>

I'm ready to die. Bring it, I look forward to the eternal glory lolololol

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:55 pm Listen, I don’t actually wish to die. I think I’m a very valuable asset and have pushed the town along.

But if I do die, well…


I got one more trick up my sleeve

And if you're being honest about being town, so do I. Having hosted Se7en, you may be able to think of reasons a person may be cagey Day One. True it was bad reasons there, but could be good reasons here.

If you have one of those "take one of my voters out" powers and you take me with you it will be hilarious, and I'll never let you forget it.

E.V.E.R.

@Scotty here's a cryptic thing for you.

Do you believe in an afterlife?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:50 pm Ironically, I view SVS, who isn’t voting me here, the most scummy person not on my wagon.

She keeps pussyfooting around what she thinks of me, and it’s so noncommittal that *i’m* not buying it

Holy shit dude, I'm trying to be polite here lol. I don't even begin to understand how you're reading me. You're holding me to a ridiculous standard.

Fine, here you go.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:35 pm If there is a tie between Rico, tutuu and myself, I will take the fall

i am glad you came in. I still don't know what i think of you, you honestly don't feel sincere in your push on me, and how you seem to be handfast with Martin, who holds similar views. But i would rather not vote for you today, given your rl is more important than a game.

Epis walrus thingie starts in 15 minutes, so I would like to vote now, but I'm planning to pop in and out so i can change it.

For now [VOTE: Martin] aubergine but I'm willing to listen.

Of the people with wagons, i feel good enough about Rico and Wilgy that I don't want to yeet them day 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:32 pm Is there a reason that falcon should not be voted out

Is there a reason he should be? I don't read him well, I tend to sheep Zenons opinion there.

Wilgy says you TR Martin. What am I missing? He felt a bit shifty to me, and I never understood the faux TMI slip thing he supposedly set up to catch Zenon?

I just read him and he didn't say anything I felt positive about.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:08 pm Scotty and Martin went for the proctect hmmmm?

Seems wolfy. If I was a wolf I'd grab that shit immediately.

What is your position on Martin? Scotty put a lot of effort into talking him up. I'm goign to read him now.

I think it is possible he is bad, but i really dislike yeeting people who are AFK and announced it in advance.

OK, people I won't vote for game related reasons, Day One reads are iffy.

Rondo, don't see his joy at seeing Jay in thread coexisting with a bad Rondo who makes a case on Jay.
Porscha, she doesn't look like bad Porscha to me, and i liked how she came in today.
DMB, she's rough around the edges, but I don't see a bad nub getting in a thread leaders face like she did.

People I don't want to vote for other reasons

Motobot and DMB (again) are both new to us, yes? Don't like yeeting nubs day one.

Town leans, not in any order, mostly alpha, some of these leans are very weak leans, but they are stronger than null.

Jay, Rico, Sean, Tutuu, Vivax, Wilgy. Re tutuu, I realized i was doing to her what I did to Sabi in LGM; applying my standards to a person who came up in a different Mafia community, and thinks differently. If I remove the business with the items from consideration, it reduces her baddie equity for me. Plus I was intrigued by her role claim.

Jay I had an old set of parameters for jay, but none of them apply anymore, he got tired of being expected to perform every game, so he mellowed out. I get it, but i don't know how to read him anymore. It's been a long time since we played together. Same for Rico, it's been a long time. I remember him being a bit more prickly, maybe he mellowed, or that doesn't come till later. Again, no real basis of comparison to our old dynamic.

I've gotten a better grip on Sean than I used to have, but I also missed alot of what he said today. Vivax felt alot more hail fellow well met super friendly when he was ... bad. He seemed alot more cryptic and more self contained when town. But my experience with him is limited. Wilgy always feels benign to me until he suddenly doesn't, but his recent posts pushed me a bit towards town.

No clue:

Belzy, Creature, Falcon, LC, Martin, Zenon

Some of these haven't said enough to get a grip on, like Belzy and Zenon (and although she generally posts heaps, she does this as either alignment, so not posting at all is nai for me, I don't think it's alignment related.

I don't like the constant low level push Scotty has done on me. I'm going to reread Martin who Scotty has devoted several posts to Martin Appreciation.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:07 pm @MartinGG99 @JaggedJimmyJay @RondoDimBuckle @Scotty @Vivax @tutuu @Creature You're all voting vanity wagons. Please consider moving, or make a case for your vote if you feel strongly about it.

@S~V~S @Zenon both of you are unviting by voting yourselves. I recommend actually casting a real vote soon.

I've got a dinner date tonight so I won't be around for EoD... somebody fix this shiz plz.

I'm planning on it within the next 40 minutes. I just wanted it off Scotty since he is AFK.

OK, looking at other people with votes, don't want to vote Rico or tutuu, but at least not as bad as I thought, I thought this ended at 7, but it goes to 8. Epi has a walrus reveal tonight at 7, I didn't expect this to overlap.

I'm going to move my vote to myself as a temp.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:12 pm @Scotty if u happen to be able to be online u might needa self pres

Double bad that he said yesterday he would be AFK for his anniversary. Imma get my vote off him once I figure out where to put it instead, I'm TRing more people than not.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:52 pm
Also heads up it’s my wife’s birthday tomorrow so I’m going to be rather busy being attentive

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:50 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:05 pm Case on Scotty not playing it genuine

SVS shade, based on mechtalk, feels like a scramble to come up with some less-good to paint someone out of it (whilst there was no true, general trend to sus anyone out of that talk, save for SVS v. tutuu). The reasoning that SVS would have played it carefully doesn't feel cooked in campfire at all.

Later spins it, I feel, in a sketchy / paranoid angle of SVS being smooth killah and stuff, which feels either too early (and insubstantial) to paint such a picture or just bluff

This portion is fair, and it occurs to me that I don't have the clearest understanding of what Scotty's discomforts with S~V~S are in this game. I have an impression that Scotty is worried about S~V~S, but it seems to be more about the concept of S~V~S than about posts she made in the game thread (e.g., she's "tricksy" or "careful"). Scotty could stand to clarify this stuff.

This is why I’ve said I’m not 100% sure I believe he thinks I’m bad, or if he just thinks it’s a believable thing to say, if that makes sense. Like, “Ooo SVS is scary “ and everyone goes, “yeah” and votes for me you know? We’re all scary, look what we do for fun.

I should be home about 90 minutes. I don’t plan on leaving my vote on Scotty, iirc he said he would be AFK today so I’d rather not.

“UR so valid Queen ” is a bit hyperbole.

Again I am sorry if I have brought offense, it was definitely not my intention, tutuu.

I tend to townread ballsiness, and that’s the case here. I am sorry if your feelings are hurt most def not intentional.

@tutuu that was in no way personal. I think DMBs honesty makes her more likely town. I’m townreading her, not endorsing her actions.

I didn’t say I agreed with her or thought she was right. I think a baddie wouldn’t have gotten in your face.

I’m surprised to see you take that personally. It most def wasn’t meant that way.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:01 amI'm weird

We all try not to talk about that Honey

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 pm Could also throw SVS into townleans but I'm not gonna put it on the list because I wanna act like I'm planting seeds when I actually don't know what I'm doing.

You’re the only person I recall having said this, lol, even if you won’t commit. Can I ask what led you to this tentative thought?

What about DMB led you to think she’s specifically bad? Or is it just a low poster vote?

My boss called in (golfing) sick so o may have more time today.

Well that’s weird lol

Also can someone point out the Martin faux slip to me?

Yay work. Bbl.

Also can someone point out the Martin faux slip to me?

Yay work. Bbl.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:00 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:54 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:47 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:37 am

Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

To jump to her defense a little bit, she´s the impulsive type and likes to post in hyperbole but I hope nobody takes it personally as she needs to build a more nuanced mafia persona which requires practice so she´s going to exhibit that ´wooden mallet to close targets´ posting style for a while, probably.

I believe that post tone = exacerbated yelling directed at tutuu is a strong town point nontheless.

ur friend thinks people will respect her and take her seriously after she calls them annoying, egotistical and stupid?

She‘s my other half and the emotional type with a temper. Making the best of it means for me to acknowledge her as town for the brutal honesty so having her tone down the demeanors should suffice and if not we can policy her if you so wish but I‘d rather hit scum.

I need to review SVS in the meantime.

Thank You for this. I knew you were friends with DMB since I spoke to you about it when she came on board. And I had not ISOed you, but noted that when I saw a post of yours, there was no mention of her, and I was looking for your opinion, and tbh, wondering why, but didn't want to call attention to a thing which happened out of game.

Now i have to go read her brutal honesty, since I Have been picking posts rather than reading linerally since last night, and i don't recall much from her.

If you allude to tutuus mentioning of discord stuff, I took it in but am not going to use it in my process.

I think I‘ve been very concise in using in-thread information exclusively.

The scumread on Scotty makes me giddy, he‘s quite the tornado so if he‘s scum catching him is one thing but I don‘t know if he could be buried in that case.

I like to keep him at null and contemplate if he‘s scum and bussing you. But I think I‘m good with my current vote, anyways.

No I allude to you and i PMing when DMB joined the site over her not being able to access certain features. And I have not made a case on Scotty? I am not really sure what I think of him yet.

He's saying the usual paranoid things he says to me, but he does not feel particularly sincere to me. I don't know if I believe him with all of his little jabs. I voted him as kind of a joke, since he was poking me about not liking to OMGUS, and there ius no "Unvote" in this thread. It's not a sincere vote and I thought i was clear about it when I made it.

The pre-game PMs to unlock the game threads? Why is it relevant to this game ?

Should give motobot a reread.

If your vote on Scotty isn‘t serious just carry on ig. But would be nice to see you make up your mind on a serious vote in the meantime.

I believe into my case but also see that literally anything can happen in this game so I curb my hopes.

It's not. That was my point. I knew you had a connection, i was curious to see what you said about her, but didn't want to directly ask since I only knew that due to those PM's.

For someone that gets accused of saying too much, I am still so not clear at times I guess.

What do you think of Scotty? I haven't seen it yet, or I missed it.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:28 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:26 am @tutuu I went back and skimmed Cartomancy and Hot Dog Fingers, the two games I recalled bad Porscha. She seemed a bit different from each other in both, but neither of them looked much like here, particularly for a day one from a person who I generally get the impression is a slow starter. Especially since she came back to address suspicions, she felt sincere to me.

bet bet

I don't do that. I like my bear. I might consider a siggy bet on something I feel more strongly about at some point, though. I have enough of a sense of it not to vote her today, but may not feel the same on a later day.

Also looks like you welshed on your last bet, so i don't know if you'd make good on it

Gotta get ready for work, will bring up a list later, i wanted to do it this AM, but it was a lively thread for 6 AM.

ebwop, so i knew you were connected to her, but only from that interaction. I was specifically looking for your take on her, but didn't want to directly ask since I knew you had a connection based on "not in this thread" info.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:47 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:37 am

Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:09 am Die_meatball, please be mindful of Rule 4, if you are serious in tone and replies.

If it’s not or a defensive thing or an injoke thing, please clarify.

To jump to her defense a little bit, she´s the impulsive type and likes to post in hyperbole but I hope nobody takes it personally as she needs to build a more nuanced mafia persona which requires practice so she´s going to exhibit that ´wooden mallet to close targets´ posting style for a while, probably.

I believe that post tone = exacerbated yelling directed at tutuu is a strong town point nontheless.

ur friend thinks people will respect her and take her seriously after she calls them annoying, egotistical and stupid?

She‘s my other half and the emotional type with a temper. Making the best of it means for me to acknowledge her as town for the brutal honesty so having her tone down the demeanors should suffice and if not we can policy her if you so wish but I‘d rather hit scum.

I need to review SVS in the meantime.

Thank You for this. I knew you were friends with DMB since I spoke to you about it when she came on board. And I had not ISOed you, but noted that when I saw a post of yours, there was no mention of her, and I was looking for your opinion, and tbh, wondering why, but didn't want to call attention to a thing which happened out of game.

Now i have to go read her brutal honesty, since I Have been picking posts rather than reading linerally since last night, and i don't recall much from her.

If you allude to tutuus mentioning of discord stuff, I took it in but am not going to use it in my process.

I think I‘ve been very concise in using in-thread information exclusively.

The scumread on Scotty makes me giddy, he‘s quite the tornado so if he‘s scum catching him is one thing but I don‘t know if he could be buried in that case.

I like to keep him at null and contemplate if he‘s scum and bussing you. But I think I‘m good with my current vote, anyways.

No I allude to you and i PMing when DMB joined the site over her not being able to access certain features. And I have not made a case on Scotty? I am not really sure what I think of him yet.

He's saying the usual paranoid things he says to me, but he does not feel particularly sincere to me. I don't know if I believe him with all of his little jabs. I voted him as kind of a joke, since he was poking me about not liking to OMGUS, and there ius no "Unvote" in this thread. It's not a sincere vote and I thought i was clear about it when I made it.

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:51 am @tutuu
Normally I wouldn't start a conversation with you, because I know you piss me off with the way you post here. But I still hope to get a real answer here.
Why you voting on Dr.Wilgy?
Don't answer with memes. Don't answer with "Idk" or "no reason"
Or is is just the next Town you going to annoy?

I often find this frustrating as well. Someone asks me a direct question, i answer it and try to be sincere.

you are either town, or tutuus teammate, and I'm kinda kidding about the second part.

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:28 am Sorry I was working long yesterday and didn't had any energy to write here. Also that I am just writing on the phone because I can't log in on my fucking PC and this piss me of. My Screen on the Phone is ripped and so it takes fucking nervs do write with this thing
@tutuu
I played 2 games before and never did somebody have a ego like yours and annoyed me this fucking much. You literally just piss me of with no fucking reason.... I sorry that I didn't have time to spam the thread with bs like you.

i always admire honesty. You are not trying to butter up the highest poster who has kinda overwhelmed the thread a bit, in your first game here. That reads pretty well for you.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:27 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:26 am @tutuu I went back and skimmed Cartomancy and Hot Dog Fingers, the two games I recalled bad Porscha. She seemed a bit different from each other in both, but neither of them looked much like here, particularly for a day one from a person who I generally get the impression is a slow starter. Especially since she came back to address suspicions, she felt sincere to me.

How do I look?

I asked you a direct question last night, and you ignored me

I think you sounded sincere last night. Your original reaction to Jay playing sounded VERY sincere. So i don't think bad Rondo brings that case against Jay, I think you only do that if you believe me.

@Vivax, as i said, I was replying to a direct question from Scotty. My meaning there was that I'm not being manipulative when i say that. I'm just talking.

Also fwiw, my memory of Vivax is that he was much more friendly, hail fellow well met when he was bad, a bit more prickly and short when town. But my experience is limited, and he may be a person who switches it up alot.

Thank You for this. I knew you were friends with DMB since I spoke to you about it when she came on board. And I had not ISOed you, but noted that when I saw a post of yours, there was no mention of her, and I was looking for your opinion, and tbh, wondering why, but didn't want to call attention to a thing which happened out of game.

Now i have to go read her brutal honesty, since I Have been picking posts rather than reading linerally since last night, and i don't recall much from her.

If I understand you correctly, you think I am reading like Scottys teammate? No, lol.

The whole thing is reactive in nature. And I wasn't particularly expecting anyone to take this into account, except possibly Scotty. He asked me a direct question, I answered it.

I am having a hard time explaining how i feel about Scotty. Even when he incorrectly suspects me as town, he feels sincere to me. I can't say I think he does here. He feels a bit glib, like he's saying these things, but doesn't really believe them.

@tutuu I went back and skimmed Cartomancy and Hot Dog Fingers, the two games I recalled bad Porscha. She seemed a bit different from each other in both, but neither of them looked much like here, particularly for a day one from a person who I generally get the impression is a slow starter. Especially since she came back to address suspicions, she felt sincere to me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:37 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:10 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

In a game i played w wolf creature recently on fol he posted a bit, got caught, then left wolf chat middle of the day, got chopped. He hates playing mafia (like scum)

But Creature hasn't even posted yet? It's not like he posted and dipped, he just hasn't been here.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:16 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Ok these votes are just random at this point. Why are there 2 voters on a 0-poster?

why not? killing a d1 zero poster is +ev for both teams. Wolves get an easy miselim and town get rid of someone who isnt posting. Either way its good and the later mentioned reason that creature low posts as wolf so its +ev for him to be a wolf

based so lets kill sean

>sean easily found as town
>"lets kill sean before he has done anything"
>?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

isnt this a very typical wolf porscha post?

@Scotty @S~V~S from hotdog fingers. same thing no? the tone

She fooled me there for sure. I never would have called her for bad, but I also recall being pocketed by her. I’ll have to go back and read her in that game. Iirc she didn’t have lots of posts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:31 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:29 pm @tutuu no not me. I have complex thoughts on this.

I unvoted you and moved it to Scotty since he seems to want it. We’ll also No unvote option. I don’t understand what Rondo is saying, and I’m surprised to see him say it after he seemed to be almost fawning on Jay earlier.

Ohhhhh no, I don’t want it. I wanted YOU to want it. And now it seems like a downright OMGUS

lol

*well not We’ll

@tutuu no not me. I have complex thoughts on this.

I unvoted you and moved it to Scotty since he seems to want it. We’ll also No unvote option. I don’t understand what Rondo is saying, and I’m surprised to see him say it after he seemed to be almost fawning on Jay earlier.

@tutuu i have to think about this.

This was possibly the most intriguing thing you could have said from my POV.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:19 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:18 pm How many roles do you think can do this? The BTSC part?

i don't understand the framing of the question. they're all custom roles. they can do whatever epi decided

Do you think he would make more than one role the same?

@Scotty being honest about why I am or am not doing a thing is shooting from the hip.

You’re quibbling over a point of perception rather than looking at what actually was said. But you do you boo.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:13 pm normally id wait but syndicate games usually low activity and they're slow so i should say this a bit earlier than normal as i reasonably expect to be a big wagon by eod and wanna give the appropriate time for ppl to react and build up new wagons

@Zenon @S~V~S @die_meatbaby @motobot @Porscha (the people voting me)

my role lets me protect myself and a person of my choosing (with the fire mechanic thingy). we will also gain a neighborhood (btsc for u boomers) during the night

i can use it to protect @JaggedJimmyJay and he can verify my role

if u consider my role towny pls consider unvoting me (and honestly voting urselves or something i dunno. except motobot. motobot is cool. he's chill)

How many roles do you think can do this? The BTSC part? And I’m not a boomer, thanks.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:08 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:39 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:25 am Well-reasoned and I can’t fault you for this vote.

Well-reasoned SVS can be so tricksy.

SVS, what is your read of me? Do you think I am being disingenuous?

Do you associate severity with S~V~S in either alignment? I ask, because that's the crux of my own view on her. I understand her take on tutuu even if I don't quite agree, and she has presented it with a certain "force" that looks authentic. I haven't played enough lately, especially with S~V~S, to make a "meta" read of that, so it's purely a face-value impression. I ask primarily with the orange line in mind.

Oops I missed this until I just saw rondo quoting it

I think SVS is more viewed on a scale of meticulousness. I don’t think it’s severity, per se. It definitely turns into a vibe thing that also bleeds into her syntax that I can’t wholly explain.

I hope I can know it when I see it. I’m refraining from voting her at the moment because I have faith I can figure it out in time

I am honored. I think lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:58 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:33 pm This is why I should stop trying to multiquote on my phone.

It’s absolutely, terribly broken

So I’ll respond to your last post here

I think you’re being careful here. That post is a testament to that. A lot of mixed feelings, by your own admission.

“You also get paranoid”
Yeah, that’s true. Hence me being paranoid and having early suspicion of your careful wording.

“So you voting me bothered me, I’ll be honest. It felt more to me like you were trying to get a reaction than that you really thought I was being retiring.”

What is mafia if not getting reactions and feeling out the playing field?

I think the weirdest part of our interaction, and a big hang up, was your need to clarify that you don’t like doing OMGUS, so you didn’t. But you implied you wanted to.
I don’t rightly know what that means as to your alignment, but it seemed like you didn’t want to poke the bear

I loathe OMGUS. Where I came up it was the epitome of poor play. That meme of the Asian guy pointing with a big red “No U” was the most overposted thing ever. So yeah I don’t like feeling like I’m resorting to it. So I want to roll a thing like that around and think about it before I act on it cause it makes me feel icky.

But I did kinda sus you for it, which I explained up there.

I’m not being even remotely careful and am pretty much shooting from the hip.