Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:56 pm Nah by end of day 2 i saw fur growing out of your ears scotty
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Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:56 pm Nah by end of day 2 i saw fur growing out of your ears scotty
Sorry @Long Con, I could see how frustrated you were getting. Although, to be fair, had I been town, I would have suspected you for the same reasons. I would have let go earlier and voted for Scotty instead, though, lol.
@RoxyS~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:43 pmWell, at this stage, as I've said, LC is first, I also think Scotty prolly. He's dancing around and I'm just not feeling it.Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:43 am @S~V~S I feel you on LC. He has been up for elim for two days yet he has slicked by somehow by rallying everyone at EOD.
It feels strange. It reads funky. It feels so full of bad vibing.
But it also feels a bit off bc you have been laser focused on LC but beyond that I cannot remember you having any other suspicions.
You are tunneling but can you also look out of the hole once in a while and give a few other reads?
I think you and Falcon are town, and I've thought so for days. Falcon came in solvey and is working for reactions, which looks towny for Falcon imo, and you are being direct and not trying to tiptoe around people, which is harder to pull off in a small game.
Sorry I fell off, i started a new job this week, and I don't have an office yet, so I'm working from my new bosses office, so I'm not about to whip out the phone.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:57 pm Look, 2 players left are my teammates, I need input from @Long Con & @S~V~S as well. Maybe my solve is right, but it'd be foolish for us not to discuss as much as possible
I don't think Roxy is bad. I think she would have gone softer on Halyn if she had TMI. Her feelings there felt very real to me![]()
I just answered my @s, I have to read your case there. But when I said earlier in the game that there weren't many people I would defend, Rox was one of them, si it's gonna have to be one hell of a case.
It’s not a lie, I just didn’t search for other versions of Timmers nameLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:44 am "LCs first mention of Timmer was his list, his next mention of Timmer was voting for him." Yeah, lies. When something is not the truth, it's a lie. You should laugh; you've won the game, congrats. Since you're still adamantly unwilling to read my posts, this is probably the last interaction we'll have this game.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:55 pm@S~V~S This is my strongest, most clear statement in the game about why I suspect you. You did not engage with it in the slightest, despite engaging me soon after about other things, like how many times Timmer was REALLY mentioned in my ISO.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:53 pm Maybe. Maybe it's a telling thing to be arguing, probably better to think that way in a game like this. And you obviously didn't search for "Timmerman", Miss Read the ISO... I accused him earlier than even the evil guitar comment.
Like, maybe a silly thing to be arguing, so why is it happening? It's a silly thing altogether, but you made it a thing and then neglected due diligence on my ISO, and Y'KNOW, when I'm searching for clues in an ISO, I READ the posts because context is ESSENTIAL when trying to understand the subtleties of a wolf's deception. Typing in a search term is NOT the way that one looks through ISOs when they're doing detective work, it is how a Wolf looks for a gotcha.
You are that Wolf, and you are caught.
I would expect at least a token "that's how I always do ISOs" or something, but you avoided even acknowledging it. I understand why. It's because it's true, and I did catch you skim-constructing a case against me while showing evidence of a lack of actually reading my posts.
The reason you said nothing is because you wanted it to go away, and engaging with it would not help that happen.
So, you suspect me for that conversation (although you voted for me the night before that conversation) wherein you said i was bad becasue I searched your ISO for mentions of "Timmer", not "Timmerman" or "Timmy" or "Timster" or any variant of his actual screen name, *Timmer*. Okey Doke.
Lies lol. that still cracks me up.
Well, at this stage, as I've said, LC is first, I also think Scotty prolly. He's dancing around and I'm just not feeling it.Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:43 am @S~V~S I feel you on LC. He has been up for elim for two days yet he has slicked by somehow by rallying everyone at EOD.
It feels strange. It reads funky. It feels so full of bad vibing.
But it also feels a bit off bc you have been laser focused on LC but beyond that I cannot remember you having any other suspicions.
You are tunneling but can you also look out of the hole once in a while and give a few other reads?
Sorry I fell off, i started a new job this week, and I don't have an office yet, so I'm working from my new bosses office, so I'm not about to whip out the phone.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:57 pm Look, 2 players left are my teammates, I need input from @Long Con & @S~V~S as well. Maybe my solve is right, but it'd be foolish for us not to discuss as much as possible
I finally started my new job this week, and I fell asleep on the couch, and went to bed early. But tbh had I been here I don't know that i would have had much to say, having read back over it.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:37 am SVS stuff:
SVS is always a hard one for me to read- the past like 3 games I suspected her early for not meeting my expectations of what her town game looks like. I feel like she just hasn’t gotten going this game, which is something I’m not getting a good vibe from.I mean, maybe I could be taking it too literal, but the ‘not your town game’ thing stood out to me nonetheless.Spoiler: show
She fell off the face of the earth for the back half of D2. In any case, I would expect a town SVS to check in at some point.
Softening on her a bit right now, but she does need to poke her head in.
I was on his Townie list until I voted for him. He’s been No U-ing me ever since.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:19 amWhy not? Can't get caught not trying to find Maf, may as well toss a bunch of candidates out there.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:05 am Does mafia!long con label half the team as mafia lol
Do you feel they're solving? Just feels like they've been quite focused on just SVS IMO
Just a warning, I'm going to actually elaborate lol.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:28 pmThank youS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:23 pm@Justplayingitcool this is a reads post from earlier today.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pmProbably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.
Can you elaborate moreon the hal read?
@Justplayingitcool this is a reads post from earlier today.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pmProbably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.
Timmerman. Lol.
No it really doesn’t mean that. It means I’m comparing this to times I’ve seen you town and it doesn’t look the same to me.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:41 pmlol by saying ‘you don’t look like your town game’ literally means you have something else to compare it to.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:24 pmReread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.
And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.
I don’t even know how I’m playing in comparison to other games- I just am. Beans mafia (i think) I was hard pressed for time because I was moving and that one was definitely off for sure, and I can’t even remember the game after where I was the D1.
This all seems so nebulous
ebwop, and it wasn't in a good way lolS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:24 pmReread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.
And no, I've never seen you bad, or at least not since before my break. I didn't mention your bad game, though, I said you looked a certain way to me compared to your town game.
Reread her in your Se7en game. That's my town Rox standard. She looks like that to me here.
“Lie” is extreme, overlooking an OT post was more like it.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:31 amObviously saying my first mention of Timmer being bad was the list... was the lie.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:20 amI stand corrected; THIS was your first mention of Timmer:
A "jokey" implication he was evil.
Your SECOND post you mentioned Timmer was the list, where you had him as bad, and the third was your vote for him.
Not sure what "outright lies" I'm telling here.
The "evil" guitars thing, meh, I could call that just Day One trashtalk, but seriously, go look at your own ISO.
You still don't have it right.
Probably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
I stand corrected; THIS was your first mention of Timmer:
A "jokey" implication he was evil.
You’re leaning into it here; THIS sounds like a joke.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:15 pmEarrrrrrlier than that! I called out Roxy and timmer as the wolves WAY too early to even make logical sense, but that's ok because the info is from a psychic vision.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:14 pmOh I guess you have lolLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pmI do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone.Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
Checks out
What about this implies “just kidding”?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pmI do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone.Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
It could be seen that way, it just feels waffly to me, I guess. He put reads on zero posters, but chose not to on you. I may be reading into it becasue he also made that cutesy remark. It just felt like him trying to stay on your good side and not ruffle you up.hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:39 pmbased off his roxy/you reads he townreads me
so, good analysis
what makes u think of him withholding a tr on me?
strikes me more as opportunistic than appeasement, although it's partially the latter
based off how i played last game, w!LC would uh seek to handle me
This isn't my question, but a few things bother me. First, it feels like he's not so much defending Halyn, as trying to appease them, if that makes sense, with this remark:falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:24 pm
Talk to me about the list, what about it bothers you specifically?
followed up with not putting a read on Halyn even though he put reads on the no shows.I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone.Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
So he wouldn't be on your "no vote first time we played" list. That's why i asked.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue
Maybe LC, based on that reads list, maybe you based on fairly opportunistic looking Timmer vote. Have you ever played with Timmer?Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:09 pmGTH who would you vote right now?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:05 pmI have a set of ideas for tone with Town Rox, not unlike with Kate, she's easier for me to find than bad Rox, I got a clear picture of her town game from an adversarial position in Se7en, where I watched her very closely. Town Roxy has a wide focus, she looks at everyone, she doesn't much tunnel, and she evolves. So yes, especially since most of the limited talking has been generated by her. That's who I see here, and I don't recall ever seeing this when Rox was bad. So i won't town core anyone before voting/results, but I town lean her, yeah.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 amReading you and Roxy has been more of a cursory read, and from memory I didn’t recall you two interacting much less reading each otherS~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:25 amHave you read our ISOs?
I made a rudimentary reads list, and listed Roxy as "Trying to move things along, good look" (paraphrase).
Why would I "engage" someone for no reason? We had a small, couple posts, convo about low posters, but she hasn't said anything else I felt required "engaging".
So do you townread her atm based on what limited talking has happened?
No, wait it's only LC that is wolf/town reading people on one post. Somehow LC's list got attributed to Falcon.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:50 amLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pmI do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone.Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
Why am I town?
Why is Scotty scum?
Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:26 amI forgot to ask this earlier but I got a few questions:falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:50 am I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How do read Seanzie as town when they haven't posted at all?
How do you read Justplayingitcool as a baddie when they haven't posted at all?
You skipped "Hal" what is your read on them?
Why do you read me as a baddie?
I have a set of ideas for tone with Town Rox, not unlike with Kate, she's easier for me to find than bad Rox, I got a clear picture of her town game from an adversarial position in Se7en, where I watched her very closely. Town Roxy has a wide focus, she looks at everyone, she doesn't much tunnel, and she evolves. So yes, especially since most of the limited talking has been generated by her. That's who I see here, and I don't recall ever seeing this when Rox was bad. So i won't town core anyone before voting/results, but I town lean her, yeah.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 amReading you and Roxy has been more of a cursory read, and from memory I didn’t recall you two interacting much less reading each otherS~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:25 amHave you read our ISOs?
I made a rudimentary reads list, and listed Roxy as "Trying to move things along, good look" (paraphrase).
Why would I "engage" someone for no reason? We had a small, couple posts, convo about low posters, but she hasn't said anything else I felt required "engaging".
So do you townread her atm based on what limited talking has happened?
Have you read our ISOs?
All righty then. This looks like fault finding rather than a genuine concern. I think your paranoia is getting the better of you.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:05 amThis is such a strange dichotomy, because you’re saying here that you don’t believe in putting stock in metas, while also acknowledging that you have one that others that know you can pick out.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:49 pmFirst, I think self meta is mostly pointless since anyone can say anything they want to, but I think this is pretty much something anyone who knows me well could confirm.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:44 amSo I’m looking for you to be almost too smooth like baby’s assS~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:46 amIt does translate. Day one I play pretty much the same, i think. I tend to be a bit more haphazard when I'm town, say stupid shit, etc. I look for a hook when town, something that someone says that seems not right. Then I become kind of a PITA. But I need the hook. When I'm bad, I try to avoid "being" the hook. "Almost too smooth" someone called it once, and they were right. I'm never a PITA when I'm bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am]Spoiler: show
Never got into electric. Something about the tuning felt too naked when learning. But I like the idea of getting them to half pay.
You prefer support, eh? Does that also translate to mafia? Like, when you’re mafia, do you tend to hang in the background and not powerwolf, or does this analogy not relate?
Got it.
Do you not think you can replicate your town game as mafia?
So, yes, I could, but it would be awkward and weird for me to do so, and anyone who knows me would have to notice it. I'm so much more careful when bad, I polish my posts, reread them a few times, try to catch all the "becasue"s. I try harder to not say anything incendiary or that will annoy people too much. It's hard to fake carelessness, and my town game is more spontaneous.
Like, this is me maybe being paranoid for the nth game in a row now with you, because I don’t know what smooth or spontaneous looks like
First, I think self meta is mostly pointless since anyone can say anything they want to, but I think this is pretty much something anyone who knows me well could confirm.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:44 amSo I’m looking for you to be almost too smooth like baby’s assS~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:46 amIt does translate. Day one I play pretty much the same, i think. I tend to be a bit more haphazard when I'm town, say stupid shit, etc. I look for a hook when town, something that someone says that seems not right. Then I become kind of a PITA. But I need the hook. When I'm bad, I try to avoid "being" the hook. "Almost too smooth" someone called it once, and they were right. I'm never a PITA when I'm bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am]Spoiler: show
Never got into electric. Something about the tuning felt too naked when learning. But I like the idea of getting them to half pay.
You prefer support, eh? Does that also translate to mafia? Like, when you’re mafia, do you tend to hang in the background and not powerwolf, or does this analogy not relate?
Got it.
Do you not think you can replicate your town game as mafia?
First off, stop with the fucking this and the fucking that. We're hard to shock, lol. I make precise reads on you most games, because you ask me my opinion specifically like every game, since you seem to think I read you well (I assume, to be quite honest). I would prefer you not use my reads to beat people over the head with. Whether or not anyone agrees with me about you is only important, at the end of the day, to you.hal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:26 pmno i want to fucking see roxy and svs discuss me and have their differing views fucking matter and give off different stances and takes because they have different conclusionsfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:23 pmhal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:21 pmsure in another game, i brought up svs’s reading verbatim which roxy did not address. now roxy will address svs’s reasoningfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:20 pmhal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:17 pmisn’t my fixation on drugs nai?
Prolly the least towny thing you could say.
Do you have any reads? Lotta folks tossing you around, surely you have an opinion on some of em'
So, Roxy is a SR then, correct?
Is it solely because of the SVS thing, or is something else contributing to your read?
and the point was purely because of svs’s read, you can see the language be verbatim
To be honest and transparent, I already knew who you were, it came up in Admin since I was the one who approved Hal when he first joined.
It does translate. Day one I play pretty much the same, i think. I tend to be a bit more haphazard when I'm town, say stupid shit, etc. I look for a hook when town, something that someone says that seems not right. Then I become kind of a PITA. But I need the hook. When I'm bad, I try to avoid "being" the hook. "Almost too smooth" someone called it once, and they were right. I'm never a PITA when I'm bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am]Spoiler: show
Never got into electric. Something about the tuning felt too naked when learning. But I like the idea of getting them to half pay.
You prefer support, eh? Does that also translate to mafia? Like, when you’re mafia, do you tend to hang in the background and not powerwolf, or does this analogy not relate?
Probability and statistics math is not my strong point; but their math didn't fly for me tbh. Isn't every ones chance every randomization the same each time? I mean aren't the majority of the players in a second rerand going to come back Vanilla like they did the first time?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:06 amI figured as much in my read but you didn’t expressly say so.
I’m in the same boat of not wanting to vote for people I don’t know D1.
I also don’t know if I *do* scumread Hal.
Is your suspicion mostly hinging on the comment about math that i initially called them out on?
Mostly fluff and weirdness. Scotty seems to be trying to poke the thread and start discussion. I do think it's weird that he is asking you that question about not voting new to you folks when both of you took flak for it in a recent game, with Delta.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:04 amWhat do you make of those that *have* posted?S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:32 amWell, hopefully they show. Normally I don't love voting low posters or no shows, but the fact that 2 of the 3 wolves in the last game I played were no/low shows makes me a bit paranoid that way.
As I said V1, I'm home the next three days, so I should be in and out of here.
Well, hopefully they show. Normally I don't love voting low posters or no shows, but the fact that 2 of the 3 wolves in the last game I played were no/low shows makes me a bit paranoid that way.
* My friends son is trying to get this guitar for Christmas. My friends husband isn't sure the son is serious enough about it to justify the expense. It's acoustic electric which apparently amplifies the acoustic sound primarily for stage use; hubby isn't sure Sonny needs that. We'll see. My friend think she'll chip in half if her son manages to save half. But to get to the question, I'd play this. I think it's gorgeous, and since I failed at lessons, as an acoustic I wouldn't much be harrassing others when I play it.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:58 pm Ok time to get some discussion going
If we’re all part of a band, (all playing guitar) and some are trying to sabotage our show, I ask anyone that’s here:
-what kind of guitar do you play? What does it look like?
-are you more of a support or do you want the solos?
-what is your ideal venue?
Go
This is not your concern, thankshal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:19 pmWhat other drugs do you do?S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:38 pmNo. I knew I was planning to change jobs for a while, and I know how stupid bureaucracy can be.hal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:26 pmWill you test positive for pot?S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:58 pm So we have what, 4 no shows. That sucks.
I start my new job next week, today I have to do all the prep (I just got back from the drug test which is stupid since they mainly look for pot which is now legal in NY) but I'm here Fri-Sun for sure.
If worst comes to worst we can yeet Scotty for bad Dad Jokes.