Not for wolves. Wolf Alison loves to yeet town slankers like "We can't leave this slot around forever."falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:15 pmLynching slankers D1 is always suboptimal.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:44 am Kate townslipped. She's been using the green text all game to represent stuff that's from an out-of-game perspective and that she wants to make sure people know is genuine and not speaking from her role PM. She included "it would be a bad move for town to vote me out" in green text because she was telling the truth about requesting a sub out and accidentally said too much in her "trust tell" font.
Roxy hasn't returned and is either totally checked out of the game or totally frozen mafia. We should get rid of her because we can't leave her around generating question marks forever.
If only there was a recent game where Maf absolutely trounced Town cuz' of this very thing...@DrWilgy , remember?
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- Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:39 pm
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- Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:10 pm
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Which is why you should help me yeet Alison. Because she's using a strategy that makes sense for her as a wolf, not a townie.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:02 pmWell, ya I mean for Town. 'Natch it's a wolf stratJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:39 pmNot for wolves. Wolf Alison loves to yeet town slankers like "We can't leave this slot around forever."falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:15 pmLynching slankers D1 is always suboptimal.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:44 am Kate townslipped. She's been using the green text all game to represent stuff that's from an out-of-game perspective and that she wants to make sure people know is genuine and not speaking from her role PM. She included "it would be a bad move for town to vote me out" in green text because she was telling the truth about requesting a sub out and accidentally said too much in her "trust tell" font.
Roxy hasn't returned and is either totally checked out of the game or totally frozen mafia. We should get rid of her because we can't leave her around generating question marks forever.
If only there was a recent game where Maf absolutely trounced Town cuz' of this very thing...@DrWilgy , remember?
While I'm burning a post, here are some reads.
Town
Lucy
SPF
Falcon
Sig
Townish
Seanzie
Baudib
Tutuu
Fingersplints.
Special place for players I don't have a read on but won't support yeeting D1
Creature
Scumlean
Wilgy
Scumread
Alison
These are unordered btw.
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:17 pm
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Alison's strategy itg is almost identical to her strategy as a wolf here
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Push slankers cause we can't resolve them anyway and push players who suspect her because they're "outed" without really explaining why in a coherent way.
Kill. With. Fire.
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Push slankers cause we can't resolve them anyway and push players who suspect her because they're "outed" without really explaining why in a coherent way.
Kill. With. Fire.
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:08 pm
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People told me this in the game I linked to when she was a wolf acting exactly the way she is now. Frustrating.lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:57 pm Alison should never die d1, baudib is towny and he's playing towny, those wagons suck
jack
porscha
Roxy
neon
@MacDougall @Alison @staypositivefriend try to pick a name here and drop a small case on them and include your confidence, i'll read their iso's among other things
and today i want to choose the lynch because of how horrible the wagons are now, and because of the 5 mafia that exist
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:11 pm
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I'm literally leading a yeet on a wolf right now. How much more useful do you expect me to be?Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:52 pm Jack = W is probably the strongest D1 wolf I’ve had in over 100 games. T!Jack will generally find a way to make himself useful very early and be obvtown.
After that I am less sure, I’d suspect 2.5 in this group that is blatantly wolfsiding:
Wilgy
Neon (incorporating MacDougall read here)
Falcon
Seanzie
Porscha (incorporating tutuu read)
Occasionally 1 in Creature/Rondo/Alison/SPF/Bereft and even lower frequency in Mac/tutuuu (but something like 1 in 300)
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- Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:15 pm
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Your push on me is so ill advised that you've become a bigger wagon than me even without me pushing you at all.Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:13 pmJack: you and I both know, so just remember when we play another game for higher stakes, bub.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:11 pmI'm literally leading a yeet on a wolf right now. How much more useful do you expect me to be?Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:52 pm Jack = W is probably the strongest D1 wolf I’ve had in over 100 games. T!Jack will generally find a way to make himself useful very early and be obvtown.
After that I am less sure, I’d suspect 2.5 in this group that is blatantly wolfsiding:
Wilgy
Neon (incorporating MacDougall read here)
Falcon
Seanzie
Porscha (incorporating tutuu read)
Occasionally 1 in Creature/Rondo/Alison/SPF/Bereft and even lower frequency in Mac/tutuuu (but something like 1 in 300)![]()
Everything you're complaining about me doing, you're doing. I'm not doing enough by just pushing Alison? You're not doing enough by just pushing me.
Only I'm pushing a wolf and you're pushing a townie. If you really are town and you really can't get over this, at least do something else useful so people stop thinking you're a wolf.
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:21 pm
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You are frustrating.Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:18 pmBub you can’t even make a half-convincing case that you’re unaware of my alignment. I’m not the one trolling the thread with useless nonsense. I have plenty of other thoughts on other people in the game, and you don’t.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:15 pmYour push on me is so ill advised that you've become a bigger wagon than me even without me pushing you at all.Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:13 pmJack: you and I both know, so just remember when we play another game for higher stakes, bub.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:11 pmI'm literally leading a yeet on a wolf right now. How much more useful do you expect me to be?Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:52 pm Jack = W is probably the strongest D1 wolf I’ve had in over 100 games. T!Jack will generally find a way to make himself useful very early and be obvtown.
After that I am less sure, I’d suspect 2.5 in this group that is blatantly wolfsiding:
Wilgy
Neon (incorporating MacDougall read here)
Falcon
Seanzie
Porscha (incorporating tutuu read)
Occasionally 1 in Creature/Rondo/Alison/SPF/Bereft and even lower frequency in Mac/tutuuu (but something like 1 in 300)![]()
Everything you're complaining about me doing, you're doing. I'm not doing enough by just pushing Alison? You're not doing enough by just pushing me.
Only I'm pushing a wolf and you're pushing a townie. If you really are town and you really can't get over this, at least do something else useful so people stop thinking you're a wolf.
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:49 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Why are there only 6 votes on the board?
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:49 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
What are ya’ll doing?
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:50 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Day 2? ![😒](//twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/svg/1f612.svg)
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]
FFS.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:04 pm End of Day 1 - Now Who's Flailing?
"Three balls for $1! Put a friend in the seat and try to dunk them," a carnie calls out, juggling the balls as he tempts people to come and give the dunk tank a whirl. The line here is longer than most of the other games. It's comprised mostly of teenage boys eager to show up their buddies. You stand in line to purchase an elephant ear and as you wait for your delicious deep fried pastry to be done, you idly watch one after another miss the bullseye target. Then suddenly there is a loud DING! The small plank drops, dumping fingersplints into the large vat of very cold water. The group of friends gathered around to cheer and jeer at the unfortunate soul who now flailed, trying to fight their way back up to the top. Aren't those things supposed to be more shallow than that? The laughter subsides as the realization dawns on all the observers that fingersplints was in real trouble. By the time they fish her from the water, they are limp and lifeless. So much for their fun day at the fair.
fingersplints has been chopped. She was Vanilla Town. It is now Night 1, card draws will be going out momentarily and you will have until 7:00 PM EST January 7 (tomorrow) to turn in your night actions in your private channel.
The thread is now locked for the night.
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- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
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- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:56 pm
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Aww darn you got me but I guess I’ll double down and hope for the best. Maybe reverse psychology will keep you from yeeting Alison, who is wolves with me.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia
Looking at jack and sig
A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P
(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:57 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Shh. Go study.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:53 pmI'm on winter break. Semester doesn't start until the 18th.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia
Looking at jack and sig
A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P
(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:58 pm
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This is what I’ve been saying. It’s grossly blatant to the point when I’d actually agree with Tutuu on the bussing thing if I didn’t independently townread Sig and myself.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pm Alison is doing a play by play exact replica of King of the Hill. I can't get over that lol its exactly the same.
Like
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Exactly the same. Every single aspect of it.
I kinda town read the switch off on Kate but than I remembered that a very similar thing happened to the wolf team when I subbed out in KotH mafia for mental health reasons and they abandoned the Neon push because they thought my subbing out was town indicative because of the way it was done.
- Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:55 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Sorry, Alison. Hope you’re right on Roxy since that’s the way things are headed. Will try to dig further into things since I have few reads atm. Least I got two EODs to look at for the price of one.
Tonight is date night, though.
Tonight is date night, though.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:09 am
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Eeeeh for certain values of date night. No shade at the wifey and we’ve had all day together and she wants to play pokemon so I guess I’ll stick around and be game useful
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:12 am
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This might have merit. Not really what I was looking for but put a pin in that idea.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:36 pm This game has all the traits of tvt violence and in a way that would be quite difficult for the mafia to justify getting involved in. Players like Wilgy, Roxy and Falcon are coming across like they have an obscene amount of town self entitlement even if I disagree with them (and was scumreading them), and on the flipside so does Baudib, Lucy etc.
What is the major hypotheses being debated?
Alison is mafia
Lucy should be trusted/listened to
A giant group of players who are opposite aligned to Alison are all scummy/bad/wrong/annoying
What is not being discussed?
Fingersplints is scummy as hell
Kate didn't get any townier at all
SPF's casing of Creature is being largely ignored and if he was town, I'd expect the mafia to be shining a lot on it
Tutuu/Neon capping early
Rondo's weird as hell holding of the Oracle claim
I am very tempted to townread and largely ignore everyone who is giving heaps of fucks about the former set of theorum and want to cast my glare at the people who are more passive at the moment, particularly those whose names are in the above.
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:07 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
This is a bit reactionary, but I don’t like Lucy’s insistence here it’s game over or “throwing” if Alison is voted. No one person is game ending.How can anyone read this justification and think that is legit?fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:14 pmI did not plan on voting her at the time. I said I thought it was a playstyle clash. But I also think now one of those need to resolved or else it will plague us the entire game. And I like the posts of the other players with votes more than her.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:10 pm fingersplints didnt you just tell me like 24 hours ago that you thought alison and baub were town vs town.....? so do u believe this and ur voting alison for the sake of proving a point to lucy? or do u actually sr alison now?
And also yes, I disagree with Lucy’s posts
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:15 am
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I felt Alison’s wagon was pure most of D1. Have read only the smallest part of D2. Going through EOD1 and D2 now.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:12 amWhat's your take on Alison's wagon? Give us some thoughts on Roxy, sig and myself plzJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:09 am Eeeeh for certain values of date night. No shade at the wifey and we’ve had all day together and she wants to play pokemon so I guess I’ll stick around and be game useful
Had good feelings about you and Sig yesterday. Alison died saying kill Roxy but I don’t have much in the way of independent thoughts on Roxy yet. If I don’t answer this better later, kick me.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:18 am
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No shade on Neon either but why Neon? Like it’s bothersome for me to have a handful of townreads and see Neon who was null for a lot of players (maybe this is outdated consensus) shot, especially after voting Alison a fair amount D1.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:21 am
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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:16 am Do I have to get naked for you people to remember my name?
8-O
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]
I think his pfp is kinda bad and maybe he is too.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:56 pm The thing giving me pause about my gamestate, and humouring flipping my evaluation upside down, is Alison and Baudib shielding Creature in case that wasn't obvious.
Firstly, I still think SPF's case on Creature has been the most thorough and well reasoned argument anyone has made the entire phase. On top of that SPF has been possibly the towniest person in the game. In spite of that, she's been largely ignored in favour of this repetitive argument that's like the universe vs. Alison. I also just don't think Creature has been towny.
Is there a world in which Alison, Baudib, SPF and Creature are all town.
SPF and Mac would need to be wrong about Creature. Corrected by two players who are largely suspected by a huge swathe of players. I guess it's plausible in that way.
The question one moustache is ... is Creature really towny enough for Alison and Baudib to be this defensive of him? Or is their defense shielding a partner? Or is it TMI?
@Jackofhearts2005 @DrWilgy @falcon45ca What do you three think of Creature?
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:26 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
While I’m asking stupid questions, why were FS and Baudib ever serious wagons? That’s not me being a dick about it. I really wanna know.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:30 am
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Yeah that doesn’t look great for Creature if Roxy is a wolf.
I rank Tutuu’s convincingness of w/w treatment cases as
Creature/Roxy > Creature/Sig > Creature/Porscha
I rank Tutuu’s convincingness of w/w treatment cases as
Creature/Roxy > Creature/Sig > Creature/Porscha
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:32 am
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I feel like I should be offended by this. I’m a lot funnier than Creature.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:35 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]
Mac probably just town on gad levelMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:14 pm Legacy
Upper POE -
Rondo/Lucy (I really don't get how the non Oracle between them makes sense as town)
Jack/Baudib1 (different)
Lower POE -
Sig
Creature
Fingersplints
If Alison survives today and a town elimination occurs add Alison to my upper POE.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:54 am
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- Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:55 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Oi Mac. Tell me who I should scumread besides Roxy and Creature.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:48 am
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- Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:50 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Lucystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:30 am can everyone respond to this post with their top 3 most confident townreads?
ty
SPF
Falcon
Mac if Lucy doesn’t count
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:36 pm
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This is my feeling so far. In all my catchups, I haven't seen any actual posts from Roxy. Makes me a bit antsy but I'm trusting my townreads on it. Plus, I don't have any reason to townread her and my next biggest scumread is Creature and well, see number 3.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:40 pm
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:48 amNot the best excuse to unvote Roxy but idk how Creature treats wolf partners
FTR, Creature almost immediately moves back to Roxy after Alison poopoos the idea of yeeting me over Roxy and Baudib says he disagrees but will follow Alison.
I don't really know if this does much for my "Creature w/w with Roxy" read but it feels relevant.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:45 pm
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So...I didn't get a chance to respond this because the day was cut short and I'm doing so now out of politeness/teamwork, even though its less relevant and I don't have great answers.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:59 pm@Jackofhearts2005 - please respond to this post as soon as you canstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:52 pmit means scummy, and it also means that if we live in a world where she's town (which i do perceive as being more likely right now than not) at least one of the people who wagoned her is a wolf trying to push on her opportunisticallyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:56 amDoes icky mean wrong or scummy in this context?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:35 pm i don't claim to have any level of confidence in reading alison correctly but i do honestly feel like the main reasons ive seen to justify voting her have been more related to her playstyle than her alignment
feels kind of icky
If scummy, who is scum pushing or voting Alison?
and jack, i actually perceived your read on alison as being the most sincere out of everyone who has pushed on her so far, since you were more or less the "ringleader" for building momentum against her and i perceive you as being the main person who is projecting a lot of confidence about her being mafia
but your confidence is starting to bother me the more that i think about it. it's possible that you're right about alison but frankly i think your reasoning for pushing on alison is pretty bad. i don't think the things that you are pushing alison for (ie: "she is treating people in bad faith") are alignment indicative for alison, and i do expect you to understand that these things aren't alignment indicative as someone who has presumably played a lot of games with alison
so, while i think it's possible that your read onalison could be correct, your confidence about alison being mafia doesn't feel even slightly proportional to the actual casework you have done against her, and my memory of the other towngames i saw from you is that you were much more considerate and you had a much broader perspective than the one you are projecting here
so uhhh, i think what im going to need from you for me to not want to vote you today is for you to just talk to me very broadly about your reads that AREN'T alison. if alison was no longer on the table today, who would you want to eliminate? if we briefly assume for a moment that alison is town, what would ur view of the game look like?
Honestly, Alison was my far and away strongest scumread. I didn't have much in the way of others. Just vague gut suspicion of Wilgy and iirc, some suspicion of Creature that was mostly sheeped from you or Mac (though that might have come after the post I'm quoting). Sometimes, it's just like that. I tend to collect some townreads and get pinged by one player and latch on like a bulldog until I bring my scumread down or they change my scumread on them. Sometimes, I have multiple scumreads but often, D1-D3 or pre flips, I just don't and in this case, I just didn't. I know that's not super helpful wrt finding additional wolves or getting town to townread me but it's just the reality of things.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:46 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Pre WOLF flips, that should say.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:47 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
If Alison is right, here, she has to literally only be talking about Sig, which is ???Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:00 pmIt's not a bus, they are just outing to kill me. It's why none of my voters can give a coherent reason why I am mafia and it's why I feel great about the game because the mafia team has overextended way too much and it's hard to imagine the game ending well for them unless you guys totally throw after my flip (in which case it's on you).tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:58 pmI cant tell you that far/deep, this was just my solution when i thought to solve the problem "whats the reason behind the pressure on alison that i cant understand/justify (coming from jack and sig maybe seanzie, rondo, forgot who else)"Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pmDo you think that if that is the team, Alison is the one they would be bussing? I find it unlikely but I’m not really in touch with the meta of the players involved.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia
Looking at jack and sig
A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P
(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
From roxy, dennis, finger, neon - i understand and justify it, its the emotional turbulation having an impact, so i dont think its w/w there
Cause I'm town and Neon flipped town. Why was Neon killed? I don't get it. Wasn't Neon a yeetable option who had been wrong?
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- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:50 pm
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- Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:53 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Creature kinda just lolcatting at this point.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:14 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:10 pm So Alison was scum and it was probably with Roxy and/or Kate. She reevaluated on Jack at EOD to make it look like it was Jack, but it was Roxy all along. Baudib is probably still a patsy town, as is obviously Lucy. Some nerd like Sig is mafia and then probably something derpy like Falcon.![]()
Really hate that most of the relevant ketchup posts are Creature related or from dead players.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:00 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Alison's legacy is to yeet Roxy and then Neon.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pmRoxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).
I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.
If Creature is a wolf, especially with Roxy, why shoot Neon? Even if Creature and/or Roxy were town, why shoot Neon?
I better see Neon do some obviously town thing because it's really bugging me that I'm the only one who cares about this angle.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:06 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Mac probably still just town but his little midday crisis here is probably important if he ever flips mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pmShit I need to bus someone. Um, ah. Fuck um.
[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:13 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Oh, right. I knew that. I just didn't think that it would have been applied to the NK.Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:08 pmThe Tower card was played, so all night action targets were randomized, including NK.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:47 pmIf Alison is right, here, she has to literally only be talking about Sig, which is ???Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:00 pmIt's not a bus, they are just outing to kill me. It's why none of my voters can give a coherent reason why I am mafia and it's why I feel great about the game because the mafia team has overextended way too much and it's hard to imagine the game ending well for them unless you guys totally throw after my flip (in which case it's on you).tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:58 pmI cant tell you that far/deep, this was just my solution when i thought to solve the problem "whats the reason behind the pressure on alison that i cant understand/justify (coming from jack and sig maybe seanzie, rondo, forgot who else)"Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pmDo you think that if that is the team, Alison is the one they would be bussing? I find it unlikely but I’m not really in touch with the meta of the players involved.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia
Looking at jack and sig
A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P
(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
From roxy, dennis, finger, neon - i understand and justify it, its the emotional turbulation having an impact, so i dont think its w/w there
Cause I'm town and Neon flipped town. Why was Neon killed? I don't get it. Wasn't Neon a yeetable option who had been wrong?
While I'm using a post, I just finished my EOD1 and D2 ketchup and I'm frustrated that most of my nulls (Sabi/Kate, Rondo, Bereft, Portia, Seanzieish [townlean for reasons I forget] and Roxyish [scumread for reasons that don't have anything to do with Roxy's posts]) just flat didn't post in that time period.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:25 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Lol ouchstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:28 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Feels fake.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:21 pm Are you guys fucking kidding me? You seriously killed Alison. I am so fucking pissed right now. I am done for now. Ill come back later If I can give a shit
Btw, getting (and I know this didn't exactly happen) green peeked by Lucy and red peeked by Seanzie on a night where everyone was redirected is very on brand for me.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:29 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Like why would this come as a surprise? The moon got played and there were people who suspected Alison?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:21 pm Are you guys fucking kidding me? You seriously killed Alison. I am so fucking pissed right now. I am done for now. Ill come back later If I can give a shit
Moreover, Rondo did fuck all to defend Alison.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:39 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
This is kinda dumb cause like....I do exactly that when I'm a townie accused of being w/w with my top suspect but whatever.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:43 pmThis post:Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:12 pmAre you able to elaborate on what lead you to that conclusion then plsSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:50 pmno bro, don't you know that if I did I couldn't say it but hey it isn't the case anyway, so sit down and just drown in the fact that "Mac and Jack ate a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat" is a fact that I deduced by being a sleuth, reading the thread, using my head. No cards jarred these facts that I spread.
Is a wolf who is saying "Haha, you're pairing me with a townie, you think you've caught me but you're right for the wrong reasons and it will fall apart when Alison flips". Jack HAS been got, just not for the reasons Tutuu is putting out.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:56 pmAww darn you got me but I guess I’ll double down and hope for the best. Maybe reverse psychology will keep you from yeeting Alison, who is wolves with me.tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia
Looking at jack and sig
A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P
(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
I don't remember the specifics behind Mac, but I'm sure they were breathtakingly convincing, and could stand alone without considering that Mac is eating villagers for breakfast left and right.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:15 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
Give me your opinions.
Frustrated by Roxy basically throwing out naked reads and then being like "aaaand I won't be back."
Logically, that's wolf indicative if anything but if it's just a townie who is in a bad spot and doesn't have time to devote to the game....sucks. Not a lot of way to evaluate it. I still think the best thing to do is to follow Alison's legacy but I'd just feel a lot better about it if Roxy was around EOD1 or D2 or D3 so that I could properly evaluate her myself. 39 posts and it just feels bad to be this locked in.
I'm sure people are gonna call this me defending Roxy if she flips wolf and tmi Roxy was town if she flips town but the truth is I'm just saying this stuff because it's what I feel in my heart and idk how to project townieness other than to just say everything I feel.
- Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:44 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
I feel like I’m being gaslit. None of this helps Alison not get yeeted?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:13 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:29 pmLike why would this come as a surprise? The moon got played and there were people who suspected Alison?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:21 pm Are you guys fucking kidding me? You seriously killed Alison. I am so fucking pissed right now. I am done for now. Ill come back later If I can give a shit
Moreover, Rondo did fuck all to defend Alison.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:10 pmhave you not read the game? What is going on here?fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:07 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
This is a bit reactionary, but I don’t like Lucy’s insistence here it’s game over or “throwing” if Alison is voted. No one person is game ending.
Lucy is either Town or IC and I am either IC or Town. We have both CCed each other as Oracle and have not resulted in a dome. Lucy and I are town core. She is more productive because I love chaos so I am happy to give her the lead on the lynch while I do my own thing. Stop doubting her. Both sides of the Oracle want Alison not going over today. (But I would like more Alison posts closer to EOD so I can soul read her)RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:23 pm @sig
@Jackofhearts2005
@Roxy
@fingersplints
@falcon45ca
Alison flips town > who are the wolves on your wagon? Who are the town?
Alison flips wolf > who bussed? who is pure?yep fuck all.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:42 pmhost clarified, no lynch no second lynch, just bupkis. Alison will not be lynched
- Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:46 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:04 pm this is a great game with solid communication and im fully enjoying myself
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- Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:58 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
So like I’m massively pinged by Creature. SPF and Mac have made meta cases against Creature. I want to yeet Creature. The closest thing I have to a reason not to do this is recently being wrong on Alison and a probably illogical worry that I’m going to receive more pressure and have less thread pull with a t!Creature yeet than a t!Roxy yeet. This does not override my scumread but it is in my brain.
Alison said to yeet Roxy. Roxy has done fuck all. Roxy has scum equity w/Creature. I want to yeet Roxy but given I haven’t read any Roxy posts that I didn’t specifically go looking for in her iso and given her very short iso, I don’t feel as confident there as I feel on Creature.
I’m hoping these are both wolves and it doesn’t fucking matter but in the spirit of working with my townreads to make them more affective, fucking order me from one wagon to the other as you will @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @tutuu.
This is also partly so I don’t get SPF twisting herself in a knot trying to figure out if I’m bussing or distancing or saving or whatever.
I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.
Alison said to yeet Roxy. Roxy has done fuck all. Roxy has scum equity w/Creature. I want to yeet Roxy but given I haven’t read any Roxy posts that I didn’t specifically go looking for in her iso and given her very short iso, I don’t feel as confident there as I feel on Creature.
I’m hoping these are both wolves and it doesn’t fucking matter but in the spirit of working with my townreads to make them more affective, fucking order me from one wagon to the other as you will @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @tutuu.
This is also partly so I don’t get SPF twisting herself in a knot trying to figure out if I’m bussing or distancing or saving or whatever.
I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.
- Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:01 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]
It’s honestly not worth considering if I’m a wolf at all because even if I was, you’re not yeeting me before [your suspects here] so it doesn’t honestly matter.