juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:19 am
Jack ISO Continued
Day 7
- Pawn spewed town by Michelle's janiored death
- Says town Mac is easy to find and this is town Mac - Jackofhearts2005
do you still agree? It's less clear now. Like he past two days have been lackluster. I want to believe I had a good read on him early on, especially when now/yesterday is actually high stakes moment for wolves because they're lynchable and maybe only need 1 mislynch to win and now Mac's phoning it in. Vs he was trying really hard in DL 2, when votes didn't really even matter. Still, there is a mechanical POE and Mac is in it.
- Says TLib also town -
towny
- Evidently looks at TL's ISO and backs off his town read somewhat
For the record, I'm back on it after your case on TL being the town vig.
- Town reads Epi -
towny
- Asks if he is the only one still scum reading iaafr -
scummy
- Votes iaafr -
scummy
- Wants to ignore wolves per dream level except for f3 -
slightly scummy, doesn't want to analyze It's not that I don't want to analyze, it's that we don't know if there is a wolves per DL and we don't know how many it is if it exists and we don't know where Drago belonged and if he death changed those numbers. Like I could analyze you and TL if I arbitrarily decided there was a wolf between you but that's stupid because I think you're both town on your own merits. I'm not going to tie myself to a mechanic that is a massive question mark. I'm just going to read all the players like I normally would. It's a scum prerogative to propose or agree with questionable theories and push weaker reads based on those theories. It's town's prerogative to vote your scumreads.
- Says he has a problem squaring the "no agenda" look of iaafr with his mutual pact with Eva
- Says "roll tide" -
TOWNY (j/k)
lol
- Radishes isn't mafia or sprityo would have been lynched in F3 -
seems true, towny
- Disagrees with me that Radishes is unfriendly 3P just because Eva said so
- Thinks 3P killed Eva and nutella but Radishes is at the bottom of the list Jackofhearts2005
if the poison only lasts a day how could this be true? I don't think the 3P necessarily killed Nutella any more. We've had 2 poisons and only 1 extra kill. It's weird for 3P to have both since it's basically duplicate abilities. Possibly a missing role, a last (poor) vig shot or a scum reward for incepting dickbutt since Eva survived Limbo 3. The poison could be a day action? Or it could just be Radish with a parting shot on Eva that backfired, even though there are lots of other reasons to think that's not the case. 
Day 8
- Says iaafrs late day vote for a townie after peacing out for the phase is suspect -
scummy
- thinks I'm suspect for suspecting Mac after I town read him before -
slightly scummy
- Says Mac is easy to read and my flip on him is to try and convince players who don't know his style
scummy Yeah, I was wrong on you. Sorry. Should have stuck with the power ranger read but it was mostly on Nutella's say so to begin with.
- Last time he played with wolf Mac he caught him right away.
- Colin made a vote that was sub-optimal for a wolf, goes through the rest of the votes and concludes iaafr's vote for Epi was the only bad one (there were 5 other votes on Epi)
- Colin looks better if iaafr is scum Jackofhearts2005
do you still stand by this, i.e. Colin looks wolf because iaafr was town? The absence of a positive isn't exactly a negative. Colin is in the POE. Gth, I'm not voting him but I need to do that reeval Iaafr suggested, which includes rereading Colin.
- Says for the 3rd time he's unlynchable
True story.
- Mac says Jack only one left on 112 wagon and needs to be resolved, jack says he couldn't do it if both he and iaafr were double voters.
Also true. 
- Doesn't understand iaafr's posting, switching reads around, never quoting anyone
- Says iaafr is fence sitting when iaafr says LC's ISO looks better than Quins but in a scummy way -
scummy
- Explains why Quin and Pawn town, because Michelle read them town and wolves janitored her even if she wasn't the cop scum knew she was right about Quin and Pawn
- Says iaafr has been in anti-spew for 3 days -
scummy
- Says Radish is the last 3P candidate after him (Jack) because 3P Radish would be happy to impotently push Eva all day - if he kills her and she's town he's more likely to get lynched and if she's scum he's more likely to be night killed.
Question everyone: If Radish is 3P why hasn't he been night killed? -
Towny I think That is a fair question. Maybe scum thinks he's 3P and hopes he'll be lynched. If he's scum, he's been a mean busser.
- Speculates that 3P is Tatia (from the movie) -
Is he the 3P? Talks about 3P a lot. Lol
- Says Colin is not wolf because his vote behavior would be to risky for a wolf
- Says one reason he keeps voting iaafr is because he talked him out of voting for Eva day 2 and day 5.
- Asks for thoughts on a juliets/iaafr scum team -
scummy As much as I was totally wrong, I'm annoyed nobody but Iaafr would talk to me about it, even to tell me that I was totally wrong. That was part of the point of the whole 3 suspects and 3 vetos exercise because I was a bit worried that the reason I couldn't lynch Iaafr was that I was facing the wrong direction. Idk if LC would have been the lynch without it. That moved us from roughly a 6 way 1 vote tie to a tie between LC and LLD, who were the top suspects according to the graph. I can't take credit for the LC lynch. I didn't push it. I didn't strongly suspect him. I hope people can see that my actions were town motivated and had a good outcome.
- Votes iaafr
- Tries to get people to consolidate from the spread out votes by vetoing one person and then tries by trying to get others to name 3 people scum, 3 people they wouldn't vote. Turns all this into a chart.
Towny
- Reminds us that nutella's reads on him are garbo
- Votes LLD
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Well, Imo if Jack is bad he's playing a great game. The scummiest things in his ISO really surround iaafr. I still don't like that he held onto iaafr being bad for so long and the fact that iaafr was killed by the poisoner and Jack talks a lot about the 3P in the ISO's I've done makes me suspect he's 3P. If he is, I can understand the iaafr kill because he was sure he was bad, and I understand the Eva kill, but not the nutella kill. If he's not 3P I think he's just town. I feel like I did a lot of work for nothing but thats the way mafia is I guess. I hope someone else is doing Mac.
