The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:37 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm ok sorry for not catching up

what's ur jack read

Town for some early day 2 nonsense

rly? you're townreading Jack for nonsense?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:49 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:44 pm I think Falcon wolf claimed because he knew I caught him with his shit reasoning and doesn’t wanna say anything because he is frozen.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:31 pm If you need me to sum it down to doggy level for you Falcon, here I go!

You.
Vote.
Nanook.
Ok, Cool.

There.
Is.
No.
Other.
Option.
Then.
Sabie.
That.
Is.
Going.
To.
Go.
Through.
Today.

Your.
Vote.
Doesn’t.
Mean.
Shit.

TL,DR

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:04 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:51 pm I think Sabie flip just solves allot tbh.
I kinda already have allot more worlds broken once Sabie flips.

I mean....how. Since you just said I'm scum either way. Who else's alignment depends upon Sabie's?

Lol when did I straight out claim your wolf?
I said you can very well be a wolf but I never said I hard wolf read you.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:07 pm Like that’s like you being on Mars and you telling me that at least you aren’t at another planet like the rest of the explorers when the rest of them are still on earth.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:03 pm Gavial’s God Tier Reads.

Town:
Lime Coke
Dolby
MacDougall
LinearPoint

Mild Town:
Sig
Martin
Marmot

Null:
NotAnAxehole
DrWilgy

Below Null:
Jackofhearts2005
TonyStarkPrime

Mild Wolf:
falcon45ca
Guillotine
(Only 1!)

Wolf:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Redchecked:
Sabie12

(Guillo/Falcon) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(Marmot//Nanook/Lime Coke) Contain at least 1 Wolf
(NAA/Nanook//Sabie probably contain a wolf. (This of course can be Sabie.)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:12 pm So I read a little bit and see Sabie is red checked which should clear me tbh cuz I wanted to kill her ass and do nothing else before the red check was a thing.

Aaaaanyway TSP, NAA and Nanook can just get it.

I also want Gavial, Guillo and Martin to die.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:02 am Yo @Jackofhearts2005
Opinion on Falcon?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:50 pm I also look forward to people thinking I'm teamed with Sabie because Sabie talks about me a lot and because I choose to catchup in a funny way.

You're linked with sabie because you're always mafia and sabie just happens to be mafia.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:16 pm These posts are odd since Jack sheeped onto Sabbie D1, but then D2 to say that Sabie's wagon was bad.
They gave no real reason for their vote on Sabie, then starting D2 they say Sabie is null to Sabie is Town in not really that long of a period of time.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:26 pm [VOTE: Sabbie] aubergine without a particularly good reason to do so besides perfecting that to cws

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:52 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:41 pm I mean legitimately no one town read Dizzy from what I saw.
To be honest I don't really suspect you Jack, more Sig since they seem a bit suspicious and Sabie because that was a very convenient CFD onto a random person I think only really Dolby had been suspecting.

I don’t have a Sabie read. I’ve read like one of her posts.

I don’t think many wolf teams here try to cfd to save Sabie. Maybe they jump on one but I don’t think they start it.

No offense, Sabie.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:30 pm So like meta and wagonomics says Sabie is town before I even look at her iso.

So I looked at her iso.

24 posts. Yet she's a runaway wagon.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:16 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:11 pm Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't like this.
You're last post with Marmot was basically saying you felt the same about the game as they did.

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:25 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:02 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:40 pm @Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?

I keep forgetting I'm in a mafia game and am feeling lazy this game.

That happens to me when I haven't played in awhile. Any thoughts so far?

But now you are using it as a reason to vote them?
It just feels like this is coming from someone looking for an excuse to get on the wagon than a legitimate read.

I find this post more sus than anything Sabie has said up until this point. Like, this attack reads dishonest. Granted, LP walks it back like immediately but it's a bad look. Agreeing with "I sometimes forget I'm in a mafia game" is not like the same thing as a mindmeld. There's not like a contradiction in the things Sabie is saying, here.

The only thing even #weird I could find in Sabie's iso prior to this post is that she mentions me a lot. Idk if other people were talking about me at the time but it's kinda #weird.

I think Gullio is probably correct in saying if Sabie does somehow flip Town, Jack is probably Mafia who knew about it.
I don't really see Mafia Jack acting this way otherwise since there really isn't a good reason to go from bussing to defending an already outed ally like this.
I think though with at least 80% confidence that Jack is probably Town. I don't see this behavior coming from Mafia Jack, I've played 2 games with Mafia Jack and I don't think in either game he tried to save an outed ally quite like this.
Am I wrong? I don't think Mafia Jack sheeps for no reason onto an ally and does this kind of 180.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:33 pm I feel like Sabie wolf spews Marmot town but what do I know?

Well yes their vote on Marmot wasn't great and Marmot got a red check on her.
So I don't think this is ever really Marmot just bussing Sabie.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:51 pm I think Sabie flip just solves allot tbh.
I kinda already have allot more worlds broken once Sabie flips.

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:50 pm Now rather Jack is protecting a scum buddy or TMI’ing Sabie Town is beyond me.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:34 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:13 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:43 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:59 am I, too, have been fooled a few times by mafia jack. I feel like I can never read him. I'm not sure I've ever seen mafia falcon or just don't remember so not sure if there is a difference, but I didn't see anything outright scummy with him so far. Gavial I think is also a bit harder to read. I saw that people kind of jumped on voting him pretty quick into the day.

Pls more prescriptive less descriptive statements

Sure I can elaborate. I don't think we can judge Jack's alignment yet as he hasn't been here even if he has been tricky in the past. I was unsure as to why everyone jumped so quickly on the gav train so early on. I guess that stems from me taking a little longer to process things in the beginning of games before figuring things out. From my experience, I feel like there are sometimes players who often get scumread early on whether they are town or scum. I've seen this happen to sig and to gavial for example and it seems to have happened here.

Why is Jack not judgeable but Marmot is if both player's presence have been lacking in this game?

Another dishonest sounding attack on Sabie.

"Why is it that you differentiate your ability to read players who have posted from players that haven't posted. I mean, both are lacking."

It's not like Guillo is even unaware that I hadn't posted yet when Sabie said that because she literally says I hadn't posted yet when she said that in the post that Guillo quotes, here.

Lol. I’ll tell you this, if Sabie is town you are scum this would look like you knew Sabie’s alignment.
Sabie has acted scummy and has now vanished from the thread to prevent spew, if they somehow flip town, you knew about it here.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:14 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:17 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.

Didn’t everyone assure us that NAA was a wolf that one time? Or was that Dolby meta?

I remember people assuring me in a previous game that a NAA slot was a wolf when I knew it absolutely wasn’t because I was a wolf.

If i was a wolf i would love to keep NAA in the game.

Meaning?

What you mean meaning? If NAA is town i would keep NAA around to do the dirty work for me. Didnt you see what he did yesterday?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:18 pm To be fully transparent, sabie visited Dizzy last night, and I saw no one else there.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:13 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:43 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:59 am I, too, have been fooled a few times by mafia jack. I feel like I can never read him. I'm not sure I've ever seen mafia falcon or just don't remember so not sure if there is a difference, but I didn't see anything outright scummy with him so far. Gavial I think is also a bit harder to read. I saw that people kind of jumped on voting him pretty quick into the day.

Pls more prescriptive less descriptive statements

Sure I can elaborate. I don't think we can judge Jack's alignment yet as he hasn't been here even if he has been tricky in the past. I was unsure as to why everyone jumped so quickly on the gav train so early on. I guess that stems from me taking a little longer to process things in the beginning of games before figuring things out. From my experience, I feel like there are sometimes players who often get scumread early on whether they are town or scum. I've seen this happen to sig and to gavial for example and it seems to have happened here.

Why is Jack not judgeable but Marmot is if both player's presence have been lacking in this game?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:38 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:20 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:18 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:16 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:11 pm Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't like this.
You're last post with Marmot was basically saying you felt the same about the game as they did.

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:25 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:02 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:40 pm @Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?

I keep forgetting I'm in a mafia game and am feeling lazy this game.

That happens to me when I haven't played in awhile. Any thoughts so far?

But now you are using it as a reason to vote them?
It just feels like this is coming from someone looking for an excuse to get on the wagon than a legitimate read.

Well I thought maybe he was going to come in and start participating now that he remembered he was playing. Then he just kinda said he didn't care and didn't provide anything else so I found that odd.

That's fair, any thoughts on Gav so far? I see you posted about Jack, but not Gav, so more just curious if you had more of a reason for Marmot over Gav.

I'm not sure about gav I feel like his theories don't make sense and could be deflection of attention from himself. I feel like he is so all over the place it's hard to pinpoint. I could see him as mafia this game. My initial hesitation was because I thought people jumped on his wagon pretty quick early on in the day. I was hoping maybe a vote on marmot would get him to post more but that maybe that was being too hopeful.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:16 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:11 pm Hmm I guess Marmot's disinterest is odd and could be mafia? If he were then he hasn't provided much interaction with anyone so he wouldn't be worried about giving away teammates if he gets voted off. I can never get a good read on Jack. If Jack is mafia he's better to get out earlier rather than later. Does gavial have a different playstyle when town or mafia? He always seems kinda all over the place.
Throwing a vote on marmot for now. Hoping to be able to come back later before EOD.
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't like this.
You're last post with Marmot was basically saying you felt the same about the game as they did.

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sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:25 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:02 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:40 pm @Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?

I keep forgetting I'm in a mafia game and am feeling lazy this game.

That happens to me when I haven't played in awhile. Any thoughts so far?

But now you are using it as a reason to vote them?
It just feels like this is coming from someone looking for an excuse to get on the wagon than a legitimate read.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:17 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.

Didn’t everyone assure us that NAA was a wolf that one time? Or was that Dolby meta?

I remember people assuring me in a previous game that a NAA slot was a wolf when I knew it absolutely wasn’t because I was a wolf.

If i was a wolf i would love to keep NAA in the game.

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.

Didn’t everyone assure us that NAA was a wolf that one time? Or was that Dolby meta?

I remember people assuring me in a previous game that a NAA slot was a wolf when I knew it absolutely wasn’t because I was a wolf.

what does Dolby meta mean?

I've played with Naa like once

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:41 pm I mean legitimately no one town read Dizzy from what I saw.
To be honest I don't really suspect you Jack, more Sig since they seem a bit suspicious and Sabie because that was a very convenient CFD onto a random person I think only really Dolby had been suspecting.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:37 pm Good luck, town.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:27 pm I honestly feel NAA is not really going to be worth the lynch today because there are others who were acting worse. Quick lynching him I don't think is ever the play TBH.
For once Sig, Jack, and Sabie were being heavily pushed by Dizzy and a lot of people had Dizzy as null to scum yesterday so the Mafia really had no reason to kill Dizzy unless Dizzy was actually accurate with their reads.
Gav Mafia I also don't think would have killed Dizzzy honestly. He'd be too confident he could lynch Dizzy today.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:26 pm [VOTE: Sabbie] aubergine without a particularly good reason to do so besides perfecting that to cws

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.

Guillo/Dizzy/Jack still very likely aligned.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:13 pm Yeah very well Dizzy.
If your wolf I’ll get off your partner and vote Jack who could also be your partner.

Idk man I don’t wanna see Jack win and survive another LYLO as wolf.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:17 pm Boo hiss no wolf flips yet.

Jack, do you want to talk about how I don't believe you thought there had been two wolf flips?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:42 pm I suppose people would like me more if I didn’t talk so much but it’s hard for Gavial to do that you know?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:23 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:16 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm Guillo and Dizzy both flipping Wolf should confirm both me and Sig.

I must have missed a lot lol. Are these preflip associations or did we really catch 2 wolves before I made my first post?

We only caught them if one of them flip Wolf.
They are literally both aligned together.
Either Wolf or Town.

Got it. Are they like acting scummy?

Dizzy is one of my favorite players and I don't want to remove them from the game just cause. Guillo's like...okay I guess.

I love you, Jackofmyheart.

Have you played with Gavial before?