The Syndicate

Imagine if I was in Champs Qualifier 1 and subbed out in a 24 hour mylo. :wowee:

I feel like I’m decent in 1 wolf mylo but tbh, I don’t see it that often.

My town loss record is full of games where I have 1 or 2 wolves, I’m pocketed by 0-2 wolves and there’s 0-2 wolves in slots I haven’t evaluated well due to lack of content/bad misyeets.

I hope I get nked but I know I’m not gonna be. Game is hard.

I mean it was a poll ghost.

To be above board, I hammered sleep, changed by vote, realized I had hammered and changed it back since you can’t unhammer.

That was semi unintentional in that I didn’t realize there were two votes but whatever too late now

Sorry, Mizery.

I agree. Take this to final 3 instead of final 4.

If day was 5 min longer, I might be for sleeping tbh.

this better be a hit

EOD avatar change pretty great tbh

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:55 pm I'm worried miz is actually town here and that I'm being deceived by a superior player

If Miz is town, something much funnier and sadder is going on than that.

There's a mechanical argument to be made for sleeping but in practice, I've never seen sleeping result in a win that wasn't happening anyway. (And though it isn't relevant here because setup is open, I've seen games that should have been lost won by sleeping on what turned out to be lylo.)

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:53 pm Jack claims to be solving but legit every time he's in thread he's pushing a specific person and shielding a specific person

today it's me/lag
before it was whoever he was pushing/defending rondo

Jack what's your plan for tomorrow

Hopefully, there's no tomorrow.

If there is a tomorrow, I plan to cry a lot.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:50 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:49 pm Jack probably got me and I’m voting miz probs
I'll be super happy with you if you do.
Well yeah….

Even if Miz is town?

If Miz is town, I'll probably be too busy being mad at myself but yeah, I'd still appreciate not getting misyeeted.

Everyone else is playing a game where they try to win and I play a game where I try to win AND not get yeeted and tbh, it's not really fair but it's also my own fault.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:49 pm Jack probably got me and I’m voting miz probs

I'll be super happy with you if you do.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:43 pm Wdym wolves break the tie

If there’s a tie between wolf and town wagons, the townie gets yeeted. Not a coin toss.

Ergo tied wagons ALWAYS yeet a townie.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:42 pm You know, Mizery wasn’t really my target audience in my last several posts. :cheeky:
donno why you think it wasn't blatant that arguing that i was a wolf wasn't meant for me.....

The joke is that you were the only person to switch off me or onto you.

I just subconsciously love 3P roles ofc

You know, Mizery wasn’t really my target audience in my last several posts. :cheeky:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:32 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:10 pm I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc
yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said
Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

Yep. I said I always kill Mac over NAA or LC and Mizery shot back that she doesn’t care about arguments of that type.

Now she does.

Not because that’s a logical townie way to determine alignment but because dismissing that type of argument makes it easier to scumread Jack and using it now makes it easier to argue that she’s town. It’s purely opportunistic.

Ffs @Dyslexicon @Lag @Porscha

Look at my posts. Look at Mizery’s posts.

Who is pursuing their actual scumreads for actual reasons? Me.

Who is shifting their reads based on gamestate instead of scum hunting? Miz.

Who is defending his townreads with the fire of a town player who wants to win? Me.

Whose townreads evaporate into thin air as soon as the suspect her? Mizery’s.

It’s that simple. I refuse to be misyeeted when I’m obviously the townie here.

Fwiw, LC did townread Mizery upon his death. I have no idea what kind of nightkill Mizery makes in that situation.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:15 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:10 pm I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc
yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said
Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.
I can link 4 games right away where LC hard townreads me and tries to prevent me from dying
can you do the same?

When you were a wolf?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:13 pm You really dont *know* if those people are all town. You're just putting yourself and lag in confirmed TR

I guess I missed Lag but yes, I do know my own alignment. Ended up not really mattering cause I never found you like making bad pushes on the townies in question in later posts, which was my concern.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:44 pm
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Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie
Why me?
I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine
If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.
While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught
You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?
along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.
Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.
Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.
I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.
I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now
Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.
I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:00 am *waits for Lag to show up*

*Lag doesn't immediately show up*

*Starts writing a note to self to remind me to hound Lag as to why he is a top-tier player but his ISO is devoid of and and all content with 3/4 of the day over*

*Gets distracted by a shiny coin, stop writing*

What was I just doing?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:02 am

Would be funny but it’s not the kind of player I am.
Really? I thought you were pretty keen on bussing.
Oh, I am. So like from the perspective that Falcon and I are wolves, that can be expected.
Ooorrr... you could be quack-master-jacky-jack and if you bus, the mafia team might not realize you're quack-master-jacky-jack and they'd shoot you wasting a NK.

One of the two.
went thru seanzie's ISO and these are what I thought would potentially lead to why seanzie was killed first (disregarding his strong maf!falcon read)

are any of these potential reasons wolves might want him gone
Save this for later. I now know that everyone Porscha is talking about here is not a wolf.

That doesn't make Porscha a wolf. But it does mean that regardless of her alignment, Porscha is set up to push townies and I wanna see where this thought process goes.
I quoted the posts from seanzie that seemed like he was sussing another player as to point at who maybe killed him. HK and seanzie post is very revealing in retrospect. Lag and jack are still here... with 1 wolf left.... I'm less sus of lag

That’s fine. I don’t suspect Lag.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:10 pm I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc
yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:10 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:32 pm Good talk.
Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

Get an easier job tbh.

And put Mizery out of herself.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:02 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:24 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:15 pm how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine
[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

Just like that
see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf
Wat

That looks like it could easily be no stakes distacing from falcon and you wouldn’t know hks role

Right? Come on and make the right call, here. Game ain’t that hard.

Good talk.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:51 pm So far, there's nothing in Porscha's iso that kicks me off of my "This is probably town but it isn't impossible for this to be mafia" read.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:54 pm You know Jack you're right I should ISO you I'll get in my comp
Did you ever do this btw?
I think I started to and gave up cuz I wasnt finding anything that stuck out to me

Probably cause I'm super townie, right?

seriously someone come play with me or I'll be forced to read all of High Rise Invasion.

So far, there's nothing in Porscha's iso that kicks me off of my "This is probably town but it isn't impossible for this to be mafia" read.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:54 pm You know Jack you're right I should ISO you I'll get in my comp

Did you ever do this btw?

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Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:29 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:14 pm You can tell I revised that post a couple times..
I've done it a few times this game already to make sure what I'm saying makes sense.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:13 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:59 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:51 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:50 pm

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.
Nah he's poking you for your thoughts on the matter
Yeah that did happen, but I don't get what he was going to figure out based on that since it's you scumreading the same guy that I'm scumreading...which is him.
Like I don't understand his philosophy at all here if it comes from a town perspective.
If he's town he's probably noted that you're supporting my push on him pretty hard, and that while he's been indicted as a liar and a trickster pretty hard, there isn't actually much in this argument that makes him maf. Town can easily decide to feign n0 informed or whatnot. So he might be wondering why you haven't noticed that or aren't trying harder to determine his alignment.

But this is all pure speculation because again srceenplay's entire thing this game is saying he's giving information while actually giving no information or feedback lol
That's the thing, there's no PRs in this setup so even trying a gambit saying "I'll save info for later" doesn't make any sense here.

What's getting to me is that he's refusing to out any information in a game with 0 PRs. Then when I'm confronting him about his read on me or my scumread on him, his response is just making smart remarks or they're conversation twisting to try to confuse people.
They're not showing attempts to evaluate alignments of anyone. It's more just being disruptive.
There are no PR's, there is no gambit. So why out of all the RVS talk was that what got you going? You felt attacked? Hate the play style? Looking for a reason to vote someone? There is information there that can be used to help sort you.
I think it's the first two reasons for you.
Arcbell I see as looking for a reason to vote someone. They give a narrative (doubtful in any world) why I'm scum. They also explain to you why I could be town. They are having conversations without looking for answers and without questioning or doubting their vote.
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Now I will miraculously disappear again.
maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?

Surprising first use of the prior line of reasoning is to townread a townie.

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Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie
Why me?
I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine
If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.
While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught
You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?
along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.
@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.
Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.
Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.
Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.
I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.
I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.
I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying
I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now
Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.
I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:00 am *waits for Lag to show up*

*Lag doesn't immediately show up*

*Starts writing a note to self to remind me to hound Lag as to why he is a top-tier player but his ISO is devoid of and and all content with 3/4 of the day over*

*Gets distracted by a shiny coin, stop writing*

What was I just doing?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:02 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:01 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:00 am I should probably catchup and do stuff before eod huh?
Nah, just put Falcon at E-1 and call it a day.
Would be funny but it’s not the kind of player I am.
Really? I thought you were pretty keen on bussing.
Oh, I am. So like from the perspective that Falcon and I are wolves, that can be expected.
Ooorrr... you could be quack-master-jacky-jack and if you bus, the mafia team might not realize you're quack-master-jacky-jack and they'd shoot you wasting a NK.

One of the two.
went thru seanzie's ISO and these are what I thought would potentially lead to why seanzie was killed first (disregarding his strong maf!falcon read)

are any of these potential reasons wolves might want him gone

Save this for later. I now know that everyone Porscha is talking about here is not a wolf.

That doesn't make Porscha a wolf. But it does mean that regardless of her alignment, Porscha is set up to push townies and I wanna see where this thought process goes.

Porscha has basically no interactions with Falcon all of D1. That's odd. Idk what to do with that. Keep going I suppose.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:58 pm " He will be informed who his partners are, they will not be told who he is"

I cant wait for the wacky pocketing

hey btw brad can I pocket you

Okay so....Porscha knew there was a wolf aligned 3P who the wolf team didn't know the identity of prior to the derp clear.

I don't think it really matters. I've maintained that it's NAI this whole time and this doesn't really change that but it sticks out and is worth noting.

Porscha lots of posts about hating day 1 feel townie.

Like on paper, wolves will do stuff like that instead of try to solve but it feels honest and not self aware ie town indicative.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:00 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:11 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:07 pm bruh just die
Rude.

Also, odd that you seemingly don't want me to keep engaging you...is it because you know there's no spew to be had?
show me where you've said anything to me I should have engaged with differently given I'm town?
So telling me to just die has a stifling affect on discussion...you know this
this feels performative
this genuinely happened with another interaction mac had with someone last game too. maybe falcon lol

Possibly unimportant but what exactly are you saying, here?

Fucking....I guess I'll iso Porsche just to make sure I'm not being stupid.

Ugh. I'm all fired up and nobody else is here.

I know that's like not fair to say to somebody who is physically feeling bad but part of why I'm unyeetable is that I don't let unstated reasons for townreads on my counterwagon stand. They need to be spoken so we can unravel together if they're meaningful or not.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:06 pm I have my own reasons for thinking it’s not Mizery. The only thing that stands out to me in a negative way is that in interactions fmpov, she doesn’t feel like she makes an effort to understand where I’m coming from. Like she doesn’t want to find reasons that I’m town, rather that I could be anything. There’s probably a better way to explain this. In any case, I could actually see it as some kind of stubbornness or something. It doesn’t feel like she’s spent a lot of time trying to solve me tbh. That’s how it feels to me. I think it could easily just be it resulting in something anti-town rather than intentionally scummy. There’s little things I’ve noticed that makes me feel Mizery is town, from HK and herself. I might be wrong, but I kind of have to decide on something at this point.

Remember that one time I was just certain Mist was a wolf and then Mist flipped town and I was like lost and I aaaaaaaalmost got yeeted because of it?

I'm not nearly as tired now as I was then and this game isn't nearly as long as that one was when it comes to reevaluating. Still. If you have a good reason to townread Mizery, you should like say it out loud so as to not let me get into that position again. Because I'm just as certain Miz is the wolf, here.

(I keep losing my place)

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:16 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:46 pm I think we lim exactly Mizzy, Duffy, and Jack for the win

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:38 pm Dizzy jack lag mizery

the wolf is probs in here
Borderline ready to just sheep this

Yeah.

The POE should be me vs Mizery. That's how this game is fated to end. Compare our isos. Which of us is solving?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:17 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:09 pm Great game, ya’ll.

Max mostly goat.
I’m a little bit suss that you though the game was over when Arc claimed, and others were questioning if he was trolling.

Fake claiming mafia as you go down as town is one of the oldest tricks in the book. I’m sure you’re aware of that.

The very last game I played, Alison faked mafia when she was chopped as town on D1. Hally who was mafia pretended to buy it, which I called out the next day. Cause I was watching irt as it happened, and felt it was pretty obvious that Alison had faked.

I wasn’t surprised to find that Arc did the same.

Ftr, this was partly wishful thinking but mostly Arc being like "Falcon was tagging me asking me to hammer him" felt like an honest post game reveal. It was a good troll. I don't expect you to townread me off that because it's waaaaaaay too easy for me to fake as a wolf but that's what was going through my brain at the time.

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 pm Every time you claim to be unyeetable it makes me wolf-read you a little bit more.

You've get over it.

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 pmSince if you're unyeetable as town, why do I have so many thoughts about "maybe Jack's the wolf?"

Because my personality is orange in the read lists. I am an naturally suspicious person. You can suspect me all you fucking want but I'm unyeetable because at the end of the day, when you line up my posts with Mizery's, you can plainly see that one of us has a wolf agenda and one of us is interested in finding scum.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:05 pm I don't remember what it actually is but your reads feel like they shift in unnatural directions rather than having a logical throughline.
i call it add

I have that and my reads make sense.

Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:30 pm Hey @Jackofhearts2005 did you forget about how you townread me on D2 or did you just think i was the 3p?

I always said my townread on you wasn't very strong and wasn't really based on anything, just a pure gut feel. It's not like "oh I forgot I'm supposed to be townreading Mizery" it's like "the situation has changed and my reason for lightly townreading Mizery is now gone and even if it wasn't, I now have new reasons to scumread Mizery and even if I didn't, my original reason for townreading Mizery is worse than my reasons for townreading everybody else itg."

I don't think that you think that this is a scum indicative contradiction.

I think you're a wolf latching onto anything you can think of to try to make me look bad, which is why you keep pointing out "contradictions" that aren't contradictory when you see the full context and why you engage in nonsense worldbuilding that doesn't fit what actually happened in the thread. The goal is not for you to find scum. It's to yeet a player.

Unfortunately for you, I'm unyeetable when town and I specifically specialize in finding wolves that make dishonest pushes on me.

Every player but DDL today has either voted me or stated an intention to do so. Of all of those players, only you feel dishonest.

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