The Syndicate

Lol gottem?

Cause the blocks would be claimed on townies.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 am Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo
I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.
I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help
Yes but my theory is Marmot/Falcon/TSP wolf team.

Meaning if that is the case. (I as I said before can be wrong about that hunch but still) Falcon’s protect us Fake and Sig has the real clear.
Is this not just tmi that the kill wasn't block and it hit a protect?
Mafia wouldn't know whether they hit a protect or RB would they?

I mean…if Nanook is town, they would.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:22 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:15 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:11 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 am Anyone in that tier I don't feel like I have a confident read on socially

That said given two medic claims Sig/Falcon probably aren't w/w since there's a greater than 50% chance they stopped a kill imo
I honestly just wanna know whom @sig protected.
I don't think that that is neccessary

Like, yes it's great if they got a correct protect, but if they claim, mafia knows whether or not they can target Marmot tonight. I personally think that it's just likeliest that Marmot or Mac were targetted and knowing another protection probably wouldn't help
Yes but my theory is Marmot/Falcon/TSP wolf team.

Meaning if that is the case. (I as I said before can be wrong about that hunch but still) Falcon’s protect us Fake and Sig has the real clear.
Is this not just tmi that the kill wasn't block and it hit a protect?

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LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:19 pm Really if Nanook flips Town I'm pretty sure Gav is always Mafia.
Frankly slightly tempted to lynch Gav first just because there is no pushback on Nanook's lynch.

That’s the thing that makes me thing Nanook could be town the most.

To play Devil’s advocate, Falcon has had some pushback and he’s my other wolfread anyway

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:08 am Jack what'd I miss, the wagon seems to have moved from you to someone who is actually behaving scummy.

I mean…that’s a fair summary.

Dolby wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:47 am Hi Jack

what do you think is the world if Nanook v?

If Nanook is a villager, that means that the Nanook block didn't prevent a kill, the Jack block didn't prevent a kill, the Marmot save probably didn't prevent a kill and all we know (mechanically) is that at least one of Mac and whoever Sig claims to have saved (cause we don't know Sig's alignment) is town.

Which is pretty close to meaningless since we don't know who Sig saved (if they're even town) and I already townread Mac.

Also, Nanook hasn't posted much of anything like....partner indicative or nonindicative with anyone else. The biggest shift is I think NAA probably isn't teamed with Nanook (awkward interactions and it would be weird for 2 wolves to just refuse to do anything but sheep marmot) so I guess Nanook flipping V makes NAA look worse.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:16 pm I still think it's more likely that Marmot was doc saved successfully than scum kill was roleblocked, but also, Nanook was even worse looking on the CFD than NAA imo and should probably just go

In a setup with 2 docs, I don’t think the wolves ever try a regular (non strongman) kill on a player who just red checked one of them unless both docs are wolves or otherwise marginalized.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:57 pm a reminder that there are also two doctors in the setup

No, no.

Nanook seemed to think we were into something with this line of inquiry.

Why does wolf NAA ever post that to wolf Nanook?

brainfullof.png

Really hating NAA’s play atm. As in suspecting it somewhat.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:24 pm Or Nanook is just not Mafia, and Mac is peddling whatever LHF will get him to his next win.

Why are you resistant to the idea that Nanook is mafia?

Well then. Mystery solved amiright?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:59 pm Fuck it.

@Jackofhearts2005

What the hell are your reads currently?

I'm afraid to even let you off the hook because I've done it twice and you end gamed and won. I'm not gonna let it happen again just because you post well in a spurt.
You’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.

Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby

Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav

Falcon
Nanook
Wolf
Why do you have so few Sean CFDers in a scum list, and so many in town/null lists?
Cause I haven’t paid that much attention to that
Really?

You feel a CFD onto Town at EOD w/ a confirmed Wolf CW isn't worth paying attention to?

Huh. Interesting

I’m not saying it isn’t like worth looking at. I’ve got a lot of video games on my plate okay?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm

I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.
It clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.

You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.
It doesn't even do that? Lol
Why don’t you just cc me and lock this in?
I don't understand what you're hoping to accomplish beyond flailing around aimlessly like a chicken with its head cut off
I’m not getting yeeted today.

You and Axe can hide behind Marmot all you like but it simply won’t happen.
Strong "im an attractive white woman and attractive white women don't get arrested" vibes

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:49 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 pm @DrWilgy
@MacDougall
@LinearPoint
@Lime Coke
@Dolby
@NotAnAxehole

I want you 6 to remember something very important.
TSP being Mafia Sniper confirms Falcon as Mafia.
Mphh
How is this player allowed to just post this and get by in beyond comprehension.

Tbf, it’s hard to formulate reads on gibberish.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.
Agreed. Scumread feels fake.
Okay, yeah.

Townread Guillo, scumlean Falcon.
Hmm. You agree with my statement i take it?

That’s me self isoing to figure out if I remembered my reads correctly and then like confirming yeah, I agree with my previous reasoning there.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:44 pm Also like, I think I've come to the conclusion.
Fuck meta. I think everyone is saying everyone is meta clear atm.
This is stupid. People can just manipulate their meta.

Maybe we’re all just town.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:59 pm Fuck it.

@Jackofhearts2005

What the hell are your reads currently?

I'm afraid to even let you off the hook because I've done it twice and you end gamed and won. I'm not gonna let it happen again just because you post well in a spurt.
You’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.

Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby

Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav

Falcon
Nanook
Wolf
Why do you have so few Sean CFDers in a scum list, and so many in town/null lists?

Cause I haven’t paid that much attention to that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 pm Hey, Falcon.

What’s the most compelling reason you think I’m mafia?
@falcon45ca

Like convince me your read is real.
I'm actually not convinced you're Maf.

I did tell you my vote was OMGUS

*fart noises*

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:28 pm [VOTE: Gav] aubergine

I asked you a question tho

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:15 pm “Mafia Buffs

Mercenaries who work for the mafia have more advanced equipment that grant them the following bonuses:

- Soldier: Will also learn the target’s class/color when he watches them.”

Well like….whatever. I’m still town.
Tin foil theory here, but what if jack is mafia with a mercenary and got their roles confused? Since in theory he could be submitting the roles for the entire team.

I thought the mercenaries were the mafia wowee

Sorry. Somebody’s mum.

“Mafia Buffs

Mercenaries who work for the mafia have more advanced equipment that grant them the following bonuses:

- Soldier: Will also learn the target’s class/color when he watches them.”

Well like….whatever. I’m still town.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:03 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:59 pm Fuck it.

@Jackofhearts2005

What the hell are your reads currently?

I'm afraid to even let you off the hook because I've done it twice and you end gamed and won. I'm not gonna let it happen again just because you post well in a spurt.
You’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.

Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby

Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav

Falcon
Nanook
Wolf
Wait why would you be unblockable?

Apparently, wolf soldiers are unblockable when carrying the kill. Per LP per the setup. Imma be mad if that’s not the case.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:06 pm hey all, just a reminder that game throwing is a serious accusation and against site rules. if you truly believe someone is intentionally not playing to their wincon report it to the MoDs instead of making accusations in the thread.

please do not interact with this post.

The only time I seriously thought a player was game throwing, he was a townie PR trying to dodge nks and then he turned around like “everything it was doing is fake. I’m the cop. Wolves are X and Y.”

Plus like what if the player you think is gamethrowing is like a wolf after all?

So like I’m never ever gonna seriously accuse anyone of throwing during a game. Feels like this era’s version of saying you’re boning somebody’s mom on XBL.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:53 am @MacDougall let's say I believe you for a second, what do you think about Lime Coke. Did not vote Sabie D1, D3 he claims a role block on Jack as being mechanically definitive when it's obviously not - even with no knowledge of the set up, you know that there are 2 of each role. Therefore any one action OBVIOUSLY can't be viewed this way.

This is like technically completely accurate.

But Lime is still obviously town and NAA is still voting for me.

Like…wtf am I supposed to do with that? I’m putting NAA at the high end of my nullish player list but idk if that’s the correct evaluation.

NAA can go above Tony.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:59 pm Fuck it.

@Jackofhearts2005

What the hell are your reads currently?

I'm afraid to even let you off the hook because I've done it twice and you end gamed and won. I'm not gonna let it happen again just because you post well in a spurt.

You’re not letting me off the hook because I post well in a spurt. You’re letting me off the hook because the only reason to suspect me is because you blocked me but if I was a wolf, I’d be unblockable anyway so there’s no reason to suspect me in the first place.

Town
Marmot
Lime
Mac
LP
Guillo
Dolby

Tony
Martin
Wilgy
Sig
Gav

Falcon
Nanook
Wolf

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.
It clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.

You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.
It doesn't even do that? Lol
Why don’t you just cc me and lock this in?
I don't understand what you're hoping to accomplish beyond flailing around aimlessly like a chicken with its head cut off

I’m not getting yeeted today.

You and Axe can hide behind Marmot all you like but it simply won’t happen.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 pm Hey, Falcon.

What’s the most compelling reason you think I’m mafia?

@falcon45ca

Like convince me your read is real.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.
It clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.

You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.
It doesn't even do that? Lol

Why don’t you just cc me and lock this in?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:49 pm Oh wait. You don’t.
Marmot is a triple voter, you know who to appeal to.

Pretending you don’t have responsibility for your own vote is antitown and I don’t understand the mindset.

How are we supposed to read you if you refuse to think for yourself?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 am Anyways I should be hard cleared from being a sabie teammate tbh, I dont think I'd ever save a teammate then immediately turn around and have them do the n1 kill, especially in a game with so many potential blocks

Mmm, yes. Only stupid players do that.

Who itg is stupid?

/s

Hey, Falcon.

What’s the most compelling reason you think I’m mafia?

Oh wait. You don’t.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.
It clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.

You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.
I'm aware, and I think it's stupid, but it doesn't clear you of being mafia.

Great. Why do you think I’m mafia?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.
I don't see how that claim clears you - it seems to target another player. If you're the soldier, you likely didn't carry KP, but that's kind of irrelevant to my vote.

It clears me of what I’m being accused of, carrying the mafia kill and then getting roleblocked and that’s why nobody died last night.

You are aware that’s the case on me, right? The entire case.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:44 am I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

The string of posts leading up to this one point to right town Mac.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:25 am Also does anyone here know who Sabie let into their base?

Cowboyblushemoji

Nobody targeted LP night 1 but me.

I hadn’t caught up and it was like a reverse fear watch.

Nanook bad. Dolby, LP good.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:22 am Nanook defended Sabie day 1 and hasn't done much else.

Mmm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:20 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 am Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.
You cannot make this read on Gavial... he just got to f3 as mafia doing this exact same shit and only lost because of how much he pissed falcon off Falcon voted him cuz he didn't want to lose to him. He coasted an entire game just openly doing pro wolf chaotic silly shit and bussed his lone teammate.

This game ended literally last week it'd fresh meta.

Fyi, I’m like listening to this read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:26 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.
Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.

@Marmot @Lime Coke

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:23 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.
Agreed. Scumread feels fake.
Yeah, you kinda did say it before

So stop being fake, furball.

Unyeetable.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.

Lololololololol

My claim does confirm me.

I’m the other soldier. If I was a wolf carrying the kill, I couldn’t be blocked.

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