The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

Reminds me of when I won Kill Bill Mafia by being Bill and getting killed.

That was my first win on TP, it is still dear to my heart

i was one of the, I forget the name, we were two opposing groups, that won as a group regardless of the main faction winner by outnumbering the other group. I was partners with Bleag.

No

Yeah that was the recruit that we got aapje. So I had 2 Dutchies, I was in Dutchie heaven. It could have been better, but then Llama killed Typhoony

reywaS wrote:I tried once to get recruited..the first public one. After that I became committed to staying neutral

We saw your photobucket info on the picture

Roxy wrote:
Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

I was dead by then, and while I tried to talk them out of it, since you had not looked our way even once, we thought the Judge was on Caelia becasue of the way when day ended, DH jumped in, voted for his best option, put in the kill on me, and then night ended. At that point I don't think we thought you were the Judge, I think we thought it was Timmer, but after you started getting indignant when people were suspecting you for your opinion on the two nights it became pretty clear, lol. I did not want to kill you, but it was not my call.

I wanted to recruit you. When we had the list challenge, you were one of the names I put on it, but the Judge was not one of the roles aapje felt to be most advantageous for us. Did you submit a picture to the picture challenge?

bea wrote:I first heard it from lorab waaaaay back in the day like first bts? Maybe second? I do admit it was something that wasn't really commented on by the name in game much. Mostly the debate as I remembered it way using the info vs not using it.

Lorab and Comfy used to argue about it; he was not a fan of metagaming

unfurl wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

juliets wrote:Unfurl, in my opinion you are right, meta is not a word we ever used at LP,the piano, or rev mafia. It wasn't used at TS at the beginning either. I can't put a date on it but you have been playing longer than I have and I consider it a relatively new word that describes a concept that we always used - we just called it something different.

The first use of the word on this site goes to SVS (under a sock name) in Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia.

I first heard it from Comfortably Numb who played with us for a while at all three sites Iirc he was a Dutch man maybe in his 40s. You must recall Comfy?

Yes, I remember Comfy, more from a game I hosted with LT at RM, I dont think I played much with him

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I just looked over at RM and the word did not come up, in the search, so this is the first place where I first saw it
my curiosity is been satisfied

Yeah, he played at LP & the Piano more than at RM as I recall. The meta discussions I recall were from LP. I had him in BTS during his first or second game playing with us, he originally came from a a different forum, someone else, maybe Jason Maher or Timmer brought him over to us. Nice guy, smart & fun. I would like to see him return.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

juliets wrote:Unfurl, in my opinion you are right, meta is not a word we ever used at LP,the piano, or rev mafia. It wasn't used at TS at the beginning either. I can't put a date on it but you have been playing longer than I have and I consider it a relatively new word that describes a concept that we always used - we just called it something different.

The first use of the word on this site goes to SVS (under a sock name) in Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia.

I first heard it from Comfortably Numb who played with us for a while at all three sites Iirc he was a Dutch man maybe in his 40s. You must recall Comfy?

Golden wrote:Hey, even when you are bad you really want other baddie teams out of the way. The person who cursed me might well have been a civ, I just don't know.

I played this game really badly, but it really was my first game ever where the affiliations weren't basically set up front and straightforward. It was quite an experience, and I clearly played it all wrong.

No you didn't, you played it like you. No guts, no glory, right? You never played a game like this before, so you forged your own way. It did not work, perhaps, but that does not mean you played badly. It means your strategy needed tweaking.

For me it had nothing to do with your civilian meta, Golden. I thought you pulled a ballsy move and then tried to bullshit your way out of it

Well if it was us, I am sure I will be corrected

I never go hard like that against someone unless I really think they are bad, regardless of my affiliation.

I don't think it was us. And I didn't "want you out of the way", I really thought you were bad.

I have to say, when I look back on it, to those on Ahriman & Azura, that aapje really did not actively work against you, even at the end.

Last night it was just he & I in the chat, trying to decide what to do. He did not steer the discussion. He had me talk it out, basically, and would not decide himself about what we would do with the rezz & switch. He let me decide. I actively tried, actually, to get him to decide because I was feeling unsure of myself, I knew we were using up our secret resource and I did not want to mess it up. But he made ME decide. And it probably was not the only time.

So, in his own treacherous fashion, he did the right thing by you.

MM hoarded that Rez and he was right to do so.

MM won a prize in the contest where people guessed how many per team. I also won the backstory contest with a story about Azura so we found out some of the roles on some of the teams.

I got switched Unfurl. I tried to switch it to MP.

Linki I meant other things, little things. I had a suspicion for days but when I found you had not chosen the team protect option that put me over the edge lol.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:A few things before I forget:
As Brutal Executioner my epic challenge was to kill one of each role class: Guardian, Warrior, Sorcerer, Children.., and Brotherhood.
If I succeeded, I would have become completely independent.

I don't think this was answered yet: Who killed Typh? It was not me. The chaos dancer switched around a bunch of powers that night and someone else used my kill on him. I ended up with the keeper of the ravens' ability and wrote the "CHAOS" post. I didn't want to put a target on anyone that early, so my only goals with that post were to have fun, and to cause confusion and pointless discussion for a short time

Fun fact: I tried to kill MM on the same night he recruited me I successfully pegged him as a Warrior, so he would have died if he wasn't immune.

My epic challenge was to become the last man standing on my team, at which point I'd become a SK.

I don't know if the rest of the team would have won had that been the case.

Actually I figured it out at the end and PMed Aapje, of all people, lol. Your decisions were not team player decisions. Awesome that I had two of you on my team ha ha

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Most posts?

Yep, I win.

Barely. :P

Roxy wrote:Yay for the winners!
Amazing game as usual BR and LC!

I liked being unrecruited and causing chaos with my abilities.
I lasted a lot longer this game by specifically trying to stay unrecruited.

SVS had your role pegged though, so we had to kill you.

Ricochet wrote:ayyy for crying out loud, MM was unlynchable again

Not like it mattered. Nobody tried to lynch me, and even the one attempted NK was by my own (future) teammate.

Ricochet wrote:I still don't get why I failed at every recruitement contest. Nobody wants me. That is, until I didn't...? Still don't know when I was recruited, because of the Hosts forgetting to tell me, lol.

I was only recruited via a non-contest contest.

thellama73 wrote:This is my first time playing an outed baddie. It was fun.

Isn't it though?

Canucklehead wrote:Lulz, Apple monkey. Fantastic job.
Great game, hosts.
Thanks, team! Sorry I was useless.

Did you at all enjoy the role I created?

No you didn't have to kill her. You insisted she was recruited to Caelia. That was why you killed her, after I argued against it might I add

I considered an all Dutchie first list but felt both Typh and Aapje would be too predictable so I went with Tranq because Survivor

I chose two people I had never had BTS with before; G Man because i thought he would be fun and I know he's smart, and Rico because no one would ever expect it and I would like to get to know him better both as a player and as a person. But I got my first pick. Like bea said best team building strategy, recruit people smarter than you

Yup he was our second recruit.

Bullzeye wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Yay

This is the first time I have won one of these.

Congratulations

Did your team know aapje was a dirty four-timing traitor or are you just as shocked as we were? I feel like JC and OA must have felt in Lost: Rev.

No idea. I am glad he did not bus us though, at the end. Was he in all the chatrooms or just the bad ones?

Also Devin says he did not kill Typh, so who did?

Yay

This is the first time I have won one of these.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Does anyone have results of the Nutella lynch? I am curious about who did NOT vote for her. I am curious if the same people did NOT vote for Llama as well.

Linki @Llama, wow, excuse of cornered baddies everywhere~ Target Redirectors!!!

Occams says she rezzed you. I believe it. id YOU vote for Nutella, Llama?

Occam's razor has led me astray many times in mafia. I don't remember who I voted for.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:The "freakin" was not aimed at you, llama. It's just the frustration of having 1 more vote. Just wanted to clarify

No offense taken, old friend.

I just went & looked. You waffled between MM & Rey for silly reasons, mostly (you like ties, apparently) and never mentioned Nutella at all. Oh and you were rezzed right in the middle of her lynch.

Linki, right becasue why waste your NKs on people you think you can lynch, amirite?

reywaS wrote:Welcome back, S~V~S!

Does anyone have results of the Nutella lynch? I am curious about who did NOT vote for her. I am curious if the same people did NOT vote for Llama as well.

Linki @Llama, wow, excuse of cornered baddies everywhere~ Target Redirectors!!!

Occams says she rezzed you. I believe it. id YOU vote for Nutella, Llama?

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I am going to vote for 24 & for Llama. Nutella rezzed him, is there any doubt? While Devin is also suspish, a rezzed baddie is the MOST suspish.

I have to do some catch up here, I have only really read the posts and skimmed somewhat, I have had a brutal week irl. But i read enough to know that the confiremed bad rezzer rezzed llama.

Linki, no, i just have one.

You should really vote for Devin. He's the devil.

Devil = Devin. Obvious really.

Are you seriously saying this or is this a joke? You were rezzed by the baddie team rezzer, lol. You're bad, no silly word play required. Devin might be bad too, but it is guaranteed that you are bad, my friend.

I am going to vote for 24 & for Llama. Nutella rezzed him, is there any doubt? While Devin is also suspish, a rezzed baddie is the MOST suspish.

I have to do some catch up here, I have only really read the posts and skimmed somewhat, I have had a brutal week irl. But i read enough to know that the confiremed bad rezzer rezzed llama.

Linki, no, i just have one.

Hello

Stop thinking in only four dimensions.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Five votes piled onto Synonym within a half an hour? That's a little

Well, i don't feel comfortable about voting Wilgy or TH tbh. I do feel good about Rico & (ironically) DH. I have no reason not to trust the Keeper. Not sure why Wilgy piled on, or Devin, though.

What are your thoughts on Synonym?

Linki @BR whatever works for you

I don't really think anything about him, as he has barely posted. He seems like a non-entity to me, and while I am fine with killing off low-posters in general, I am a little more concerned about finding the really dangerous bad guys at this point. Their powers scare me.

He does not interest me via being a low poster; he interests me as Russti was playing a pretty baddie game from the opening bell. And by his vote post being a justification for a vote. A civvie would actually care enought to pay attention, whereas a baddies motto is "Whatever so long as it isn't us".

thellama73 wrote:Five votes piled onto Synonym within a half an hour? That's a little

Well, i don't feel comfortable about voting Wilgy or TH tbh. I do feel good about Rico & (ironically) DH. I have no reason not to trust the Keeper. Not sure why Wilgy piled on, or Devin, though.

What are your thoughts on Synonym?

Linki @BR whatever works for you

Yeah, i think I will vote for Synonym. I don't love the No U aspect of this, but he posted a flawed case, then did not stick around to discuss it with me. Plus Russti pretty clearly was playing a blendy game and was doing so from the opening bell. I feel more strongly abou this than about TH and convenient or not, I don't like voting for the silenced.

*Votes Synonym*

Ricochet wrote:Well, I'm noticing that appje, LoRab and SVS share similar ideas on the connotations of a rezz (stuff like automatic recruitment, unannounced recruitment or "secret team") and the motivations of an recruited or unrecuited rezzer (the latter two are even synchronous in saying they'd either abstain from rezzing or rezz Typh the fun chap, heh). I guess it comes with past experience. I declare myself at a loss with this and with no prior experience to think about such connotations. I simply declared what happened, what my status is once returned and how little I can project of the Shaman's intentions. Make of it what you will.

We all come from the same place and while I missed the first World Apart game, I think that was 2007 or 2008, I did not start playing util 2009, otherwise I am fairly sure I have played all the games of these hosts. I think Lorab HAS played all of them, not sure about aapje.

I did not play the LOST game with the secret animal team, but it was legendary. I had a secret team in American Gods. It happens.

Linki, it depends on the host.

Well, more than 50% of recruited by this time would be civ, i would think. So

I had pretty good feels from Rico before he died, and I agree that he seems about the same.

I have played a few games with rezz recruits, and they were not announced.

And that had no bearing on you, Rico, I worded it badly and meant no insult. I think it would be fairly obvious I meant Typh; I would have rezzed him were I a neutral with a rezz. But I don't think most people play for the same reasons I do. Fun > winning.

EBWOP, re syn, it felt like a justification for a vote.

thellama73 wrote:SVS, where do you reckon you'll vote today? I find your gameplay oddly soothing and confidence-boosting.

LOL, that does not sound very good. And oddly, I can say the same about you to some extent, but probably in a different way.

I have decided to backburner my previous supicions for reasons I said earlier. I am leaning towards Syn. Having reread Russti, I am not inspired with confidence that he was even neutral, much less civ. Synonym came in acting like BTS. While there IS civ bts, his hasty incomplete case felt faux to me.

You?

Linki @ Rico, I would either rezz someone that was a fun player if I were unrecruited, or not use my rezz at all. I would not rezz someone playing a strong game as it could bite me in the ass. While I could see civ reasons for denying being recruited, I would automatically assume the rezzed person had been recruited. Not necessarily by baddies, but not neutral.

Also Hi Keeper

*waves*

Lorab, while i don't necessarily agree with your stance on Rico as he has seems pretty transparent to me (for him)~ but, then, i know him better; I wanted to know why YOU voted for TH, becasue I tend to understand you, and vice versa. Becasue I am not sure I am getting it.

Canucklehead wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I got all of my BBQing out of the day yesterday with the Socialists. I am sunburnt and a bit hungover,

I love you, SVS

What better way to celebrate Labor Day? Besides, the Anarchists were busy.

Thanks, Bullz. I guess, that always strikes me as a way to impress the skimmers, multiquotes of big posts while actually saying nothing yourself. And yeah, lol. I am about to reread Syns posts on me.

Oh nvm, 14 & 15 came in a row for Wilgy, then 16 & 17 for TH. Still, though. I don't think there would be that many people on any one BTS team, so just coincidental.

What I have found interesting is that as soon as Wilgy goes over, someone comes in and votes TH and ties it up. From the 13th vote on, which first tied them up, from Scotty.

I reread TH & Russ, not Syn yet.

Russ made 9 posts, most of them multiquote impressive looking affairs that did not really say much of anything, something I tend to associate with baddies. Like he was just making posts in order to make posts. Since he quoted an entire long ass post of Bullz just to say, "Thanks, I agree", I checked Bullz posts for a reply to him and did not find one. @Bullz, tell me, what was your opinion of Russti, and have you formed an opinion of Synonym? If you don't have one in either case, I can't blame you, I did not either until now. But someone who used one of my posts as a starting point for a pretty pointless post always gets noticed by me; I was curious if it was the same for you.

TH, on the other hand, is playing the blendy non commital game i would expect from a neutral TH who lacks Captain Obvious in his chatroom egging him on I reread him in isolation though, so need to read some in context to get a better feel for him. But he has had controversial opinions, and has been fairly blunt and to the point, like during the discussion of why someone who had a lynch switch would use it. I saw no really manipulative posts, or posts where baddie TH pulls out his "aw shucks, farmboy" thing that he can do when he's bad. I have not seen civ TH, either, but he isn't claiming to be a civ as far as I saw.

Having read him, I need to reread the case on him.

I got all of my BBQing out of the day yesterday with the Socialists. I am sunburnt and a bit hungover, so i am skipping todays BBQs and staying home.

I plan to reread Turnip Head since he has so far skipped below my radar and I want to see whats the hub, bub. Plus Syn's weird plucked out of context case on me got my eye, so I am going to reread Russti/Syn.

Wilgys silencing seems a tad TOO convenient for him today, BUT it could be real, perhaps the silencer is civ/neut and feels he is good, and is protecting him in this way, I have done that as a civ silencer. Plus, as i said, I doubt that he would have switched a lynch to DH, regardless of alignment, so i think that was more likely to have been done TO him than BY him, perhaps to set him (or me or someone else, lol) up. So I won't be voting for Wilgy unless I have no choice.

While I will keep watching Bullz~ that one remark of his that someone else mentioned, about the gossips post being a waste or something to that effect, did sound pretty pissy, which i associate more with bad Bullz, BUT I often feel that way about gossip so He started participating, not just watching, so i will backburner him.

Same for Sorsha, not sure if I think that bad Sorsha would have No U'ed me, plus my thoughts on her were totally based on the Golden thing and her posts on that. So also there.

Now nutella.

Whatever.

And why Lorab now?

No he has not.