The Syndicate

I don't remember what it actually is but your reads feel like they shift in unnatural directions rather than having a logical throughline.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:03 pm What's a plinko tell

It's when your reads go like

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:30 pm Also I think jack looks bad off of trying to save rondo because as i said like two cycles ago or something Rondo looked incredibly aligned with falcon at the very minimum purely by votes

That's ridiculous.

Like you suspect that I was a wolf who thought Rondo was the 3P wolf so I went hard trying to save him? Just...what?

Rondo felt town. Specifically, he was having a blast while Falcon was all pissy, which is I found to be incredibly indicative of him not being wolf aligned. Additionally, he had no problem removing his vote from Falcon to give me time to read, which felt very townie to me. I was willing to put myself in danger to protect him because I was more confident in my ability to avoid yeet than his and I was so convinced of his townieness that I was willing to take that risk.

The idea that I secretly scumread Rondo super hard and just made all that stuff up is silly.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:19 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:13 am It's not the fact it happened
It's what specifically tilted me
And I think that that might be something you just don't look at
All of your arguments have been completely meta based
Like this one
You don't look at what specifically tilted me or what my reaction was
You instead look at the pure amounts of times you have seen me be tilted

And that is objectively wolfy
All of this (not just this post but the several posts leading up to it) just reads as a wolf trying to convince a townie.

There's no real consideration of Lag. Instead, things get stretched to shade Lag as wolfy but it never looks like Miz believes Lag could be a wolf for a second.
Yeah, but.. she’s pretty open about that?

Why is it not “You’re being a cod. I think you’re probably town. But the way you approach me makes me paranoid and also hope you’re not.”

I’ve been there plenty of times.

Because it doesn't feel like that. It's like....misused plinko tell.

My POE is Mizery, Porsche.

That's my entire POE. I'm ready to lose the game to any wolves outside that.

Mizery vs Porsche is an easy call. Mizery is scummier. Porsche looks town. I just don't have as strong of a reason to townread her as I do DDL, Lag and Dizzy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:52 pm Jack, I’m probably going to vote you today.

No, you won't. Cause I'm town and I'm unyeetable and you're town and you're smart enough not to and I'm cute enough not to be yeeted and it's a silly thing to suggest in the first place.

and I didn't vote Rondo and I did what I could to save Rondo because I'm town and I believe my townreads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:01 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:11 pm I have information that Rondo had tmi on Falcon and is the scum aligned 3p, specifically.
Spicy. I didn’t see this, personally.

I mean....I was right, wasn't I?

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:10 pm Maybe Mizery isn't wolf

What changed?

link: 6 notifications jfc

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:30 am k putting vote on jack for now

Why? What's the scummiest thing I've done? What's the strongest reason to believe I'm aligned with Falcon, have tmi, etc?

Or if there isn't one, what's the strongest reason to put Mizery above me in the POE?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:02 am I can’t be around before later today either. Sleep and work. Honestly not crazy motivated for this game. When I thought about it before going to sleep, I was left with the PoE of Jack and DDL. I will probably explain this, but it’s largely by taking away others + Lag can win if he’s mafia idc

ffs, Dizzy

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:29 pm If I sit here and think about misery I'm torn.
I feel exasperation from their posts but also feel a general distaste for trying. Does a wolf who doesnt want to try this hard get this far? Almost doubtful

I mean, Mizery has floated around the edge of the POE all game and other people got yeeted first and I don't think that magically makes her town.

You can make the same town argument for DDL and me. Unless you plan on voting Lag (which I don't recommend), is there a reason Mizery and only Mizery gets the prize for that?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:32 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:30 am
Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:29 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:57 am I wish mac had elaborated on his last second jack scum read. like it was a no brainer mac was dying last night no matter who wolf is I think, but I wish I saw what mac saw on jack
Maybe someone who wasn't here d1 to try and save Falcon and someone who only starts talking when applied pressure idk
not entirely bad reasons but second reason isn't real strong ; weren't you also busy with the draft game day 1 so you put vote on falcon and then didnt discuss him
seems like you used the first reason as a reason to defend yourself but using it against jack to incriminate him? unless there is a difference there i'm missing

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:24 am You've been waffling on your read on me where it seems to be that you want to town read me when I'm inclined to townread you, and you wolf-read me when I wolf-read you.

It feels like you're trying to assess if I'm pocketable rather than looking to solve.

If you think I'm the wolf, then go ahead and try to bury me.

If you think I'm town, then town-case yourself for me.

But this waffling in between just... no

just....because Mizery is the wolf

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:13 am It's not the fact it happened
It's what specifically tilted me
And I think that that might be something you just don't look at
All of your arguments have been completely meta based
Like this one
You don't look at what specifically tilted me or what my reaction was
You instead look at the pure amounts of times you have seen me be tilted

And that is objectively wolfy

All of this (not just this post but the several posts leading up to it) just reads as a wolf trying to convince a townie.

There's no real consideration of Lag. Instead, things get stretched to shade Lag as wolfy but it never looks like Miz believes Lag could be a wolf for a second.

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:47 pm Lag I'm trying to townread you right now

Why not try and make it easy on me

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:57 pm dragon you just dont understand that truly I am a moron who dropped in last second after not looking at the game for 24 hours and didn't back read and forgot that HK was the 3p so I thought I was hot shit
I don't think it's productive to discuss your intelligence. Heck, I don't think we have to keep calling you dumb or moron. If you are town, you made a mistake, it happens.

But we also don't know what your alignment is, so we have to assume you could be faking all of it.

Same with Mizery.

I'm just questioning now why you get a pass and Mizery doesn't.

Cuter avatar tbh

Question*

That’s like a somewhat serious quest ftr

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:56 pm For lag to think this is the right approach instead of trying to pocket me though, that means they would have to see jack and ddl as both harder to kill I suppose. Which. Have they been? We've almost killed Jack more than once I suppose. I don't think that's unwarranted though, since the only times jack is active is when people started pressuring him

I’m unyeetable. Tell me what that does for your Lag read.

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:02 pm I still think it’s Mizery. If her scum meta is that she lacks a town spark and doesn’t do anything, the last page of her iso has like 2 posts with content if I’m generous.
That's not really a meta nor can I say that that take is true

[BenShapiro]Lets say that your meta is being a wolf. So we should yeet you, right?[/BenShapiro]

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:09 pm I'm hard shielding literally everyone other than Dizzy and Mizery today, idc

If I'm wrong, I'll just blame you all for killing Arcbell post-game anyway

Lol that sounds fair. I’m hard shielding everyone but Mizery and Porsche but I do think Porsche is more likely than not town.

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

I just really think Dizzy is town, here. There’s been a lot of town moments. The kills don’t make sense for w!Dizzy. Dizzy feels like the town Dizzy I’ve seen a bunch before. Like I’m not gonna say that Dizzy struggles as a wolf but he def has an easier time posting as a townie. He’s the top poster by like 50 posts.

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:02 pm I still think it’s Mizery. If her scum meta is that she lacks a town spark and doesn’t do anything, the last page of her iso has like 2 posts with content if I’m generous.
I can definitely see a Mizery wolf here too. She got me off of her on the basis of her not having a bussing meta.

But like, that's probably the single easiest type of meta-tell to break, since you just vote your teammate and call it a day.

Didn’t Mac or somebody say he’d seen her buss before?

I still think it’s Mizery. If her scum meta is that she lacks a town spark and doesn’t do anything, the last page of her iso has like 2 posts with content if I’m generous.

Welp, that flip was super disappointing. I thought when Arc was talking about Falcon pinging him that he was telling the truth.

Great game, ya’ll.

Max mostly goat.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:06 pm Yeap I'm the wolf

I was right wowee

Dizzy literally has zero votes?

Gah I hope this discussion is secretly post game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:04 pm straight up with 60 seconds left to go I became super convinced it was jack so probs kill his ass

Stop helping while you’re ahead damnit.

Regardless of this flip, I get to pretend I was right

Maybe it is valid. I’m like 60 posts behind.

[VOTE: Arc] aubergine

Just to protect DDL, even if that’s not a valid reason.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:38 pm Dizzy jack lag mizery

the wolf is probs in here

Why Dizzy and why not Arc?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:29 pm Maybe you should actually chop me here? I'm dead anyway and it forces the mafia to make a kill you can read into and at least guarantees you don't kill another town? And I already have the coin.

Is that dumb?

Yes. Lol.

Lag wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:20 pm I still say Miz hasn’t done anything townie and Lag says she’s in her wolf meta, which is worse than anything Arc has done.
Miz's point about her anti bus meta was a good one that the only answer I have for it is she's breaking her meta.

Noted. Did Miz really bus Falcon?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:21 pm okay i'ma type this thought process out for my sake

mac is town aligned 3p. doesn't have coin, but got shot. has to out since maf knows he is 3p now regardless. can get shot again tonight to die and not win. doesnt win today without coin, plays to get a town voted off so that he can get mafia out later when mac has coin to get wincon. lies about having coin.
mac is town aligned 3p. does have coin, and got shot. has to out since maf knows he is 3p now regardless. can get shot again tonight to die and not win. wins today with coin, plays to get mafia voted off so that he can wincon.
mac is mafia. lied about getting shot, but didn't shoot the 3p with a vest b/c otherwise they would have claimed they were shot and cc'd mac's claim. is trying to get arcbell off just cuz he's the unlucky townie.

I think third one makes the least amount of sense, arc

Mac outted before being shot

Even if Mac was lying, that wouldn’t make Arc town. Kinda a silly argument to make.

I still say Miz hasn’t done anything townie and Lag says she’s in her wolf meta, which is worse than anything Arc has done.

Townread on Arc kinda faltering :-/

What if Falcon is bad at antispew tbh

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:12 pm I’ll vote Arc to save DDL if it comes down to it but I’ll do it in a really salty way and then be like told ya so tomorrow or laugh at how bad I’ve sucked this game.

Depending on Arc’s alignment, I mean

I’ll vote Arc to save DDL if it comes down to it but I’ll do it in a really salty way and then be like told ya so tomorrow or laugh at how bad I’ve sucked this game.

If we yeet you and the game doesn’t end, stick around @Arcbell . You’ve been fun to play with.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:00 pm I don't strongly think anyone is anything. You're really hard shielding 3 players?
I’m very hard, you know.

Implying a magnifying glass is necessary oof right in the ego

It’s 4/20 let’s yeet the host.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:00 pm I don't strongly think anyone is anything. You're really hard shielding 3 players?

I’m very hard, you know.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:07 pm Re: Mizery shes a blur to me. Can't remember the last townie thing she did. Kinda like Porscha but Porscha grew on me I suppose. The table thing is neat but Ive done similar piles of gargantuan office work as scum.

Would kill.

But Arcbell is the one who is currently weirding me out with all the random priorities.
Could you vote Mizery? Please and thank you.
for someone who has no strong reads this is pretty adamant
No strong WOLF reads. I strongly think that DDL, Dizzy and Arc are town, who were the other players with votes at the time.
Strongly?

I mean….it probably goes Dizzy, DDL
Then Arc, Lag with the order kinda flip flopping.

Admittedly, I don’t know Arc well. Maybe I’m just wrong. But I think he’s town.

I’d bet the game on Dizzy being town. Not quite that confident on DDL but probably shakes out that way in practice.

If it isn’t Miz, the game becomes “I townread everybody” which is peak mafia fwiw.

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