The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:57 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:51 am As I've probably mentioned before, the mafia will probably want to keep discussion on Scraggy as much as possible. Providing it isn't one of their own behind the account.
I'm getting tired. Sleep time beckons.

Repeating the same points over, while still discussing Scraps...OK.





[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Semivalid. Probably comes from town Falcon but I’ve lately managed to be shit at reading Falcon. Of course, I blame Falcon for this.

yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:50 pm So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:44 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:01 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:59 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:24 am neon scummy for policy voting even though idc about whether scrappy dies

I literally policy as town *sigh*

literally a bad habit and scummy usually, alison policies r disagreeable too

I can not possibly express how much I disagree with this take. Policies win games.

Policies aren’t even intended to win games. They’re intended to enforce good play. IE yeet claimed neutrals until players learn to stop claiming neutral. Yeet toxic players until they learn to stop being toxic.

It can’t be a GOOD strategy for finding and yeeting wolves when it isn’t a strategy for finding and yeeting wolves to begin with.

If you’re town, this shit will get you miselimed, probably after you get a townie or two miselimed in front of you. Just ask Alison.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:17 pm I just did a quick ISO skim of Sean and I’m much more committed to my vote now.

He has fluff, some light posts about scrappy but nothing else, and the “slip” which he’s decided to tunnel. Imo this is classic mafia behavior you find one thing to grab onto and just tunnel to avoid attention.


That paired with his lack of hunting and general posts all point to him being mafia and out of all the wagons that’s the one I prefer.

Kinda this tbh. Granted, I had no posts at all but I haven’t read any Seanzie posts with content. Btw, P5 is Page 5.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:18 pm also @Jackofhearts2005 im very unhappy you didn’t say hello to me

Also also I’m pretty sure you lead a misvote on me last game or vigged me so like IOU one death

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:27 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm If we let a wagon stagnate, espically one that isn't going to flip mafia essentially we let mafia just slide by for the day. So pressure should be applied to others during the day.

This is repeating N argument that others have said before them. This to me is mafia’s way of trying to seem town but actually adding very little to the conversation.

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 thoughts on this logic and thoughts on chihiro and/or pyxxy as potential mafia?

I don't think Pyxxy is mafia. I'll get back to you on Chihiro.

Also....why are you pinging me specifically for this? We haven't played together before, have we?

We have not played together before, no. I just liked your take about pyxxy not realizing that the locations and our roles align. You called pyxxy weird, and I wanted to know how far your thoughts on him went. This is doubting my town read on you if i'm being perfectly honest. I agree with whoever mentioned that role PMs and win cons and things are a terrible kinda scummy way to play, but in this case it works and if they really didn't know that it seems pretty plausible that he is mafia. Now may I please ask you to explain why you don't think pyxxy is mafia?

Because I don't think a wolf comes in with like...a wrong take and then wants to start a fight about it. Everything about Pxxy's tone and mindset indicate a townie who thinks he's onto something.

Anyway, vote: Neon. I townread the two players voting there, Neon is voting Scrappy and Neon is the most sus player as of P5. Might change this later but this is a good vote for now.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:23 amcreature town

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:23 ampyxxy town

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:24 am neon scummy for policy voting even though idc about whether scrappy dies

Correct takes are >rand town, right? Lucy can be town.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:30 pm I think 3p claims usually should just be policy lynched but meh I have other players to sort aorn.

In fairness, the main account didn't claim 3P. The sockpuppet did. So this is actually the most protown 3P claim in history.

Neon's agreement with this idea is bad.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:34 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:32 pm Seriously, think about it. Killing me goes against the town win condition. I'm on the town's side and I have two votes to help them. What's the point of killing me when you're not even targeting mafia and only helping them reach parity? It doesn't make any sense!

You aren't on towns side. You are on your side. You are a threat to town.

It is never against my win con to remove a threat to town.

Feels like additional treading water and fake bravado. It's a sock puppet. Who cares?

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:05 am I don't think talking is gonna cut it, folks. Here's the deal: I can either go all wolf and flip this game on its head, or I can help town and make things a lot easier for us. It all depends on how many votes are on me day 1. I've got two accounts and a bunch of abilities, so trust me when I say you don't wanna mess with me. Keep me alive and I'll be your best ally. But if you vote me out, I'll make sure to waste town's time and resources. You don't wanna take that risk, do you? So let's work together and make this a pro-town win. Got it, gang?

This is bordering on jester level of self destruction to the point where I wanna yeet people for wanting to yeet this slot.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:29 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:53 pm Thank you for gifting me the ability to blind vote you D1 and never reanalyze lol

Do you really want me to wol fside and work against our town's win condition? Because that's where you're pushing me if you decide to lynch me on day one. I don't understand why you're forcing me into this position.

You act as though you will be alive long enough to wolf side lol.

Your naked now. Your goals are plain as day. You are the easiest kill in mafia history you should be removed post haste. 3Ps are never beneficial to town.

This pings me a bit.

I'm mostly saying this for credit if Neon turns out to be a wolf.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:25 pm It's so unfair! Why can't they see that I want to help town? I have two votes and I can use them for town's benefit. If they keep pushing to kill me, I'll have no choice but to side with the mafia. It's not what I want, but they're not giving me any other option.

Threatens to wolfside.

Is indignant players what to yeet it.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:41 pm What an interesting gimmick to begin the game with. Are we actually gonna vote on a location or just yolo it like disjointed towns people?

This is the only thing that really pings me P1. Could be one of those "I am a wolf so I need to say that I am town" tendencies. Very minor but worth noting.

Kate seems pretty townie on P1. Like friendly. Idk Kate super well. Could be fakable but again, worth noting.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:45 pm*snip*
Not sure how I feel about someone talking about third party at the start of the game, no mafia aligned player would risk doing that this early right?

This feels self conscious. Could be wolf indicative. Could just be how Chihiro is.

By halfway down P2, Creature feels like town Creature, multiposting and complainy. I know this should be easy to fake but wolf Creature tends to like not be good at faking this so I'm willing to run with it until Creature proves me wrong.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 pm *snip*

On a serious note, I 100% bet Scrabby is a third party role I’m thinking in like with the character from Rico’s Courage game awhile back. Basically a player posts as both themselves and scrabby.

Or if we wanna include movie verse then scrappy is a mafia member since in the first movie he was the main villain

This is a weird thing for Sig to say. Feels like he's saying he doesn't know that villains are town. Townies and wolves should both know this, implying he's 3P. He also talks about 3P in this very post so it's on the brain. Decent chance that's Sig's alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:36 pmJinkies!

Wolf claim.



Scooby Doo Team Up comics are really good shit. My 8 YO just ate that stuff up and I was entertained.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:21 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:14 pm Wow I can't believe how much time has passed since i watched a Scooby Doo skit. I feel ancient.

Honestly I only played online Scooby Doo games.

Sadly I was born too late to Scooby Doo and today's reboots are shit.

The newest Scooby Doo is just fine. Don't be a stick in the mud. In fact, I'd put it above everything post Scrappy Doo's introduction and the Simple Plan 2002ish cartoon is also solid.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:16 pm On principle I will not be voting for us to visit the Confederate Mansion.

It's too bad that we can't refer to each place by a set of unique initials.

But it's like a good twist that the fortune turns out to be in confederate dollars so it's worthless. That was a Scooby Doo twist, right?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:03 pm Three years, six months and two days. That’s how long Marcie Fleach had spent oscillating between laundry duty, kitchen sanitation and mail sorting under the watchful eye of the prison guards. They rejected her request for the kitchen apprenticeship due to the large assortment of metal silverware.

Which- let’s be honest- was a far cry from the rollercoaster steel she had stolen to land her here in the joint. After all, she wasn’t Magneto. Where did they think she would go if she made a grand theft of oxidized dinner spoons?

If there was one person that sympathized with the banality and drudgery of the inmate experience, it was Marcie; or “The Manticore”, as her ‘friends’ called her. If she could even call them friends. She didn’t have many friends on the outside.

As the guard gave her her final possessions she had forfeit on her way into the clink, he gave her a once-over.
“You meeting anyone out there…Hot Dog Water?” The guard gave a smug smile. Marcie grimaced st the guard, and as a pointed answer, snatched her belongings and headed for the exit.

‘That was about right,’ she thought to herself. Somehow the guards found out her old nickname the losers at her old high school used to call her. It wasn’t even accurate- her mom told her she smelled like old roses, which isn’t a vast improvement over hot dog water, but it at least sounded sweeter.

The sun was shining brilliantly in the parking lot. She squinted to adjust to the light. Passing by a few visitors on a smoke break, she bummed a cigarette and enjoyed her first free cigarette in 3 years, 6 months and 2 days.

She was enjoying the feeling so much she didn’t notice the flower-pocked van easing up alongside on the curb. The window rolled down and a masculine voice called out, “Hey! You Marcie?”

She squinted again but couldn’t make out the speaker but as her eyes focused, she did a double take and jumped back in surprise. The occupant in the passenger seat was large and in shadow, but it definitely looked like…

“Earth to Marcie! You’re Marcie Fleach right?”

Yep, it sure seemed like that large dog was talking to her. Yep, she was definitely losing it. If she was losing her mind, she might as well run with it. What was there to lose anyway?

“Yeah, that’s me,” she shrugged to the large dog in the passenger seat. The dog didn’t seem like it was actually involved in this conversation. Maybe that was the driver talking- not the dog.

The side sliding door opened with a creak, forcing a cloud of what looked like smoke out of the van, and a younger woman poked her hand out.

“Wanna help us solve a mystery?”

Marcie only briefly hesitated before taking one more drag of her cigarette, flicking it off towards the prison, and climbing in.

It is now Night 0.
Please vote for a location to visit for Day 1. There is NO post limit for this night.

Day 1 will begin at 6pm Eastern on March 6th.

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@Dennis
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@Neon
@pyxxy
@Roxy
@Seanzie
@sig

Mystery Incorporated characters showing up in what I assumed was a Scooby Doo Where Are You timeline game. Probably not super important but could have 3P implications.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:18 pm also @Jackofhearts2005 im very unhappy you didn’t say hello to me

Also also I’m pretty sure you lead a misvote on me last game or vigged me so like IOU one death

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:27 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm If we let a wagon stagnate, espically one that isn't going to flip mafia essentially we let mafia just slide by for the day. So pressure should be applied to others during the day.

This is repeating N argument that others have said before them. This to me is mafia’s way of trying to seem town but actually adding very little to the conversation.

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 thoughts on this logic and thoughts on chihiro and/or pyxxy as potential mafia?

I don't think Pyxxy is mafia. I'll get back to you on Chihiro.

Also....why are you pinging me specifically for this? We haven't played together before, have we?

Alright. Time to get this party started.

I drop things all the damn time. Mostly, shitty video games.

Not sure what to do with Pxy claiming unrelated hideout when Chihiro and myself are claiming related hideout. Seems too stupid to actually catch scum Pxy this way and Pxy isn't acting scummy about it.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:55 pm Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

oh I just realized that I assumed that scum would be the Mystery gang, as in scum are not monsters (although I assume safeclaim means they are given something to claim as part of their scum role to help blend in?)

Ex: Fred, Daphne, Velma, Shaggy would be my expected scum roles

no scooby, and then scrappy makes sense as the 3p

so like.....13 monsters -> 13 monster-benefiting locations?

Yeah, I'm assuming mystery gang is mafia itg.

Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I guess Scrappy could be 3p. I don't particularly care to pressure a sock account.

Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

Though idk what 3P role you'd even have in this game except like....Batman or the Harlem Globetrotters.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:43 pm Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

I haven't read the posts in question but it's on brand for Sig in general. I wouldn't take it to be alignment indicative.

I can't help but notice votes are hidden. I went ahead and voted...nothing specifically until I'm sure that's okay.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:31 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:10 pm woof woof

Yeet this

Jack!

yeet me daddy

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:10 pm woof woof

Yeet this