The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:37 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:09 am Reading through Jack. Is this the post of someone who then goes on to participate in a sig NK? It doesn't seem likely.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:48 pm Oh man, we shoulda lynched Sig. Sig's always good for a lynch.

I think the sig kill can be perceived as a favorable point for enough players here that it becomes moot: sig was killed. Someone did that. There aren’t enough new people to build a four-person team on this reasoning.

We also cannot be certain the kill was intentional.

On Night 1, there were 3 non mafia roles with powers. All of them have secrets but none of them appear to have misdirectional abilities.

I think the Sig kill was intentional.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:28 pm I don't have any inferences I'm willing to share (since at least one of them is impolite).

I've served a purpose in this, and I'm fine with it, and am satisfied that nobody gets what I've done. If people lynch me for my approach here, then you can deal with them after Night 3. Or not deal with them. I won't be around to care.

[mention]Long Con[/mention]
What does this mean to you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 11:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 11:53 am JaggedJimmyJay
I answered the questions you asked.

I don't know what to do when you quote a post like "Yuck" or "Jack isn't providing a read here."

Yeah, I haven't provided a lot of reads. So what? I'm sorry you've got food poisoning or something.

"Yuck" is not a question for you to answer.

It is an observation.

"Disgusting."

Disgusting yourself. You shoulda known Epi was cooking you naughty naughty man.

The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: epi.

le sigh

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
I answered the questions you asked.

I don't know what to do when you quote a post like "Yuck" or "Jack isn't providing a read here."

Yeah, I haven't provided a lot of reads. So what? I'm sorry you've got food poisoning or something.

Once I'm done with this, I'm gonna take a look at Jimmy. I like to be able to Captain America or Gilgamesh at people who are attacking me but since I don't have anything but a gut read on the man, I'm on the defensive. This is especially problematic if Jimmy is bad because I won't be able to "convince" him of something he already knows.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:09 am Reading through Jack. Is this the post of someone who then goes on to participate in a sig NK? It doesn't seem likely.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:48 pm Oh man, we shoulda lynched Sig. Sig's always good for a lynch.

This is a point in my favor but not for the reason you're thinking.

I wouldn't nightkill Sig. Sig gets mislynched all the time. He'd literally be the last person I'd choose to nightkill.

If I was bad, getting to lie and say "He'd literally be the last person I'd choose to nightkill" is worth maybe a bit of town cred. A mislynch would be much better for the scum team and Sig is a walking mislynch. When I'm bad, I target players I'm worried about catching me like Jimmy (who effed me up good in an HCRealms game and daykilled me in Phenon) or players like Mac who might latch on and never let go but his suspicions will be forgotten if he dies. I might kill DDL for his tendency to bad read me. I might kill INH or Pennywise because they aren't playing anyway and sometimes, I kill quiet people early to make the game more fun.

But Sig, who is a gimmie lynch (sorry, Sig) and Dizzy, who I like and haven't gotten to play with in awhile and who failed to lynch me when we went toe to toe in Mass Effect? I'm not killing those folks.

Meta shit like this isn't convincing but idc. It's the truth.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:09 am Jack, below is the post where Epi asked me to vote with him. He then suggested DDL but I declined to vote DDL because I felt like he was town. I didn't feel like he was giving up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:29 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm I read through wolbre and didn't see anything that excites me for a vote, plus I like what Mac had to say about him. I still don't like his voting Epi and then leaving without having heard Epi's side of things but I think thats probably a cultural thing. It may not be a big deal where he comes from whereas it was where I come from.

I am not keen on voting for you, and I get the impression the feeling is mutual. I suggest you and I come up with someone who isn't you or me and we vote together.

K. This is evidence Epi hadn't given up, right?

Here are posts where he has

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 78#p440678

(^This one actually means there may be something to LC's RB hint theory)
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p440695
"I don't care about being lynched"
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p440714
Jack: You're not acting like a townie. What are you even doing?
Epi: Fucking horses

This is silly. Can anyone honestly stand here and tell me that I was supposed to recognize Epi's townie effort when I'm asking him to show it to me and he's like "No"?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:27 am Jack, one thing I couldn't grasp when reading through your posts is why you saw LC as bad. Maybe it missed it but could you give me a run down? Do you still see him as bad?

I don't think I ever did? I definitely voted for him over Lap because I town read Lap, not because I thought LC was bad. Iirc, my reaction to the LC train was something like "LC's gonna be mad at us lol" cause it happened about 5 min before EOD.

I joked at the start of the day phase with him that maybe he was bad because he said Epi might have hinted who he blocked but we don't actually know if Epi was activated. Like the mafia starts with powers and most of the town starts vanilla. But I don't actually believe LC made this mistake because he's bad and forgot most the town starts vanilla. I don't actually think LC is bad. Hence ":p"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:45 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:43 am The fuck I’m not.

I called out people for misreading/lying about mechanics every game and get into strategical tunneling pissing contests with DDL on a regular basis.

Yeah, it does make perfect sense. He got vig killed the very next night.

What a load.

Is that right? Appreciate the confirmation.

I don't know or care about "strategical tunneling pissing contests". You lamented that we should have lynched Epi and have now explained that away with "Epi was always going to get lynched". That's nonsense. You're bad. See your way to the noose, please.

Yeah, you do, cause that's part of your case against me. You said I don't scumread people for being illogical so I should be lynched. You want me to make you a list of players I've lynched (good and bad) for being illogical? Do you care about this or not? Cause if not, what's your freaking case? Beyond that you're just posting crap like "You're bad" "You knew Epi was town" "You're Ganondorf" which is not a case. It's just being loud.

Don't get me wrong, I've relied on being loud when I needed a lynch (thought for sure I was right about a scumread or else I was bad) but just because I bully into a lynch doesn't mean I'm going to let you do it to me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:40 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:20 am i dislike the interpretation of epi wanting a more ideal lynch than the ones that would have been easier to get as being equivalent to giving up

Epi gave up on his own defense. A number of people theorized he was the unlynchable baddie because he almost seemed to be trying to get himself lynched.

What number was that?

Three people said they thought it was a possibility. One person thought it wasn't likely. One person just asked about it but didn't weigh in.

Do you think I should have known Epi was a townie? (And don't say "Yes, because you're scum." You know what I'm asking. Was there townie behavior to be found?)

Pro tip: Don’t start defending yourself from start of day accusations at 2 am when you’re working from home the next day. I can do better and I will. For Lap.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:45 am [quote=Jackofhearts2005 post_id=441460 time=1525934613 user_id=541
The fuck I’m not.

I called out people for misreading/lying about mechanics every game and get into strategical tunneling pissing contests with DDL on a regular basis.

Yeah, it does make perfect sense. He got vig killed the very next night.

What a load.

Is that right? Appreciate the confirmation.

I don't know or care about "strategical tunneling pissing contests". You lamented that we should have lynched Epi and have now explained that away with "Epi was always going to get lynched". That's nonsense. You're bad. See your way to the noose, please.
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I’m sure the vigilante agrees with me.

I’d love to say something cool like “I hope he takes you out next” but my aimlessness this game isn’t an act so I don’t know if this is a setup or if you’re just wrong.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:41 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:38 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:20 am i dislike the interpretation of epi wanting a more ideal lynch than the ones that would have been easier to get as being equivalent to giving up

Epi gave up on his own defense. A number of people theorized he was the unlynchable baddie because he almost seemed to be trying to get himself lynched.

Kinda like when he tried to team with juliets to vote for someone else.

I don’t see what this statement has to do with the statement you’re quoting. I don’t even remember Epi trying to team with Juliets to lynch someone else and if he did, it doesn’t change that my statement is true.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:43 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:40 am You don’t like that I’ve been unsure and treated a townie who wasn’t acting like a townie as boot a townie.

Yeah I didn't say any of that. You knew he was a civilian.

Based on what?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:35 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Why? Cause he wasn’t hunting. He wasn’t being logical. He was being stubborn and problematic and was going to get himself lynched (or vig killed) eventually.

I had a town read on Sprityo. Better to get rid of Epi as a suspect earlier if he wasn’t going to be anything but a distraction than lynch Sprityo. Duh.

Jack just said "he wasn't being logical" as a component of a justification for a lynch pursuit. Jack is not one of those logic bots who cares about that.

Lynch this man.

"I wish we would have lynched Epi because he was going to get himself lynched eventually"

Makes perfect sense.

The fuck I’m not.

I called out people for misreading/lying about mechanics every game and get into strategical tunneling pissing contests with DDL on a regular basis.

Yeah, it does make perfect sense. He got vig killed the very next night.

What a load.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:37 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:21 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:18 am i paused the fireblight ganon boss battle in order to read ur isos don't feel down

I appreciate it. In so doing you've helped to uncover the dark truth that Jackofhearts2005 is himself Ganondorf, the Great King of Evil, the Dark Lord, he who contains the wretched beast Ganon in the Dark World under the great pyramid.

Overreaction much?

Overreaction to what?

I mean if you think I’m a goon, fine, but it’s a bit over the top to call me dark lord, great king of evil. Not like your case is that I’ve been caught summoning demons and sacrificing virgins.

You don’t like that I’ve been unsure and treated a townie who wasn’t acting like a townie as boot a townie.

*more jerk off gifs*

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:20 am i dislike the interpretation of epi wanting a more ideal lynch than the ones that would have been easier to get as being equivalent to giving up

Epi gave up on his own defense. A number of people theorized he was the unlynchable baddie because he almost seemed to be trying to get himself lynched.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:21 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:18 am i paused the fireblight ganon boss battle in order to read ur isos don't feel down

I appreciate it. In so doing you've helped to uncover the dark truth that Jackofhearts2005 is himself Ganondorf, the Great King of Evil, the Dark Lord, he who contains the wretched beast Ganon in the Dark World under the great pyramid.

Overreaction much?

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

Why? Cause he wasn’t hunting. He wasn’t being logical. He was being stubborn and problematic and was going to get himself lynched (or vig killed) eventually.

I had a town read on Sprityo. Better to get rid of Epi as a suspect earlier if he wasn’t going to be anything but a distraction than lynch Sprityo. Duh.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:23 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:13 pm Epi may have signalled on Day 3 who he N2 blocked.

Epi might not have had a block N2 or did you forget because you are bad?

That is really reaching.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:35 pmLolwot

Wot?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 9:13 pm Epi may have signalled on Day 3 who he N2 blocked.

Epi might not have had a block N2 or did you forget because you are bad?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 8:45 pm Wow - thats a shocker. Why would they kill someone who was suspected by many?

This happened to Epi two games in a row...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 6:30 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:32 pm Scum reading Epi as the unlynchable baddie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:30 pm I feel really lost this game

You aren't just feeling it.

Thanks, Epi. Thanks for helping.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:04 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:32 pm Scum reading Epi as the unlynchable baddie and town reading Sprityo were my strongest reads and townreading Juliets is my next strongest read.

You can understand why this would be really frustrating.

Town reading me is correct though.

Oh wait thats not what you meant lol. Just ignore me. I just woke up from a nap.

I’m pretty sure that is what I meant lol

Scum reading Epi as the unlynchable baddie and town reading Sprityo were my strongest reads and townreading Juliets is my next strongest read.

You can understand why this would be really frustrating.

I feel really lost this game and it’s pissing me off.

Somebody link me to all the best cases.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 8:07 am I'm going to have to re-evaluate my reads. I tend to think one of Pennywise, INH, and I guess Dom are bad but that leaves 3 more that I've got marked as "good" must be bad. I feel the need for some GTHs to get a feel for some reads. If not during the night maybe we can do some tomorrow.

Base on....probability?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:51 pm @Jackofhearts2005 @JaggedJimmyJay

do you think Epignosis would act the way he has if he were the unlynchable pheonix wright looking dude with the round face

Yes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:26 pm I swear if many people had their way around here, civilians would never win games.

If civilians had their way around here, civilians would win games.

I don't know what that means.

"Many people" do have their way, because they are civilians.

I still don't know what that means.

Epi is showing off his counting skills.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

No.

Also because if Epi is bad and he wins, I will feel stupid but if he’s good and he gets himself lynched by playing this way, I won’t feel bad at all.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:20 pm I really wish we had lynched Epi.

What the fuck for?

So people can wring their hands about wishing they had lynched someone else?

Grow some balls.

If you want me, come and get it. Post some really compelling shit that brings me down.

Do it.

Cause aren’t doing anything at all to help the town.

I really wish we had lynched Epi.

I’m starting to suspect Mac.

Is that silly?

I imagine scum Mac is just same old bulldog but barking in all the wrong directions.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:45 pm why did we not lynch epi?

No clue.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:32 pm And now we wait 14 hours.

Oh wait. I’m not hosting.

speaking of give me my banner

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:29 pm 3 min?

Sticking with Epi. I don’t think Sprityo is bad.

Check out the TMI on this guy

And now we wait 14 hours.

Oh wait. I’m not hosting.

3 min?

Sticking with Epi. I don’t think Sprityo is bad.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:13 pm Quin, are you able to give us an exact deadline?

14 minutes. Please make sure you're announcing your votes so I know which ones count.

Timecheck

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:15 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:11 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:10 pm I'm not 100% sure of either of you.

I'm 100% sure of Avito's alignment.

I was talking about a Day 2 read.

Epignosis is tied for the tally lead.

He doesn't like a lynch of sprityo, his tie buddy.

He doesn't like a lynch of juliets, the only other person in decent range.

Is he a mafioso?

I never give up no matter my alignment so I don’t know what to do with a player who does.

Game theory say scum going for pitty (or in this case confusion?) but that doesn’t bear out irl.

Either way, it’s annoying.

When’s eod?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:54 pm You better not be civ.

Acting like a jester...

So what do you think of Sprityo and Kyle?

Sprityo has had some decent sounding accusations against him (Dys had one that escapes me and now the player salad and Indy hunting) I tome read him good, though.

I don’t have an opinion of Kyle. Can’t remember any of his posts.

I missed Sprityo defending me. That’s nice of him.

You better not be civ.

Acting like a jester...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:42 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm DDL voted for me for a stupid reason (like I owe him a Kylemii vote explanation), and if you vote for him, then that makes it 3-DDL, 4-Epi, which means you will be unlikely to be lynched, and I'm fine with that.

Oh gosh Epi I'm seeing DDL as town. I'm trying to understand what Jay is seeing in wolbre, thinking I may have missed something. If you have to vote for me go ahead, I understand and it's just a game.

If he's a civilian, then he's not doing a very good job.

As I said, I'm not keen on voting for you. I suspected you Day 1, but you came through and the clouds have passed.

I don't care about being lynched.

If you’re a civilian, you’re not doing so hot yourself. Not doing so hot regardless of alignment, really. What are you even doing?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:27 pm ISO Jack. I have to leave.

Please don’t. It’s embarrassing.