The Syndicate

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:15 pm I want to temporarily turn the conversation towards the lowposters, mostly so that we have something to work with later in the game.
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Fingersplints

Behaviorally, I think fingersplints still remains scummy, mostly for her disingenuous vote on Urist on D2

#779 - Gonna place a vote there while I wait for the explanation.
The terminology there reads like setting up some LHF.

[VOTE: URIST] aubergine

I wasn't quite there at the time, but IIRC, votes were almost tied between Urist and srceenplay around the time of her vote. Maybe not exactly tied, but close. Her voting Urist for a stretch-y associative connection, and wanting an explanation, is kinda weird. IDK why you would need to vote someone to clarify something, and big brain associative connections were being thrown around quite often. I could see this as scum!fingersplints feeling a need to vote before EOD, and just OMGUSing and latching onto something easy.

The fact that the Urist and srceenplay wagons were pretty close should have given most people pause when voting, and probably would warrant more thought into your vote, since the vote becomes more than just "I think X is scum" but moreso "I think X is scum over Y".

Her vote comes kinda easy within that context.
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TonyStarkPrime

I really dunno what to say about this person other than "glaringly absent" and "wolfy to the point where I'm starting to think it might be TWTBAW"
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JackofHearts

Gives me a coasting vibe. I can't really find anything decisively town/scum indicative in his ISO.

I think this is the most alignment indicative thing I found that gives me a townie ping, barring that it isn't faked.

#902 - I'm going to bed. I just wanted to see who was dead. Didn't even finish Hawkeye episode 3 and it's really good.

This post just feels like Jack posting stream of conscious random comments, with his stuff about Hawkeye and going to bed. Him saying that he wanted to see who was dead would have to come from town since mafia already know who is NK.

I mean, could be faked. But that's the best I've got so far regarding JOH.

Let's just kinda put fingersplints as an alt, the 4th wolf out of 3.

Remember, when Jack actually thinks he's solved the game with one or no wolf flips, I'm wrong on one player.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:08 pm idk guys, finger / jack / tsp is impossible to sort in

throw darts, hope to get lucky?
Probably better chance to just throw a dart at nut.

Mmmm and this further looks like not Screen/Nutella, reinforcing my apparently amazing solve.

Yes, these are level one antialignments but I like them anyway.

I am so good at mafia, I sometimes shock myself.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:55 pm Dolby hasn't even bothered to post cause he knows he's outed
They do need voted out. It doesn’t necessarily have to be now but I agree that yesterday was a 1v1.

Further evidence Nutella/Dolby/TSP.

Or rather, just not Screen/Dolby, probably.

Fuck. That was supposed to be spoilered, not colored green.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:55 pm Dolby hasn't even bothered to post cause he knows he's outed
eh, do you really believe that?

This is reasonable.

Remember, only townies are reasonable.

Ps, this is how you handle lowposters.

There's a group of say X lowposters. You misyeet Y of them, then yeet outside that group and the rest of the players in that group are wolves and you lose.

tfw you're reading a post from CCE about potential Nanook partners to see if that shit looks dishonest and who they could potentially be shading and then you remember CCE is dead and this is a waste of time.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:17 pm I do not care, just remember to kill him tomorrow

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:12 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm Soul reading Nanook town cause his anger/demotivation look like a townie to me.
Look at this fucking genius. I dare ya'll to call this tmi. I double dare you.
TMI
You're a wolf for saying that. Gottem.
Didn’t even need you this game. Everyone been lynching town without you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:01 pm Boring and weak

Nutella's response to Nanook's push on Dolby for pure meta reasons.

Nutella/Dolby/TSP.

Spoiler: show

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:06 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:48 pm I literally don't know what's going on and I don't think I ever will.
Star and urist have a long history of reading each other correctly. To the point that one scumreading the other makes it exceedingly likely that one of them is mafia.

Dolby replaced star, so we're gonna kill him

Nutella/Dolby/TSP.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm Soul reading Nanook town cause his anger/demotivation look like a townie to me.
Look at this fucking genius. I dare ya'll to call this tmi. I double dare you.
TMI

You're a wolf for saying that. Gottem.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:07 pm Also, I'm town so that's like a freebie.
Are you really?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:06 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:33 am Like I've stated my scumread on JackofHearts for his posting, like his first initial posts were him doing nothing but reacting to older posts which none of them were "gamestate moving" type of stuff.
He's posted in his spurts but I haven't seen anything that convincing that he's town.
Who else?
Hell if I know.

Literally my only read at this point is Ted is town...that is it.
Well, you're my top townread so figure it out.
Finger/TSP/Srceenplay is the team.

I mean probably hee ho.

Also filing that wolfteam opinion away ftm.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:36 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:28 pm @nutella @DrWigly or anyone else

If NANOOK is scum, who could be his scum buddies?

I agree that NANOOK feels scummy, but I mean, so did Urist so I guess I’m more cautious with the train of thought of “acts scummy —> is scum”

I’ve been looking at pairings, and it feels like the options are kinda limited if he’s wolf.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:50 pm If Nook is red,
CCE
Gavi
Urist
Screenplay
LC
NAA
JoH
Ted
TSP
Fingersplints
Nutella
Can you explain the limitations?

Nutella seems likely candidate for a 2nd, TSP or JoH is valid as a third.

Hell even NAA/Dolb as a 3rd as an option makes sense as Nook's last post of 'this is fine get dolby' feels like a be all end all distance to me. Nothing in Nook's ISO is inspiring that they actually believe what they say about NAA.

Nutella's vote now is meh.

Kinda feeling between this and Nutella's last post that I'm not gonna go back and quote that she's kinda antialigned with both Wilgy and FS. And probably Ted.

Is Nutella/Dolby/TSP a viable wolfteam?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:40 pm Soul reading Nanook town cause his anger/demotivation look like a townie to me.

Look at this fucking genius. I dare ya'll to call this tmi. I double dare you.

Also, I'm town so that's like a freebie.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:30 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:28 pm @nutella @DrWigly or anyone else

If NANOOK is scum, who could be his scum buddies?

I agree that NANOOK feels scummy, but I mean, so did Urist so I guess I’m more cautious with the train of thought of “acts scummy —> is scum”

I’ve been looking at pairings, and it feels like the options are kinda limited if he’s wolf.
i think ted can be one

i think jack/fingersplints/tsp are all possible, they've got basically nothing going for them, but could be someone a bit deeper too

If wolf Nutella is a thing, there's one wolf in Jack/FS/TSP because rule of 3 and I am very very smart.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:33 am Like I've stated my scumread on JackofHearts for his posting, like his first initial posts were him doing nothing but reacting to older posts which none of them were "gamestate moving" type of stuff.
He's posted in his spurts but I haven't seen anything that convincing that he's town.
Who else?
Hell if I know.

Literally my only read at this point is Ted is town...that is it.

Well, you're my top townread so figure it out.

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:28 pm @nutella @DrWigly or anyone else

If NANOOK is scum, who could be his scum buddies?

I agree that NANOOK feels scummy, but I mean, so did Urist so I guess I’m more cautious with the train of thought of “acts scummy —> is scum”

I’ve been looking at pairings, and it feels like the options are kinda limited if he’s wolf.

F

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:22 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 am im not thinking nutella is one of the wolves with any amount of confidence that would warrant the vote, right now i'm deciding to just pressure what i feel like could be a wolf slot that's hiding under the cover of the bar being set so low for villageriness. i think she can easily surpass that bar and it would take few posts. the fact that she hasn't done so yet is a concern. again, ik she said she's turning it down a notch, but it feels like her impact on the game is very little and her concern doesn't show.

and a thing that i didn't like is that she said "we may be on the wrong path" and instead of exploring other reads, she's voted nanook who she's already suspected before (for reasons that i can't comprehend still)

hope it makes sense
lol you cant force a push on me and you know that, and you're twisting to defend nanook when i explained i wasn't even necessarily scumreading him d2

when i said that i meant mainly the urist/srceen wagons and a lot of the associative stuff that gav/others were pushing along with them, including nanook's difference check thing with naa. i dont like how he's sleepwalking into it today, we can't just be totally blasé anymore

and no he hasn't really had serious pressure from me or anyone until today, are you sensitive to mentions of your teammate or what

Now that Nanook has flipped town, what do you make of Ted?

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:21 pm I think we need to re-eval, because at this point, I think we’ve had a lot of town wagons, and it doesn’t quite feel right to go down the road of sticking to our D1 reads and continuously just elimming that set of people.

Ideally going forward, I think we should broaden the focus.

With Urist’s flip, I realized that I might not be the best at reading mafia players who behaviorally don’t exactly fall into my stereotype of towniness. screenplay, like Urist, is tonally leaning towards town despite behaviorally pinging my scum radar.

Don’t have a lot of time today but I’ll try to make do with what I have.

I wish I knew what this meant. Imma take it as a townread unless somebody can tell me why that's wrong.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:33 am Like I've stated my scumread on JackofHearts for his posting, like his first initial posts were him doing nothing but reacting to older posts which none of them were "gamestate moving" type of stuff.
He's posted in his spurts but I haven't seen anything that convincing that he's town.

Who else?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:15 am idk im just focusing on what i can do rn, and that is to read the people that i have experience with

i don't have a nutella god read by any means but i think i can read her village if she gives me something to work with.

if you want to think about it like that, i'm voting her more for not being villagery rather than being wolfy, because there's not so much wolfy stuff to gauge out (she barely explains anything)

I don't have a problem with this post in and of itself.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:54 pm New theory, maybe we should play so quietly, no one can hear us.

I tried that yesterday and we still yeeted a townie.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 am im not thinking nutella is one of the wolves with any amount of confidence that would warrant the vote, right now i'm deciding to just pressure what i feel like could be a wolf slot that's hiding under the cover of the bar being set so low for villageriness. i think she can easily surpass that bar and it would take few posts. the fact that she hasn't done so yet is a concern. again, ik she said she's turning it down a notch, but it feels like her impact on the game is very little and her concern doesn't show.

and a thing that i didn't like is that she said "we may be on the wrong path" and instead of exploring other reads, she's voted nanook who she's already suspected before (for reasons that i can't comprehend still)

hope it makes sense

This is like a weird perspective considering I'm in this game and was barely playing and Tony is in this game and is barely playing even more afaik. #weird #scummylanguagefromjack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:37 am I'm going to bed. I just wanted to see who was dead. Didn't even finish Hawkeye episode 3 and it's really good.

When you arbitrarily go back a few pages before EOD and it's start of day.

Nobody else playing atm.

Luckily, I'm an expert at playing with myself.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:41 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:37 am i found an explanation for her vote on falcon

again, it's not a vote for believing she's a wolf, i just wanna see more nutella stuff. i don't actually see anything that pings me she's a wolf, but the absence of usual villagery nutella maybe tips the scales for me somehow to be paranoid.

the one ping-y thing i've had this entire game was with CCE's second post that said smth like "you guys are all awkward" or some other word, it tipped me off to believe a wolf could've used that to insert themselves in the thread and into the "group dynamic", but i haven't pushed it for obvious reasons.
This was the post that made me want to vote Ted

The “not a vote for believing she's a wolf” vote on nutella

Do you think this like a bullshit excuse to vote Nutella because Nutella is town and was gathering heat or tmi on a partner? I can tell you think it's sus, I just can't tell what you're specifically saying.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:40 pmolives goat

Nutella just likes the worst foods ngl

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:39 pm olives bad

Lock town

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:37 pm basically i'm at, i townread fingersplints/drwilgy/limecoke a nonzero amount, and hope the remaining five contains the mafia, we've gotta be able to hit one today

In town Nutella world, does a wolfteam of 3 of Dolby/Screen/Ted/Tony make sense?

Actually, yes. But maybe not after I actually look at those 4 players.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:33 pm Yo FS your Ted vote was Janky as hell last cycle.

Even your self pres Nook then to Nut was janky. Further, why not go Nut when there were other voters there, instead you put a vanity vote on Ted. Wasn't Nook one of your town reads and was up to the chop?

The hell is that?

[VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine
I reconsidered my suspicion on nuts and found her posting to be alright. Yes I thought this was nanook town game but not strongly enough to vote someone who I also thought was sounding town to save him. Why were those two my only options? I didn’t like either vote and so went elsewhere

This is like reasonable and shit. I've been there, forced to place a vote I didn't believe in or go on a vanity wagon because I hated the top two wagons.

I haven't actually read all of this happening but I'm less concerned than I was 4 min ago.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:33 pm Yo FS your Ted vote was Janky as hell last cycle.

Even your self pres Nook then to Nut was janky. Further, why not go Nut when there were other voters there, instead you put a vanity vote on Ted. Wasn't Nook one of your town reads and was up to the chop?

The hell is that?

[VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine

Big if true

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:31 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:27 pm I will take nanook’s thoughts as a proven civ into consideration but I’m not going to just follow it. I know he was wrong about me. This whole “Carrying out Nanook's orders.” is easily for mafia to manipulate if wrong.
yeah but there are limited possible teams left so the likelihood he was right on dolby is fairly high and i have no other strong preference rn

Fucking none? Seriously? You have one read scumread atp?

That's only one more than me and I've barely been itg.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:29 pm What are thoughts on jack?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:27 pm I will take nanook’s thoughts as a proven civ into consideration but I’m not going to just follow it. I know he was wrong about me. This whole “Carrying out Nanook's orders.” is easily for mafia to manipulate if wrong.

Manipulate? Is Lime manipulating? Is Nutella? Someone else? Say what you mean.

Kinda think he isn't cause nobody is throwing his name out while they're throwing out Dolby, Nutella, etc.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:13 pm The only people being nightkilled are the ones giving an effort in attempting to solve the game and case people...what are the odds.

This feels town, too.

Idk if Lime is even like a suspect atm but he's not a suspect for me.

#weird

Weird pop in/out from tony.

imma catch all 4 of the 3 wolves today

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:41 pm I've seen jack do this is this position as scum but I'm not seeing that here tbh

pocket attempt rejected

Matrix 15ers have 3 wolves, right?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:10 pm [VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Carrying out Nanook's orders.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:13 pm ugh fine [VOTE: dolby] aubergine

this game feels like some kind of sick joke

lay zee

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:59 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:57 pm [VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

best I can do to at least let it rand between NANOOK and nutella

:\ don't feel great about this
Where it’s not random if mafia has a double vote.

lol what is this idea even?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:57 pm Please remember to kill Dolby, then turbo fingers and jack

luckily, I'm unyeetable but we may follow the rest of this

Seriously, I'm in charge. Every else had their chance and they've caught probably zero wolves.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:56 pm Amazing that we're not killing Dolby. Smh

why? Will check.

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