The Syndicate

If GM pushes a townie into lynch, it is SC’s failtz

Like seriously DH and Speedchuck have magnets in their pockets. The kinda magnets that won’t stay together if you don’t hold them in place.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:44 pm I don't feel comfortable with DH or K-Ness being in the lead yet.

And I don't want DH to leave until I am.

Therefore tie meta.

But mafia GM.

Also

Omg Speedchuck has been role hinting when we thought he was talking about playing Megaman!

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:57 pm Wilgy is our swing vote. The rest of the Jack wagon moved to DH vs K-N

Heaven help us.

Speedchuck is probably Fartman but who knows if he’s town or not.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:42 pm

Honestly, I don’t see evidence that most of those powers have been used at all, much less in a way to point towards one being you and also town.

Unless I missed you being like

I love
America
My home
I
Come from the
East sides
Making
All the scum lynches
Now

I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:29 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:21 pm Jackofhearts2005 If you had to place me in a role, where would you put me?
Haven’t really given it much thought tbh. Same for all players, really.
Maybe you should give some thought to t

I think you’re Doctor Wily.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:24 pm
K-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:23 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:21 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 pm K-Ness I find it more than a little strange that you've ignored my points, I'm feeling neglected

I'm sorry. I missed them. Can you reiterate?
No

Lol. Well if you don’t even know then I’m not going to tell you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:21 pm Jackofhearts2005 If you had to place me in a role, where would you put me?

Haven’t really given it much thought tbh. Same for all players, really.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:05 pm His dick?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:05 pm Jack I have no particular Civ read on Chuckster.

If DH is bad, do you also see Speed waffling around trying not to tip the scales onto him?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:59 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 pm K-Ness I find it more than a little strange that you've ignored my points, I'm feeling neglected
What do you think of DH?
I can't bite the bullet on him being scum. My gut won't let me.

See if you can pinpoint why your guy likes him.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:58 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:50 pm Since I’m too lazy to look for it right now, does anyone @Long Con @Turnip Head @Kylemii have a good reason to think Speed is not teamed with DH or that Speed is town at all?

As a reminder, Speed basically threw up his hands and said he couldn’t read Luna and voted Simon over Marmot despite not really having a strong opinion on Simon.
Now we're talking. Get it out of your system.
Not til I see something from you that solidified my read or proves me wrong. That’s how this works.
I'll give you something when the time is right.

If the something is a nightkill, you’re pretty hilarious.

(I have so many gifs that I need a daykill to use appropriately and I have no daykill.)

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 pm K-Ness I find it more than a little strange that you've ignored my points, I'm feeling neglected

What do you think of DH?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:50 pm Since I’m too lazy to look for it right now, does anyone @Long Con @Turnip Head @Kylemii have a good reason to think Speed is not teamed with DH or that Speed is town at all?

As a reminder, Speed basically threw up his hands and said he couldn’t read Luna and voted Simon over Marmot despite not really having a strong opinion on Simon.
Now we're talking. Get it out of your system.

Not til I see something from you that solidified my read or proves me wrong. That’s how this works.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:43 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 pm [VOTE: KNess] aubergine
They've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down

[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
If Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.

Like a rubber band is attached to it, you just can’t seem to put your vote where it should be for very long.
Where should my vote be?

On DH.

Since I’m too lazy to look for it right now, does anyone [mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] [mention]Kylemii[/mention] have a good reason to think Speed is not teamed with DH or that Speed is town at all?

As a reminder, Speed basically threw up his hands and said he couldn’t read Luna and voted Simon over Marmot despite not really having a strong opinion on Simon.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:41 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
It's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)

What if roles appear once they've been fully used?
I have reason to believe this is not the case.
Okay thanks.

linki: if you're going to suspect me, get it over with Jack. That goes for TH and DH and all you other clods.

I suspect you. I’m just voting a player I suspect more.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 pm [VOTE: KNess] aubergine
They've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down

[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine

If Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.

Like a rubber band is attached to it, you just can’t seem to put your vote where it should be for very long.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
It's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)

What if roles appear once they've been fully used?

I have reason to believe this is not the case.

Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:16 pm And why use Gemini Man unnecessarily?

Yeah, no need to use cutman and GMan if both are scum with Marmot.

And probably the imprisoner too.

Too many powers. Magnet man might have accidentally grabbed cut or Gemini but in that case, there’s no slip probably.

I like your conclusion, LC, but that’s kinda crazy.

I tend to find more credit in mindset slips than mechanical ones cause mechanical ones can just be brains going on autopilot.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:57 am Looking back, Jack and I both gave KNess a bit of a hard time during Night 3 but slid into attacking Marmot for Day 4

Okay but if you know you’re town and if I’m town, what does this mean for Kness?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:56 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:24 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:23 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head

Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
Right now, at this precise moment in time, I'd prefer to lynch him over Jack or DH
Why?
This post with some hindsight makes Marmot/Luna/KNess look compatible to me.
Also I just realized he left me out of that post, even though I was on the Luna bandwagon and had a few noteworthy comments surrounding it. idk what that means exactly, it's just interesting that I'm the only person on that 9-vote wagon that KNess didn't talk about at all. Maybe it's tough for baddies to give reads on me so he just... forgot to, idk idk.

Anyways I don't think it's too harsh to say that these could be read as the perspective of a mafia member who had just lost a teammate.

Can you unpack why you think this as opposed to Kness being town or 3P?

There’s confidence in the townieness of townies and alive players. There’s shade at Marmot and Kyle. There’s not really anything I see tying Kness to Luna in there and not a strong tie to Marmot considering Kness has had similar “bad feeling” reads on other players.

A friendly reminder that the mafia very likely has an extra vote that can be placed at the last moment. We do not want tied or close to tied wagons at EOD.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:23 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head

Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
Right now, at this precise moment in time, I'd prefer to lynch him over Jack or DH

Why?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:16 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:14 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:06 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:02 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:57 am As to his "meta", I assume you mean his very sincere "Hey wink wink guys wink if me and Knees were bad wink wink wink wink we would not kill active players wink wink wink." Which I guess is fine. That's perfectly fine and cool if you believe that he would do that every single game he ever plays. And that he wouldn't.....change....his MO....to cover his ass in meta.... if he ever took heat....
You can ignore calls to meta if you want. But I like using them because past experience says they can (in certain circumstances) be trusted.

JJJ was killed on night one. NIGHT ONE. There was no ass-covering going on there, Jack had no suspicion on him. Whoever controlled that kill decided to take down one of the bigger voices in the thread. Jack isn't the type to do that. Is he the type to let everyone else control the nightkill? I could see Luna or Marmot taking JJJ down.
What about bussing? Jack was one of the main drivers of the Marmot lynch.
When you say "he doesn't do that" is what you mean "He hasn't done that yet"?
Do you look at people you know and think, "Well they haven't murdered anyone yet. But every one of them is totally capable."

Totally outlandish comparison, yes. But if JackofHearts doesn't just spam-kill high posters in games with lurkers and no-shows, it's not because of a manufactured meta that he uses to win games. The reason to leave people like JJJ and Macdougall alive is because it's a better game with them than with a single-post Soneji and an absent DF.
I daresay it's an ethical conviction, to care about the quality of a game as much as the win. Ethics are not so easily changed, and if they WERE changed in order to ass-cover, it wouldn't be on nights one and two, when there was no suspicion to cover from.
OK but how alibis work is you set them up before you need them.

And also, Not entirely out of the question that he didn't pick or execute the kills himself? IDK man, thats a lot of trust to put into meta. Trust that a smart player would exploit at some point.

Awwwww. You think I’m smart.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:09 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am Like schrodingers goon. Both goon and not goon til we lynch you.
"WHY WONT YOU ADDRESS MY POINTS DH! VERY SUSPICIOUS HUH GUYS?! LETS LYNCH HIM FOR NOT ADDRESSING MEEEEEEEEEEEE"

"Hey uh Jack, here's me addressing you fam"

"LOL FART NOISE"

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am Jack could you please remind me why you've cleared KNess?

Cleared would be putting it strongly.

I don’t think Kness is buddies with DH or LC (but now I think LC is town) and prooooobanly not with Speed. I tend to think he isn’t a goon with inactives because of the nightkills but I could maybe see him shooting Quin and Sprityo (and not LC) if he’s alone (at the time of those kills anyway).

The biggest Kness suspicion is leveled at a team of Kness/Jack, which I know isn’t true. I haven’t heard any other lines of inquiry that strike me as worth pursuing. Like his treatment of me is a bit waffley. I’d kinda expect him to townread me by now.

Also, if we lynch Kness, I don’t have anywhere to go regardless of his flip. I’d clear possibly DH if Kness is bad. I’d have nothing new at all if he flips good.

Like schrodingers goon. Both goon and not goon til we lynch you.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:57 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:56 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:47 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:10 pm Also note "I don't see the light of a townie in you at all" = Very direct, no room for wiggles.

"I *CAN EASILY* see the darkness of a *POTENTIAL* goon" = "Please don't be mad at me and my mafia teammate Knees if we lynch DH and he flips civ lololol we didn't mean it"
TFW nobody wants to talk about the most damning piece of evidence against Jack that proves he's hedging for when I flip civ :/
Addressed this at least 3 times.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

See, this doesn’t actually address what I said which is a lot of the reason you’re in the situation you’re in.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:47 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:10 pm Also note "I don't see the light of a townie in you at all" = Very direct, no room for wiggles.

"I *CAN EASILY* see the darkness of a *POTENTIAL* goon" = "Please don't be mad at me and my mafia teammate Knees if we lynch DH and he flips civ lololol we didn't mean it"
TFW nobody wants to talk about the most damning piece of evidence against Jack that proves he's hedging for when I flip civ :/

Addressed this at least 3 times.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:42 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team

OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
No, I'm voting for you because Jack is.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:36 am That's a pretty funny linki.

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:49 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:19 pm Long Con's posts strike me weird. He apparently didn't read the rules or his role pm, and instead askes all game-mechanic questions in thread. Concerning the mafia recruitment aspect, he asks: It's still up for grabs?
Then posts a bunch of questions on how to approach this game: What are we dealing with here? How do we even mafia in this game?
Then asks, "have recruitment decisions been made?"
But then suddenly understands everything well enough to place a vote on speedchuck based on his game mechanic questions.

I don't view Long Con as being an ignorant player, which is why all his questions confuse me. Is he bad and trying to look like an ignorant townie? Or is he really that bad at reading the rules? I would be okay with voting Long Con today.
This post ignores any possible subtlety and other motivations for question-asking, and leaps straight to "false ignorance or genuine ignorance, either way I'll vote for him". The goal is more to create a weird, confusing target than anything else. Not a good look.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:28 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:21 pm Also, lynching speedchuck on day one is just straight up lazy. Come on people, we can do better than that.
I agree that things ought to be shaken up. Let's see where your Long Con thing takes us.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
I thought you promised to vote for me today.
Sloonei/Luna w/w just struck me here. Friendly non-distancing distancing.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:55 pm
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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:30 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:19 pm Long Con's posts strike me weird. He apparently didn't read the rules or his role pm, and instead askes all game-mechanic questions in thread. Concerning the mafia recruitment aspect, he asks: It's still up for grabs?
Then posts a bunch of questions on how to approach this game: What are we dealing with here? How do we even mafia in this game?
Then asks, "have recruitment decisions been made?"
But then suddenly understands everything well enough to place a vote on speedchuck based on his game mechanic questions.

I don't view Long Con as being an ignorant player, which is why all his questions confuse me. Is he bad and trying to look like an ignorant townie? Or is he really that bad at reading the rules? I would be okay with voting Long Con today.
I'm voting for Long Con in hopes that we can generate discussion about this post. This does reflect a pattern in Long Con's posts where he starts off in apparent ignorance of the game mechanics and then works his way up. It's possible he was just getting a feel for things and now he understands what was happening. Or something else. Let's talk about it.

This is sketchy, and a stretch, on the reread. It's a sktretch.

It's more wishy-washy and noncommittal than water. Are you trying to be Switzerland here? Are you trying to catch baddies or be Involved In A Discussion? You cast a vote, which I can only assume is supposed to look like pressure, and then you proceed to post with as little pressure as possible on me.

And, I just have to focus on this sexy piece of blather: "This does reflect a pattern in Long Con's posts where he starts off in apparent ignorance of the game mechanics and then works his way up." Disappointed us when it wasn't a revelation-filled-look-at-past-games kind of pattern, but just you saying you see some pattern in the four posts Luna quoted. I can look at the horse picture behind my monitors and see, in the horse group, black-black-white-black-black-black-white, and yeah that's a possible pattern, and no it doesn't mean anything. PLUS, now it's maybe-suspicious in your world to move from ignorance to understanding as time progresses? Or are you Billy Pilgrim, displaced in time and confused about how I could have understanding at one point in time, and also have ignorance at another? We live in a linear world, buddy. Also, I was never ignorant of the answers to my questions, just to reiterate.
So you claim you were attempting to set scum traps with your questions? Or just get discussion flowing? If the latter, I would rather have discussions about players and their posts and reads, than game mechanics. Discussing mechanics is always a good distraction from the more important discussions at hand.
Shallow inquisition and platitudes, still unimpressed.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:28 pm Eloh thinks i’m good and bad at the same time
Sounds like a very townie mindset. Eloh I mean.
Defending the Civ who is most under fire is a good look... to invent for yourself.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:39 am
Spoiler: show
Let’s just sort some shit.

Bullzeye - Bad vibes but he appears to be trying the correct townie amount to make things happen if that makes sense. I suspect this is a stylistic clash but it’s hard to tell having not played with him before. Slight townlean. Merits ISO.

ColinIsCool - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance killed by the mafia. Suspected Sloonei in a way that gained him some flack so possible vig hit as well. (Dare I consider a sker on the Syndicate?) Slight scumlean but probably consensus town.

DFaraday - Null. Come on, DF.

Dom - Null. Come on, Dom.

DrWilgy - Null. Come on, Doc.

Infected_alien8_ - Bad vibes. Kinda ignored them cause he’s new to me. Scumlean. Merits ISO.

JaggedJimmyJay - Destroyed Night 1. 50% chance of being the mafia hit. Acting different from normal so there’s a chance he was a vig hit. Few players flat out said Jay was bad, though. Townread.

K-Ness - Need more. Slight townlean.

Kylemii - Null. Come on, Kyle.

Long Con - Feels right. I sense town effort, not scum agenda. Townread.

Lunalee - Her willingness to defend her hubby who is statistically unlikely to be her scum partner feels town motivated but I still need more from her. Townlean.

MacDougall - Initially felt very town for mindmeld and aggression but I’m wavering a bit. Townlean.

Marmot - Null. Come on, Marmot.

novaselinenever - Townlean. Votes poured in on him too quickly and his reaction seemed genuine.

nutella - Townlean. Very loose. A bit swingy but that’s Nutella sometimes.

Quin - Townread. It’s a secret why.

Simon - Null. Come on, Simon. Likely not w/w with Sloonei.

Sloonei - I’ve gone back and forth. Overall, there’s not much in the way of red flags but I consider myself pretty bad at reading Sloonei. I think I may have identified a scumSloonei tendency but I’m keeping it in my back pocket. Slight townlean.

speedchuck - Null. Hasn’t really said much besides naysaying some shit. Come on, Speed.

Soneji - Null. Come on, Soneji.

sprityo - Townlean. It’s a secret from everyone.

Turnip Head - Scumlean. I don’t see the town/neutral TH I’m used to seeing. For someone so excited about this game, he hasn’t been very present.

White - Null. Has this slot posted?

So I’d probably shoot an inactive if it were up to me.

Nice analysis Jack. I would bet there's at least one mafia among the low/lazy-posters. We should look into DFaraday, Dom, Dr. Wilgy, Alien, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Simon, Speedchuck, Soneji, and sprityo.

(ignoring White for now. they aren't even playing)

That is sort of a long list, but I think it's a good place to start. I'll add my own analyses later.
Low Player Salad, not the worst case of Salad I have seen, but excessive. Speedchuck was low/lazy?

... Luna's last analysis post is good follow-up at least. Some suspicion, I'll follow that vote. [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

LC is the second player to vote for and the first person to case Luna. Very good look. I’ll probably assume LC is not mafia based on this for awhile.

And the part where Speed agreed with my points about how I wouldn’t killed silenced players...but then moved to Kness tells me it’s probably DH. But I had a reason to think he wasn’t teamed with DH. I’ll have to go find it and see if it holds up.

The fact the Speed is waffling so much and putting in so much work to not come to a conclusion tells me that if Speed is bad, DH or Kness is bad with him. If there were 3 townies, ScumSpeed would just jump on the most easily justifiable wagon.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:25 am Conclusion: All three of the current wagons are compatible with scum to some degree.

Jack's interactions with Marmot, if they are a 'throw under the bus' kind of thing, have him going at Marmot surprisingly hard. Marmot strikes back too. Probably the hardest interactions to reconcile with a scum Jack.

Luna interacts with alien, trying to facilitate some reads from him, then does what could be distancing later.

K-ness is one of those asking 'why' Luna is suspected. She responds to downplay it.

I didn't check DH's interactions with Marmot. I'm pretty sure those interactions are seared into everyone's head by now.

Where’s the part where I’m compatible with scum? Is it the part you say is hard to reconcile with me being scum?

Wafflewaffle.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:03 am Yeah, but you're not robots. You don't have to do the same thing every time.

This idea of "who would kill the active players?" has certainly been a subtheme. I'm not entirely sure who has pushed this angle the most, but I tried searching the thread for "active", and "talkative", and "killing" to find the genesis of the idea, and the earliest mentions of the idea are these:

I don't know how deeply I want to fall into the DH-brewed Kness-Jack team, I'm just saying that the "I wouldn't do that" argument is not convincing to me.

Then what are we even doing, LC?

I’m mister hates silencers. I’m mister kills silent players as mafia. I’m mister lost several recent games as town due to inactive players. I’m certainly not mister bus my teammates.

You’re standing there calling your own case pretty weak and disagreeing with DH, the other active player pushing for my lynch.

What are you doing? And what are you going to do instead?

And yeah, I’m classifying Nova as an inactive atm. He might come out of that category if he keeps it up and then I’ll sort him.

I think it’s funny that every game with multiple unreplaced inactives has speculation why so and so was replaced but not this other person....and then we forget to follow up after the game.

Just as well. I don’t want to play against Epi in Epi’s game.

Speed, you wanna give me some potential mafia teams in your opinion?

Call me pocketed but I think Kyle, Dizzy, TH all town and I don’t think Kness can be scum with just inactives due to where the kills are falling. I also doubt Kness is scum with DH or LC. Maybe with Speed.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:15 pm Can you build me some mafia teams, Jack?

DH/LC/Inactive

DH/Inactive/Inactive

Speed/Inactive/Inactive

LC/Inactive/Inactive

Wilgy counts as inactive.

I think I had reason to think Speed and DH were unaligned. I know the mafia isn’t Speed and LC and DH cause they don’t all stick their necks out in one way or another to save Marmot. In fact, I don’t think Speed and LH both do it if they’re aligned.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:43 pm For 3 way tie

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:06 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:41 pm IDK Maybe I'm not getting it fam but it sounds like Nova is just parroting stuff other people have said about me and using that to vote for me
I mean, we are at least four (maybe five or six, depending on how LC feels now, and Speed) who's been concerned with many of the same things regarding you. We for sure aren't all scum.

Anyway, this is all rather interesting. I'm intrigued.
I don't think you or LC are bad at this point.

Lol with me and Kness and Nova?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:59 pm LC/DH/Wilgy could be a team but I don't see them all voting early for jack

A speedchuck team prolly either has jack on it or a couple inactives

Honestly, I have no read on Wilgy. He was inactive and then deathtunneled another townie in SF without ever saying why and he’s doing the same here.

He could just be bad but I can and have seen him do what he’s doing here as town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:05 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:20 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:50 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:38 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:16 am [VOTE: Dharmahelper] aubergine
Why?
I don't like his reaction to suspicions and his attitude. A lot of deflection and brushing off hidden behind cheeky comments and one liners. Not really giving me the same Town DH vibes in the firefly game. Feels like he's trying to replicate that "cool" attitude but he's coming off forced, and aggressive in a bad kind of way.
Wow for someone who is never here to read the thread or vote you seem to have a p good idea about reasons for voting for me huh thats fucken strange.
No, that not "fucken strange". Ever heard of catching up?
Just seems interesting to me that spend like...4 days not voting and now that I'm on Jack and Knees you're like "Yep all this stuff about DH looks cool I'm gonna vote for DH"

I dunno maybe I'm off base but that has a certain stink to it.

Everyone who votes for you must be bad amiright?

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