The Syndicate

Good morning

I am thou. Thou art I. Etc

Falcon probably town.

This is me trying to be at least minimally helpful.

Wish I’d rand mafia. After a year and a half of only randing town, im probably garbage. Might as well get it over with.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:46 pm Wish I’d rand mafia. After a year and a half of only randing town, im probably garbage. Might as well get it over with.

Bruh you were good in Hot Fuzz.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:46 pm How does Baudib even have any reasonable idea of what the correct and incorrect world views are at this point in the game?

Well, I think it's in context to T!Creature opposing my "Wrong world view."

I still think that line of thinking is wrong. I think wolves having TMI are more inclined to support a rigid world view in general, but I could be wrong on that thought process.

I totally forgot about that game.

Speaking of forgetting about games, nobody listen to my Wilgy read when I make one.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm @lucy what is SR?

Super rare. Bronze ring around the figure’s base. Like a 50-50 chance to pull one or none each booster.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm Thoughts on Jack? I guess he gives me KOTH vibes but want a second opinion.

I hope I’ve done like nothing ai at this point.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

??? I think I've made 2 posts. Why are you looking at me?

This is an outing reaction by the way. This is literally a wolf asking "why me?" This is someone who doesn't understand how they've been caught off 2 posts.

I would dayvig this if I had a gun.

I'll bite.

Why is this a wolf asking "why me" and not a townie asking "why me?"

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 pm

Spoiler: show

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:32 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm

I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.



Get hyped.



What's your take on Wilgy?

lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go

Yeah, but it's D1...weird reason to SR him IMO

The same can be said to literally any wolfread rn. Gotta start somewhere.

No, that's not true. Lots of legit reasons to SR a player can & do emerge D1, but to SR a player just cuz you feel they have 0 wolves in a list of 3 is utter crap

Once again, no it isn’t. Pushing wrong world views is exactly what scum do.

lookin cute flushed emoje

I found an avatar for you.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.

Creature has hit a towntell of his which is quietly and nakedly sheeping me because he has gotten it into his head that as town I am always right and as mafia I'd feel obligated to bus. Regardless of whether you agree with that I believe that he believes it and so him acting in accordance with that is his town meta.

What does one even do with nonsense like this?

It's hard not to read it as a wolf trying to look like a townie that believes her shit doesn't stink.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:16 pm In the absence of doing anything villagery, Jack is pretty votable imo.

You might as well vote for someone that isn't even in the game since we have the same odds of actually being yeeted.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:03 pm snipped bc reasons-----

Hey Roxy, have you played with Creature before?

No why does it matter? It doesn't in mafia. Bad posts are, well, bad. It's why we ask questions and expect answers. It is the towns only weapon.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:10 pm I have played with Kate for years and have no read. You must be psychic or a better player than I.

Highlighted pink text is contradictory.

This doesn't feel like a townie looking for wolves. This looks like a player arguing.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.

Creature has hit a towntell of his which is quietly and nakedly sheeping me because he has gotten it into his head that as town I am always right and as mafia I'd feel obligated to bus. Regardless of whether you agree with that I believe that he believes it and so him acting in accordance with that is his town meta.

What does one even do with nonsense like this?

It's hard not to read it as a wolf trying to look like a townie that believes her shit doesn't stink.

I'm just good at reading creature what can I say

if you have a problem with the reasoning feel free to explicate it

It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"

It's a pretty solid tell and I think I know Creature's meta better than you. He is certainly exhibiting it (he naked voted Kate right after I rallied a wagon on her).

Why are you waffling on whether or not I'm bad town or scum? I feel like the Jack I know would just lay it down as Alison wolf without feeling the need to second guess himself.

If you want me to just wolf read you, I'll just wolf read you.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm [VOTE: creature ] aubergine

Oh don't worry, I'll get to you, Jess.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:05 pm It's just a nonsensical tell that Creature isn't even exhibiting to begin with. It's frustrating being like "Is this obviously wrong town Alison or faking wolf Alison?"

It's a pretty solid tell and I think I know Creature's meta better than you. He is certainly exhibiting it (he naked voted Kate right after I rallied a wagon on her).

Why are you waffling on whether or not I'm bad town or scum? I feel like the Jack I know would just lay it down as Alison wolf without feeling the need to second guess himself.

If you want me to just wolf read you, I'll just wolf read you.

I think it's wolfy of you not to have done so from the start tbh.

I actually dig the SPF Creature case in a vacuum. Not voting there, though.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:10 pm I keep thinking there are 4 mafia but trying to remember there are 5. Quite a lot. I wonder how many ive wrongly townread already. Lol if all 5

also i know it's a very stupid and level 0 tell but i think this post is probably town indicative because whenever someone expresses confusion about how many wolves they are, theyre town roughly 80% of the time. it's a tell that wolves usually don't think to make bcuz u have to yield ur TMI kind of weirdly to come up with that type of thought as a wolf

Rejected.

The only reason I'm not voting for Alison is because Alison gave me shit for "not scumreading" her and it has reverse psychologied me into not wanting to vote her.

But that's not a good reason. Alison's posts are the worst I've read and she's >rand scum. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

what feels gross about it?

It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.

You know what's nice @MacDougall ?

Polls in mafia games.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf

While SPF is quoting it, legit I'm more or less focusing on Alison and SPF because of this post and recent historical games where I've correctly scumread Alison and/or SPF when they were wolves and most players didn't.

I've not liked Alison's posts about others or reactions to my posts about her.

I have liked SPF's posts about others and her reactions to my posts about her.

Fwiw.

#hedging

#cantbesuperwrongifyouhedgeattheend

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

what feels gross about it?

It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.

Alison is well known for not being convinced kate and roxy are scum

Rephrase?

I'm saying I don't expect you to make that post as a townie unless you really think Kate is scum and it is part of an effort to yeet your scumread.

You're saying you don't think Kate is scum. That's not contradicting what I'm saying so I feel like one of us is misunderstanding the other in this exchange.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm I think jack is outed for insinuating that alison would never go balls to the wall trying to kill a player d1 for doing nothing

Didn't you push this kinda narrative last time I correctly scumread you? Just like blanket certain scumread with no oomph behind it?

Maybe it's just an Alison thing in general but it feels familiar one way or the other and I'm gonna go check in a bit.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

what feels gross about it?

It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.

Alison is well known for not being convinced kate and roxy are scum

Rephrase?

I'm saying I don't expect you to make that post as a townie unless you really think Kate is scum and it is part of an effort to yeet your scumread.

You're saying you don't think Kate is scum. That's not contradicting what I'm saying so I feel like one of us is misunderstanding the other in this exchange.

It was sarcastic. I'm saying it should be very clear that I'm convinced Kate and Roxy are scum so you saying "this post only comes from town if Alison thinks Kate and Roxy are scum" is a meaningless read. Roxy even scumread me for how convinced I was that Kate was scum.

Gotcha. Well, I'm gonna be looking at your original reasons for scumreading Kate anyhow because it's relevant to this and SPF is asking about it/went back and found it for me. We'll see if that changes my

read on you or nah.

can ya'll not ninja me when I accidentally click the submit button on my broken touchpad? bleh

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:20 pm why do u think that alison's reads are wolf-indicative? i thought that the original post she pointed out from kate was legitimately wolfy, or i could at least understand why someone would take issue with it. do u think the ppl she's pushing (kate/roxy) are town?

I think they sound fake and agenday, incomplete analysis aside.

I don't have a read on them.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:20 pm Only > rand, not even >> rand. smh

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

what feels gross about it?

It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.

okay

so then what do you think about alison's original reason for pushing on kate? do you think it looks like alison is talking about kate in a bad faith way?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.

because i can understand why the thought of: "this player isn't doing enough" could be wolfy to say about someone this early into the game, but i also feel like you're singling out that specific post from alison without seeming to factor her original reason for pushing kate in the first place into your analysis. it feels like incomplete analysis

Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.
As a former math teacher, >> is an incorrect use of > signs.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.

This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.

what feels gross about it?

It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.

okay

so then what do you think about alison's original reason for pushing on kate? do you think it looks like alison is talking about kate in a bad faith way?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.

because i can understand why the thought of: "this player isn't doing enough" could be wolfy to say about someone this early into the game, but i also feel like you're singling out that specific post from alison without seeming to factor her original reason for pushing kate in the first place into your analysis. it feels like incomplete analysis

Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.

uuuuugh I double ctrl ved into my notepad. Oh well. You can at least tell what I'm saying even if it looks boomerish

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:10 pm I am back. I see Porscha and Jack have outed even further.

Yeah. This is very similar to wolf Alison has treated town Jack in the past as a response to me suspecting her.

Kill with fire immediately.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:36 pm Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.

okay. i dont find promises of future content either, but i do think that specifically saying: "i will need to read this part of the game again' on page 2 of the RVS phase can be indicative of a wolf who feels insecure about not being towny ~enough~ and is trying to cover for it by acting like they're going to post more content later. i noticed myself doing similar stuff when i was wolfing in hydra game 4 so i think it can be a legitimate wolftell with the right context

i think i somewhat agree with you that some of alison's reasons for pushing on ppl are flimsy/could be perceived as bad faith but i also dont particularly think this is alignment indicative for alison

So you're saying Alison is bad at catching wolves when she's town?

@Alison

Why aren’t you voting me if I’m outted?

well, since we can all agree that Alison and Roxy are either w/w, v/w or v/v, we should infoyeet Alison.

Also, just assume that everything happens for a reason, including rands.

Ergo, you can townread Seanzie, me, Creature, Falcon, Porscha and you can scumread Alison, Wilgy.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:09 pm Some people are born great
Others have greatness thrust upon them
Sometimes you should just yeet Jack

I mean, in theory, you should try to yeet me every D1 to immediately determine my alignment.

In practice, I'm obviously town so what are you doing?

Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:12 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.

Wrong we are obv w/w

I know you're the last person I have to say this to but I just don't think that Alison ever asks for or her teammate ever feels the need to chainsaw defend her with a meh push on me. Like you let Alison handle it herself, you silence me with nks, you bus Alison. She doesn't want or need your help.

sweet

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:03 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:49 pm

I did. I read his ISO carefully.

I'll ask again. Where is this happening? Please point out specific instances.

This is not a serious post. Do you believe that Jack believes we should yeet him D1 every game in order to determine his alignment? Do you believe that he really thinks he should be considered obvtown?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm
I mean, in theory, you should try to yeet me every D1 to immediately determine my alignment.

In practice, I'm obviously town so what are you doing?

This is a nonsensical post with no reasoning or previous post supporting any of these conclusions.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:07 pm Also, just assume that everything happens for a reason, including rands.

Ergo, you can townread Seanzie, me, Creature, Falcon, Porscha and you can scumread Alison, Wilgy.

This is another useless post that says nothing. Yes, we can conclude that Roxy-Alison is one of three possible groupings. This is lolcatting,

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:06 pm well, since we can all agree that Alison and Roxy are either w/w, v/w or v/v, we should infoyeet Alison.

The joke is that I'm unyeetable as town so you should try to yeet me so that you either get a wolf yeet or it fails. You've successfully identified three jokes. Good job?

Sig reads genuine.

Timezones are hard. Hard claim not quite gay?

Lol we have 24 hours. Goodnight ya’ll.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:50 pm I don’t have any opinions on anyone’s reads lists.

That's concerning to the point of me doubting it's truth.

@Creature, we just going to ignore my reasons for my wr list that I posted earlier?

I think I don't know creatures wolf range well enough, I can postulate both "maybe I'm in argument with a town that communicates differently from my expectations" and "damn, creature is putting down some scummy posts."

The things you are choosing to focus on and talk about and place importance on just don't feel like relevant and town mindset things to me.

I kinda believe this. I a lot want to believe it because it would be funny if Wilgy was a wolf again.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:34 pm Off topic first-world problems rant with a happy ending

Spoiler: show

So I am trying to buy a house, and today I found out that the mortgage I was expecting to get no longer existed because of some stupid issue with terms changing in 2023 that my mortgage broker didn't realize until just now. I could still get a mortgage, but the terms were significantly worse, and I was bummed out all day and have been calling around to try to find something closer to the terms that I was going to get before because the difference was like $35k over 10 years, which is kinda significant to me. Anyways, after calling around and mostly getting terms that were slightly better than my original lender could do, but still way worse than what I've been budgeting for and planning on up until this morning, I eventually got terms that are actually quite a bit better than my original terms, and should help me build an extra $10k in equity over 10 years, which is pretty cool. If I wouldn't have spent so much time today figuring this out though, I wouldn't have gotten this, so in a way, I kinda made an extra $45k today. Was super stressful today.

Dope. Good job. Buying a house sucks, especially now. Owning a house is pretty rad, though.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:35 pm i don't claim to have any level of confidence in reading alison correctly but i do honestly feel like the main reasons ive seen to justify voting her have been more related to her playstyle than her alignment

feels kind of icky

Does icky mean wrong or scummy in this context?

If scummy, who is scum pushing or voting Alison?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:38 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:17 pm It’s late and I got tired of reading the thread as a whole, so decided to focus on specific players instead. Started with Alison and Roxy. I think Alison comes off worse in the exchange.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:36 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:35 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:24 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:21 pm Oh honey. that was not guns blazing, you have never played with me but you act like I have tells. If you want a tell look at Felt Mafia 2. I was bad with Kate, SVS and Epi. We never suspected each other let alone voted for each other. I protect my teammates. I do not bus. Which is why we won that game with all four of us still alive. The new players such as yourself do not play this way. (see my baddie game w/lucy LGM) New players mostly all want passes to D 4 so they have info to go off of. OG players like myself find our actual suspicions in the thread. We do not vote without reasons or otherwise we would be the next elim.

1) This is going to be a copypasta after this game is over
2) This is an incorrect characterization of "new players"

do not know what copypasta is but it sounds horrible so no thank you?
I think it is pretty accurate tbh

You don't really get to choose whether or not it's a copypasta, also you are extremely inaccurate and I know much better than you on this topic.

I can see why Rox is annoyed with comments like this. I think posts would go down better if explained why you think it’s inaccurate rather than just saying “well I know better.”

i dont particularly like this post because it doesnt really seem like youre trying to evaluate alison or roxy's alignment here, but you still say that alison looks worse from it

you can say that alison looks worse in the sense that she was rude to roxy, but do you think that alison looks wolfy for being rude to roxy? feels like the two are being conflated as though they're the same thing

I should just stop asking you questions and assume you’re gonna follow up.

I understand this post and think it is a genuine thought from town!SPF. (I’ve missed seeing obvioustown SPF and am super happy to see her, here.) I disagree that it is scum indicative for Fingersplints, though, kinda knowing FS.

Like I read it as more
TownFS: “This is where the communication problem exists. I’m getting bad vibes from Alison and this is Alison’s fault. Ergo, I subconsciously wolfread Alison and think she comes off worse even though I’m pointing out where frustrating communication is happening.”

And less
WolfFS: “I’m looking for an excuse to shade townAlison. I’m evaluating the exchange and I can’t help myself to honestly point out the frustrating communication and oops I forgot to say what is actually wolf indicative about Alison’s play. Whoops. Whoopsie!”

Don’t take that townFS check to the bank but that’s how I’m reading it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:50 pm I don’t have any opinions on anyone’s reads lists.

That's concerning to the point of me doubting it's truth.

@Creature, we just going to ignore my reasons for my wr list that I posted earlier?

I think I don't know creatures wolf range well enough, I can postulate both "maybe I'm in argument with a town that communicates differently from my expectations" and "damn, creature is putting down some scummy posts."

The things you are choosing to focus on and talk about and place importance on just don't feel like relevant and town mindset things to me.

I kinda believe this. I a lot want to believe it because it would be funny if Wilgy was a wolf again.

You've been accused of trolling this game. Do you feel that's at all accurate? Do you think you've been solving?



Got 3 Town & 3 Scum and a few blurbs as to why?

I don't think I'm telling a significantly different amount of jokes and I don't know why "trolling" would be scum indicative from me anyhow. Seems like a silly accusation and I'm more or less ignoring it.